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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Tue, 01 Apr 2003 02:30:04 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "jlasalle" <jlasalle@s...> wrote:
> Quote of the day:
> "You know the world's gone mad when the best rapper is a white guy,

Salve,

Ok, way off topic, but the first commercially successful rap song was
done by a white woman. The year was 1980, the song "Rapture", the
artist Blondie (Deborah Harry).

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus

P.S. How do you say "font of useless trivia" in Latin?


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:42:40 EST

In a message dated 3/31/03 6:36:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,
richmal@attbi.com writes:

> Ok, way off topic, but the first commercially successful rap song was
> done by a white woman.

UH UH. "Walk this way" by Aerosmith (1975) is considered the first Rap song.

I know because Run DMC later covered it, and I worked on that music video.

Fabivs

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:50:10 -0800

Dont forget the first Rap Label, Sugar Hill Records. <g>

And, Walk this way by Aerosmith was not a Rap song..til Run DMC covered it with Aerosmith and subsequently revived them as a viable Rock group. (back in 1985)

But Q. Cassius is right about Blonde, she even had the late artist Basquiat in her video.

Vale,

Sulla
----- Original Message -----
From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:

In a message dated 3/31/03 6:36:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,
richmal@attbi.com writes:

> Ok, way off topic, but the first commercially successful rap song was
> done by a white woman.

UH UH. "Walk this way" by Aerosmith (1975) is considered the first Rap song.

I know because Run DMC later covered it, and I worked on that music video.

Fabivs

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Quote of the day:
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:44:39 -0500

THIS IS GREAT

Tiberius

----- Original Message -----
From: "jlasalle" <jlasalle@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Nova-Roma" <nova-roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:47 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Quote of the day:

> Quote of the day:
> "You know the world's gone mad when the best rapper is a white guy, the
> best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the
> Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the USA of arrogance and
> the Germans don't want to go to war!"
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:26:30 -0800 (PST)

Y'all are forgetting the "C" in Crap Music. ;o)

--- "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Dont forget the first Rap Label, Sugar Hill Records.
> <g>
>
> And, Walk this way by Aerosmith was not a Rap
> song..til Run DMC covered it with Aerosmith and
> subsequently revived them as a viable Rock group.
> (back in 1985)
>
> But Q. Cassius is right about Blonde, she even had
> the late artist Basquiat in her video.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
>
>
> In a message dated 3/31/03 6:36:57 PM Pacific
> Standard Time,
> richmal@attbi.com writes:
>
>
> > Ok, way off topic, but the first commercially
> successful rap song was
> > done by a white woman.
>
> UH UH. "Walk this way" by Aerosmith (1975) is
> considered the first Rap song.
>
> I know because Run DMC later covered it, and I
> worked on that music video.
>
> Fabivs
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 05:01:20 EST

In a message dated 3/31/03 6:55:50 PM Pacific Standard Time,
alexious@earthlink.net writes:

> And, Walk this way by Aerosmith was not a Rap song..til Run DMC covered it
> with Aerosmith and subsequently revived them as a viable Rock group. (back
> in 1985)
>
>

R. DMC would disagree with you. Rap started in Philly. Aerosmith simply
popularized a street "jive" into a song. But the meter was rap.

FABIVS

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Tue, 01 Apr 2003 12:21:52 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, qfabiusmaxmi@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 3/31/03 6:55:50 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> alexious@e... writes:
>
>
> > And, Walk this way by Aerosmith was not a Rap song..til Run DMC
covered it
> > with Aerosmith and subsequently revived them as a viable Rock
group. (back
> > in 1985)
> >
> >
>
> R. DMC would disagree with you. Rap started in Philly. Aerosmith
simply
> popularized a street "jive" into a song. But the meter was rap.
>

Next time I'm using a Ouija board to download the latest Tupac I'll
ask Jam Master Jay.

