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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Roman Topics
From:	Michael Loughlin <quintusmeridius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:24:58 -0800 (PST)

Salvete,
Perhaps others joined for this reason as well, but I am a part of this list
in the interest of a living Rome. While history is interesting and relevant,
its not the only thing I ever want to discuss. I like this list just the way
it is.

Valete,
I.A.A.Musa

WELL SAID!

Quintus Meridius Brutus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Roman Days
From:	"AussieGent <aussiegent@yahoo.com>" <aussiegent@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 04:58:13 -0000

Are there any events of that description in Australia? Excuse my not
using a Latin greeting, what does Salvete mean?

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Roman Days
From:	"civvsromanvs <ben.fuertsch@vminternational.com>" <ben.fuertsch@vminternational.com>
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 06:01:37 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "AussieGent <aussiegent@y...>"
<aussiegent@y...> wrote:
> Are there any events of that description in Australia? Excuse my
not
> using a Latin greeting, what does Salvete mean?

"Salve" means "greetings" or "hello" and "salvete" is the plural
form,
equally,
"vale" means "goodbye" and "valete" is used when adressing more than
one person.

Laecus Galerius Felix

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] AMS Yahoogroup Re-established
From:	Charlie Collins <cotta@spamcop.net>
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 05:03:18 -0600

Salvete Omnes,

I have re-established the Provincial mail list
for America Medioccidentalis Superior. If you are
a citizen living in AMS I urge you to join. Please
make your first post a introduction of yourself.

Sextus Cornelius Cotta

--
Propraetor--America Medioccidentalis Superior Province
Factio Praesina

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] AMS Yahoogroup Re-established
From:	Charlie Collins <cotta@spamcop.net>
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 05:08:28 -0600

Salvete Omnes,

I forgot to put the URL it's http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AMS_NR.

Sextus Cornelius Cotta

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Spanish list
From:	URCITANUS <urcitanus@terra.es>
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:59:06 +0100

Salve, carus Gaius Marus Verus

Well, the language thet more than 300 million people share is Spanish,
translated as ESPAÑOL. The other exotic ways to call it belong to
differents political views. The truth is that in some places, some
people do not feel comfortable with the word "Español". Any other
consideration is absolutely ludicrous.
Personally, I was born and raised in Spain and admit I was never able
to speak "Castellano".Since I don´t live in that particular area in
Spain called "Castilla", I only speak Spanish as my mother language.
If you want to know more, a bigger infrom which explain the origin of
both terminologies was sent to Serranus.

antonius adrianus urcitanus
Bachelor of Arts and Professor of Lunguistics in R.F (Real Life)

----- Mensaje Original -----
De: "Gaius Marius Verus" <cristian_isj@hotmail.com>
Fecha: Viernes, Febrero 7, 2003 11:08 pm
Asunto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Spanish list

