Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Assyria
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:49:12 EST

In a message dated 3/29/03 4:05:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, gfr@intcon.net
writes:


> The only addition I would
> make to Q. Fabius Maximus' list of primary literary sources for the
> Parthian campaign is the sixth-century Antiochene chronicler John
> Malalas' _Chronographia_.
>
>

I didn't include it since some of his translations are suspect.

FABIVS


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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Assyria
From:	"gfrose2000" <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 05:56:29 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus Quinto Fabio Maximo salutem dicit.

Ave, Quinte Fabii.

I quite agree that there are problems with Malalas, but the same can
be said in other respects about Photius' epitome of Arrian's
_Parthica_ (Treadgold comes to mind). I'm not certain that there is a
solution to the primary/secondary citations problem on the internet.
On the one hand, it's a very good thing to get people to read primary
sources; on the other, since most people have to read those sources in
translation, they're very vulnerable to problems masked by the
translation (or to which the translator/editor does not call
attention, and this is particularly bad on the net where translations
are chosen frequently because they are out of copyright, and therefore
likely out of date as far as the most current scholarship goes).
Similarly, readers get a great deal of background and frequently a
synthetic overview by consulting the secondary literature, but if they
don't have the appropriate background and critical apparatus to judge
how scholars use the primary sources (or to notice what professional
axes are being sharpened for use :-), they can be easily misled. In
class I tend to assign reading in the primary sources and a decent
selection from the critical literature (which is why, I suppose,
students complain about how much reading they have to do), but one
doesn't have the same sort of captive
audience and, I agree with you, a casual reference on the net to a
problematic text can sometimes be worse than unhelpful.

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus

> I didn't include it [John Malalas] since some of his translations
are suspect.
>
> FABIVS

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: MEGALESIA CHARIOT RACES (last call)
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Tiberius=20Apollonius=20Cicatrix?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:17:32 +0100 (BST)

SALVETE!

RUSSATA

Citizens, please subscribe for the chariot races!!

RUSSATA

Send in your subscription!

RUSSATA

Come and race for factio Russata!

RUSSATA

Send your subscription as asked below, and then notify
me so I can subscribe you to the Russata mailing list!

RUSSATA FOREVER!!!



> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 00:51:54 -0000
> From: "Alejandro Carneiro"
> <piteas@telefonica.net>
> Subject: MEGALESIA CHARIOT RACES (last call)
>
> Citizens!
> Nova Roma organizes chariot races during the
> Megalesia Festival
> April 4-10, 2003, in recollection of the roman
> customs of amusement
> and entertainment.
> The races on the Circus wait for yours teams.
> Prepare your whips,
> it´s time for running!
> The public waits for you chariots. If you win, you
> will receive a
> nice prize and the recognition of the members of
> your Factio and the
> whole citizenship.
> On the sand of the Circus, you can be a rabid red, a
> dangerous blue,
> a furious green or a terrifying white.
>
> Send your chariot and fight for the glory of the
> victory in the Ludi
> Megalesia!!
>
> We're now 17, but the Goddess Cybele needs 15 more
> on the sand for a
> good Ludi.
>
> Join in!
>
> The inscription ends on March 29. (Maximum 32
> players)
>
> Inscription in: salixgalaicus@hotmail.com
>
> You must send:
>
> 1.Your Roman name
> 2. Names of your driver and chariot.
> 3. Factio (russata, veneta, praesina or albata)
> 4. Tactics number for quarters and semi-finals.
> 5. Tactics number for the final.
>
> The possible tactics are:
>
> 1) To hurry in the last laps
> 2) To pass the curves closely the "spina" of the
> circus
> 3) To support a constant pace
> 4) To lash the rivals
> 5) To push the rivals to the wall of the circus
> 6) To hurry in the straight lines
>
>
> 6. Dirty actions against a rival Factio (If you
> want)
>
>
> For more information read the rules in
>
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/romani/chariotraces.htm
>
>
> Salix Galaicus
> Caput oficcinae ludorum (Scribe of the races)