Calvus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] File - List Guidelines, Main List
From:	Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Date:	1 Apr 2003 12:55:52 -0000

Ex Officio Praetorium

EDICTVM PRAETORICIVM DE MODERATIONE

The praetores of Nova Roma hereby define the guidelines for
appropriate usage of Nova Roma's public communication forum, currently
located at:
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These guidelines are based on the guidelines previously issued by
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of Nova Roma, though, we keep the right to change these guidelines in
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Please consider the following when expressing disagreement of opposing
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or particular subscribers of the list, to wit, TROLLS, it has become
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The forum of Roma Antiquita was a large venue, with people of
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Rome was a very mulicultured place in her glory. Mind you official
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Our constitution mandates freedom of communication provided it is not
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Currently, the praetores can understand Latin, Spanish, French,
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***Exception: This does not contravene the Lex Cornelia de Linguis
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No citizen shall be kept in moderate status for more than 2 (two)
months
without a firm sentence issued by a legal court as described by the
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(For example: Nobody is going to be placed on moderated status for an
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 06:58:17 -0800

LOL interesting....they also claimed that they have never heard of Run DMC before their producer....told them about the song. Rick Rubin was their producer. This is what they stated in Behind the Music, and Ultimate Albums. But, I am not surprised if their story has changed over the years.

Vale,

Sulla
----- Original Message -----
From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:

In a message dated 3/31/03 6:55:50 PM Pacific Standard Time,
alexious@earthlink.net writes:

> And, Walk this way by Aerosmith was not a Rap song..til Run DMC covered it
> with Aerosmith and subsequently revived them as a viable Rock group. (back
> in 1985)
>
>

R. DMC would disagree with you. Rap started in Philly. Aerosmith simply
popularized a street "jive" into a song. But the meter was rap.

FABIVS

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	labienus@novaroma.org
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:27:22 US/Central

> This is what they stated in Behind the Music...

Was that the series that covered the punk movement without once mentioning the
Dead Kennedys?

TLF


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 07:25:59 -0800

I think that was another documentary...but same channel though. LOL!!

Sulla
----- Original Message -----
From: labienus@novaroma.org
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:

> This is what they stated in Behind the Music...

Was that the series that covered the punk movement without once mentioning the
Dead Kennedys?

TLF


Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	"jlasalle" <jlasalle@sbcglobal.net>
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 10:41:45 -0600

The DK's ruled. I wish a modern metal band would do some covers

-----Original Message-----
From: labienus@novaroma.org [mailto:labienus@novaroma.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:27 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:

> This is what they stated in Behind the Music...

Was that the series that covered the punk movement without once mentioning
the
Dead Kennedys?

TLF


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
From:	"jlasalle" <jlasalle@sbcglobal.net>
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 10:44:13 -0600

http://slate.msn.com/id/1003170/

-----Original Message-----
From: L. Cornelius Sulla [mailto:alexious@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:26 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:

I think that was another documentary...but same channel though. LOL!!

Sulla
----- Original Message -----
From: labienus@novaroma.org
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:

> This is what they stated in Behind the Music...

Was that the series that covered the punk movement without once
mentioning the
Dead Kennedys?

TLF


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
From:	"pompeia_cornelia" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 01 Apr 2003 16:54:48 -0000

---A Roman Invented Rap.....:)

Marcus Valerius Martialis (known in English as Martial) with the
Epigrams, which were lines of poetry expressing an opinion, either
humorous, sarcasms, or some noteworthy feature...don't have a
dictionary handy, but that's the basic meaning if you look it up.

Uncanny, because Eminem's real name is Martial :)

Pompeia

In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "jlasalle" <jlasalle@s...> wrote:
>
>
> http://slate.msn.com/id/1003170/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: L. Cornelius Sulla [mailto:alexious@e...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:26 AM
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
>
>
> I think that was another documentary...but same channel though.
LOL!!
>
> Sulla
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:27 AM
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> > This is what they stated in Behind the Music...
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> Was that the series that covered the punk movement without once
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> Dead Kennedys?
>
> TLF
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
From:	"pompeia_cornelia" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 01 Apr 2003 16:55:35 -0000

---Hey Basicilius.....wanna battle??....Hollah!!

