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[Nova-Roma] What Latin word can I use for pound that was used in ancient Rome? |
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"biojournalism <biojournalism@hotmail.com>" <biojournalism@hotmail.com> |
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Sat, 22 Feb 2003 04:43:44 -0000 |
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Salvete Omnes:
Can someone tell me the Roman (Latin) word for measuring by the
pound? Sample sentence, "Masinissa wants 5,000 pounds of gold, 3,000
pounds of pepper, 30,000 pounds of silver and 4,000 tunics of silk."
What word can I substitute for pound to mean a similar unit of
measurement such as a pound of silver or a pound of beans? My novel
takes place 150 BCE in Rome and with Cato and Scipio in Numidia.
Octavia
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[Nova-Roma] Apollonia Acta -- Weekly Roman News and Archeology |
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Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com> |
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Sat, 22 Feb 2003 02:15:02 -0800 (PST) |
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Salvete Omnes,
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Valete,
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Re: [Nova-Roma] What Latin word can I use for pound that was used |
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John Walzer <jwalzer5@comcast.net> |
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Sat, 22 Feb 2003 05:45:12 -0500 |
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According to the Latin Oxford Dictionary, the word "libra/librae" is "a measure of weight containing twelve Roman ounces ('unciae'), equal to about 2/3 of a pound avoirdupois." Cassell's Dictionary gives the example, auri qunque pondo for "five pounds of gold." The word is used by both Juvenal and Livy to specify a Roman pound = 12 ounces.
Vale. Lucius.
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Subject: [Nova-Roma] What Latin word can I use for pound that was used inancient Rome?
Salvete Omnes:
Can someone tell me the Roman (Latin) word for measuring by the
pound? Sample sentence, "Masinissa wants 5,000 pounds of gold, 3,000
pounds of pepper, 30,000 pounds of silver and 4,000 tunics of silk."
What word can I substitute for pound to mean a similar unit of
measurement such as a pound of silver or a pound of beans? My novel
takes place 150 BCE in Rome and with Cato and Scipio in Numidia.
Octavia
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Upcoming Elections |
| From: |
John Walzer <jwalzer5@comcast.net> |
| Date: |
Sat, 22 Feb 2003 08:17:25 -0500 |
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Salvete:
Re: The upcoming elections for the Comitia Plebis Tributa.
Am I right in understanding that a plurality vote is sufficient to win a tribe's assent, but that a majority vote (18 of 35) of the Tribes is necessary to election? As a new citizen, I would appreciate any input from my fellow citizens.
Valete.
L. Suetonius Nerva
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[Nova-Roma] Re: Upcoming Elections |
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"quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>" <richmal@attbi.com> |
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Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:13:22 -0000 |
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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, John Walzer <jwalzer5@c...> wrote:
> Salvete:
>
> Re: The upcoming elections for the Comitia Plebis Tributa.
>
> Am I right in understanding that a plurality vote is sufficient to
win a tribe's assent, but that a majority vote (18 of 35) of the
Tribes is necessary to election? As a new citizen, I would
appreciate any input from my fellow citizens.
>
> Valete.
>
> L. Suetonius Nerva
Salve,
You are correct. In this case there being two open positions two
candidates may take a tribe. For example in Tribe X, 5 votes are
cast 2 for candidate A, 2 for candidate B, and one for Candidate C.
Candidates A and B are awarded the tribe. However it takes 18 tribes
for any candidate to win the elected position as Tribune. Ties are
resolved (using above example with 6 votes equal split three ways but
only two candidates can be awarded the tribe) according to the LEX
SALICIA DE SVFFRAGIIS IN COMITIA PLEBIS TRIBVTA, paragraph 2. which
can be found at http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/2002-11-26-
i.html
Vale,
Q. Cassius Calvus
Rogator
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Upcoming Elections (addendum) |
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"quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>" <richmal@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:15:32 -0000 |
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--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "quintuscassiuscalvus
Salve,
The link I gave was trunceated and wont work:
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/2002-11-26-i.html
That should work if Yahoo doesn't trunceate it again.
Vale,
Q. Cassius Calvus
Rogator
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RE: [Nova-Roma] What Latin word can I use for pound that was used in ancient Rome? |
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"jlasalle" <jlasalle@sbcglobal.net> |
| Date: |
Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:40:58 -0600 |
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isn't it libre, or something like that?
And how about donating 10% of the profits from your book to Nova Roma?
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ancient Rome?
Salvete Omnes:
Can someone tell me the Roman (Latin) word for measuring by the
pound? Sample sentence, "Masinissa wants 5,000 pounds of gold, 3,000
pounds of pepper, 30,000 pounds of silver and 4,000 tunics of silk."