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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Asterix
From:	Michel Loos <loos@qt1.iq.usp.br>
Date:	30 Mar 2003 08:27:02 -0300

On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 19:37, me-in-@disguise.co.uk wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> >
> >I have not often seen this comic strip, but what I have seen I have
> >found to be humorous, at about the same level as Blondie and Dagwood.
> >There is also the added aspect of a few tidbits of Roman information.
> >
> I remember Blondie from when I was very young but never understood it.
> I don't think I would now either because it refers to a world different
> because American and even more different because its 1950s background
> is so alien.
> Asterix seems to manage to join quite lowbrow humour with quiet sophisticated
> stuff and of course is beautifully politically incorrect since it makes a fool
> of everybody except the French (who, one must admit, can often do a far better
> job of that for themselves).

In fact, it makes also a fool of french: take a look at "The tour of
Gaul", were every single regional culture of France is laughed at.
Or "The Arvern Shield" wich shows the french rewriting history "Alesia?
I don' t know". Alesia is the final victory of J. Caesar.

> There are nice observations in "in Britain" where
> all battles stop for a cup of hot water at 4pm and one man ensures an entire
> legion in hot pursuit Keeps Off The Grass - and Belgians eat nothing but
> fried roots.
>
> Somebody familiar with the map might also know whether I am right in thinking
> that Asterix lives in what will become St. Malo?
>

At least somewhere in Northern Brittany. Could be St-Malo but the
magnifying glass does not allow to specify exactly the place.


What is strange with Asterix is the mixture of specifically dated humor
refering to nearly instantenous things like:
in "The Arvern Shield" "les gaulois sont dans la pleine" (Full pool in
the therms) refers to the great hit in the charts of that sepcific month
" Les gaulois sont dans la plaine", this hit vanished from the charts in
a few monthes. And some years later was impossible to understand.
It must be noted that the first few Goscinny/Uderzo Asterix's where
published 2pages/month in the Pilot magazine and often the double page
refers to an french event of that month. You can easily see that 2 page
unity in the final albums.
with the sort of untemporal humor you cited above.

Manius Villius Limitanus

--
Michel Loos <loos@qt1.iq.usp.br>

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] SETI@home group: Nova Roma
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 07:09:12 -0600 (CST)

Salvete Cives,

I have created a group called "Nova Roma" on the SETI@home site.

SETI@home is a distributed computing project run by the University of
California, Berkeley, in which millions of volunteers donate spare
CPU time to analyze data gathered from radio telescopes, with the
goal of finding evidencd of intelligent life. ("SETI" is "Search
for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence")

SETI@home volunteers download and install a program provided by
the university that runs continuously in the background (either
invisibly or as a screen saver) that performs calculations on
data that is automatically fetched from the SETI servers. Generally,
it takes about 10-20 hours to complete a "work unit" and return
the results of the analysis back to the server.

To promote competition, they show statistics for individiual users
on the website, and also allow the volunteers to organize into teams,
so that the teams may be ranked by the total of all the results
that members have been submitted.

If you're a current SETI user and would like to join the new
Nova Roma group, please go here:

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=team_join_form&id=164915

If you've never used SETI@home but would like to try it, you can
download it (for several operating systems including Windows, Macintosh,
Linux, and BSD) and install it in only a few minutes. After that,
your spare processing power (which is otherwise wasted) can be
put to good use.

The main page for the project is at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/.

Please join us!

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus,
Censor, Consular, Citizen.
http://konoko.net/~haase/

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Epicurean manuscripts
From:	"Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:49:00 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.

Avete, Quirites.