Pompeia

In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "jlasalle" <jlasalle@s...> wrote:
>
>
> http://slate.msn.com/id/1003170/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: L. Cornelius Sulla [mailto:alexious@e...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:26 AM
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
>
>
> I think that was another documentary...but same channel though.
LOL!!
>
> Sulla
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: labienus@n...
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
>
>
> > This is what they stated in Behind the Music...
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> Was that the series that covered the punk movement without once
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> Dead Kennedys?
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 08:54:59 -0800

Ave!

Well its Marshall. <g> Marshall Mathers to be more precise.

Vale,

Sulla
----- Original Message -----
From: pompeia_cornelia
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:54 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?

---A Roman Invented Rap.....:)

Marcus Valerius Martialis (known in English as Martial) with the
Epigrams, which were lines of poetry expressing an opinion, either
humorous, sarcasms, or some noteworthy feature...don't have a
dictionary handy, but that's the basic meaning if you look it up.

Uncanny, because Eminem's real name is Martial :)

Pompeia

In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "jlasalle" <jlasalle@s...> wrote:
>
>
> http://slate.msn.com/id/1003170/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: L. Cornelius Sulla [mailto:alexious@e...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:26 AM
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
>
>
> I think that was another documentary...but same channel though.
LOL!!
>
> Sulla
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: labienus@n...
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
>
>
> > This is what they stated in Behind the Music...
>
> Was that the series that covered the punk movement without once
> mentioning the
> Dead Kennedys?
>
> TLF
>
>
>


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
From:	"metamorphosis2003" <metamorphosis2003@yahoo.ca>
Date:	Tue, 01 Apr 2003 17:01:17 -0000

--Salve Pater :):

Yes. Marshall Mathers, not Martial...whoops!......'or' Marshall
Bruce Mathers III....sounds so formal lol!

I like some of his stuff not all of it.....he's a great lyricist, but
I think he should have kept the Epigrams about his mother away from
the public. Other than that, the man's a master with lyrics and
delivery.

Po

- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@e...>
wrote:
> Ave!
>
> Well its Marshall. <g> Marshall Mathers to be more precise.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pompeia_cornelia
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
>
>
> ---A Roman Invented Rap.....:)
>
> Marcus Valerius Martialis (known in English as Martial) with the
> Epigrams, which were lines of poetry expressing an opinion,
either
> humorous, sarcasms, or some noteworthy feature...don't have a
> dictionary handy, but that's the basic meaning if you look it up.
>
> Uncanny, because Eminem's real name is Martial :)
>
> Pompeia
>
>
> In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "jlasalle" <jlasalle@s...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > http://slate.msn.com/id/1003170/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: L. Cornelius Sulla [mailto:alexious@e...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:26 AM
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
> >
> >
> > I think that was another documentary...but same channel
though.
> LOL!!
> >
> > Sulla
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: labienus@n...
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
> >
> >
> > > This is what they stated in Behind the Music...
> >
> > Was that the series that covered the punk movement without
once
> > mentioning the
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	"metamorphosis2003" <metamorphosis2003@yahoo.ca>
Date:	Tue, 01 Apr 2003 17:04:29 -0000

---

Actually, alot of Aerosmith's stuff is rappy.

It's kinda fun to play with words

Pompeia 'takes sharp scissors and snips you sinister synonyms to a
sinful minimal".....(bragging about the line, shamelessly)

Po

In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, qfabiusmaxmi@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 3/31/03 6:36:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> richmal@a... writes:
>
>
> > Ok, way off topic, but the first commercially successful rap song
was
> > done by a white woman.
>
> UH UH. "Walk this way" by Aerosmith (1975) is considered the first
Rap song.
>
> I know because Run DMC later covered it, and I worked on that music
video.
>
> Fabivs
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:11:58 -0800

Ave!

But he did that on purpose...controversy....every time his name is on the news he sells another 100K records....LOL!! There is no such thing as bad publicity.....or as one of my favorite authors states:

"If you accuse an actor or entertianer of drunkness, drug addiction, etc, it only means you read their biography." (Paraphrased from PJ O'Rourke)

Vale,

Sulla
----- Original Message -----
From: metamorphosis2003
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:01 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?

--Salve Pater :):

Yes. Marshall Mathers, not Martial...whoops!......'or' Marshall
Bruce Mathers III....sounds so formal lol!

