Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: On loss: Testament of Malkhos
From:	"malkhos <malkhos@yahoo.com>" <malkhos@yahoo.com>
Date:	Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:56:29 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
<diana@p...> wrote:
> Salve Malkhos,
>
> My deepest sympathy to you on the loss of your daughter. But don't
look
> back, and don't let the grief overtake you. Look forward to the
future and
> to having a little boy named Julian!! We can't keep focusing on who
is gone
> but have to remember all of the wonderful people who still bring the
> sunshine into our lives. This is really the only thing we can do.
> Unfortunately, I know this from recent experience. We all have to
just hang
> on to eachother and ride the storms.
>
> And to Anthony, the same goes for you too. Your little girl is
lucky to have
> found you as a father. I will hope for a miracle, but if none
happens, try
> to remember that your daughter could have ended up alone in some
orphanage
> with no one to love her or care. You've done well, no matter what
her future
> brings.
>
> Vale,
> Diana Moravia
>
>
>
> Thanks to you and the others who expressed their condolences over
Sophia's death.

Malkhos

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: On loss: Testament of Malkhos
From:	Richard Winter <rwinter@nwlink.com>
Date:	Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:27:03 -0800

there is no way around grief...only thru it to the other side..

be well..

Marcus Ritulius Hiberus
"Seminate aurum in Terram albam Foliatam..."



At 10:56 PM 3/2/03 +0000, you wrote:

>--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
><diana@p...> wrote:
> > Salve Malkhos,
> >
> > My deepest sympathy to you on the loss of your daughter. But don't
>look
> > back, and don't let the grief overtake you. Look forward to the
>future and
> > to having a little boy named Julian!! We can't keep focusing on who
>is gone
> > but have to remember all of the wonderful people who still bring the
> > sunshine into our lives. This is really the only thing we can do.
> > Unfortunately, I know this from recent experience. We all have to
>just hang
> > on to eachother and ride the storms.
> >
> > And to Anthony, the same goes for you too. Your little girl is
>lucky to have
> > found you as a father. I will hope for a miracle, but if none
>happens, try
> > to remember that your daughter could have ended up alone in some
>orphanage
> > with no one to love her or care. You've done well, no matter what
>her future
> > brings.
> >
> > Vale,
> > Diana Moravia
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks to you and the others who expressed their condolences over
>Sophia's death.
>
>Malkhos
>
>
>
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Edictum Curatoris Differum
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:28:11 -0500

EDICTVM CVRATORIS DIFFERUM
The Appointment of Scriba Curatoris Differum
E Domo Curatoris Differum
Quintus Sertorius

is hereby appointed Scriba Curatoris Differum effective today the
2nd of Martius MMDCCLVI auc 2 March 2003.
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Curator

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] My veto - a comment
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:06:55 +0100

Salvete Quirites!

I am sorry that because of private commitments I have been absent
since last Sunday.

It is my strong conviction that my veto against the "Eagle Patronage
message" was needed. The problem was that I was in a very troubled
professional situation and I had to stop the unconstitutional
development of the "Patronage" issue. Though I strongly feel that it
was very unfortunate that I had to "disappear" right after my issuing
of the veto. Because of this "disappearance" I ask all concerned,
especially Illustrus Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, to excuse me as my
veto against the issue of the "Patronage of the Eagle" posted without
any deeper explanation caused him and others great anxiety.

I must assure all who believe otherwise that there are no personal or
political disagreements between me and Illustrus Tiberius Galerius
Paulinus that I know of and no such feelings were in any way behind
my veto. My only concern was the power of the Senate and the
Constitution.

I think that my colleague and others have sufficiently shown that my
veto was correct and in reality needed. I understand that a
magistrate that is "hit" by a veto may feel very uncomfortable. I
recognize this feeling especially as I have myself suffered such an
intervention with one of my favorite ideas.

But in the case of the Eagle I am sure that the Curator Differum will
find it possible to work with me to find a very satisfactory solution
to this problem for Nova Roma as a whole.
--

Valete

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Results of the last Senate Vote
From:	"rexmarciusnr <RexMarcius@aol.com>" <RexMarcius@aol.com>
Date:	Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:00:20 -0000

Tribunus Plebis Marcus Marcius Rex Quiritibus SPD

Senate Voting Results published on 3 March 2756.

The Senate has finished its latest session and the votes have been
tallied as below.

Formal debate ended at 09.00 Roman time, Sunday February 23 (diem
quintum Kalendas Martias MMDCCLVI) and voting began immediately
after. Voting ended at 19.00 Roman time Wednesday February 26 (ante
diem secundum Kalendas Martias MMDCCLVI). Results were officially
published by the presiding magistrate on the Senate list 28 February
2756.

I may quote Senator Lucius Sergius Australicus here: "It seems
strange that there has been essentially no discussion of these
matters until votes are cast."

The following 19 Senators cast votes in time. They are referred to
below by their initials, and are listed in alphabetical order by
nomen:

Marcus Arminius Maior (MAM)
Marcus Cassius Julianus (MCJ)
Patricia Cassia (PC)
Lucius Cornelius Sulla (LCS)
Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus (LEC)
Caius Flavius Diocletianus (CFD)
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (CFQ)
Quintus Fabius Maximus (QFM)
Antonius Gryllus Graecus (AGG)
Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus Macedonicus (AICPM)
Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (DIPI)
Titus Labienus Fortunatus (TLF)
Marcus Minucius Audens (MMA)
Marcus Octavius Germanicus (MOG)
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus (LPO)
Gnaeus Salix Astur (GSA)
Lucius Sergius Australicus Obstinatus (LSAO)
Lucius Sicinius Drusus (LSD)
Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato (ATMC)


The following Senator did not cast a vote [and his absence was not
announced or justified in line with the Senatus Consultum defining a
quorum (http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-
vii.html) and the LEX OCTAVIA DE SENATORIBUS
(http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/2002-02-27-iv.html) which
this Tribune reads in conjunction]:
Gaius Marius Merullus (CMM)

The necessary majority for a Senatus consultum therefore was 11 votes
in favor.

"UTI ROGAS" indicates a vote in favor of an item, "ANTIQUO"
or "NEGAT" is a vote against, and "ABSTINEO" is an open abstention.
Square Brackets [ ] indicate explanations by the reporting Tribune.

The items for consideration were as follows

Agenda

Item I: [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]

Fl Vedius' now-defunct edictum allowing cives to use the Nova Roman
flag on Nova Roman related material, including Web sites, shall be
enacted as a Senatus Consultum.

[Introductory comments by TLF:] "The full text of agenda item I
follows. I believe that it is necessary to enact this as a permanent
policy, as there are now quite a few Web sites that are technically
violating our copyright. As has been pointed out, we can lose our
ownership of Nova Roma's intellectual property if we don't protect
it. Therefore, it seems best to unequivocally establish the policy,
rather than simply fail to enforce our right to the Nova Roman flag
in order to allow our cives to advertise us on the Web and elsewhere."

_____________

I. Fl Vedius' now-defunct edictum allowing cives to use the Nova
Roman flag on
Nova Roman related material, including Web sites, shall be enacted as
a Senatus
Consultum. The text of the edictum is as follows:

"Permission is hereby granted for all Citizens, magistrates,
provincia,
sodalitates, and other organizations of Nova Roma to use the image of
our flag
on websites related to Nova Roma. The image may, at the time of the
propagation
of this edict, be found at
http://www.novaroma.org/cursus_honorum/spqr.jpg on the main web site.
When
used, the image may not be altered in any way except to scale it up
or down in
size, and must be accompanied by the following HTML code (unaltered)
somewhere
on the same page as the flag image:

"The Nova Roman 'Gold SPQR in a gold wreath on a crimson field' flag
is a use-
protected trademark of Nova Roma and is used with permission.

"Permission to use the image of the Nova Roman flag in other
contexts, in
altered form, or without the accompanying attribution must still be
obtained
through the Consuls."

GSA: VTI ROGAS.
AGG: VTI ROGAS
CFD: Uti Rogas
CFQ: Uti Rogas!
MOG: Uti Rogas.
TLF: UTI ROGAS
LCS: Uti Rogas
MCJ: VTI ROGAS
LSD: Uti Rogas The Alternitive is ordering citizens to strip the Flag
from thier sites to protect our trademark.
ATC: Uti Rogas
MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
MAM: UTI ROGAS.
QFM: VTI ROGAS
LPO: UTI ROGAS
DIP: Uti Rogas.
AICPM: Uti Rogas
LEC: Vti Rogas
PC: VTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS

Item II: [failed 9 in favor – 9 opposing – 1 abstention]

The Senate hereby establishes a minimum tax rate of $6 US.

GSA: ANTIQVO. I understand that there are good reasons to propose this
measure. However, I firmly believe that those citizens living in
poorer
regions should not pay relatively *more* to make for Nova Roma's
shortcomings.
AGG: ANTIQUO
CFD: Uti Rogas
CFQ: Uti Rogas!
MOG: Antiquo.
TLF: UTI ROGAS
LCS: Antiquo - This will hinder our development in terms of financial
stability considering that half of the funds go to the provinces.
With some citizens actually trying to draw up plans for growth in
Nova Roma this actually takes us backwards. Have there been any
studies done in regards to our inactive citizens to see if a lower
tax will produce more tax payers? Without any supporting evidence I
will vote against this measure.
MCJ: ANTIQUO To date I have seen no evidence that reducing the tax
rate will raise the number paying Citizens by any amount. I believe
such a rate would if anything discourage our Citizens, as it would
show non-commitment to building a financial base adequate for any of
our desired projects.
LSD: Uti Rogas There is a point where the effort of collecting the
tax exceeds the value collected, so a Minimum rate is needed.
ATC: Uti Rogas I believe that this is certainly a fair amount. Most
organizations have much higher fees.
MMA: YES [Uti rogas] It is in my mind that this reduction of the tax
rate will in fact enable those who could not before be rated as
taxpaying citizens to come into the fold as such. It may well be that
the concerns of my colleagues who oppose this measure are in fact
correct, as no-one has the ability to predict the decisions of
others, particularly those of a forign nation. language and culture.
But I am sure that everyone deserves the chance to be so, and as a
personal interpreter of some of the less fortunate areas of the
world, I know that while thier average salaries may not equal those
of the more developed West, thier pride is certainly equal to ours. I
say give them a chance to show it.)
MAM: UTI ROGAS.
QFM: ANTIQVO While I understand the convoluted reasoning of this, a
flat tax is not an answer, nor does it accomplish much. What the
Quaestors need, is determine the average tax that can be afforded by
each province, and set those accordingly. That was the original idea
behind all of taxation here in Nova Roma. Just like it is the
reasoning behind the tribute tax in the old republic. With this new
flat tax, we diminish revenue, not increase it.
LPO: ABSTINEO
DIP: Antiquo. Too often in Nova Roma there are proposals to change
the system before the existing machinery in place is allowed to work
for the first time. We voted to have a variable tax rate based on
national income. Let's try it as previously voted upon. This proposal
will partially raise the taxes of those in poorer countries while
leaving the wealthier countries untouched. What was the sense of
instituting the sliding scale if we are now going to partially bypass
it?
AICPM: Uti Rogas
LEC: Vti Rogas
PC: ANTIQVO
LSA: ANTIQUO I agree that we should let the last enacted tax law
prove its worth or folly before modifying it. In addition, I am still
opposed in principle to the idea that tax rates for individuals
should be based upon any average economic measure for the nation or
region in which they happen to live.