I have myself been long fascinated with Epicurean philosophy and have
recently learned that there are more Novaromans with whom I share that
fascination. Here is a link to the Philodemus Project which aimes at
restoring and studying the 13 of the 16 surviving manuscripts from
Pompeii and Herculaneum of the first-century B.C. Epicurean
philosopher Philodemus:

http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/humnet/classics/Philodemus/philhome.htm

The Project's Directors are David Blank (UCLA), Richard Janko
(University College, London) and Dirk Obbink (Christ Church, Oxford).
Individual texts in the series are also being edited and translated by
David Armstrong (University of Texas, Austin), Robert Gaines
(University of Maryland, College Park), James Porter (University of
Michigan), and Costantina Romeo (Sorrento). Other participants in the
Project include Daniel Delattre (C.N.R.S.) and Michael Wigodsky
(Stanford). The website has some excellent photographs of the
surviving papyri with summarizing translation.

Enjoy.

Valete, Quirites

G. Iulius Scaurus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: SETI@home group: Nova Roma
From:	"Lucius Pompeius Octavianus" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:13:02 -0000

Salve Octavi
I just joined your seti group. This way I am combining my interests
in Nova Roma and Seti@home. By the way, I am learning astronomy as
amateur .In fact it was seti@home that made me begin learning
astronomy.
Good luck for our novaroman seti group!!!. Cheers!!!
Bene vale
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
<haase@c...> wrote:
>
> Salvete Cives,
>
> I have created a group called "Nova Roma" on the SETI@home site.
>
> SETI@home is a distributed computing project run by the University
of
> California, Berkeley, in which millions of volunteers donate spare
> CPU time to analyze data gathered from radio telescopes, with the
> goal of finding evidencd of intelligent life. ("SETI" is "Search
> for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence")
>
> SETI@home volunteers download and install a program provided by
> the university that runs continuously in the background (either
> invisibly or as a screen saver) that performs calculations on
> data that is automatically fetched from the SETI servers.
Generally,
> it takes about 10-20 hours to complete a "work unit" and return
> the results of the analysis back to the server.
>
> To promote competition, they show statistics for individiual users
> on the website, and also allow the volunteers to organize into
teams,
> so that the teams may be ranked by the total of all the results
> that members have been submitted.
>
> If you're a current SETI user and would like to join the new
> Nova Roma group, please go here:
>
> http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?
cmd=team_join_form&id=164915
>
> If you've never used SETI@home but would like to try it, you can
> download it (for several operating systems including Windows,
Macintosh,
> Linux, and BSD) and install it in only a few minutes. After that,
> your spare processing power (which is otherwise wasted) can be
> put to good use.
>
> The main page for the project is at
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/.
>
> Please join us!
>
> Vale, Octavius.
>
> --
> Marcus Octavius Germanicus,
> Censor, Consular, Citizen.
> http://konoko.net/~haase/

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Latin translation
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 12:19:44 -0500

Salve is there anybody on line ,who can help me with a Latin translation?

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus


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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] SETI@home group: Nova Roma
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 09:39:46 -0800

Ave,

Earthlink used to do that but it kept ports open that could be a security risk.

With that security risk I on my home personal computer I cannot take that risk.

Thanks,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus Octavius Germanicus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 5:09 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] SETI@home group: Nova Roma



Salvete Cives,

I have created a group called "Nova Roma" on the SETI@home site.

SETI@home is a distributed computing project run by the University of
California, Berkeley, in which millions of volunteers donate spare
CPU time to analyze data gathered from radio telescopes, with the
goal of finding evidencd of intelligent life. ("SETI" is "Search
for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence")

SETI@home volunteers download and install a program provided by
the university that runs continuously in the background (either
invisibly or as a screen saver) that performs calculations on
data that is automatically fetched from the SETI servers. Generally,
it takes about 10-20 hours to complete a "work unit" and return
the results of the analysis back to the server.

To promote competition, they show statistics for individiual users
on the website, and also allow the volunteers to organize into teams,
so that the teams may be ranked by the total of all the results
that members have been submitted.