I like some of his stuff not all of it.....he's a great lyricist, but
I think he should have kept the Epigrams about his mother away from
the public. Other than that, the man's a master with lyrics and
delivery.

Po

- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@e...>
wrote:
> Ave!
>
> Well its Marshall. <g> Marshall Mathers to be more precise.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pompeia_cornelia
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
>
>
> ---A Roman Invented Rap.....:)
>
> Marcus Valerius Martialis (known in English as Martial) with the
> Epigrams, which were lines of poetry expressing an opinion,
either
> humorous, sarcasms, or some noteworthy feature...don't have a
> dictionary handy, but that's the basic meaning if you look it up.
>
> Uncanny, because Eminem's real name is Martial :)
>
> Pompeia
>
>
> In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "jlasalle" <jlasalle@s...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > http://slate.msn.com/id/1003170/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: L. Cornelius Sulla [mailto:alexious@e...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:26 AM
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
> >
> >
> > I think that was another documentary...but same channel
though.
> LOL!!
> >
> > Sulla
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: labienus@n...
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
> >
> >
> > > This is what they stated in Behind the Music...
> >
> > Was that the series that covered the punk movement without
once
> > mentioning the
> > Dead Kennedys?
> >
> > TLF
> >
> >
> >


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Imperium Romanorum website
From:	"Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Tue, 01 Apr 2003 12:39:38 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to the "Imperium Romanorum" website of Prof. Clifton R.
Fox (Tomball College):

http://wwwtc.nhmccd.cc.tx.us/people/crf01/rome/

Among the more interesting features of the website are fasti of the
Censores from 280 B.C.E. to 28 B.C.E., fasti of the Consules Ordinarii
from 300 B.C.E. through 68 C.E., a listing of all the emperors from
Augustus to the fall of Constantinople to the Turks, and a genealogy
of the Julio-Claudians (although that genealogy isn't well presented
or particularly easy to interpret given its format).

Valete.

G. Iulius Scaurus


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	Hedea Bianchia Dryantilla <hedeabianchia@unc.edu>
Date:	Tue, 01 Apr 2003 07:16:42 -0500

hmmm... if I remember the song you're talking about, it definately doesn't
fall into the rap category by today's standards.

--On Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:01 AM -0500 qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 3/31/03 6:55:50 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> alexious@earthlink.net writes:
>
>
>> And, Walk this way by Aerosmith was not a Rap song..til Run DMC covered
>> it with Aerosmith and subsequently revived them as a viable Rock group.
>> (back in 1985)
>>
>>
>
> R. DMC would disagree with you. Rap started in Philly. Aerosmith simply
> popularized a street "jive" into a song. But the meter was rap.
>
> FABIVS
>
>
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:46:26 -0800

I agree.

And, Rap started in Queens, NY too. :) Thats where it all started....It quickly spread to other NY suburbs like South Bronx (from the BDP rap of the same name).

Vale,

Sulla
----- Original Message -----
From: Hedea Bianchia Dryantilla
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:

hmmm... if I remember the song you're talking about, it definately doesn't
fall into the rap category by today's standards.

--On Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:01 AM -0500 qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 3/31/03 6:55:50 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> alexious@earthlink.net writes:
>
>
>> And, Walk this way by Aerosmith was not a Rap song..til Run DMC covered
>> it with Aerosmith and subsequently revived them as a viable Rock group.
>> (back in 1985)
>>
>>
>
> R. DMC would disagree with you. Rap started in Philly. Aerosmith simply
> popularized a street "jive" into a song. But the meter was rap.
>
> FABIVS
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Basic Course about Nova Roma at the Academia
From:	"Gnaeus Salix Astur" <salixastur@yahoo.es>
Date:	Tue, 01 Apr 2003 18:55:08 -0000

Salvete Quirites; et salve, senator Sulla.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Cornelius Sulla"
<alexious@e...> wrote:
> Ave,
>
> Do you really have to spam every list? You might be better served
> just emailing all citizens individually. This way some citizens
> will not get 10 copies of the same email.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla

Unfortunately, this is the only way I know to contact a wide part of
our population. If I could e-mail each citizen directly, I certainly
would, and thus I would avoid all these unnecessary repetitions.