Item III. [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1 undisclosed abstention]

In all cases in which a Senatus Consultum specifies a deadline for
calling a meeting of the Senate, the presiding magistrate is given
leave to postpone the required meeting until the nearest dies
comitialis, even if this places the meeting after the specified
deadline.

GSA: VTI ROGAS.
AGG: VTI ROGAS
CFD: Uti Rogas
CFQ: Uti Rogas!
MOG: Uti Rogas.
TLF: UTI ROGAS
LCS: [did not cast vote on this item – counted as undisclosed
abstention]
MCJ: VTI ROGAS
LSD: Uti Rogas We have to maintain respect for the Gods.
ATC: Uti Rogas
MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
MAM: UTI ROGAS.
QFM: VTI ROGAS
LPO: UTI ROGAS
DIP: Uti Rogas.
AICPM: Uti Rogas
LEC: Vti Rogas
PC: VTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS

Proroguing Existing Governors [individual votes are given only where
comments were made or where the candidate was not supported]

CFD: Gentlemen, I thank you all for your work in behalf of our res
publica. The provinces are the bricks for the Nova Roma building, and
we need dedicated citizens leading them. Continue your fine work
LSD: I Commend all the Provincial Praetors for thier work on behalf
of the Res Publica.
ATC: I have voted in favor of all, except for one which I abstained.
I hope this year sometime to find someone to replace me as
Propraetor. I simply don't have enough time do devote to the position
in a proper manner. I will do what I am able until then.

IV. Marcus Bianchius Antonius [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]

V. Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
ATC: Abstineo

VI. Caius Minucius Hadrianus [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
DIP: Uti Rogas. He has done a most admirable job as the successor to
Marcus Audens and I am glad to have him as governor of my province.
PC: VTI ROGAS, with thanks for all he has done for Nova Britannia
Provincia.

VII. Caeso Fabius Quintilianus [passed 17 in favor – 1 opposing – 1
abstaining]
CFQ: Abstineo!
LCS: Antiquo. I must vote against this because I do not think he has
done an adequate job maintaining the Consulship and his provincia. I
would rather have a Consul who can devote the time and energy with
fewer mistakes then to have a Consul who is inadequate in leading the
State.
MMA - YES [Uti rogas] A resounding YES to this particular vote. This
gentleman has always done a magnificent job in his various
appointments and tasks in Nova Roma. He is now engaged with his
Honored Consular Colleague in the challenging task of setting aright,
within this micronation, those concerns which lesser men who went
before them have disrupted and aggrevated. It is my belief that we
need to support this active and able gentleman in any area for which
he believes himself to be qualified).
DIP: Uti Rogas. While I may not always see eye to eye politically
with Consul Quintilianus, he is a gentleman and well liked in his
province and fully deserving of being prorogued

VIII. Decimus Inius Silanus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
DIP: Uti Rogas. A credit to Nova Roma, his province and his gens. It
is an honor to vote to continue him in this office.

IX. Quintus Fabius Maximus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
QFM: ABSTANO
DIP: Uti Rogas. Another worthy gentleman who does great service to
his name and Nova Roma.

X. Caius Flavius Diocletianus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
CFD: Abstineo
DIP: Uti Rogas. A praiseworthy censor, senator, governor and Nova
Roman.

XI. Lucius Pompeius Octavianus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
LPO: ABSTINEO

XII. Marcus Arminius Maior [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
MAM: ABSTINEO

XIII. Gaius Sentius Bruttius Sura [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]

XIV. Franciscus Apulus Caesar [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]

XV. Sextus Cornelius Cotta [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]

XVI. Petrus Domitianus Artorinus Longinus [passed 19 in favor – 0
opposing]

XVII. Antonius Gryllus Graecus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
abstaining]
AGG: ABSTINEO

Appointing New Governors [individual votes are given only where
comments were made or where the candidate was not supported]

ATC: I believe that they should be given the opportunity to "spread
their wings" so to speak.

XVIII. Gaius Popillius Laenas [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
LSD: Uti Rogas Gaius Popillius did an outstanding job as Questor last
year. I'm certain that he will do the same in America Austrorientalis.
DIP: Uti Rogas. He will make a fine governor and is a worthy
successor to L. Sicinius Drusus.
LEC: Vti Rogas, I'm pleased, in addition to the fine candidate we
have here, that there are enough active cives to facilitate this
healthy turnover in the Provincia

XIX. Caius Iulius Barcinus Ciconius [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
[Note of the reporting Tribune: Senator LSA voted to "prorogue" Gaius
Iulius Barcinus Ciconius , which was counted as support for
his "appointment", Senator LPO changed his original vote "proroguing"
Gaius Iulius Barcinus Ciconius to support for "appointment"]
LEC: Vti Rogas, Idem, would that other governores turn over the
reigns to new citizens, that more may become involved

The following items were being presented to the Senate again on
behalf of Consul CFQ.

Item XX. [passed 18 in favor – 1 opposing]

Approval of the Revised Budget (called "6 ISSUES PER YEAR") for
MMDCCLVI as
posted by Caeso Fabius Quintilianus with the following additions:

a/ The Eagle shall be printed in ten issues this year, the first
already being printed.
b/ The total sum in the Budget of $877 (printing = 499.00 + mailing =
378.00) for the Eagle should be set as the _maximum_ sum for the 10
issues for this year, the sum also includs the first issue for this
year. All money that may be left over from this sum stays in the
Treasury. The Curator Differum is free to use the above sum as he
finds best and he may move money between the printing and mailing
account as needed.
c/ The Curator Differum is free to find other ways to finace the
Eagle, among others he has the permission to sell mugs with the Nova
Roma Flag on them, with one hundred percent of the funds going to the
Eagle. This will have to be done without any start up funds and the
Curator will not be free to place any orders for mugs until he has
orders for them in hands.
d/ The Curator Differum is allowed to keep sums, given without any
binding promises, that are donated directly to the Eagle in a fund
only supporting the Eagle and its production. *Any long time projects
of any kind over the present year binding Nova Roma for any more
years of production of the Eagle as anything else than a web based
newsletter must be approved of by the Consuls and ultimately the
Senate.*
e/ Within these limits the Curator Differum is free to produce nine
more issues of the Eagle in the best way he can do it financially and
qualitywise.
f/ Further the Curator Differum is invited to consult those Senators
(Illustrus Decius Iunius Palladius, Illustrus Q. Fabius Maximus,
Illustrus Minucius Audens, Illustrus Marcus Cassius Julianus and
Illustus L. Sicinius Drusus) that may have good advises about
different production alternatives for the Eagle.

GSA: VTI ROGAS.
AGG: VTI ROGAS
CFD: Uti Rogas
CFQ: Uti Rogas!
MOG: Uti Rogas.
TLF: UTI ROGAS
LCS: Uti Rogas
MCJ: VTI ROGAS
LSD: Uti Rogas
ATC: Uti Rogas,
MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
MAM: UTI ROGAS.
QFM: ANTIQVO I believe that this is inadequate for the task.
LPO: UTI ROGAS
DIP: Uti Rogas. I here reiterate the comments I made during the
previous Senate session on this very item: I vote for this item
though I wish it did more for the long term preservation of the
Eagle. There is no clause in here setting a subscription rate or
allowing new subscribers. Essentially, it will allow the Eagle to die
when the current subscribers run out. This cannot be allowed to
happen; we must have some kind of tangible, real world publication,
not just another internet magazine as has been suggested (though that
would be fine for reference and old issues). Save the Eagle!
AICPM: Uti Rogas
LEC: Vti Rogas
PC: VTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS

Item XXI. [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]

The state of Maine, in which Nova Roma is incorporated, requires
every nonprofit organization that is organized for the public benefit
to
restate this purpose in their yearly report. Therefore, the Senate
hereby reaffirms that Nova Roma is formed for the public benefit and
directs the consuls to see to it that the proper authorities are
apprised of this fact.

GSA: VTI ROGAS
AGG: VTI ROGAS.
CFD: Uti Rogas. An important issue.
CFQ: Uti Rogas!
MOG: Uti Rogas.
TLF: UTI ROGAS
LCS: Uti Rogas
MCJ: VTI ROGAS
LSD: Uti Rogas
ATC: Uti Rogas, This should of course be done. It seems like common
sense to me.
MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
MAM: UTI ROGAS.
QFM: VTI ROGAS Let it be carried out
LPO: UTI ROGAS
DIP: Uti Rogas.
AICPM: Uti Rogas. An important issue.
LEC: Vti Rogas
PC: VTI ROGAS This is a formality to meet a new requirement in Maine
law, and does not change anything in Nova Roma's constitution or
purpose.
LSA: UTI ROGAS


Item XXII. [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1 abstaining]
Roman Alburnus Maior is in big trouble, it is a Roman site and many
international institutions are trying to stop the exploitation of
Rosia Montana. This will damage this village.

I propose that the Senate support the community of Rosia Montana with
a statement of support. For information about this case see the text
about Roman Alburnus Maior written by Manius Constantinus Serapio.
The Consuls are given the task to see to that this decision is
executed.

GSA: VTI ROGAS. I thank quaestor Serapio's additional comments on
this issue. I am now happy to support it beyond any doubt.
AGG: VTI ROGAS
CFD: A sole statement of support is appropriate to show the community
of Rosia Montana that the res publica is by it´s side. No expenses
are connected with this statement. Alburnus Maior is a heritage from
our history, so I vote Uti Rogas.
CFQ: Uti Rogas!
MOG: Uti Rogas.
TLF: UTI ROGAS
LCS: Uti Rogas
MCJ: VTI ROGAS
LSD: Uti Rogas Since this has been clarified I pleased to be able to
vote for this.
ATC: Uti Rogas, As one who has signed the petition, I fully support
this move.
MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
MAM: UTI ROGAS.
QFM: VTI ROGAS Verbal Support only...
LPO: UTI ROGAS
DIP: Uti Rogas. I am satisfied with the explanation of the form our
support will take.
AICPM: [Uti Rogas] No current profit could value the destruction of
our heritage.I fully agree with a statement of support for the Rosia
Montana community. Alburnus Maior should to be saved.
LEC: Absto, once again this item is presented in vague terms. I'd
like to see the "statement of support" on which I would be signing.
If the Consules want to send something in their name, that's their
affair. However, something sent in the name of the Senate and People
of Nova Roma I want to see first. I'm sure that whatever is sent will
be fine, but I'd like to see it before approving it.
PC: VTI ROGAS
LSA: UTI ROGAS



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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Results of the last Senate Vote
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:00:41 -0000

Fr. Apulus Caesar Omnibus S.P.D.