What word can I substitute for pound to mean a similar unit of
measurement such as a pound of silver or a pound of beans? My novel
takes place 150 BCE in Rome and with Cato and Scipio in Numidia.
Octavia
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Re: [Nova-Roma] What Latin word can I use for pound that was used inancient Rome? |
| From: |
"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 22 Feb 2003 07:59:24 -0800 (PST) |
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The Latin "libra" is still reflected in the English
abrevation for the word pound. It's lb. rather than
pn. or pd. The same holds for the UK's montary unit.
It was originally a pound of silver and it's symbol is
a stylized "L" rather than a "P".
--- John Walzer <jwalzer5@comcast.net> wrote:
> According to the Latin Oxford Dictionary, the
> word "libra/librae" is "a measure of weight
> containing twelve Roman ounces ('unciae'), equal to
> about 2/3 of a pound avoirdupois." Cassell's
> Dictionary gives the example, auri qunque pondo for
> "five pounds of gold." The word is used by both
> Juvenal and Livy to specify a Roman pound = 12
> ounces.
>
> Vale. Lucius.
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> Salvete Omnes:
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> Can someone tell me the Roman (Latin) word for
> measuring by the
> pound? Sample sentence, "Masinissa wants 5,000
> pounds of gold, 3,000
> pounds of pepper, 30,000 pounds of silver and
> 4,000 tunics of silk."
> What word can I substitute for pound to mean a
> similar unit of
> measurement such as a pound of silver or a pound
> of beans? My novel
> takes place 150 BCE in Rome and with Cato and
> Scipio in Numidia.
>
>
> Octavia
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[Nova-Roma] Libra librae = Pound and Pounds |
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Legion XXIV <legionxxiv@comcast.net> |
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Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:10:27 -0500 |
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Libra = a pound
Librae = many pounds
Gallio Marsallas
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Re: [Nova-Roma] What Latin word can I use for pound that was used in ancient Rome? |
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Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:46:47 +0000 (GMT) |
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-----Original Message-----
>From : “biojournalism <biojournalism@hotmail.com>“ <biojournalism@hotmail.com>
>
>Can someone tell me the Roman (Latin) word for measuring by the
>pound? Sample sentence, “Masinissa wants 5,000 pounds of gold, 3,000
>
Libra divided into duodecim unciae, as it still is for precious metals but slightly heavier than a normal 12 ounces.
Caesariensis.
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Re: [Nova-Roma] What Latin word can I use for pound that was used inancient Rome? |
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-----Original Message-----
>From : “L. Sicinius Drusus“ <lsicinius@yahoo.com>
>pn. or pd. The same holds for the UK's montary unit.
>It was originally a pound of silver and it's symbol is
>a stylized “L“ rather than a “P“.
>
I think I've seen the same symbol except for a different number of cross-strokes for the old Italian Lira as well. Markets still sell by the half-kilo Pfund and Livre, a reasonable approximation but interestingly, to the 16-ounce pound, not to the Roman one. It hasn't caught on here yet, but market traders mostly use the pound still. There's some evidence (mainly in a drinking song called Here's to the Grog) of an Anglo-Saxon binary measure of capacity (useful since you can halve liquids by sight) so maybe there was one of weight as well. The same would apply that halves would balance without the need for extra scaled weights
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RE: [Nova-Roma] What Latin word can I use for pound that was used inancient Rome? |
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"jlasalle" <jlasalle@sbcglobal.net> |
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Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:05:19 -0600 |
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How many "pounds" do you think Bio should contribute from the profits from
her book?
Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Scriba Curatoris Differum Lex Iuridicalis
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America Medioccidentalis Superior Province
"It is indeed a desirable thing to be well-descended, but the glory belongs
to our ancestors."
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From : “L. Sicinius Drusus“ <lsicinius@yahoo.com>
>pn. or pd. The same holds for the UK's montary unit.
>It was originally a pound of silver and it's symbol is
>a stylized “L“ rather than a “P“.
>
I think I've seen the same symbol except for a different number of
cross-strokes for the old Italian Lira as well. Markets still sell by the
half-kilo Pfund and Livre, a reasonable approximation but interestingly, to
the 16-ounce pound, not to the Roman one. It hasn't caught on here yet, but
market traders mostly use the pound still. There's some evidence (mainly in
a drinking song called Here's to the Grog) of an Anglo-Saxon binary measure
of capacity (useful since you can halve liquids by sight) so maybe there was
one of weight as well. The same would apply that halves would balance
without the need for extra scaled weights
Caesariensis.
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