CN�SALIX�ASTVR�T�F�A�NEP�TRIB�OVF


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
From:	"pompeia_cornelia" <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 01 Apr 2003 18:54:18 -0000

---Ave

You're right Pater. It's just that I thought it was a cheap shot.
Not that I'm saying his mother's lilly pure, but yunno, telling the
whole world your rotten personal appraisal , is, to me, a cheap shot.

Po

In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@e...>
wrote:
> Ave!
>
> But he did that on purpose...controversy....every time his name is
on the news he sells another 100K records....LOL!! There is no such
thing as bad publicity.....or as one of my favorite authors states:
>
> "If you accuse an actor or entertianer of drunkness, drug
addiction, etc, it only means you read their biography." (Paraphrased
from PJ O'Rourke)
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: metamorphosis2003
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:01 AM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
>
>
> --Salve Pater :):
>
> Yes. Marshall Mathers, not Martial...whoops!......'or' Marshall
> Bruce Mathers III....sounds so formal lol!
>
> I like some of his stuff not all of it.....he's a great lyricist,
but
> I think he should have kept the Epigrams about his mother away
from
> the public. Other than that, the man's a master with lyrics and
> delivery.
>
> Po
>
>
> - In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Cornelius Sulla"
<alexious@e...>
> wrote:
> > Ave!
> >
> > Well its Marshall. <g> Marshall Mathers to be more precise.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: pompeia_cornelia
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:54 AM
> > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
> >
> >
> > ---A Roman Invented Rap.....:)
> >
> > Marcus Valerius Martialis (known in English as Martial) with
the
> > Epigrams, which were lines of poetry expressing an opinion,
> either
> > humorous, sarcasms, or some noteworthy feature...don't have a
> > dictionary handy, but that's the basic meaning if you look it
up.
> >
> > Uncanny, because Eminem's real name is Martial :)
> >
> > Pompeia
> >
> >
> > In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "jlasalle" <jlasalle@s...>
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://slate.msn.com/id/1003170/
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: L. Cornelius Sulla [mailto:alexious@e...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:26 AM
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
> > >
> > >
> > > I think that was another documentary...but same channel
> though.
> > LOL!!
> > >
> > > Sulla
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: labienus@n...
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:27 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
> > >
> > >
> > > > This is what they stated in Behind the Music...
> > >
> > > Was that the series that covered the punk movement
without
> once
> > > mentioning the
> > > Dead Kennedys?
> > >
> > > TLF
> > >
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 10:53:30 -0800

Yep, I agree it is a cheap shot. But it was very lucrative for him to make those cheap shots. (and probably for his mom too, since she ended up suing him).

Vale,

Sulla
----- Original Message -----
From: pompeia_cornelia
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:54 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?

---Ave

You're right Pater. It's just that I thought it was a cheap shot.
Not that I'm saying his mother's lilly pure, but yunno, telling the
whole world your rotten personal appraisal , is, to me, a cheap shot.

Po

In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@e...>
wrote:
> Ave!
>
> But he did that on purpose...controversy....every time his name is
on the news he sells another 100K records....LOL!! There is no such
thing as bad publicity.....or as one of my favorite authors states:
>
> "If you accuse an actor or entertianer of drunkness, drug
addiction, etc, it only means you read their biography." (Paraphrased
from PJ O'Rourke)
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: metamorphosis2003
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:01 AM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
>
>
> --Salve Pater :):
>
> Yes. Marshall Mathers, not Martial...whoops!......'or' Marshall
> Bruce Mathers III....sounds so formal lol!
>
> I like some of his stuff not all of it.....he's a great lyricist,
but
> I think he should have kept the Epigrams about his mother away
from
> the public. Other than that, the man's a master with lyrics and
> delivery.
>
> Po
>
>
> - In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Cornelius Sulla"
<alexious@e...>
> wrote:
> > Ave!
> >
> > Well its Marshall. <g> Marshall Mathers to be more precise.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: pompeia_cornelia
> > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:54 AM
> > Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
> >
> >
> > ---A Roman Invented Rap.....:)
> >
> > Marcus Valerius Martialis (known in English as Martial) with
the
> > Epigrams, which were lines of poetry expressing an opinion,
> either
> > humorous, sarcasms, or some noteworthy feature...don't have a
> > dictionary handy, but that's the basic meaning if you look it
up.
> >
> > Uncanny, because Eminem's real name is Martial :)
> >
> > Pompeia
> >
> >
> > In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "jlasalle" <jlasalle@s...>
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://slate.msn.com/id/1003170/
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: L. Cornelius Sulla [mailto:alexious@e...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:26 AM
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
> > >
> > >
> > > I think that was another documentary...but same channel
> though.
> > LOL!!
> > >
> > > Sulla
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: labienus@n...
> > > To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:27 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
> > >
> > >
> > > > This is what they stated in Behind the Music...
> > >
> > > Was that the series that covered the punk movement
without
> once
> > > mentioning the
> > > Dead Kennedys?
> > >
> > > TLF
> > >
> > >
> > >