> <html><body>
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> <tt>
> Salve Urcitane!
>
> Salve Sexte Iuli Serrane!
>
> Here, in Argentina, we call our language as "castellano"
> and not as "español" or Spanish, who knows why,
>
> but I imagine that it's because the language come from Castilla,
> in Spain. Sextus Iulius Serranus, maybe
>
> you've learned calling it this way from some Argentine.
>
>
>
> Como comentario: en Argentina llamamos a nuestro idioma castellano
> y no español, vaya a saber uno
>
> por qué, será porque es el idioma originario de Castilla. Sextus
> Iulius Serranus, tal vez hayas aprendido a
>
> llamarlo así de algún argentino.
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> Vale bene
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> Gaius Marius Verus
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: William Cornett Polanco
>
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:34 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Spanish list
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> Antonius Adrianus Urcitanus,
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> Thank you so much for giving me the NRHispania list. I
> appreciate it very much. I wouldn't like to limit myself to just
> English here considering this is a forum open to all of us. Si
> vosotros no hablais castellano, pues que hablais???? Me parece un
> poco raro lo que has dicho. Bueno ya ves! Para mi es igual el
> Español o el Castellano. Suelo usar la palabra Castellano cuando
> refiero a este idioma. Well, look forward to speaking to you soon.
>
> Sextus Iulius Serranus
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> URCITANUS <urcitanus@terra.es> wrote:
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> Dear Sextus Iulius Serranus,
>
> If you want to argue in Spanish, you can enter NRHispania list.
> Althogh
>
> we do not speak Castillian anymore, but Spanish, I am pretty
> sure you
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> probably be
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> some Catalonian speaking citizen there)
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> antonius adrianus urcitanus
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> ----- Mensaje Original -----
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> De: William Cornett Polanco <sxtus_iulius_serranus@yahoo.es>
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> Fecha: Jueves, Febrero 6, 2003 6:17 am
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> Asunto: Re: [Nova-Roma] Columbia- (offtopic)
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> >
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> > Ave Aurelius!
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> >
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> > I completely agree with you. Can we not all simply be
> Romans? I
>
> > for one would prefer to immerse myself in Roman culture
> than argue
>
> > about about inter-continental opinions! I thought we were
> one and
>
> > the same?? I reside in America Austroccidentalis but am
> tired of
>
> > the sensationalism of the media here. I wholeheartedly
> agree with
>
> > Diana Moravia Aventina! I would like to meet other Romans
> who are
>
> > interested in the promotion of the Latin language and Roman
>
> > culture! Is that not why we are here?? My Materfamilias
> Iulia
>
> > Vopisca whom I admire, is an active part of Roman religion!
> I know
>
> > this is not everone's forté, but it is another aspect of
> the
>
> > richness of Roman culture! Why not spend time discussing
> all
>
> > realms of Roman life? I realize we are part of a modern
> world and
>
> > must accept and dictate our fate within it, but what about
> the
>
> > essential values of being Roman? I want to learn as much as
> I can.
>
> > All of you have something spectacular to contribute! Of
> this I am
>
> > quite certain!
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> >
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> > Pues, para todos que hablan castellano o catalan, os deseo
> buena
>
> > suerte y espero leer alguna cosa de vosotros! QUE VIVA ROMA
> ETERNA!
> >
>
> > Doncs, per a tots que parlen castellà o català, us desitjo
> bona
>
> > sort i espero llegir alguna cosa de vosaltres! QUE VISCA
> ROMA ETERNA!
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> >
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> > Sextus Iulius Serranus
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> >
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> > "M. Flavius Aurelius"
> <marcus.flavius@bigpond.com>
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> > wrote:This obsession that some New Romans have with turning
> the
>
> > major forum into a
>
> >
>
> > US-European slagging fest bores those of us in the other
> regions......
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> > M. Flavius Aurelius
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> > Australia
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> > > "Show me a nation whose history doesn't
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> > Compared to a vast majority of European nations, I think
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> > > Well said
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Roman Days
From:	labienus@novaroma.org
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:14:39 US/Central

Salvete

> Excuse my not using a Latin greeting, what does Salvete mean?

Salvete means "be healthy", and it can be used as either a greeting or a
goodbye. Nowadays, its English derivative, salutations, is used entirely as a
greeting. When talking to one person, you'd say "salve".

Valete (or the singular vale), is often used in place of "goodbye" in Nova
Roma. Like salvete, it can be either a greeting or a parting phrase. It
means "be strong".

Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Cassii going to Rome!
From:	"James LaSalle" <jlasalle@sbcglobal.net>
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:04:26 -0600

I spent three months in Roma during law school. Perhaps the most
entertaining event I saw in Rome was a group of japanese tourists
pimp-slapping and spitting on a bunch of gypsy kids who were trying to steal
their wallets.

Look out for the gypsy kids.

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola

-----Original Message-----
From: quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com> [mailto:richmal@attbi.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:26 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Cassii going to Rome!

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Franciscus Apulus Caesar"
<sacro_barese_impero@l...> wrote:
> Fr. Apulus Caesar Q. Cassio Calvo et Guests in Italy S.P.D.
>
> What a tragical suggestions!
> How many far you're went in Italy? Several things are changed and
you
> describe Rome like a "impossible" city. Maybe youy have to see
cities like
> Athen or the spanish. :-)
> Of course we live in a different way from the american or the north-
european
> style. We're more chaotic and we have personal easy and
wonderfulidea of the
> daily life ;-)
> Please, take my little corrections.

Salve,

I apologize if it seems if I was given your wonderful city a bad
reputation. Those "rules" tend to be common sense in any urban
setting be it Rome, Tokyo, or New York. I've never had the
opportunity to go to Athens. Besides Rome and Naples, I've been to
Barcelona, Marsailles, Venice, Trieste, Algers, Tunis, Haifi,
Jerusalem, Lisbon, Cannes, London, Amsterdam, Den Helder, Izmir, and
a few other places. Someday I hope to be able to make it to Germany,
Ireland, and Iceland. However global travels aren't in my budget for
the forseeable future.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Roman Topics
From:	jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:52:06 -0500 (EST)

The Praetors have issued thier List Standards and as I have indicated
previously, I will be quite happy to acknowledge their determinations.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucus Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Roman Topics
From:	"James LaSalle" <jlasalle@sbcglobal.net>
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:36:22 -0600

I don't understand your website
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:52 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Roman Topics

The Praetors have issued thier List Standards and as I have indicated
previously, I will be quite happy to acknowledge their determinations.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucus Audens

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Cassii going to Rome!
From:	MarcusAudens@webtv.net
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:37:35 -0500 (EST)

Cassius and Cassia:

My adventures in Rome were of very short duration (3 days) being on tour
there from the port of Naples, some distance to the South.