First of all I want thank the Senate to have voted for the support
to Rosia Montana. The conservation of our heritage must be one of
the most important goals of our Res Publica. Congratulations to the
Illustris Senatores to have understood how many important is Rosia
Montana for the Romans.

Thank you too to have re-appointed me again as Propraetor Italiae, I
want you all will be proud of me, my staff and my Provincia! We'll
continue our hard job to grow the Provincia Italia.

And congratulations to all the Illustri Governors appointed today! I
wish a lucky and rich job to the new Propraetors and a wonderful
year to the old.

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "rexmarciusnr <RexMarcius@a...>"
<RexMarcius@a...> wrote:
> Tribunus Plebis Marcus Marcius Rex Quiritibus SPD
>
> Senate Voting Results published on 3 March 2756.
>
> The Senate has finished its latest session and the votes have been
> tallied as below.
>
> Formal debate ended at 09.00 Roman time, Sunday February 23 (diem
> quintum Kalendas Martias MMDCCLVI) and voting began immediately
> after. Voting ended at 19.00 Roman time Wednesday February 26
(ante
> diem secundum Kalendas Martias MMDCCLVI). Results were officially
> published by the presiding magistrate on the Senate list 28
February
> 2756.
>
> I may quote Senator Lucius Sergius Australicus here: "It seems
> strange that there has been essentially no discussion of these
> matters until votes are cast."
>
> The following 19 Senators cast votes in time. They are referred to
> below by their initials, and are listed in alphabetical order by
> nomen:
>
> Marcus Arminius Maior (MAM)
> Marcus Cassius Julianus (MCJ)
> Patricia Cassia (PC)
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla (LCS)
> Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus (LEC)
> Caius Flavius Diocletianus (CFD)
> Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (CFQ)
> Quintus Fabius Maximus (QFM)
> Antonius Gryllus Graecus (AGG)
> Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus Macedonicus (AICPM)
> Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (DIPI)
> Titus Labienus Fortunatus (TLF)
> Marcus Minucius Audens (MMA)
> Marcus Octavius Germanicus (MOG)
> Lucius Pompeius Octavianus (LPO)
> Gnaeus Salix Astur (GSA)
> Lucius Sergius Australicus Obstinatus (LSAO)
> Lucius Sicinius Drusus (LSD)
> Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato (ATMC)
>
>
> The following Senator did not cast a vote [and his absence was not
> announced or justified in line with the Senatus Consultum defining
a
> quorum (http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/2001-07-18-
> vii.html) and the LEX OCTAVIA DE SENATORIBUS
> (http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/leges/2002-02-27-iv.html)
which
> this Tribune reads in conjunction]:
> Gaius Marius Merullus (CMM)
>
> The necessary majority for a Senatus consultum therefore was 11
votes
> in favor.
>
> "UTI ROGAS" indicates a vote in favor of an item, "ANTIQUO"
> or "NEGAT" is a vote against, and "ABSTINEO" is an open
abstention.
> Square Brackets [ ] indicate explanations by the reporting Tribune.
>
> The items for consideration were as follows
>
> Agenda
>
> Item I: [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
>
> Fl Vedius' now-defunct edictum allowing cives to use the Nova
Roman
> flag on Nova Roman related material, including Web sites, shall be
> enacted as a Senatus Consultum.
>
> [Introductory comments by TLF:] "The full text of agenda item I
> follows. I believe that it is necessary to enact this as a
permanent
> policy, as there are now quite a few Web sites that are
technically
> violating our copyright. As has been pointed out, we can lose our
> ownership of Nova Roma's intellectual property if we don't protect
> it. Therefore, it seems best to unequivocally establish the
policy,
> rather than simply fail to enforce our right to the Nova Roman
flag
> in order to allow our cives to advertise us on the Web and
elsewhere."
>
> _____________
>
> I. Fl Vedius' now-defunct edictum allowing cives to use the Nova
> Roman flag on
> Nova Roman related material, including Web sites, shall be enacted
as
> a Senatus
> Consultum. The text of the edictum is as follows:
>
> "Permission is hereby granted for all Citizens, magistrates,
> provincia,
> sodalitates, and other organizations of Nova Roma to use the image
of
> our flag
> on websites related to Nova Roma. The image may, at the time of
the
> propagation
> of this edict, be found at
> http://www.novaroma.org/cursus_honorum/spqr.jpg on the main web
site.
> When
> used, the image may not be altered in any way except to scale it
up
> or down in
> size, and must be accompanied by the following HTML code
(unaltered)
> somewhere
> on the same page as the flag image:
>
> "The Nova Roman 'Gold SPQR in a gold wreath on a crimson field'
flag
> is a use-
> protected trademark of Nova Roma and is used with permission.
>
> "Permission to use the image of the Nova Roman flag in other
> contexts, in
> altered form, or without the accompanying attribution must still
be
> obtained
> through the Consuls."
>
> GSA: VTI ROGAS.
> AGG: VTI ROGAS
> CFD: Uti Rogas
> CFQ: Uti Rogas!
> MOG: Uti Rogas.
> TLF: UTI ROGAS
> LCS: Uti Rogas
> MCJ: VTI ROGAS
> LSD: Uti Rogas The Alternitive is ordering citizens to strip the
Flag
> from thier sites to protect our trademark.
> ATC: Uti Rogas
> MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
> MAM: UTI ROGAS.
> QFM: VTI ROGAS
> LPO: UTI ROGAS
> DIP: Uti Rogas.
> AICPM: Uti Rogas
> LEC: Vti Rogas
> PC: VTI ROGAS
> LSA: UTI ROGAS
>
> Item II: [failed 9 in favor – 9 opposing – 1 abstention]
>
> The Senate hereby establishes a minimum tax rate of $6 US.
>
> GSA: ANTIQVO. I understand that there are good reasons to propose
this
> measure. However, I firmly believe that those citizens living in
> poorer
> regions should not pay relatively *more* to make for Nova Roma's
> shortcomings.
> AGG: ANTIQUO
> CFD: Uti Rogas
> CFQ: Uti Rogas!
> MOG: Antiquo.
> TLF: UTI ROGAS
> LCS: Antiquo - This will hinder our development in terms of
financial
> stability considering that half of the funds go to the provinces.
> With some citizens actually trying to draw up plans for growth in
> Nova Roma this actually takes us backwards. Have there been any
> studies done in regards to our inactive citizens to see if a lower
> tax will produce more tax payers? Without any supporting evidence
I
> will vote against this measure.
> MCJ: ANTIQUO To date I have seen no evidence that reducing the tax
> rate will raise the number paying Citizens by any amount. I
believe
> such a rate would if anything discourage our Citizens, as it would
> show non-commitment to building a financial base adequate for any
of
> our desired projects.
> LSD: Uti Rogas There is a point where the effort of collecting the
> tax exceeds the value collected, so a Minimum rate is needed.
> ATC: Uti Rogas I believe that this is certainly a fair amount.
Most
> organizations have much higher fees.
> MMA: YES [Uti rogas] It is in my mind that this reduction of the
tax
> rate will in fact enable those who could not before be rated as
> taxpaying citizens to come into the fold as such. It may well be
that
> the concerns of my colleagues who oppose this measure are in fact
> correct, as no-one has the ability to predict the decisions of
> others, particularly those of a forign nation. language and
culture.
> But I am sure that everyone deserves the chance to be so, and as a
> personal interpreter of some of the less fortunate areas of the
> world, I know that while thier average salaries may not equal
those
> of the more developed West, thier pride is certainly equal to
ours. I
> say give them a chance to show it.)
> MAM: UTI ROGAS.
> QFM: ANTIQVO While I understand the convoluted reasoning of this,
a
> flat tax is not an answer, nor does it accomplish much. What the
> Quaestors need, is determine the average tax that can be afforded
by
> each province, and set those accordingly. That was the original
idea
> behind all of taxation here in Nova Roma. Just like it is the
> reasoning behind the tribute tax in the old republic. With this
new
> flat tax, we diminish revenue, not increase it.
> LPO: ABSTINEO
> DIP: Antiquo. Too often in Nova Roma there are proposals to change
> the system before the existing machinery in place is allowed to
work
> for the first time. We voted to have a variable tax rate based on
> national income. Let's try it as previously voted upon. This
proposal
> will partially raise the taxes of those in poorer countries while
> leaving the wealthier countries untouched. What was the sense of
> instituting the sliding scale if we are now going to partially
bypass
> it?
> AICPM: Uti Rogas
> LEC: Vti Rogas
> PC: ANTIQVO
> LSA: ANTIQUO I agree that we should let the last enacted tax law
> prove its worth or folly before modifying it. In addition, I am
still
> opposed in principle to the idea that tax rates for individuals
> should be based upon any average economic measure for the nation
or
> region in which they happen to live.
>
> Item III. [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1 undisclosed
abstention]
>
> In all cases in which a Senatus Consultum specifies a deadline for
> calling a meeting of the Senate, the presiding magistrate is given
> leave to postpone the required meeting until the nearest dies
> comitialis, even if this places the meeting after the specified
> deadline.
>
> GSA: VTI ROGAS.
> AGG: VTI ROGAS
> CFD: Uti Rogas
> CFQ: Uti Rogas!
> MOG: Uti Rogas.
> TLF: UTI ROGAS
> LCS: [did not cast vote on this item – counted as undisclosed
> abstention]
> MCJ: VTI ROGAS
> LSD: Uti Rogas We have to maintain respect for the Gods.
> ATC: Uti Rogas
> MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
> MAM: UTI ROGAS.
> QFM: VTI ROGAS
> LPO: UTI ROGAS
> DIP: Uti Rogas.
> AICPM: Uti Rogas
> LEC: Vti Rogas
> PC: VTI ROGAS
> LSA: UTI ROGAS
>
> Proroguing Existing Governors [individual votes are given only
where
> comments were made or where the candidate was not supported]
>
> CFD: Gentlemen, I thank you all for your work in behalf of our res
> publica. The provinces are the bricks for the Nova Roma building,
and
> we need dedicated citizens leading them. Continue your fine work
> LSD: I Commend all the Provincial Praetors for thier work on
behalf
> of the Res Publica.
> ATC: I have voted in favor of all, except for one which I
abstained.
> I hope this year sometime to find someone to replace me as
> Propraetor. I simply don't have enough time do devote to the
position
> in a proper manner. I will do what I am able until then.
>
> IV. Marcus Bianchius Antonius [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
>
> V. Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing –
1
> abstaining]
> ATC: Abstineo
>
> VI. Caius Minucius Hadrianus [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
> DIP: Uti Rogas. He has done a most admirable job as the successor
to
> Marcus Audens and I am glad to have him as governor of my province.
> PC: VTI ROGAS, with thanks for all he has done for Nova Britannia
> Provincia.
>
> VII. Caeso Fabius Quintilianus [passed 17 in favor – 1 opposing –
1
> abstaining]
> CFQ: Abstineo!
> LCS: Antiquo. I must vote against this because I do not think he
has
> done an adequate job maintaining the Consulship and his provincia.
I
> would rather have a Consul who can devote the time and energy with
> fewer mistakes then to have a Consul who is inadequate in leading
the
> State.
> MMA - YES [Uti rogas] A resounding YES to this particular vote.
This
> gentleman has always done a magnificent job in his various
> appointments and tasks in Nova Roma. He is now engaged with his
> Honored Consular Colleague in the challenging task of setting
aright,
> within this micronation, those concerns which lesser men who went
> before them have disrupted and aggrevated. It is my belief that we
> need to support this active and able gentleman in any area for
which
> he believes himself to be qualified).
> DIP: Uti Rogas. While I may not always see eye to eye politically
> with Consul Quintilianus, he is a gentleman and well liked in his
> province and fully deserving of being prorogued
>
> VIII. Decimus Inius Silanus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
> abstaining]
> DIP: Uti Rogas. A credit to Nova Roma, his province and his gens.
It
> is an honor to vote to continue him in this office.
>
> IX. Quintus Fabius Maximus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
> abstaining]
> QFM: ABSTANO
> DIP: Uti Rogas. Another worthy gentleman who does great service to
> his name and Nova Roma.
>
> X. Caius Flavius Diocletianus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
> abstaining]
> CFD: Abstineo
> DIP: Uti Rogas. A praiseworthy censor, senator, governor and Nova
> Roman.
>
> XI. Lucius Pompeius Octavianus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing –
1
> abstaining]
> LPO: ABSTINEO
>
> XII. Marcus Arminius Maior [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1
> abstaining]
> MAM: ABSTINEO
>
> XIII. Gaius Sentius Bruttius Sura [passed 19 in favor – 0
opposing]
>
> XIV. Franciscus Apulus Caesar [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
>
> XV. Sextus Cornelius Cotta [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
>
> XVI. Petrus Domitianus Artorinus Longinus [passed 19 in favor – 0
> opposing]
>
> XVII. Antonius Gryllus Graecus [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing –
1
> abstaining]
> AGG: ABSTINEO
>
> Appointing New Governors [individual votes are given only where
> comments were made or where the candidate was not supported]
>
> ATC: I believe that they should be given the opportunity
to "spread
> their wings" so to speak.
>
> XVIII. Gaius Popillius Laenas [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
> LSD: Uti Rogas Gaius Popillius did an outstanding job as Questor
last
> year. I'm certain that he will do the same in America
Austrorientalis.
> DIP: Uti Rogas. He will make a fine governor and is a worthy
> successor to L. Sicinius Drusus.
> LEC: Vti Rogas, I'm pleased, in addition to the fine candidate we
> have here, that there are enough active cives to facilitate this
> healthy turnover in the Provincia
>
> XIX. Caius Iulius Barcinus Ciconius [passed 19 in favor – 0
opposing]
> [Note of the reporting Tribune: Senator LSA voted to "prorogue"
Gaius
> Iulius Barcinus Ciconius , which was counted as support for
> his "appointment", Senator LPO changed his original
vote "proroguing"
> Gaius Iulius Barcinus Ciconius to support for "appointment"]
> LEC: Vti Rogas, Idem, would that other governores turn over the
> reigns to new citizens, that more may become involved
>
> The following items were being presented to the Senate again on
> behalf of Consul CFQ.
>
> Item XX. [passed 18 in favor – 1 opposing]
>
> Approval of the Revised Budget (called "6 ISSUES PER YEAR") for
> MMDCCLVI as
> posted by Caeso Fabius Quintilianus with the following additions:
>
> a/ The Eagle shall be printed in ten issues this year, the first
> already being printed.
> b/ The total sum in the Budget of $877 (printing = 499.00 +
mailing =
> 378.00) for the Eagle should be set as the _maximum_ sum for the
10
> issues for this year, the sum also includs the first issue for
this
> year. All money that may be left over from this sum stays in the
> Treasury. The Curator Differum is free to use the above sum as he
> finds best and he may move money between the printing and mailing
> account as needed.
> c/ The Curator Differum is free to find other ways to finace the
> Eagle, among others he has the permission to sell mugs with the
Nova
> Roma Flag on them, with one hundred percent of the funds going to
the
> Eagle. This will have to be done without any start up funds and
the
> Curator will not be free to place any orders for mugs until he has
> orders for them in hands.
> d/ The Curator Differum is allowed to keep sums, given without any
> binding promises, that are donated directly to the Eagle in a fund
> only supporting the Eagle and its production. *Any long time
projects
> of any kind over the present year binding Nova Roma for any more
> years of production of the Eagle as anything else than a web based
> newsletter must be approved of by the Consuls and ultimately the
> Senate.*
> e/ Within these limits the Curator Differum is free to produce
nine
> more issues of the Eagle in the best way he can do it financially
and
> qualitywise.
> f/ Further the Curator Differum is invited to consult those
Senators
> (Illustrus Decius Iunius Palladius, Illustrus Q. Fabius Maximus,
> Illustrus Minucius Audens, Illustrus Marcus Cassius Julianus and
> Illustus L. Sicinius Drusus) that may have good advises about
> different production alternatives for the Eagle.
>
> GSA: VTI ROGAS.
> AGG: VTI ROGAS
> CFD: Uti Rogas
> CFQ: Uti Rogas!
> MOG: Uti Rogas.
> TLF: UTI ROGAS
> LCS: Uti Rogas
> MCJ: VTI ROGAS
> LSD: Uti Rogas
> ATC: Uti Rogas,
> MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
> MAM: UTI ROGAS.
> QFM: ANTIQVO I believe that this is inadequate for the task.
> LPO: UTI ROGAS
> DIP: Uti Rogas. I here reiterate the comments I made during the
> previous Senate session on this very item: I vote for this item
> though I wish it did more for the long term preservation of the
> Eagle. There is no clause in here setting a subscription rate or
> allowing new subscribers. Essentially, it will allow the Eagle to
die
> when the current subscribers run out. This cannot be allowed to
> happen; we must have some kind of tangible, real world
publication,
> not just another internet magazine as has been suggested (though
that
> would be fine for reference and old issues). Save the Eagle!
> AICPM: Uti Rogas
> LEC: Vti Rogas
> PC: VTI ROGAS
> LSA: UTI ROGAS
>
> Item XXI. [passed 19 in favor – 0 opposing]
>
> The state of Maine, in which Nova Roma is incorporated, requires
> every nonprofit organization that is organized for the public
benefit
> to
> restate this purpose in their yearly report. Therefore, the Senate
> hereby reaffirms that Nova Roma is formed for the public benefit
and
> directs the consuls to see to it that the proper authorities are
> apprised of this fact.
>
> GSA: VTI ROGAS
> AGG: VTI ROGAS.
> CFD: Uti Rogas. An important issue.
> CFQ: Uti Rogas!
> MOG: Uti Rogas.
> TLF: UTI ROGAS
> LCS: Uti Rogas
> MCJ: VTI ROGAS
> LSD: Uti Rogas
> ATC: Uti Rogas, This should of course be done. It seems like
common
> sense to me.
> MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
> MAM: UTI ROGAS.
> QFM: VTI ROGAS Let it be carried out
> LPO: UTI ROGAS
> DIP: Uti Rogas.
> AICPM: Uti Rogas. An important issue.
> LEC: Vti Rogas
> PC: VTI ROGAS This is a formality to meet a new requirement in
Maine
> law, and does not change anything in Nova Roma's constitution or
> purpose.
> LSA: UTI ROGAS
>
>
> Item XXII. [passed 18 in favor – 0 opposing – 1 abstaining]
> Roman Alburnus Maior is in big trouble, it is a Roman site and
many
> international institutions are trying to stop the exploitation of
> Rosia Montana. This will damage this village.
>
> I propose that the Senate support the community of Rosia Montana
with
> a statement of support. For information about this case see the
text
> about Roman Alburnus Maior written by Manius Constantinus Serapio.
> The Consuls are given the task to see to that this decision is
> executed.
>
> GSA: VTI ROGAS. I thank quaestor Serapio's additional comments on
> this issue. I am now happy to support it beyond any doubt.
> AGG: VTI ROGAS
> CFD: A sole statement of support is appropriate to show the
community
> of Rosia Montana that the res publica is by it´s side. No expenses
> are connected with this statement. Alburnus Maior is a heritage
from
> our history, so I vote Uti Rogas.
> CFQ: Uti Rogas!
> MOG: Uti Rogas.
> TLF: UTI ROGAS
> LCS: Uti Rogas
> MCJ: VTI ROGAS
> LSD: Uti Rogas Since this has been clarified I pleased to be able
to
> vote for this.
> ATC: Uti Rogas, As one who has signed the petition, I fully
support
> this move.
> MMA: YES [Uti rogas]
> MAM: UTI ROGAS.
> QFM: VTI ROGAS Verbal Support only...
> LPO: UTI ROGAS
> DIP: Uti Rogas. I am satisfied with the explanation of the form
our
> support will take.
> AICPM: [Uti Rogas] No current profit could value the destruction
of
> our heritage.I fully agree with a statement of support for the
Rosia
> Montana community. Alburnus Maior should to be saved.
> LEC: Absto, once again this item is presented in vague terms. I'd
> like to see the "statement of support" on which I would be
signing.
> If the Consules want to send something in their name, that's their
> affair. However, something sent in the name of the Senate and
People
> of Nova Roma I want to see first. I'm sure that whatever is sent
will
> be fine, but I'd like to see it before approving it.
> PC: VTI ROGAS
> LSA: UTI ROGAS