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Basic Course about Nova Roma at the Academia
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 10:54:36 -0800

You can, its easy, just a bit time consuming. Just go to the Album Civium and click on each member individually and click the send mail button...and copy and paste your text in and they are emailed.

Vale,

Sulla
----- Original Message -----
From: Gnaeus Salix Astur
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:55 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Basic Course about Nova Roma at the Academia

Salvete Quirites; et salve, senator Sulla.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Cornelius Sulla"
<alexious@e...> wrote:
> Ave,
>
> Do you really have to spam every list? You might be better served
> just emailing all citizens individually. This way some citizens
> will not get 10 copies of the same email.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla

Unfortunately, this is the only way I know to contact a wide part of
our population. If I could e-mail each citizen directly, I certainly
would, and thus I would avoid all these unnecessary repetitions.

CN�SALIX�ASTVR�T�F�A�NEP�TRIB�OVF


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Basic Course about Nova Roma at the Academia
From:	Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net>
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 14:08:05 -0600 (CST)

I'll do mass-mailings to any requested and easily-identified group of citizens
(such as "all plebeians" or "all assidui in Hispania") upon request from a
Censor, Consul, Praetor, Tribune, any provincial governor mailing to his own
province, or other magistrates if approved by a senior magistrate.

Vale, Octavius.

> You can, its easy, just a bit time consuming. Just go to the Album Civium and click on each member individually and click the send mail button...and copy and paste your text in and they are emailed.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sulla
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gnaeus Salix Astur
> To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:55 AM
> Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Basic Course about Nova Roma at the Academia
>
>
> Salvete Quirites; et salve, senator Sulla.
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Cornelius Sulla"
> <alexious@e...> wrote:
> > Ave,
> >
> > Do you really have to spam every list? You might be better served
> > just emailing all citizens individually. This way some citizens
> > will not get 10 copies of the same email.
> >
> > Vale,
> >
> > Sulla
>
> Unfortunately, this is the only way I know to contact a wide part of
> our population. If I could e-mail each citizen directly, I certainly
> would, and thus I would avoid all these unnecessary repetitions.
>
> CN�SALIX�ASTVR�T�F�A�NEP�TRIB�OVF
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
>
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>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>

--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus,
Censor, Consular, Citizen.
http://konoko.net/~haase/


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:36:31 EST

In a message dated 4/1/03 9:25:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,
hedeabianchia@unc.edu writes:

> hmmm... if I remember the song you're talking about, it definately doesn't
> fall into the rap category by today's standards.
>
>

You answered your own question. "By today's standards." Like RnR rap
evolved into several sub genres. The rap we hear today is mostly inspired by
"Out of Compton."
The Philly style is not used as much, though you hear it occasionally. The
theme from "Fastlane" for an example.
Right now I'm involved in producing a haircut band, with an '80s sound. We
will see if music is about to go retro again.

--Fabivs

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Basic Course about Nova Roma at the Academia
From:	"Gnaeus Salix Astur" <salixastur@yahoo.es>
Date:	Tue, 01 Apr 2003 21:13:29 -0000

Salvete Quirites; et salve, censor Octavi Germanice.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
<haase@c...> wrote:
>
> I'll do mass-mailings to any requested and easily-identified group
> of citizens (such as "all plebeians" or "all assidui in Hispania")
> upon request from a Censor, Consul, Praetor, Tribune, any
> provincial governor mailing to his own province, or other
> magistrates if approved by a senior magistrate.
>
> Vale, Octavius.