If you're a current SETI user and would like to join the new
Nova Roma group, please go here:

http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=team_join_form&id=164915

If you've never used SETI@home but would like to try it, you can
download it (for several operating systems including Windows, Macintosh,
Linux, and BSD) and install it in only a few minutes. After that,
your spare processing power (which is otherwise wasted) can be
put to good use.

The main page for the project is at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/.

Please join us!

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus,
Censor, Consular, Citizen.
http://konoko.net/~haase/

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] EDICTUM AEDILICIUM IV - LUDI MEGALESIA ANNO MMDCCLVI (2756) AUC
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Francesco=20Valenzano?= <fraelov@yahoo.it>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:04:08 +0200 (CEST)

EDICTUM IV - LUDI MEGALESIA ANNO MMDCCLVI (2756) AUC
30th March, 2003

Ex Officio Senior Curule Aedile

I. As written in the official calendar of the Nova Roman festivals, from 4th to 10 th April there will Megalesia Ludi.
These Ludi are dedicated to Magna Mater (or Cybele) imported to Rome after the 2nd Punic War. The goddess' sacred black stone was brought from Phrygia in Asia Minor and housed in a temple consecrated/opened on April 10, 191 B.C.E. The Ludi were organized by the Aediles and the priests of the Magna Mater were called the Gallae. When the Magna Mater was first introduced to Rome, aristocratic families formed sodalitates [clubs] in honor of the Cybele. A practice rapidly developed from these clubs in which patrician families held dinner parties [mutitationes] for each other on the first night of the Ludi. Over time these banquets became wildly elaborate and ostentatious.

II. I'm proud to announce, as Senior Curule Aedile, that I'll organize the first big festival of Nova Roma. They will be from 4th to 10th April 2756 but some activities are now yet open.

III. The Calendar of the Ludi is the following:
__________________________________________________________
:: 4th April ::
Opening of the Ludi [by the Senior Curule Aedile]
Religious celebrations in honor of Magna Mater

:: 5th April ::
VENATIONES [by M' Constantinus Serapio]
Munera Gladiatoria, Querter matches [by Gn. Salix Galaicus]

:: 6th April ::
ARCHEOLOGICAL DAY: report [by M. Iulius Perusianus]
Ludi Circenses, Quarter races [by Gn. Salix Galaicus]
Munera Gladiatoria, Semifinal matches [by Gn. Salix Galaicus]

:: 7th April ::
MEGALESIA CULTURAL AWARD '56 [by Gn. Equitius Marinus]
AGE OF EMPIRES, RISE OF ROME Game [by Fr. Apulus Caesar et M. Iulius Perusianus]

:: 8th April ::
MUNERA GLADIATORIA, Final match [by Gn. Salix Galaicus]
Ludi Circenses, Semifinals races [by Gn. Salix Galaicus]

:: 9th April ::
NAUMACHIAE [by L. Didius Geminus Sceptius]
:: 10th April ::
LUDI CIRCENSES, Final race [by Gn. Salix Galaicus et Fr. Apulus Caesar]
Closing of the Ludi [by the Senior Curule Aedile]
________________________________________________________

IV. You can find the rules and the time schedule of each game at http://aediles.novaroma.org/apulus/ludi/

V. From today since 10th April I'll be on-line in Yahoo Messanger every mornings for further informations. Please search "fapulus".

VI. Megalesia Ludi are organized by the Cohors Aedilis FAC in collaboration with Junior Curule Aedile Gnaeus Equitius Marinus. VII. This edictum becomes effective immediately. VIII. Given at 30th March, in the year of the consulship of Caeso Fabius Quintilianus and Titus Labienus Fortunatus, 2756 AUC. May Magna Mater and every the Gods protect the Res Publica, the World and give us the Peace everywhere!
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
Senior Curule Aedile


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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] SETI@home group: Nova Roma
From:	Caius Minucius Scaevola <ben@callahans.org>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 13:35:52 -0500

Salvete, omnes:

On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 09:39:46AM -0800, L. Cornelius Sulla wrote:
> Ave,
>
> Earthlink used to do that but it kept ports open that could be a security risk.
>
> With that security risk I on my home personal computer I cannot take that risk.