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Edictum: Taxation -- Version française
From:	Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 02:25:01 -0800 (PST)

Salvete,

veuillez trouver ci après la traduction de l'Edictum de notre Consul T. Labienus
Fortunatus. Pour d'autres informations, veuillez me contacter!

T Labienus Fortunatus Consul Quiritibus SPD

Conformément au senatusconsultum passe en Novembre dernier, j'établis ci-après le taux de
la taxe pour MMDCCLVI en accordance avec le tableau à la fin de ce message.

Je demande à chacun des gouverneurs de transmettre cette annonce sur leur liste
provinciale et à chaque interprète officiel de la traduire dans leur langage respectif.

Les citoyens réglant en US dollars peuvent envoyer un chèque, un mandat ou tout autre
moyen équivalent à l'ordre de Nova Roma directement à:

Nova Roma
PO Box 1897
Wells, ME 04090

Les autres citoyens devront utliser un mandat international en US dollars pour le montant
de leur taxe et l'envoyer à l'adresse ci dessus. Veuillez noter que les chèques en
monnaie locale seront plus onéreux à encaisser que leur valeur réelle.

Certains gouverneurs provinciaux peuvent arranger un paiement centralisé au niveau de la
province. Celle-ci fera ensuite un seul virement au trésor. Les citoyens sont encouragés
à contacter leur gouverneur afin de savoir si un tel procédé sera mis en place.