Thank you, censor.

However, I guess that I will not be a magistrate forever, and I might
very well need to broadcast Academia announcements in the future.

If any of you feels offended by those mails, you have my permission
to erase them without a second thought :-).

CN�SALIX�ASTVR�T�F�A�NEP�TRIB�OVF


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Tue, 01 Apr 2003 21:20:54 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, qfabiusmaxmi@a... wrote:

> Right now I'm involved in producing a haircut band, with an '80s
sound. We
> will see if music is about to go retro again.
>
> --Fabivs

Why not? Music tends to be cyclical in its evolution. Bob Marley
was singing about killing cops with "I Shot the Sheriff" (which
Clapton cashed in by covering) 18 years before Ice-T/NWA's
controversial "Cop Killer." Another trend in music, black guys
invent it and then "whitey" comes along and cashes in on it.
Elvis.... Clapton.... Vanilla Ice.... Eminem.....

Calvus


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Did a White Iowan Invent Rap Music?
From:	me-in-@disguise.co.uk
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:25:27 +0100 (BST)

-----Original Message-----
>From : pompeia_cornelia <scriba_forum@hotmail.com>
>
>Uncanny, because Eminem's real name is Martial :)
>
Akchuly you got a point. I /was/ going to say that rap unrecorded must go back to way back when, maybe even to just the kind of accent you get in the West Indies and as well, any recordings/memories of Mohammed Ali-Cassius Clay, if that isn't [a damn side better than rap] what is?
BUT, I do recall hearing a reading of Yevtoshenko. I don't understand Russian but it did occur to me that with their immense conservatism and archaic formed language they probably come closest to the ancient poetry based on long and short syllables. And as well as the stresses, rap depends a lot on the actual length of its syllables, so it might very well have been recognisable to Catullus and Sappho.

Caesariensis.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] =?iso-8859-1?q?Factiones_Symbols_Contest_(2=BA_call)?=
From:	"Alejandro Carneiro" <piteas@telefonica.net>
Date:	Tue, 01 Apr 2003 21:31:12 -0000

Citizens!

In this moment we have several proposals for the praesina symbol and
one for the veneta. But there aren�t proposals for the flag or symbol
of the albata and the russata.
Please, reds and whites, your factiones need "coats of arms" or... do
you want to continue in the races without a proud flag as the next
one of the greens or blues? ;-)

Look the basis below and create a nice and good symbol for your color.

The Factiones Symbols Contest.

1. Create yours designs on symbols for the factiones and send to
piteas@telefonica.net. The deadline is 1st April.

2. You can do logos for every factio or only a design for one. The
files can be gif, jpg, bmp or png in higher resolution.

3. All the designs will be showed in the "files" archive of every
factio mailing list during the Ludi Mergalesia (4-10 April) in order
that the members vote the best design for their loved color. In case
of tie, the vote of the Domini will have double value.

The links to the factiones mailing lists are:

Albata: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/factio_albata/
Russata: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/russata/
Veneta: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/factioveneta/
Praesina: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/factiopraesina/

4. The elections of each factio symbol will be only in the mailing
list of each factio.

5. The four more voted symbols will be the official symbols of every
factio of the circus.

6. The authors of the winning designs will be nominated honor members
of the factiones by their Domini.

Salix Galaicus
Caput officinae ludorum


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Plebeians!!! Less than 3 days left for voting!!!
From:	"Daniel O. Villanueva" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar>
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 18:54:07 -0300

Salve Plebeian citizen!

This is just a friendly reminder that the fourth run-off election for the 1(one)

vacant office of Tribunus Plebis is currently in progress! Voting will

continue until Friday April 4th, 18:01 Roman Time, but why wait? Vote now by

going to http://www.novaroma.org and clicking 'VOTE NOW' !