Rather than spreading FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) through making
uninformed statements, why not find out what's true instead?

The SETI@home FAQ
<http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/faq.html>

What about security?
<http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/faq.html#q1.7>

Ever since version 1.06, SETI@home has had comprehensive firewall
support, single-source downloading, and a number of other security
features built in; at this point, they're up to version 3.07 for
Wind0ws, 3.03 for Mac and Unix. As well, you seem to be lacking a basic
piece of information: if there's no *service* at a given port, there's
no chance of vulnerability. A port simply being open does not constitute
a security risk. Not that it really matters in this case: SETI@home uses
HTTP (outgoing) - the same protocol used by your browser while you surf.

You, of course, are welcome to join or not - it's purely up to you.
However, sabotaging someone else's efforts through misinformation -
efforts which benefit the entire human race, by the way - is something I
find highly ethically questionable and frightening in a person with
authority in Nova Roma.


SETI@home (The Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence)
<http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu>

Folding@home (Stanford University's protein folding project - cancer/
cystic fibrosis/emphysema/BSE/etc. research)
<http://foldingathome.stanford.edu/>

Genome@home (Genome, gene, and protein evolution research)
<http://genomeathome.stanford.edu/>

For a list of other Distributed Client projects, tools, and information
on how you can help, see the Internet-based Distributed Computing
Projects page:
<http://www.aspenleaf.com/distributed/distrib-tools.html>


Valete,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
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Tamdiu discendum est, quamdiu vivas.
We should learn as long as we may live. (We live and learn.)
-- Seneca Philosophus, "Epistulae"

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] SETI@home group: Nova Roma
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 12:55:20 -0600 (CST)

Salve Cai Minuci,

> You, of course, are welcome to join or not - it's purely up to you.
> However, sabotaging someone else's efforts through misinformation -
> efforts which benefit the entire human race, by the way - is something I
> find highly ethically questionable and frightening in a person with
> authority in Nova Roma.

I'm sure his advice was well-intended. One can never be too careful
these days, especially if running any version of Windows -- which is
about as secure as a screen door on a submarine.

Today, I've run "nmap" against all of my machines which run the SETI
client, and found nothing suspicious.

Thanks for posting the links to the FAQ answers regarding security; this
should assure everyone here that it's perfectly safe.

For those who wish to join:
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_164915.html

Vale, Octavius.

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus,
Censor, Consular, Citizen.
http://konoko.net/~haase/

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] SETI@home group: Nova Roma
From:	Caius Minucius Scaevola <ben@callahans.org>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 14:23:37 -0500

Ave, Marcus Octavius Germanicus -

On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 12:55:20PM -0600, Marcus Octavius Germanicus wrote:
> Salve Cai Minuci,
>
> > You, of course, are welcome to join or not - it's purely up to you.
> > However, sabotaging someone else's efforts through misinformation -
> > efforts which benefit the entire human race, by the way - is something I
> > find highly ethically questionable and frightening in a person with
> > authority in Nova Roma.
>
> I'm sure his advice was well-intended.

All right; I'm willing to accept your take on it. Without that context,
however, I saw L. Cornelius Sulla's post as propagating dangerous
misinformation about projects I consider vitally important. In my
opinion, they use the best tools - and I'm not talking about computers
but cooperation among well-intentioned people - for the highest
purposes, and I'm behind them all the way. I often wish I could run more
machines just for the purpose, but room and power aboard are limited. :/

> One can never be too careful
> these days, especially if running any version of Windows -- which is
> about as secure as a screen door on a submarine.

<chuckle> I teach a security course for Sun, "Administering Security for
the Solaris Operating Environment". When my students ask me about
running Wind0ws machines in their companies, I can only advise them to
hide these behind multiple (Un*x-based) firewalls, DMZ mail scanners,
and NAT routers and disguise the outgoing OS identifiers.

