Forum Romanum


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] JOIN VENETA LUDI MEGALENSES ARE APPROACHING
From:	"Daniel O. Villanueva" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar>
Date:	Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:59:23 -0300

Salvete omnes.
Join Factio Veneta. We must be the champions this year!!!. So be with us!!. The powerfull praesina and russata will be overcame by us!!!.
Join us at : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/factioveneta or go to the website of Factio Veneta. And then comes the inscription at : Piteas@telefonica.net .

You must send:

1.Your Roman name
2. Names of your driver and chariot.
3. Factio VENETA
4. Tactics number for quarters and semi-finals.
5. Tactics number for the final.

The possible tactics are:

1) To hurry in the last laps
2) To pass the curves closely the "spina" of the circus
3) To support a constant pace
4) To lash the rivals
5) To push the rivals to the wall of the circus
6) To hurry in the straight lines

6. Dirty actions against a rival Factio (If you want)

For more information read the rules in
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/romani/chariotraces.htm

Vivat Factionem Venetam!!!!!
Bene valete
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Dominus Factionis Veneta

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Wasn't ancient Roman music actually Eastern in tone and mood?
From:	"biojournalism" <biojournalism@hotmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 02:04:38 -0000

I've heard that ancient Roman music was similar to contemporary
classical Lebanese music using the oud, kanoun, Greek bizoukee
prototype, drumbeka, a goat-skin drum, an Irish whistle in E-flat
(imported from the Levant), a Nye, a Greek-style and Phoenecian
style double barreled flute played nasally, a Pan-flute, and an 86-
stringed kanoun (like a Zither) set in eighth and quarter tones.
This music instrument accompanied the Isis and Bastet cult that
entered Rome around 100 CE.

Is this correct--any ethnomusicologists or music historians out
there? Or are we speaking of what must have sounded like medieval
chanting similar to Gregorian chants in Latin? How receptive was
Rome to music from the east? I was under the impression that after
Mithradates, Rome brought back music from the East along with the
slave musicians from Parthia, Greece, Carthage, Syria, and Bithnia.

So isn't Roman music a compilation of all the Eastern cultures plus
all the colonies and provinces of Rome as about 100 CE? Just
curious. Or is modern Eastern music solely a product of medieval
Arab conquest of nearly the entire Med plus a bit of Celtic music?

Octavia


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Group for discussion of honors crimes in ancient & modern cultures
From:	"biojournalism" <biojournalism@hotmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 02:09:48 -0000

Discussion group on honor crimes in a variety of cultures both
ancient and contemporary.

Honor crimes Definition:
"Honor crime": crime committed by a man towards a female first
degree relative in the name of honor, for reasons of a
request or relationship by the woman, which is considered as
contrary to the society's tradition--usually in a society where
women are considered property of the family much as slaves were
property of slave owners.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Tax collection for Provincia Britannia
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Decimus=20Iunius=20Silanus?= <danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:07:03 +0000 (GMT)

Salvete citizens of Britannia,

The tax collection period is once again upon us. As
the incumbent propraetor for Provincia Britannia, I
can confirm that I am willing to act as a collection
point for citizens who wish to pay their taxes
locally.

Taxes received by me must reach the central treasury
by 30th April 2003 (2756 AUC) so I must be in receipt
of any payment by 18th April 2003 (2756 AUC).

A consular edictum has set tax rates for this province
at £5 (local currency). I join others in encouraging
all British citizens to pay a rate equivalent to last
years $12, so an actual payment of £8 is recommended
but not necessary. Any payment below £5 will not be
accepted.

All citizens of Britannia who wish to pay their taxes
by this method will send a cheque for the appropriate
amount to a specified postal address. Those wishing to
do so are advised to contact me privately at
danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk.

Valete

Decimus Iunius Silanus
Propraetor Britanniae.

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] A bit of help: TYPICALLY ROMAN DESIGNS
From:	URCITANUS <urcitanus@terra.es>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:53:01 +0100

They also tattooed themselves. Tottoing was also known by some celtic
tribes.

A.adrianus urcitanus

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Asunto: Re: [Nova-Roma] A bit of help: TYPICALLY ROMAN DESIGNS

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> Picti means painted. I always thought that this meant that they
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] E-mail adress
From:	URCITANUS <urcitanus@terra.es>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:56:08 +0100

salve!