If you don't remember your voter code or are a new citizen, no problem. You

can have your voter code automatically mailed to you by doing the following:

Go to http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gentes Find the name of your gens

(they are listed alphabetically). Two columns to the right of your Gens

name, click on the 'number of cives'. A new page opens that contains a

listing of all the citizens in your Gens. Find your name and click on the

link. On the new page you'll see a box which contains information about you.

Click on "Get voter code". On the new page, enter your year of birth and

click 'request voter code'. Your voter code will be emailed to you. Once you

have your voter code, go to http://www.novaroma.org and click 'VOTE NOW'.

Thank you for your participation in this election!

Vale,

Lucius Pompeius Octavianus

Tribunus Plebis

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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	"jlasalle" <jlasalle@sbcglobal.net>
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 17:20:14 -0600

Ave

"Another trend in music, black guys invent it and then "whitey" comes along
and cashes in on it. Elvis.... Clapton.... Vanilla Ice.... Eminem....."

I take issue with that statement. Modern American music is a combination, a
melting pot, if you will, of different musical styles. Blacks didn't
"invent" jazz, or rock and roll, or rap. The instruments, musical styles and
theories are Western in origin. Saying whitey stole rock and roll from
blackey is about as valid as saying blackie stole the guitar, the half note,
or 4/4 from whitey. As you know, I'm strongly against class divisions, and I
likewise oppose any statements that advance racial division. Jazz, rock, and
rap are uniquely American music that no one person or race can take sole
credit for, and were created by fortuitious meetings of people, places and
times. Likewise, many foriegn artists took jazz to a level never imagined by
their forerunners. Django Rhinehardt and Stephan Grappelli come to mind.

GB Agricola

-----Original Message-----
From: quintuscassiuscalvus [mailto:richmal@attbi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:21 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, qfabiusmaxmi@a... wrote:

> Right now I'm involved in producing a haircut band, with an '80s
sound. We
> will see if music is about to go retro again.
>
> --Fabivs

Why not? Music tends to be cyclical in its evolution. Bob Marley
was singing about killing cops with "I Shot the Sheriff" (which
Clapton cashed in by covering) 18 years before Ice-T/NWA's
controversial "Cop Killer." Another trend in music, black guys
invent it and then "whitey" comes along and cashes in on it.
Elvis.... Clapton.... Vanilla Ice.... Eminem.....

Calvus


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Tue, 1 Apr 2003 15:22:34 -0800

LOL Well Little Richard will say that Pat Boone sure cashed in on Tootie Fruiti back in the 1950's.

Vale,

Sulla
----- Original Message -----
From: jlasalle
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:

Ave

"Another trend in music, black guys invent it and then "whitey" comes along
and cashes in on it. Elvis.... Clapton.... Vanilla Ice.... Eminem....."

I take issue with that statement. Modern American music is a combination, a
melting pot, if you will, of different musical styles. Blacks didn't
"invent" jazz, or rock and roll, or rap. The instruments, musical styles and
theories are Western in origin. Saying whitey stole rock and roll from
blackey is about as valid as saying blackie stole the guitar, the half note,
or 4/4 from whitey. As you know, I'm strongly against class divisions, and I
likewise oppose any statements that advance racial division. Jazz, rock, and
rap are uniquely American music that no one person or race can take sole
credit for, and were created by fortuitious meetings of people, places and
times. Likewise, many foriegn artists took jazz to a level never imagined by
their forerunners. Django Rhinehardt and Stephan Grappelli come to mind.

GB Agricola

-----Original Message-----
From: quintuscassiuscalvus [mailto:richmal@attbi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:21 PM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quote of the day:

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, qfabiusmaxmi@a... wrote:

> Right now I'm involved in producing a haircut band, with an '80s
sound. We
> will see if music is about to go retro again.
>
> --Fabivs

Why not? Music tends to be cyclical in its evolution. Bob Marley
was singing about killing cops with "I Shot the Sheriff" (which
Clapton cashed in by covering) 18 years before Ice-T/NWA's
controversial "Cop Killer." Another trend in music, black guys
invent it and then "whitey" comes along and cashes in on it.
Elvis.... Clapton.... Vanilla Ice.... Eminem.....

Calvus