> Today, I've run "nmap" against all of my machines which run the SETI
> client, and found nothing suspicious.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
ben@Fenrir:~$ nmap localhost

Starting nmap V. 3.10ALPHA4 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on localhost (127.0.0.1):
(The 1604 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port State Service
783/tcp open hp-alarm-mgr

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.466 seconds
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Port 783 is "spamd", my SpamAssassin daemon, and it's accepting only
local packets. On rare occasions, I'll fire up "sshd" when I want an
incoming connection. The "@HOME" client doesn't show at all, just as
expected.

> Thanks for posting the links to the FAQ answers regarding security; this
> should assure everyone here that it's perfectly safe.

You're welcome! I like to contribute what I can.


Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
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Dictum, factum.
Said and done.
-- Terence, "Heautontimorumenos"

Subject:	RES: [Nova-Roma] SETI@home group: Nova Roma
From:	"Titus Arminius Genialis" <tagenialis@yahoo.com.br>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:12:58 -0300

Salvete.

It was a really great idea to create a Nova Roma SETI group.
I've already joined it.
I have been a SETI@home user for about 2 or 3 years, and it is really good
to link SETI and NR.

Valete.
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> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: Marcus Octavius Germanicus [mailto:haase@konoko.net]
> Enviada em: domingo, 30 de março de 2003 10:09
> Para: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Assunto: [Nova-Roma] SETI@home group: Nova Roma
>
>
>
> Salvete Cives,
>
> I have created a group called "Nova Roma" on the SETI@home site.
>
> SETI@home is a distributed computing project run by the University of
> California, Berkeley, in which millions of volunteers donate spare
> CPU time to analyze data gathered from radio telescopes, with the
> goal of finding evidencd of intelligent life. ("SETI" is "Search
> for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence")
>
> SETI@home volunteers download and install a program provided by
> the university that runs continuously in the background (either
> invisibly or as a screen saver) that performs calculations on
> data that is automatically fetched from the SETI servers. Generally,
> it takes about 10-20 hours to complete a "work unit" and return
> the results of the analysis back to the server.
>
> To promote competition, they show statistics for individiual users
> on the website, and also allow the volunteers to organize into teams,
> so that the teams may be ranked by the total of all the results
> that members have been submitted.
>
> If you're a current SETI user and would like to join the new
> Nova Roma group, please go here:
>
> http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=team_join_form&
id=164915

If you've never used SETI@home but would like to try it, you can
download it (for several operating systems including Windows, Macintosh,
Linux, and BSD) and install it in only a few minutes. After that,
your spare processing power (which is otherwise wasted) can be
put to good use.

The main page for the project is at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/.

Please join us!

Vale, Octavius.

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Writers, we want you!!
From:	Karen Blackburn <Karen-Julia@mail.ie>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:50:38 -0800 (PST)

I am a new citizen so have no knowledge of the Nova Roma games, but I can write (both in English and school days Latin) and would be willing to learn if you need help. If so, please contact me with details.

Iulia Vespasia

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] SETI@home group: Nova Roma
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 14:13:37 -0800

Ave Caius Minucius,

I have been employed at Earthink for going on 4 years. When I started working at Earthink (in Technical Support and now in the Finance Dept.) every system had this system (screen saver) installed on them. Back about 2 1/2 years ago, Earthink merged with Mindspring and the Vice Presidents of IT and Executive Vice Presidents posted an announcement to all Earthlink employees instructing them to remove the program. They stated that the program can be a security risk with the networks that we utilize and could result in a security breech. Now, Caius Municius, I appreciate you posting the link and everything, but, I will not put my computer in even a possible risk even. Basically, its a matter of trust, do I trust the executives at Earthink or do I trust you and Seti (who have an interest in promoting their software). I have been employed at Earthink for 4 years and I do not know you nor your experience. I will respectfully choose to decline in this participation in the off chance that someone would be able to isolate open ports or other potential security flaws.