What the....????
Are you trying?....Are you just trying to suggest that those marvellous
products to enlarge my pennis won´t do?
Damn! I´ve just ordered hundreds!
LOL

vale
A. adrianus urcitanus

----- Mensaje Original -----
De: "L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com>
Fecha: Domingo, Marzo 16, 2003 10:16 pm
Asunto: Re: [Nova-Roma] E-mail adress

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> --- Diana Moravia Aventina <diana@pandora.be> wrote:
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> > Salve Solaris,
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> > >The account has become overloaded with spam (I
>
> > receive about 20 spam mails
>
> > per day, ranging < for commercials for steak knives
>
> > to offers for lousy
>
> > products to increase my potency) and I can't send
>
> > mail with it anymore, only
>
> > receive.
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> >
>
> > LOL!! I *only* recieve sexual spam, which is it
>
> > always good for a laugh
>
> > because they think I am a man. Besides the products
>
> > to extend my penis and
>
> > increase its endurance and vascularity, today I also
>
> > received an advert for
>
> > a cream which guarantess to satisfy my woman
>
> > instantly.... It was really
>
> > funny, especially with the included video of an
>
> > American porn star
>
> > explaining his succes with the product :-)
>
> >
>
> > Vale! and let me know if you see any good deals on
>
> > steak knives :-)
>
> > Diana
>
> >
>
> That's nothing!
>
> Today I got two posts from the same Spammer, one to
>
> increase my Penis size, and one to increase the size
>
> of my Breasts!
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> He must think I'm a Transexual. ;o)
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] E-mail adress
From:	Caius Minucius Scaevola <ben@callahans.org>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:05:47 -0500

Ave -

This was quite amusing, since all these "keywords" tripped off my spam
filter and your email ended up in the spambucket. SpamAssassin is a
nicely zealous watchdog and tells you all about why it tagged the mail
as spam...

> SPAM: -------------------- Start SpamAssassin results ----------------------
> SPAM: This mail is probably spam. The original message has been altered
> SPAM: so you can recognise or block similar unwanted mail in future.
> SPAM: See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.
> SPAM:
> SPAM: Content analysis details: (5.60 hits, 5 required)
> SPAM: FROM_EGROUPS (-0.5 points) Appears to be from yahoo groups
> SPAM: NO_REAL_NAME (1.3 points) From: does not include a real name
> SPAM: GROUPS_YAHOO_1 (-0.5 points) BODY: Yahoo! Groups message
> SPAM: LESBIAN (2.5 points) BODY: Possible porn - Lesbian Site
> SPAM: PENIS_ENLARGE (0.9 points) BODY: Information on getting a larger penis or breasts
> SPAM: TO_BE_REMOVED_REPLY (0.4 points) BODY: Says: "to be removed, reply via email" or similar
> SPAM: HOT_NASTY (0.4 points) BODY: Possible porn - Hot, Nasty, Wild, Young
> SPAM: SPAM_PHRASE_03_05 (1.1 points) BODY: Spam phrases score is 03 to 05 (medium)
> SPAM: [score: 4]
> SPAM: SUPERLONG_LINE (0.0 points) BODY: Contains a line >=199 characters long
> SPAM:
> SPAM: -------------------- End of SpamAssassin results ---------------------
>
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 10:49:27PM +0000, me-in-@disguise.co.uk wrote:
> >From : Caius Minucius Scaevola <ben@callahans.org>
> >
> >[ from the spam ]
> >=93Would YOU like a larger penis?=93
> >
> >[ her response ]
> >Oh, *YESSSS!!!*
> >
> Be careful it isn't a double-blind containing a virus disguised as porno s=
> pam. Reminds me of my boss laughing to find a "Hot Lesbian Action" spam all=
> over her laptop that "They must have realised I'm a dyke".

<grin> Thanks for the reminder, but I use Linux; viruses aren't a
concern. I actually find a number of them rather funny:

"Dear [sic] freind:

This is Micr0s0ft Security. To prevent Klez worm, just run this attached
program. Some antivirus software might say ``It's virus!'', but you just
click ``Continue'' and it is OK."

Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
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Nihil tam munitum quod non expugnari pecunia possit.
No fort is so strong that it cannot be taken with money.
-- Cicero, "In Verrem"


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Test
From:	Gnaeus Octavius Noricus <cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:05:13 +0100

Just testing, I've switched to an alternative mail program (hopefully
no more virus petri dish), hope it works ;-)

P.S: If somebody has sent me a mail within the last hour, it has
probably vanished into the cyber-nirvana.