Les citoyens en Europe dont le gouverneur aura choisi de ne pas agir en tant que
centralisateur peuvent contacter mon Queastor Cn. Octavius Noricus
(cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at) afin d'arranger le paiement.

Les citoyens qui en ont la possibilité peuvent régler leur taxe par Paypal. Un lien à cet
effet se trouve sur la page principale du site de Nova Roma. Il s'agit de l'image
violette affichant "DONO DARE" et "give to Nova Roma via PayPal" située sous le menu
principal.

Tous les citoyens doivent indiquer leur nom romain complet ainsi qu'éventuellement celui
des citoyens pour lesquels ils règlent la taxe. Paypal met a disposition un champ de
commentaires oú devront figurer les noms. Cela assurera la qualité de Assidui aux
citoyens qui s'acquitteront de la taxe.

Toute question pourra être posé à moi même (labienus@novaroma.org) ou à mon Quaestor
(cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at). Si vous adressez votre question sur la liste principale,
veuillez me mettre en copie.

La date limite est le dernier jour de Aprilis. Les taxes seront chargées d'une pénalité
de 50% si elles arrivent après cette date. A titre d'exemple, un citoyen qui doit $12
devra régler $18 après la date limite.

Dans le tableau suivant, les pays se trouvant dans une province sont listés en premier
dans la liste alphabetique des Provinces, suivis des pays n'appartenant pas à une
Province.

Montant de la Taxe Montant de la Taxe
Pays_________Provincia____________ en Monnaie locale____en US dollars
United States America Austrocc. 12.00 USD 12.00
United States America Austror. 12.00 USD 12.00
United States America Boreocc. 12.00 USD 12.00
United States America Mediocc. Sup. 12.00 USD 12.00
Argentina Argentina 12.00 ARS 3.81
Israel Asia Occidentalis 35.00 ILS 7.28
Turkey Asia Occidentalis 3700000.00 TRL 2.31
Japan Asia Orientalis 1100.00 JPY 9.31
Korea Asia Orientalis 7060.00 KRW 5.95
Malaysia Asia Orientalis 11.00 MYR 2.90
Philippines Asia Orientalis 72.00 PHP 1.32
Singapore Asia Orientalis 14.00 SGD 8.05
Australia Australia 14.00 AUD 8.48
Czech Republic Bohemia 140.00 CZK 4.75
Brazil Brasilia 9.00 BRL 2.51
United Kingdom Britannia 5.00 GBP 7.87
United States California 12.00 USD 12.00
Canada Canada Occidentalis 14.00 CAD 9.44
Canada Canada Orientalis 14.00 CAD 9.44
Belgium Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
France Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
Netherlands Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
Austria Germania 8.50 EUR 9.16
Germany Germania 8.50 EUR 9.16
Switzerland Germania 12.50 CHF 9.22
Spain Hispania 6.00 EUR 6.46
Italy Italia 7.50 EUR 8.08
United States Lacus Magni 12.00 USD 12.00
Portugal Lusitania 5.50 EUR 5.93
United States Mediatlantica 12.00 USD 12.00
Mexico Mexico 35.00 MXN 3.17
United States Nova Britannia 12.00 USD 12.00
Hungary Pannonia 920.00 HUF 4.08
Slovakia Pannonia 150.00 SKK 3.87
Russia Sarmatia 90.00 RUR 2.85
Ukraine Sarmatia 7.50 UAH 1.41
Denmark Thule 65.00 DKK 9.43
Finland Thule 8.00 EUR 8.62
Iceland Thule 630.00 ISK 8.12
Norway Thule 70.00 NOK 9.77
Sweden Thule 70.00 SEK 8.26
Poland Venedia 12.00 PLN 3.07

Albania 180.00 ALL 1.40
Andorra 6.00 EUR 6.46
Armenia 630.00 AMD 1.17
Bosnia-Herzegovina 1.00 BAM 0.55
Bulgaria 4.00 BGL 2.21
Chile 2500.00 CLP 3.32
China 14.00 CNY 1.69
Colombia 4800.00 COP 1.62
Costa Rica 970.00 CRC 2.52
Croatia 23.50 HRK 3.32
Greece 5.50 EUR 5.92
Honduras 14.00 HNL 0.82
Ireland 8.50 EUR 9.16
Macedonia 95.00 MKD 1.70
Morocco 15.00 MAD 1.51
New Zealand 12.00 NZD 6.70
Nicaragua 11.50 NIO 0.78
Nigeria 32.00 NGN 0.25
Romania 75000.00 ROL 2.27
South Africa 27.00 ZAR 3.32
Uruguay 44.00 UYU 1.56
Venezuela 3900.00 VEB 2.44
Vietnam 10798.20 VND 0.70
Yugoslavia 50.00 YUM 0.87

Valete,




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Consular Quaestor 2756 AUC
Propraetor Galliae
Sodalitas Egressus, Praefectus for France -- French Translator
Scriba Explorator Primus et Scriba Fiscalis Primus Academiae Thules
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Results of the last Senate Vote
From:	"gaiuspopilliuslaenas <ksterne@bellsouth.net>" <ksterne@bellsouth.net>
Date:	Mon, 03 Mar 2003 15:22:10 -0000

Salvete Quirites,

I am honored to be appointed Propraetor of America Austrorientalis
and most grateful to the Senate for its confidence.

My thanks also to the most honorable Lucius Sicinius Drusus for
nominating me to this position and for leaving a very large toga for
me to try and fill. ;-)

Valete,
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Oath as Propraetor
From:	"gaiuspopilliuslaenas <ksterne@bellsouth.net>" <ksterne@bellsouth.net>
Date:	Mon, 03 Mar 2003 15:24:15 -0000

I, Gaius Popillius Laenas (John Keith Sterne) do hereby solemnly
swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, and to act always in the
best interests of the people and the Senate of Nova Roma.
As a magistrate of Nova Roma, I, Gaius Popillius Laenas (John Keith
Sterne) swear to honor the Gods and Goddesses of Rome in my public
dealings, and to pursue the Roman Virtues in my public and private
life.

I, Gaius Popillius Laenas (John Keith Sterne) swear to uphold and
defend the Religio Romana as the State Religion of Nova Roma and
swear never to act in a way that would threaten its status as the
State Religion.

I, Gaius Popillius Laenas (John Keith Sterne) swear to protect and
defend the Constitution of Nova Roma.

I, Gaius Popillius Laenas (John Keith Sterne) further swear to
fulfill the obligations and responsibilities of the office of
Propraetor of America Austrorientalis to the best of my abilities.

On my honor as a Citizen of Nova Roma, and in the presence of the
Gods and Goddesses of the Roman people and by their will and favor,
do I accept the position of Propraetor of America Austrorientalis
and all the rights, privileges, obligations, and responsibilities
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Results of the last Senate Vote
From:	Sextus Apollonius Scipio <scipio_apollonius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:45:36 -0800 (PST)

Salvete,

congratulations for the new Propraetors!!
And I would like to thank our honored Senate for its renewed confidence in the duty of
the actual Governors. We will do our best to deserve it.

Valete,

Sextus Apollonius Scipio
Propraetor Galliae

--- "gaiuspopilliuslaenas <ksterne@bellsouth.net>" <ksterne@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Salvete Quirites,
>
> I am honored to be appointed Propraetor of America Austrorientalis
> and most grateful to the Senate for its confidence.
>
> My thanks also to the most honorable Lucius Sicinius Drusus for
> nominating me to this position and for leaving a very large toga for
> me to try and fill. ;-)
>
> Valete,
> Gaius Popillius Laenas
>
>


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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Absence
From:	"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:28:05 -0800 (PST)

Salve,

Tomorrow afternoon I will be having surgery on my
knee. It will be handled on an outpatient basis, but I
don't expect I'll be very mobile the following day, so
I will be absent from about 11 AM EST Tuesday March 3
until Thursday March 5th.

L. Sicinius Drusus
Senator

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Absence
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:31:40 -0500

Salve and good luck with the surgery

Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

----- Original Message -----
From: L. Sicinius Drusus
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:30 AM
To: Nova Roma; Senate
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Absence

Salve,

Tomorrow afternoon I will be having surgery on my
knee. It will be handled on an outpatient basis, but I
don't expect I'll be very mobile the following day, so
I will be absent from about 11 AM EST Tuesday March 3
until Thursday March 5th.

L. Sicinius Drusus
Senator

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Absence
From:	"jlasalle" <jlasalle@sbcglobal.net>
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:12:31 -0600

Ave

Good luck with the knee!

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Scriba Curatoris Differum Lex Iuridicalis
Legate Major for Regio Campus
America Medioccidentalis Superior Province

"It is indeed a desirable thing to be well-descended, but the glory belongs
to our ancestors."
-Plutarch (46-120AD)

-----Original Message-----
From: L. Sicinius Drusus [mailto:lsicinius@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:28 AM
To: Nova Roma; Senate
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Absence


Salve,

Tomorrow afternoon I will be having surgery on my
knee. It will be handled on an outpatient basis, but I
don't expect I'll be very mobile the following day, so
I will be absent from about 11 AM EST Tuesday March 3
until Thursday March 5th.

L. Sicinius Drusus
Senator

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Gens
From:	"jlasalle" <jlasalle@sbcglobal.net>
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:32:17 -0600

Could be. i know my father had a limtited family tree search done, and it
was discovered that many in Vaglio Basilicata are of Albanian origin, from
as far back as 13ht century. i have no idea if this is true or not, but
could explain mine and my families physical appearance.

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Scriba Curatoris Differum Lex Iuridicalis
Legate Major for Regio Campus
America Medioccidentalis Superior Province

"It is indeed a desirable thing to be well-descended, but the glory belongs
to our ancestors."
-Plutarch (46-120AD)

-----Original Message-----
From: me-in-@disguise.co.uk [mailto:me-in-@disguise.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 3:41 PM
To: nova-roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Gens


-----Original Message-----
From : “Marcus Iulius Perusianus <m_iulius@virgilio.it>“
<m_iulius@virgilio.it>

>As “Basilici“ was the name of the books of law in Byzantium in IX
>century, probably the toponym “Basilicata“ meant land of Basileus,
>that is to say “land of the king of Byzantium“.
>This was introduced to distinguish that part of the region from the
>other part still called with the Latin name “Lucania“.
>
If that is so, it might have been part of the former Exarchate of Ravenna
that did not become Papal Lands when the Franks kicked the Lombards out of
it, or maybe it was territory that the Empire tried to reclaim later.

Caesariensis.


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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Digest No 482
From:	"jlasalle" <jlasalle@sbcglobal.net>
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:49:48 -0600

Ave

I believe wholeheartedly in welcoming new members. I also believe that part
of getting new members involved is to be interested in them. My new personal
policy is to identify those people that are new, especially when they
announce their citizenship, and send them a quick note asking them about
themselves, why they joined Nova Roma, what they find interesting about
Rome, etc. Its too easy to get into the comfortable position of just reading
the threads one starts or ones that hold an interest for you personally. I
am guilty of this. I believe it would be easy for a new citizen to believe
they are sort of on the outside and be afraid of participating. We have to
draw them in by truly rolling out the welcome wagon.