Most Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
----- Original Message -----
From: Caius Minucius Scaevola
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] SETI@home group: Nova Roma


Salvete, omnes:

On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 09:39:46AM -0800, L. Cornelius Sulla wrote:
> Ave,
>
> Earthlink used to do that but it kept ports open that could be a security risk.
>
> With that security risk I on my home personal computer I cannot take that risk.

Rather than spreading FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) through making
uninformed statements, why not find out what's true instead?

The SETI@home FAQ
<http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/faq.html>

What about security?
<http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/faq.html#q1.7>

Ever since version 1.06, SETI@home has had comprehensive firewall
support, single-source downloading, and a number of other security
features built in; at this point, they're up to version 3.07 for
Wind0ws, 3.03 for Mac and Unix. As well, you seem to be lacking a basic
piece of information: if there's no *service* at a given port, there's
no chance of vulnerability. A port simply being open does not constitute
a security risk. Not that it really matters in this case: SETI@home uses
HTTP (outgoing) - the same protocol used by your browser while you surf.

You, of course, are welcome to join or not - it's purely up to you.
However, sabotaging someone else's efforts through misinformation -
efforts which benefit the entire human race, by the way - is something I
find highly ethically questionable and frightening in a person with
authority in Nova Roma.


SETI@home (The Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence)
<http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu>

Folding@home (Stanford University's protein folding project - cancer/
cystic fibrosis/emphysema/BSE/etc. research)
<http://foldingathome.stanford.edu/>

Genome@home (Genome, gene, and protein evolution research)
<http://genomeathome.stanford.edu/>

For a list of other Distributed Client projects, tools, and information
on how you can help, see the Internet-based Distributed Computing
Projects page:
<http://www.aspenleaf.com/distributed/distrib-tools.html>


Valete,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
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Tamdiu discendum est, quamdiu vivas.
We should learn as long as we may live. (We live and learn.)
-- Seneca Philosophus, "Epistulae"

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] SETI@home group: Nova Roma
From:	Caius Minucius Scaevola <ben@callahans.org>
Date:	Sun, 30 Mar 2003 18:07:32 -0500

Ave, L. Sulla -

On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 02:13:37PM -0800, L. Cornelius Sulla wrote:
> Ave Caius Minucius,
>
> I have been employed at Earthink for going on 4 years. When I started
> working at Earthink (in Technical Support and now in the Finance
> Dept.) every system had this system (screen saver) installed on them.
> Back about 2 1/2 years ago, Earthink merged with Mindspring and the
> Vice Presidents of IT and Executive Vice Presidents posted an
> announcement to all Earthlink employees instructing them to remove the
> program. They stated that the program can be a security risk with the
> networks that we utilize and could result in a security breech.

I'm certain that management understands security matters far better
than security administrators and technical professionals. In my
experience, many managers are convinced of it.

> Now,
> Caius Municius, I appreciate you posting the link and everything, but,
> I will not put my computer in even a possible risk even.

Nor was I asking you to; I have no quarrel with anything you may choose
to install (or not) on your computer. What I objected to was a public
broadcast of misinformation, particularly by anyone in a position of
authority. Please note what I said previously:

"You, of course, are welcome to join or not - it's purely up to you."

I would have thought that anyone participating in a group such as this
one, where the cry of "primary sources!" is often heard would realize
the need for accurate information - "accurate" meaning "coming from
reliable and authoritative sources." Earthlink, which has been cracked,
successfully DDoSed, and had its credit card data stolen - I'll provide
info links for the above if you'd like - is hardly what I would consider
even a useful source for security information, much less reliable or
authoritative.


Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
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Illi robur et aes triplex circa pectus erat, qui fragilem truci commisit pelago
ratem primus.
As hard as oak and three times bronze was the heart of him who first committed a
fragile vessel to the keeping of wild waves.
-- Horace, "Carmina"