--
Optime vale!

Gnaeus Octavius Noricus
cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at
17.03.2003 17:02:15


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Test
From:	Caius Minucius Scaevola <ben@callahans.org>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:33:52 -0500

Salve -

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 05:05:13PM +0100, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus wrote:
>
> Just testing, I've switched to an alternative mail program (hopefully
> no more virus petri dish), hope it works ;-)

Good move! If PocoMail doesn't work out for you, try Pegasus Mail. It's
(IMO) one of the few pieces of Wind0ws software that's written with good
security in mind, works well, and doesn't do anything stupid with
attachments, viruses, "Web bugs", etc. Plus, it's free (in the "free
beer" sense. :)

Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
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Impossibilium nulla obligatio est.
Nobody has any obligation to do the impossible.
-- Corpus Iuris Civilis: Digesta


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] After the ides of march
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucius=20Arminius=20Faustus?= <lafaustus@yahoo.com.br>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:00:09 -0300 (ART)

But his great prosperity and good fortune that favoured him all his lifetime, did continue afterwards in the revenge of his death, pursuing the murtherers both by sea and land, till they had not left a man more to be executed, of all them that were actors or counsellers in the conspiracy of his death.

FROM PLUTARCH, LIFE OF IULIUS CAESAR

LXVII. When Caesar was slain, the Senate (though Brutus stood in the middest amongst them, as though he would have said something touching this fact presently ran out of the house, and flying, filled all the city with marvellous fear and tumult. Insomuch as some did shut to the doors, others forsook their shops and warehouses, and others ran to the place to see what the matter was: and others also that had seen it ran home to their houses again. But Antonius and Lepidus, which were two of Caesar's chiefest friends, secretly conveying themselves away, fled into other men's houses and forsook their own. Brutus and his confederates on the other side, being yet hot with this murther they had committed, having their swords drawn in their hands, came all in a troup together out of the Senate and went into the market-place, not as men that made countenance to fly, but otherwise boldly holding up their heads like men of courage, and called to the people to defend their liberty, and stayed to speak with every great personage whom they met in their way. Of them, some followed this troup and went amongst them, as if they had been of the conspiracy, and falsely challenged part of the honour with them: amongst them was Caius Octavius and Lentulus Spinther. But both of them were afterwards put to death for their vain covetousness of honour, by Antonius and Octavius Caesar the younger; and yet had no

[p. 102] part of that honour for the which they were both put to death, neither did any man believe that they were any of the confederates or of counsel with them. For they that did put them to death took revenge rather of the will they had to offend than of any fact they had committed. The next morning, Brutus and his confederates came into the market-place to speak unto the people, who gave them such audience, that it seemed they neither greatly reproved nor allowed the fact : for by their great silence they shewed that they were sorry for Caesar's death, and also that they did reverence Brutus. Now the Senate granted general pardon for all that was past; and, to pacify every man, ordained besides, that Caesar's funerals should be honoured as a god, and established all things that he had done, and gave certain provinces also and convenient honours unto Brutus and his confederates, whereby every man thought all things were brought to good peace and quietness again.

LXVIII. But when they had opened Caesar's testament , and found a liberal legacy of money bequeathed unto every citizen of Rome, and that they saw his body (which was brought into the market-place) all bemangled with gashes of swords, then there was no order to keep the multitude and common people quiet, but they plucked up forms, tables, and stools, and laid them all about the body, and setting them afire, burnt the corset Then when the fire was well kindled, they took the fire-brands, and went unto their houses that had slain Caesar, to set them afire. Others 3 also ran up and down the city to see if they could meet with any of them, to cut them in pieces: howbeit they could meet with never a man of them, because they had locked themselves up safely in their houses. There was one of Caesar's friends called Cinna, that had a marvellous strange and terrible dream the night before. He dreamed that Caesar bad 4 him to supper, and that he refused and would not go: then that Caesar took him by the hand, and led him against his will. Now Cinna, hearing at that time that they burnt Caesar's body in the market-place, notwithstanding that he feared his dream, and had an ague on him besides, he went into the market-place to honour his funerals. When he came thither, one of the mean sort 5 asked him what his name was? He was straight called by his name. The first man told it to another, and that other unto another, so that it ran straight through them all, that he was one of them that murthered Caesar: (for indeed one of the traitors to Caesar was also called Cinna as himself) wherefore taking him for Cinna

[p. 103] the murtherer , they fell upon him with such fury that they presently dispatched him in the market-place. This stir and fury made Brutus and Cassius more afraid than of all that was past, and therefore within few days after they departed out of Rome: and touching their doings afterwards, and what calamity they suffered till their deaths, we have written it at large in the life of Brutus.