I was not treated to the inspiring activity of Japanese Tourists
spitting on Gypsies, so my visit narrative is right away blighted to
some degree, to be determined by your expectations.

I did however, have the opportunity of visit St. Peters, which
architecturally is a marvel in and of itself. When I was there, the
Pieta was not screened away from the onlookers, and I got a close look
at the marvelous work of the sculpture. The whole aspect of St. Peter's
was simply overwhelming, and I found myself most impressed by my visit.
The tour was an American Express Tour tailored for U.S. Navy men who
wished to visit Rome, and was well conducted and the wonders of the city
(which are many) were a memory that I shall not forget.

There is a German Restaurant not far from the Spanish Steps then was a
real blast. An American Catholic Priest that we met on the bus

(he was perfecting his Italian language skills by arguing politics with
the bus driver),

took us there as it was a favorite place of his, and we offered to treat
him to the beer!!!!! We had a marvelous dinner, with good German dark
beer, soft German cheese. and other german deliacies.

The hotel in which we stayed provided breakfast and supper in the family
style, and the people who owned the hotel were very friendly and
answered our many many questions quite cheerfully. We ate chocolates at
the Tivoli Fountain, and I made a traditional wish which came true,
throwing the coins in the fountain. We attended a special presentation
of the Pope, and were amazed by the Sistine Chapel, not so much y the
theme, but rather by the beauty and the amazing detail of the paintings.

As I related once before, I had a personal "unescorted" tour of the
Vatican Library before they found me and immediately evacuated me, but
it it were possible to arrange such a tour, I guarantee, your deepest
appreciation of the opportunity. It was the most rewarding wrong turn
of my life!!!!!!!!

My roommate for the weekend was a Junior Officer, who was a
disappointment

(as most such were -- The Captain had sent him on the tour to "try" and
absorb "a little culture!!!"),

but since our interests differed greatly, I was not required to put up
with him to any degree. We senior ratings bought bottles of champagne
for a before bed cocktail and put them out on the window sill
overlooking the inner courtyard of the hotel (lovely garden).

We visited most of the major attractions and buildings during the day,
and some bars, restaurants and clubs in the evening. It was cold in
Rome during our stay, and we forified ourselves with cognac and expresso
coffe as we made our way back to the hotel from the delights of the
evening.

There are many things in Rome to see and appreciate, so I would
recommend that you talk to a tour company and get an idea of what you
want to see, what they offer, and the range of sights and experiences
that they can provide.

I am not a advocate of large cities, being basically a country boy at
heart, but I must say that I did enjoy my stay in Rome. I felt much
more welcome and comfortable there then I ever have in New York or Las
Angles, boh of which I know fairly well. I suppose that every large
city has some undesirable elemnts, but with a modicum of care, one can
avoid the unpleasant aspects , and go on to build some very nice
memories. The overwhelming good will of most of the people that we met
and dealt with was one of the most pleasant of the many cities that I
have visited. I will not go to New York even just to pass through it,
but rather go around. Las Angles has a nice express way system through
it, so the time spent there is minimal.

Below is a brief list of some things that I would like to visit if my
wife and I get back there. Rome is a city in which I enjoyed myself
hugely, learned a good deal about the Italian people, have great
memories of, and would not hesitate at all to visit again:

--The Museum of Roman Civilization (reconstruction model of the city of
Rome by I. Gismondi);

--The Palatine;

--The Roman Forum;

--Campidoglio;

--Religion and Temples;

--The Pantheon;

--Obelisks and Arches;

--City Walls and Gates;

--Columns and Forums;

--The Colliseum and Circuses;

--The tiber, It's Island and Bridges;

--The Baths;

--Imperial Mausoleums;

--Hadrian's Villa

--I was particularly intereted in the:

==Roads, Bridges, Aqueducts, the port of Ostia, and the Catacombs.

There are some recent Archaelogical findings along the Tiber that may be
opening soon as well.

You may find it convienient to purchase one of the many very nice
colored books about Rome, which explain much of what you will see, are
seeing, and what you have seen. My stay there was fairly short, so I
needed something to give me the details in English that I could review
at my liesure. My Italian is non-existant, and the guides English was
good, but a few words and expessions from his native language crept in
from time to time.