And no, aliens have not taken over my mind. I really want to see us
succeed.

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Scriba Curatoris Differum Lex Iuridicalis
Legate Major for Regio Campus
America Medioccidentalis Superior Province

"It is indeed a desirable thing to be well-descended, but the glory belongs
to our ancestors."
-Plutarch (46-120AD)

-----Original Message-----
From: Lucius Equitius [mailto:vergil@starpower.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 1:56 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Digest No 482


Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur Quiritibus SPD

I'm proud, along with my wife Irene Afrania Lentula, to be a tax paying
citizens who have been here since the initiation. On the occasion of the
5th
anniversary of Nova Roma's I'd like to post a few of my observations.

As the first non-founding citizen to be appointed to the Senate and
elected
Consul I consider the willingness of Nova Roma to open it's arms to new
citizens and allow them to contribute in significant ways to be a main
reason for our rapid growth. What was in the first years a small group of
people concentrated in the Northeast of the United States has grown in to
an
organization with members form around the world. This year we have elected
two Plebian Consules, one plebian Praetor, two of these are not residents
of
North America. Last year we added five Senatores, two from South America,
one from Europe, one from Canada with one from the United States but from
the Southeast. This is our path to success, promoting people who have the
ability and desire to work for our goals of promoting Roman Culture,
Virtues
and the Religio Romana.

My hope is that Nova Roma will continue to welcome new talent into it's
ranks. I'm troubled to see that there aren't more citizens taking up or
being given positions within the various systems of government. It appears
to me that we see the same names repeated in appointments to various
magistrates, but perhaps this is a consequence of not enough citizens
willing to contribute. Well, Rome wasn't built in a day, as the saying
goes.
I do hope that in the future those of us who have made a name for
ourselves
will be willing to make room for new citizens to take up positions of
responsibility too. They do have to earn there way but we must give them
opportunity.

We have grown despite not having any full time professionals employed, but
rather because we have professionals, and some of us who are not pros, who
*give* their talents and time.

Bene omnibus nobis
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 7
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 00:02:00 -0000
From: "deciusiunius <bcatfd@together.net>" <bcatfd@together.net>
Subject: Palladius' Reflections on the past Five Years

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
<haase@c...> wrote:
> Salve Senator Corneli,

Salve M. Octavi, L. Corneli et omnes,


> > It has been an amazing journey and I think it would be very
>interesting if our Censors could post the names of the individuals
>who have been in Nova Roma since the beginning.
>
> Here are those who joined in or before March 1998 (alphabetically):
>
> Assidui:
> Irene Afrania Lentula | MD | US
> Patricia Cassia | ME | US
> Marcus Cassius Julianus | ME | US
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix | CA | US
> Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur | MD | US
> Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus | VT | US
> Gaius Marius Merullus | NH | US
> Gnaeus Marius Asiaticus | TX | US
> Marcus Octavius Germanicus | IL | US
>
> Capite Censi:
> Numerius Cordius Paulus | KY | US
> Tertia Libertania Regina | NM | US

<SNIP>

Thank you Sulla for making the request and thank you Octavius for
putting up this list. It brings back a lot of memories and reminds me
of how far we have come.
<SNIP>
The establishment of the state
governmental and religious structures has made the Religio Romana
possible and therefore a success of Nova Roma, no matter what heights
we reach from here. And make no mistake, there are heights yet to be
reached by Nova Roma.

Valete,

Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus,
Senator, Praetor

Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Latin terms
From:	"jlasalle" <jlasalle@sbcglobal.net>
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:00:05 -0600

Nova York Interrogatio Victoriatus. Just a guess from perusing my Latin Via
Ovid.



Gaius Basilicatus Agricola
Scriba Curatoris Differum Lex Iuridicalis
Legate Major for Regio Campus
America Medioccidentalis Superior Province

"It is indeed a desirable thing to be well-descended, but the glory belongs
to our ancestors."
-Plutarch (46-120AD)

-----Original Message-----
From: jmath669642reng@webtv.net [mailto:jmath669642reng@webtv.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 12:23 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com; ALIEBEEE@cs.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Latin terms


Citizens of Nova Roma;

I have a project centered in the Militarium which requires a Latin
translation or translations. I would appreciate very much the efforts
of those of your who have some of the Latin to translate the following
phrases for me. The phrase which best suits the purpose will be the one
that I choose. This project is in recognition of a rather significant
achievement on the part of one of our citizens, and so if anyone
recognizes the below phrases I would apprecate keeping the surprise to
themselves until the presntation is made. The gentleman concerned is
not at the moment on the Main List. The phrases to be translated are:

--"Victorius Over the New York Bar Exam";

--"Triumphant In New York Law";

--"Bar Exam Victor."

The selected comment will be carved ino a suitable presentation gift and
used to title a commission of suitable proportions and material.

My thanks for your attention to this item. Ihave done some small amount
of research in the primary words above, but my little pocket sized
Oxford LATIN minidictionary does not unfortuneately rise to this
occasion.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] On Rome
From:	Pipar - Steven <catamount_grange@inwave.com>
Date:	Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:57:37 -0600

Salus et Fortuna Omnes,

A poem I wrote as the occasion of our second anniversary approached, if I may offer a reprise?

Genesis Romana - 22 January 2753 AUC

The Hand of Mars reached down one day
To choose a tribe to call His own
By seven hills, in rustic huts
Amidst their herds, they made their lives

A Latin folk both proud and strong
Quirinus inspired them
To scale the mounts and build thereon
This small, rude start, grew into more

A foreign folk, became their kings
All things went well for long and long
More gods were met, rites learned, shrines built
More ways came in a dark seed fell

And bitter grew their hearts to them
Farmers, herdsmen, craftsmen took sword
This people fought, threw off the yoke
Of foreign king took future's reins

This hardy folk in forum spoke
They made their Law, and Orders set
By Gens and tribe by deed and word
Set hand to fate created Rome

--
=========================================
In Amicus sub Fidelis
- Piperbarbus Ullerius Venator
Civis Nova Romana et Paterfamilias

Nam risu inepto res ineptior nulla est." - Catullus, Roman Poet
{There is nothing dumber than to grin at the wrong time.}



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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Results of the last Senate vote
From:	"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Apollonius=20Cordus?=" <cordus@strategikon.org>
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:52:27 +0000 (GMT)

A. Apollonius Cordus to all citizens and peregrines,
and particularly to all Senators, greetings.

I notice from the results of the most recent meeting
of the Senate (for whose publication thanks to the
Tribunes) a statement by Senator Australicus
suggesting that the agenda was not discussed prior to
voting (if I've understood it correctly). Also, it
seems from the comments of some Senators about the
proposed minimum tax threshold that there was
confusion over whether this proposal meant to set a
minimum or a maximum tax rate - a question which would
presumably have been cleared up swiftly in debate had
there been a debate. I'm also reminded of the report
from the meeting before, in which there was similar
uncertainty over whether the proposal about Alburnus
Maior involved expenditure or not (though I'm aware
that there were unusual complications in that
meeting).

Before anyone familiar with my tendency to cry
'reform' gets the feeling that I'm criticizing the
efficiency of Senatorial procedure, I should make
clear that this isn't my intention. What I'm hoping is
that someone will be so kind as to explain, for the
benefit of myself and others, what the usual procedure
for meetings of the Senate is, and whether there is
usually expected to be any debate about an agenda
before voting begins.

I feel it might benefit the general public to have an
idea of how our Senate works, so that we don't
continue to imagine a group of toga'd elders sitting
in a round building declaiming to one another before
leaping to their feet to vote by division...

Thanks,

Cordus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Archaeology at Trajan's city + frontier war monument (fwd)
From:	Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia <arnamentia_aurelia@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:23:01 -0800 (PST)

This was forwarded to me from LegioII Augusta in
Portland, Oregon. I am sure it is of interest to many
of you:

> I noticed that you command a Roman legion. I am a
> professor and
> archaeologist at San Francisco State University and
> I supervise
> excavations at the site of Tropaeum Traiani
> ("Trajan's Trophy") which
> includes the massive Roman war memorial and the
> frontier city founded and
> settled by the veterans of Trajan's first war
> against the Dacians (101-102
> AD). This archaeological complex is located in SE
> Romania between the
> Danube and the Black Sea. I have pasted below some
> information about the
> site and about myself. This message is to inform
> people who are
> interested in Roman history of opportunities to
> volunteer at our
> archaeological excavations this July. If
> appropriate, could you let
> members of your legion know about this opportunity
> (no experience
> required). Our web site has more details for how to
> apply and
> participate: www.terraeuropaea.org [go to section
> "Excavations"
> and click under "Roman city"]. Thank you for
> reading this message!
>
> Prof. Linda Ellis, San Francisco State University
>
> ****************************************************
>
> Archaeological excavations invite volunteers
> interested in Roman military
> history:
>
> Joint U.S.-Romanian archaeological research at Roman
> city of Tropaeum
> Traiani (Adamclisi)
>
> Dates: 16-31 July 2003
>
> For complete information and application see our web
> site:
> www.terraeuropaea.org
>
> Tropaeum Traiani is a Roman city near the Black Sea,
> SE Romania, dating to
> the 2nd-6th centuries AD. Near the city is an
> immense military war
> monument, built by Roman veterans of the first war
> against the Dacians
> (101-102 AD) and an on-site museum which houses
> original sculpture from the
> monument. There are on-going excavations in the
> city center. In addition,
> we will be conducting surveys of the surrounding
> territory to record
> archaeological sites in the vicinity of the city.
> More information on the
> military history of this site is pasted below.
>
> Contact: Prof. Linda Ellis, San Francisco State
> University, ELLISL@SFSU.EDU
> (short biography is below)
>
> Excursions are planned for participants to museums
> and all three ancient
> Greco-Roman cities on Romania's Black Sea coast:
> Histria, Tomis, and
> Callatis, as well as a boat excursion through the
> Danube Delta.
>
> Excavations are sponsored by Terra Europaea, a
> registered, non-profit
> organization supporting archaeological excavations,
> a book donation program
> for rural schools, summer employment for local
> youth, and a field school
> for university students.
> --------------------------
>
> Short Biography: L. Ellis
>
> I am a Full Professor at San Francisco State
> University and have taught
> courses on Roman colonization and archaeology. My
> academic areas of
> interest are archaeology in Eastern Europe and the
> Balkans, Roman
> colonialism and commerce, and Roman military
> interactions with non-Roman
> ethnic groups. I have been conducting
> archaeological research in Romania
> continuously since 1979. Together with Dr.
> Alexandru Barnea of the
> University of Bucharest, we have a surveying program
> surrounding the Roman
> city of Tropaeum Traiani (2nd-6th centuries) in SE
> Romania.
> --------------------------
>
> Tropaeum Traiani (Adamclisi)
> A brief military history of the city and monument
>
> See web site [www.terraeuropaea.org] for photographs
> of the city and
> monument described below.
>
> Location
>
> Tropaeum Traiani is located near the modern-day
> village of Adamclisi in SE
> Romania, between the Danube River and the Black Sea
> coastline. This
> archaeological complex comprises a Roman city, a
> military monument, and
> on-site museum. This monument, 'tropaeum' was built
> by the Romans in order
> to commemorate the victories against the Dacians in
> the first Romano-Dacian
> war of AD 101-102. The on-site museum for Tropaeum
> Traiani, established in
> 1977, houses the original sculptures, metopes
> (rectangular limestone slabs
> with carved figurative scenes) and other
> architectural elements from the
> monument, as well as archaeological finds from the
> city and surrounding
> area. The city of Tropaeum Traiani itself was
> settled by war veterans and
> other colonists and was occupied from the 2nd to the
> 6th centuries AD. The
> war memorial 'tropaeum' dominates the surrounding
> countryside and can be
> clearly seen from the Roman city.
>
> Brief Background on Roman Military History
>
> During the winter of 101-102, the Roman legions were
> stationed in army
> camps in SW Romania just north of the Danube River,
> in one of several
> attempts by the Roman empire to curb the growing
> power base and military
> threat from the Dacians. The Dacian leader,
> Decebal, created a coalition
> of surrounding non-Dacian tribes (Sarmatian and
> Germanic tribes) in the
> northeast and northwest together with the Dacians
> against the Roman
> legions. The strategic plan was to start from the
> north (today Moldavia),
> move south through Dobrudja, down to the Balkan
> Mountains (today central
> Bulgaria), and move west to create a swift attack
> behind the Roman front.
> Coming from behind would cut off the Romans from
> their supply lines south
> of the Danube and it would also create the element
> of surprise during a
> period when the Danube was still frozen over and
> negotiable by foot
> soldiers. Unfortunately for Decebal and his
> coalition, that winter was
> milder than normal and the ice layer over the Danube
> was very thin. With
> superior military intuition, the Roman emperor
> Trajan crossed the river
> with some of his forces, moved southeast, and
> engaged the Dacian coalition
> in an exceptionally vicious battle at Nicopolis ad
> Istrum (central
> Bulgaria), where later he would build his 'city of
> victory'. Afterwards,
> the Roman legions, auxiliary troops (military units
> of non-Roman citizens),
> and the praetorian guards (who always accompanied
> the emperor) marched
> farther ENE to where more Dacian-Sarmatian-German
> coalition forces were
> concentrated. The armies met on the plateau of
> Adamclisi to fight perhaps
> one of most bloody battles in the history of the
> empire and was decisive
> for eventual Roman control over Dacian territory.
> The battle of Adamclisi
> was personally commanded by Emperor Trajan himself,
> and the human loss was
> so great that the emperor decided to create a
> triumphal monument
> ('tropaeum') in honor of his victory, a mausoleum
> for the incinerated
> remains of the Roman officer corps, and an altar on
> the walls of which the
> names of more than 3,800 soldiers were carved in
> stone.
>
> The Roman War Monument
>
> The triumphal monument was dedicated to Mars Ultor
> (Mars the Avenger, the
> god of war) and was erected between AD 106 and 109
> during the reign of
> Trajan following the two Dacian wars (101-102 and
> 105-106), as attested by
> inscriptions. In its original form, the base of the
> triumphal monument was
> constructed as a huge cylindrical, drum-shaped
> structure, above which was a
> conical roof made of stone slates laid down like
> overlapping scales. On
> top of the conical roof were two hexagonal bases,
> one on top of the other,
> which supported a large triumphal statue, or
> 'tropaeum', a symbol of Roman
> military victory. The stone was quarried at a 3 km
> distance from the
> monument.
>
> At the base of the monument are nine rows of stairs.
> Above the stairs, the
> massive cylindrical drum was constructed and faced
> with six rows of
> undecorated stone slabs divided vertically by a row
> of sculptured scenes
> ('metopes'). The metopes, which measure 1.58 m high
> and 1.16 m wide,
> depict scenes from the Roman military campaigns
> fought by Trajan against
> the Dacians and their allies. Some metopes show the
> Roman military:
> cavalry in full armor, fights between Romans and
> Dacians, enchained
> prisoners flanked by Roman soldiers; officers,
> dignitaries, horn players,
> and standard-bearers; the emperor himself; as well
> as a good number of
> battle scenes. Other metopes show rustic scenes
> such as flocks of sheep or
> Dacian families. The sculptural style of the
> scenes is not sophisticated
> and indicates possibly local workmanship. Of the
> total of 54 metopes, 49
> survive (and are housed in the on-site museum), 3
> were never found, one
> metope was lost after 1896, and another metope was
> taken to the
> Archaeological Museum in Istanbul in the mid-19th
> century.
>
> On the entire upper circumference of the cylindrical
> drum is a series of 27
> vertical rectangular blocks (1.56 m high, 1.8 m
> wide) on which are carved
> human figures who are obviously prisoners-of-war
> with hands tied behind
> their backs. Based on studies of their costumes and
> armaments, and
> comparing them to the frieze on Trajan's Column in
> Rome, these figures
> represent Dacian, Sarmatian, and Germanic captives
> in the war against the
> Romans.
>
> Above the main drum is the conical roof covered with
> more than 1,000 pieces
> of stone slate. This roof support two hexagonal
> bases above which was a
> large triumphal statue in Roman armor and sculptures
> of war captives seated
> or standing in submission). There are also two
> plaques with identical
> Latin inscriptions, the original fragments of which
> are preserved in the
> on-site museum and have been reconstructed and
> translated as follows:
>
> To Mars, the god of war, Caesar the emperor, son of
> divine Nerva, Nerva
> Trajan, Augustus, who defeated the Germans, the
> Dacians, great priest, for
> the 13th time tribune of the plebeians, proclaimed
> emperor by the army for
> the 6th time, elected consul for the 5th time,
> father of our homeland,
> after defeating the Dacian and the Sarmatian armies.
>
> Today, one sees a reconstruction of the monument on
> the original stepped
> foundation. The reconstructed monument is based on
> careful mathematical,
> engineering, and architectural studies based on
> archaeological excavations,
> the geometry of the surviving materials, and known
> triumphal architecture
> and building technology throughout the Roman world.
> All decorative
> stonework was molded as exact duplicates from the
> original surviving
> elements. The reconstructed stone monument is
> mounted around a metal frame
> and conservators can enter inside the monument for
> any preservation work
> when needed. All original sculptural elements and
> statues can be seen in
> the on-site museum.
>
> The City of Tropaeum Traiani
>
> The Roman city of Tropaeum Traiani is located 600 m
> from the modern village
> of Adamclisi and 1,500 m from the triumphal
> monument, on a plateau. The
> city has been investigated by Romanian
> archaeologists since 1891 and
> excavations continue today. The ruins cover an area
> of more than 100
> hectares. The city was occupied for five centuries,
> eventually abandoned
> as a result of migrations of Slavs into the Balkan
> Peninsula. The Roman
> city was established in the year 109 and was quickly
> settled by army
> veterans, merchants, craftsmen, and landowners. By
> 116, the Roman
> community was consolidated. The city was located in
> a highly advantageous
> geographic position which facilitated its rapid
> development. Inscriptions
> during the reign of Marcus Aurelius indicate that
> the city had the legal
> rank of 'municipium' and was lead by a senate as
> well as by numerous
> magistrates, as well as a number of priests of the
> official cult.
>
> In 170, Tropaeum Traiani was attacked from the north
> by the Costoboci,
> after which the city continued to develop. Public
> and private buildings,
> paved streets, sewage systems, aqueducts, water
> supply tank, and temples
> were constructed. Economic growth through trade and
> exploitation of local
> resources ensued, especially agricultural
> development and an increase in
> the number of wealthy farming estates (villae
> rusticae).
>
> The city was attacked again in the latter half of
> the 3rd century by the
> Carpi (a Dacian tribe in Moldavia) in alliance with
> the Goths. Much of the
> city was destroyed. At the beginning of the 4th
> century, under the
> co-emperors Constantine the Great and Licinius,
> Tropaeum Traiani was
> rebuilt, as indicated by a commemorative inscription
> dating to 316 at the
> east gate of the city.
>
> After the economic growth during the 4th century,
> Tropaeum Traiani would
> face both economic and cultural decline, as did the
> surrounding region, due
> to both poor fiscal conditions and repeated attacks
> by the Huns. But at
> the end of the 5th century and continuing into the
> latter half of the 6th
> century (during the reigns of emperors Anastasius
> and Justinian), the city
> began to flourish again becoming an important civil
> and religious center.
> This development is quite apparent through the
> construction of both public
> and religious buildings. Tropaeum Traiani became a
> bishopric in the early
> centuries of Christianity; archaeological
> excavations have revealed five
> basilicas within the city walls.
>
> The invasions of the Avars and Slavs in 586
> seriously affected the city.
> Archaeologists have found a layer of major burning.
> However, some modest
> occupation did continue on the ruins of the burnt
> city into the 7th
> century, during which time the city was completely
> abandoned.
>
> More archaeological and historical information is
> available by request.
>
>
>
>


=====
Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia
Accensa Ordinaria Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.gensmoravia.org

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Results of the last Senate vote
From:	labienus@novaroma.org
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:57:42 US/Central

Salvete Aule Apolloni omnesque

> I notice from the results of the most recent meeting
> of the Senate (for whose publication thanks to the
> Tribunes) a statement by Senator Australicus
> suggesting that the agenda was not discussed prior to
> voting (if I've understood it correctly).

I expect that the lack of debate this time was due to a lack of controversial
items on the agenda. For the most part, we voted to prorogue governors who
have performed their jobs well. Beyond that, the only controversial item that
hadn't been discussed during the last meeting was the issue of setting a tax
floor. I had informally talked the issue over with some Senators who disagreed
with the idea off the Senate list beforehand, and I expect that they didn't see
a real need to rehash that discussion. Also, I expect that most Senatores saw
my defense of the item to you on this list and therefore didn't feel a need to
quiz me about it.

> Also, it
> seems from the comments of some Senators about the
> proposed minimum tax threshold that there was
> confusion over whether this proposal meant to set a
> minimum or a maximum tax rate - a question which would
> presumably have been cleared up swiftly in debate had
> there been a debate.

Yes. As soon as I noticed the apparent misunderstanding, I did my best to make
the item's intent clear.

> What I'm hoping is
> that someone will be so kind as to explain, for the
> benefit of myself and others, what the usual procedure
> for meetings of the Senate is, and whether there is
> usually expected to be any debate about an agenda
> before voting begins.

A consul, praetor, or tribunus plebis may call the Senate to order by providing
at least 24 hours' notice. It's not necessary for this notice to include the
agenda, but so far this courtesy has been given.

Then, the highest ranking magistrate with imperium present actually convenes
the Senate at the prescribed date and time, and presents the items to be voted
on. This magistrate has the option of deferring to a lesser magistrate if he
or she so chooses. Therefore, a praetor or tribunus plebis may only set the
Senate's agenda with the cooperation of the consules if they are present.