LXIX. Caesar died at six and fifty years of age, and Pompey also lived not passing four years more than he. So he reaped no other fruit of all his reign and dominion, which he had so vehemently desired all his life and pursued with such extreme danger, but a vain name only and a superficial glory, that procured him the envy and hatred of his country.

But his great prosperity and good fortune that favoured him all his lifetime, did continue afterwards in the revenge of his death, pursuing the murtherers both by sea and land, till they had not left a man more to be executed, of all them that were actors or counsellers in the conspiracy of his death. Furthermore, of all the chances that happen unto men upon the earth, that which came to Cassius above all other, is most to be wondered at: for he, being overcome in battle at the journey of Philippes, slew himself with the same sword with the which he strake Caesar. Again, of signs in the element , the great comet, which seven nights together was seen very bright after Caesar's death, the eighth night after was never seen more. Also the brightness of the sun was darkened, the which all that year through rose very pale and shined not out, whereby it gave but small heat: therefore the air being very cloudy and dark, by the weakness of the heat that could not come forth, did cause the earth to bring forth but raw and unripe fruit, which rotted before it could ripe. But above all, the ghost that appeared unto Brutus shewed plainly, that the gods were offended with the murther of Caesar. The vision was thus: Brutus being ready to pass over his army from the city of Abydos to the other coast lying directly against it, slept every night (as his manner was) in his tent; and being yet awake, thinking of his affairs (for by report he was as careful a captain and lived with as little sleep as ever man did) he thought he heard a noise at his tent-door, and looking towards the light of the lamp that waxed very dim, he saw a horrible vision of a man, of a wonderful greatness and dreadful look, which at the first made him marvellously afraid. But when he saw that it did him no hurt, but stood by his bed-side and said nothing; at length he asked

[p. 104] him what he was. The image answered him: "I am thy ill angel, Brutus, and thou shalt see me by the city of Philippes." Then Brutus replied again, and said, "Well, I shall see thee then." Therewithal the spirit presently vanished from him. After that time Brutus, being in battle near unto the city of Philippes against Antonius and Octavius Caesar, at the first battle he wan the victory, and overthrowing all them that withstood him, he drave them into young Caesar's camp, which he took. The second battle being at hand, this spirit appeared again unto him, but spake never a word. Thereupon Brutus, knowing that he should die, did put himself to all hazard in battle, but yet fighting could not be slain. So seeing his men put to flight and overthrown, he ran unto a little rock not far off, and there setting his sword's point to his breast, fell upon it and slew himself; but yet, as it is reported, with the help of his friend that despatched him.

L. Arminius Faustus

Senior Plebeian Aedile, Quaestor,

Interpreter (lingua lusitaniae), Scriba propraetoris Brasiliae.

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Iliad, Homer, book XX

The answer of Hector about Achilles' speeches.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] City installs bilingual English-Latin signage
From:	"julilla" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:40:18 -0000

Salvete omnibus!

A most interesting development in Provincia Britannia:

http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?
xml=/news/2003/03/14/nlatin14.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/03/14/ixhome.html

Wallsend, near Hadrian's wall, now sports English-Latin signage in
much of its city centre.

Most satisfying!

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Spam about spammers :-) was E-mail address
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:03:18 +0100

Salve Urcitanus,

> What the....????
> Are you trying?....Are you just trying to suggest that those marvellous
> products to enlarge my pennis won´t do?
> Damn! I´ve just ordered hundreds!

LOL! Personally, I am more interested in that 'drive your woman crazy'
topical cream. I keep hoping that one of my female friend's buys it and lets
me know the results :-)

And poor Drusus: it must be very confusing ;-) The good news is that you
look 100% masculine in your Albium Gentium photo!

Vale!
Diana

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Away
From:	jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:27:26 -0500 (EST)

My Friends;

I have been away in the South these last few days to tke part in a
weekend Roman Event with the 24th Legio, and the Gladiator School. I
shall be writing an After Action Report about the Event when I have
caught up with my E-Mail (several hundred messages).