I hope that you will enjoy your stay in Rome, and my best wishes attend
you in your trip.

Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens

A wet sheet and a flowing sea, and a wind follows fast, and fills the
white and rustling sail, and bends the gallant mast; and bends the
gallant mast my boys while like the eagle free, our good ship starts and
flies and leaves old England on our lee------Fair Winds and following
Seas!!!

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] My website
From:	MarcusAudens@webtv.net
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:42:14 -0500 (EST)

It was an attempt to use the facilities of WebTv, to set up my own
website. Either I am too dumb to use the facilities properly or they
don;'t work. Anyway, I have not yet gotten rid of it, but intend to
when I get a moment free.

Respectfully;
M. M. Audens

A wet sheet and a flowing sea, and a wind follows fast, and fills the
white and rustling sail, and bends the gallant mast; and bends the
gallant mast my boys while like the eagle free, our good ship starts and
flies and leaves old England on our lee------Fair Winds and following
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Roman Days
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:03:09 EST

In a message dated 2/10/03 6:15:13 AM Pacific Standard Time,
labienus@novaroma.org writes:

> Like salvete, it can be either a greeting or a parting phrase. It
> means "be strong

My classic Latin professor said "be hearty." Gotta go with my Latin
professor.

Fabius Maximus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Citizens in Britain...
From:	"Gaia Fabia Livia <livia@strategikon.org>" <livia@strategikon.org>
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:09:27 -0000

Hi everyone,

It's been brought to my attention that NR is about to have a birthday.
In celebration of this fact, I'd like to have some kind of get-
together within the province of Britannia.

What I'd first like to know, before I start arranging things, is
whether it would be easier for citizens on the whole to get to London,
this being the capital, or somewhere nearer the Midlands, which could
perhaps be cheaper & easier for larger numbers of people to get to,
and therefore a more useful location. It would probably also be
cheaper for accomodation, for anyone who didn't fancy a day-trip.
However I'm sure you all understand it would be quite silly if we held
the event in the midlands, and everyone who bothered to attend was
from London (or, on the other hand, from Cumbria!) so I'd really like
to get an impression of who would be interested in attending, so I can
work out the geographical distributions. Please email me *offlist* at
livia @ strategikon.org, and let me know, if you'd like to come, where
you'd be coming from.

Looking forwards to a large response,

Gaia Fabia Livia

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Roman Days
From:	labienus@novaroma.org
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:12:20 US/Central

Salvete

> My classic Latin professor said "be hearty." Gotta go with my Latin
> professor.

Actually, I got "be strong" from a Classical Latin professor.

Hearty: Exhibiting strength; sound; healthy; firm; not weak; as, a hearty
timber.

Strong: Having passive physical power; having ability to bear or endure; firm;
hale; sound; robust; as, a strong constitution; strong health.

It is true, though, that "strong" has many connotations that "hearty" does not,
and that "hearty" is a better translation in that respect.

Valete
T Labienus Fortunatus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] attn. argentinos
From:	"Lucius Pompeius Octavianus" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar>
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:57:00 -0300

Salvete cives argentini

En los kioskos de Buenos Aires pueden encontrar el número 24 Octubre 2000 de la revista española "La Aventura de la historia". En él encontrarán un articulo sobre el gladius hispaniensis y otro sobre un bronce de época augústea hallado en Hisapnia

At the newstands in Buenos Aires you'll find the issue number 24 October 2000 of the spanish magazine " the Aventure of the History" where you'll find an article about the gladius hispaniensis and another one about a bronze dating from Augustan times found in Hispania.

Bene Valete

Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Senator
Tribunus Plebis
Dominus Factionis Veneta
Propraetor provincialis Argentinae
http://argentina.novaroma.org
http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/NR_Argentina
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/factioveneta

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] recruitment for Factio Veneta Blue Bleu Azul Azzurro already open
From:	"Lucius Pompeius Octavianus" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar>
Date:	Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:59:47 -0300

Salvete omnes.

The recruitment for factio Veneta is already open!!. Just go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/factioveneta and subscribe. Then I'll approve you. Once you are approved you'll need to state the following: 1) your roman name, 2) the name of your chariot, 3) the name of your driver. Whenever a Ludi approaches you'll also need to state your tactics for the race.
Note for the old members of the factio veneta : you must also subscribe to this list, otherwise you'll be considered not to have any interest to participate in the factio

Valete bene

Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Senator
Tribunus Plebis
Dominus Factionis Veneta
Propraetor provincialis Argentinae
http://argentina.novaroma.org
http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/NR_Argentina
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/factioveneta

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