After this, Senatores are given at least 96 hours (4 full days) in which to
debate any item on the agenda. At the end of that period, the presiding
magistrate calls for a division, and each Senator has 48 hours in which to vote.

Those are the rules for electronic meetings. Face-to-face meetings, which have
yet to occur to my knowledge, have different rules for timing and when
Senatores may speak. The senatusconsultum setting the rules of order for the
Senate is located at http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/99073001.html .

> I feel it might benefit the general public to have an
> idea of how our Senate works, so that we don't
> continue to imagine a group of toga'd elders sitting
> in a round building declaiming to one another before
> leaping to their feet to vote by division...

As nice as it would be to actually hold our meetings in a real building while
wearing our togae praetextae, this is currently just a dream. Someday, though,
I hope to be able to declaim, at least in its definition of "to make a formal
speech", in person before my fellow Senatores.

I expect, though, that you meant declaim in its more pejorative sense. For the
most part, we frankly state our opinions and defend them as best we can.
Sometimes, we even change our minds on an issue when other people make more
sense than we do.

Vale
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Edictum: Besteuerung (Deutsche Übersetzung - German Translation)
From:	TiAnO <tiberius_ann@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:28:39 -0800 (PST)

Salvete amici,
Hier die Übersetzung eines Ediktes, welches die Steuern für dieses Jahr festlegt:
T Labienus Fortunatus Consul Quiritibus SPD

Gemäss dem Senatus Consultum vom November des letzten Jahres, setze ich hiermit die Steuersätze für das Jahr MMDCCLVI gemäss der Tabelle am Ende dieses Ediktes, fest.

Ich ersuche ebenfalls jeden Provinzgouverneur darum, dieses Edikt in seine provinzielle Liste zu kopieren, und jeden der offiziellen Übersetzer von Nova Roma, es in diejenige Sprache zu übersetzen, für welche er zuständig ist.

Bürger welche ihre Steuern in US Dollars bezahlen, können einen Check oder einen Zahlungsauftrag oder eine entsprechende Form der Zahlung an die folgende, offizielle Adresse von Nova Roma senden:

Nova Roma
PO Box 1897
Wells, ME 04090

Andere Bürger müssen sich einen internationalen Zahlungsauftrag in US Dollars beschaffen, damit der ganze Steuerbetrag an die oben genannte Adresse geschickt wird. Merke, dass einzelne Checks in lokaler Währung, welche direkt an die Nova Roma Adresse gesendet werden, wahrscheinlich mehr Kosten um sie einzulösen, als sie wert sind.

Hoffentlich werden einige Provinzgouverneure sich dazu entscheiden, einen zentralen Punkt in ihrer Provinz einzurichten, an welchen die Bürger ihre Steuern bezahlen können, damit die Provinz nur eine einzelne Zahlung an die Zentralkasse vornehmen muss. Bürger werden dazu angehalten, ihren Provinzialgouverneur zu kontaktieren, um herauszufinden, ob ihre Provinz das tut.

Bürger in Europa, deren Provinzialgouverneure sich entschliessen, nicht als Sammelpunkt zu agieren, können meinen Quaestor, Cn Octavius Noricus
(cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at) kontaktieren, um eine Zahlung zu arrangieren, so sie dies wollen.

Alle Bürger welche dies können, können auch über unseren PayPal Service bezahlen. Dazu gibt es einen Link auf der Nova Roma Hauptseite. Es ist das purpurne Logo welches abwechselnd "DONO DARE" und "give to Nova Roma via PayPal" anzeigt, direkt unter dem Hauptmenu.

Alle Bürger sollten sich vergewissern, dass die kompletten römischen Namen aller Bürger nennen, für welche sie die Steuern bezahlen! PayPal stellt dazu ein Kommentarfeld zur Verfügung, in welchem man die Namen angeben kann. Das stellt sicher, dass jeder Bürger, für welchen Steuern bezahlt wurden, auch richtigerweise als Assiduus eingeschrieben wird.

Fragen können an mich selbst (labienus@novaroma.org) oder meinen Quaestor Cn Octavius (cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at) gerichtet werden. Wenn Sie die Frage an die Hauptliste richten, senden Sie diese bitte Cc auch an meine Adresse, um sicher zu gehen, dass ich die Frage sehe.

Die Zahlungsfrist ist der letzte Tag des April. Steuern können auch später noch bezahlt werden, allerdings mit einer zusätzlichen Strafzahlung von 50%. Ein Beispiel: Ein Bürger der $12 bezahlen sollte, muss nach der Frist $18 bezahlen.

In der folgenden Tabelle sind alle Länder in existierenden Provinzen aufgelistet, zuerst in der Reihenfolge der Provinzen, danach alphabetisch nach Land ohne Provinzen.

Steuerbetrag

Land Provinz Lokale Währung

Umrechnung in US $

USA America Austrocc. 12.00 USD 12.00
USA America Austror. 12.00 USD 12.00
USA America Boreocc. 12.00 USD 12.00
USA America Mediocc. Sup. 12.00 USD 12.00
Argentinien Argentina 12.00 ARS 3.81
Israel Asia Occidentalis 35.00 ILS 7.28
Türkei Asia Occidentalis 3700000.00 TRL 2.31
Japan Asia Orientalis 1100.00 JPY 9.31
Korea Asia Orientalis 7060.00 KRW 5.95
Malaysia Asia Orientalis 11.00 MYR 2.90
Philippinen Asia Orientalis 72.00 PHP 1.32
Singapur Asia Orientalis 14.00 SGD 8.05
Australien Australia 14.00 AUD 8.48
Tschech. Rep. Bohemia 140.00 CZK 4.75
Brasilien Brasilia 9.00 BRL 2.51
Grossbritannien Britannia 5.00 GBP 7.87
USA California 12.00 USD 12.00
Kanada Canada Occidentalis 14.00 CAD 9.44
Kanada Canada Orientalis 14.00 CAD 9.44
Belgien Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
Frankreich Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
Niederlande Gallia 8.00 EUR 8.62
Österreich Germania 8.50 EUR 9.16
Deutschland Germania 8.50 EUR 9.16
Schweiz Germania 12.50 CHF 9.22
Spanien Hispania 6.00 EUR 6.46
Italien Italia 7.50 EUR 8.08
USA Lacus Magni 12.00 USD 12.00
Portugal Lusitania 5.50 EUR 5.93
United States Mediatlantica 12.00 USD 12.00
Mexiko Mexico 35.00 MXN 3.17
USA Nova Britannia 12.00 USD 12.00
Ungarn Pannonia 920.00 HUF 4.08
Slowakei Pannonia 150.00 SKK 3.87
Russland Sarmatia 90.00 RUR 2.85
Ukraine Sarmatia 7.50 UAH 1.41
Dänemark Thule 65.00 DKK 9.43
Finland Thule 8.00 EUR 8.62
Island Thule 630.00 ISK 8.12
Norwegen Thule 70.00 NOK 9.77
Schweden Thule 70.00 SEK 8.26
Polen Venedia 12.00 PLN 3.07


Albanien 180.00 ALL 1.40
Andorra 6.00 EUR 6.46
Armenien 630.00 AMD 1.17
Bosnien-Herzegowina 1.00 BAM 0.55
Bulgarien 4.00 BGL 2.21
Chile 2500.00 CLP 3.32
China 14.00 CNY 1.69
Columbien 4800.00 COP 1.62
Costa Rica 970.00 CRC 2.52
Kroatien 23.50 HRK 3.32
Griechenland 5.50 EUR 5.92
Honduras 14.00 HNL 0.82
Irland 8.50 EUR 9.16
Mazedonien 95.00 MKD 1.70
Marokko 15.00 MAD 1.51
Neu Seeland 12.00 NZD 6.70
Nicaragua 11.50 NIO 0.78
Nigeria 32.00 NGN 0.25
Rumänien 75000.00 ROL 2.27
Süd Afrika 27.00 ZAR 3.32
Uruguay 44.00 UYU 1.56
Venezuela 3900.00 VEB 2.44
Vietnam 10798.20 VND 0.70
Jugoslawien 50.00 YUM 0.87

Valete, TiAnO



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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Online Gladiator Game
From:	Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net>
Date:	Mon, 03 Mar 2003 15:35:41 -0500

Salvete,

A friend who knows I'm "interested in Roman stuff" forwarded this
link to me. I don't have the time to check it out myself, but thought
some of the gamers reading the main list might want to look at it.

No endorsement implied by this.

http://www.savagearena.net/

Valete,

-- Marinus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Oath as Propraetor
From:	"Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@cesmail.net>" <gawne@cesmail.net>
Date:	Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:02:20 -0000

Gaius Popillius Laenas writes:

> I, Gaius Popillius Laenas (John Keith Sterne) do hereby solemnly
> swear to uphold the honor of Nova Roma, [...]

Congratulations! Welcome to the ranks of provincial governors.
I think you're already active in the Provincial mailing list, from
being a Legate, so you've got some idea what to expect.

I wish you all the best on behalf of your neighbors to the north
in Mediatlantica. You do, indeed, step into the footsteps of a
remarkable man. But I think you're up to the challenge.

-- Marinus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Making new citizens welcome
From:	"Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@cesmail.net>" <gawne@cesmail.net>
Date:	Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:12:36 -0000

Gaius Basilicatus Agricola writes:

> I believe wholeheartedly in welcoming new members. I also believe
that part
> of getting new members involved is to be interested in them. My new
personal
> policy is to identify those people that are new, especially when
they
> announce their citizenship, and send them a quick note asking them
about
> themselves, why they joined Nova Roma, what they find interesting
about
> Rome, etc. [...]

An excellent policy, and one I commend you for Agricola. I've
found it makes a good impression more often than not to welcome
new citizens.

Thank you for adopting it.

-- Marinus


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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Absence
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:47:53 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Sicinius Drusus"
<lsicinius@y...> wrote:
> Salve,
>
> Tomorrow afternoon I will be having surgery on my
> knee. It will be handled on an outpatient basis, but I
> don't expect I'll be very mobile the following day, so
> I will be absent from about 11 AM EST Tuesday March 3
> until Thursday March 5th.
>
> L. Sicinius Drusus
> Senator


Salve,

Wish you all the best with the surgery and a very speedy recovery.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus


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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Invalid voter codes
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus <richmal@attbi.com>" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:50:19 -0000

Salve,

The citizen(s) with the following voter tracking codes
has a malformed or inaccurate voter code:

# 850, 869, 882, and 883

Please remember to enter your code exactly as it is
given, and if you are unsure of your new code, follow
the instructions posted previously to obtain your
current voter code by e-mail:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/5339

Or you may write the censors: censors @ novaroma.org


Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Results of the last Senate vote
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:27:02 EST

In a message dated 3/3/03 10:53:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,
cordus@strategikon.org writes:


> so that we don't
> continue to imagine a group of toga'd elders sitting
> in a round building declaiming to one another before
> leaping to their feet to vote by division...
>

Why that's it exactly...:-)

Q. Fabius Maximus.


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