We had a very nice as well as profitable weekend, and a chance again to
meet with good friends and immers oneself in the cultur of ancent Rome,
as well as perhaps engaging in a bit of makig the public aware of
ancient Rome and Nova Roma.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!

http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Today's Doonesbury strip
From:	"julilla" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:54:55 -0000

.... this political cartoon doesn't usually intersect our circle of
news and events, but today's is pretty fun :-)

http://www.msnbc.com/comics/daily.asp?sfile=db030317

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Today's Doonesbury strip
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:46:55 -0000

Salve,

Ah, but it displays Trudeau's ignorance of the Roman Republic. Duke
calls himself "Pro-consul" rather than "Consul."

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus

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>
> http://www.msnbc.com/comics/daily.asp?sfile=db030317
>
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Wasn't ancient Roman music actually Eastern in tone and mood?
From:	me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:47:33 +0000 (GMT)

-----Original Message-----
>From : biojournalism <biojournalism@hotmail.com>
>
>So isn't Roman music a compilation of all the Eastern cultures plus
>all the colonies and provinces of Rome as about 100 CE? Just
>curious. Or is modern Eastern music solely a product of medieval
>Arab conquest of nearly the entire Med plus a bit of Celtic music?
>
Now there is a thought because I was surprised to find a few tracks of Balkan folk that could easily have been Irish without the twiddly bits. On the other hand, staying in the Balkans, Albanian music is more like a cat fighting a bagpipe on a tin roof than anything else but there's might be the most ancient. Apart from foreign ritual music, I imagine Rome would have accepted Greek music as its own from a very early period. Then there's the thought that they originated under Etruria and the Etruscans probably originated from somewhere on the southern Black Sea, maybe even with some historical basis to the Aeneas legend. So they might have brought different modes with them. It's a llittle hard to be certain of Balkan music now because they spent so long under Turkish influence but I did have a record with a few Byzantine tracks and one possible reconstruction from ancient times.

Caesariensis.

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Today's Doonesbury strip
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:56:27 +0100

Salve Amica!

Yes it was fun. ;-)

>.... this political cartoon doesn't usually intersect our circle of
>news and events, but today's is pretty fun :-)
>
>http://www.msnbc.com/comics/daily.asp?sfile=db030317
>
>---
> cura ut valeas,
>@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
> |||| www.villaivlilla.com/
>@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
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Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
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Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
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Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness


Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Spam about spammers :-) was E-mail address
From:	"jlasalle" <jlasalle@sbcglobal.net>
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:22:19 -0600

"I keep hoping that one of my female friend's buys it and lets
me know the results :-)"

When experimenting with new female products, its best to have a your friend
present. Send pictures to the address below

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this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by using
the contact information in the "reply to" field above and return the
original message to the sender. Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Diana Moravia Aventina [mailto:diana@pandora.be]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 12:03 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Spam about spammers :-) was E-mail address

Salve Urcitanus,

> What the....????
> Are you trying?....Are you just trying to suggest that those marvellous
> products to enlarge my pennis won´t do?
> Damn! I´ve just ordered hundreds!

LOL! Personally, I am more interested in that 'drive your woman crazy'
topical cream. I keep hoping that one of my female friend's buys it and
lets
me know the results :-)

And poor Drusus: it must be very confusing ;-) The good news is that you
look 100% masculine in your Albium Gentium photo!

Vale!
Diana

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] E-mail adress
From:	me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date:	Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:23:56 +0000 (GMT)

-----Original Message-----
>From : Caius Minucius Scaevola <ben@callahans.org>
>
>This was quite amusing, since all these “keywords“ tripped off my spam
>filter and your email ended up in the spambucket. SpamAssassin is a
>nicely zealous watchdog and tells you all about why it tagged the mail
>as spam...
>
That is the trouble with Spam protection. I can hardly ever get past Spamguard to forward anything to my work Pegasus so I can go over it offline. Mostly I'm used to them and it's no great problem to delete them. They usually come in particular groups susceptible to that sort of thing anyway, so I have them already half corralled.

>
><grin> Thanks for the reminder, but I use Linux; viruses aren't a
>concern. I actually find a number of them rather funny:
>
Linux: very sensible. Some people can be dimwitted enough to deserve what they get for opening obviously suspect stuff. I've seen a virus that's been caught which appears tohead itself as porno spam. Another thing that's doing the rounds recently is a virus hoax to delete a particular Windows file identified by a teddy bear. You have to think twice that if somebody is going to infiltrate a virus, they surely are not going to identify with an icon all of its own!

Caesariensis.

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