Forum Romanum


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Six foot tall Centurian Statue
From:	cassius622@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:42:02 EDT

Salvete,

I was just browsing through eBay, and found a pretty amazing six-foot tall
statue of a Roman Centurian. Pretty reasonably priced for what it is! Check
out:

<A HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2823203859&category=20151">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2823203859&category=20151</A>

I'm awfully tempted myself, except that I have no money after travelling to
Rome. And... where would I put it? Figured I'd post it here in case someone
out there has a shop or something! What a great prop for a Roman event...

Valete,

Marcus Cassius Julianus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] A Blessing for the Games
From:	Iulia Vopisca <iulia_uopisca@yahoo.com>
Date:	Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:24:05 -0700 (PDT)

May Magna Mater convey Her Blessing upon these Ludi ...

and upon all who perform good work in Her Name!

She is Ops, the Bringer of Abundance,

Mother of our Capitoline Triad, and Tellus Mater,

the common Mother of us all.

May She bring gladness to your heart and the

best portions of both passion and serenity!

So May it Be - ITA EST.

PACEM VENIAMQVE DEORVM TIBI EXOPTET IVLIA VOPISCA

http://www.aztriad.com/cybeleix.html

* MATRIS DEVM MAGNAE IDEAEAE SACERDOS FILIAQVE *

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] POSTED IN THE FORUM: MEGALESIA MVNVS
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Wed, 9 Apr 2003 01:58:18 EDT

SALVETE NOVA ROMANI

As we feel responsible for involving the current Ludi in the Religio, the
college feels it is best to give the Magna Mater her promised appeasment.
Therefore as a privitus I have decided to sponsor a munus dedicated to the
Magna Mater.
It will be "sine missione," with the hope that She accepts this contest.
I have contacted two Lanistae to provide fighters.
More details will be forthcoming in the next day.

VALETE
Q*FABIVS*MAXIMVS
SENATOR

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] A Roman Law Link
From:	"Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Wed, 09 Apr 2003 04:48:32 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to the "Roman Law Resources" website:

http://iuscivile.com/

Created by Ernest Metzger (University of Aberdeen), it is an
exceptional aid to anyone interested in serious research on Roman law,
and comes with a version in German at:

http://www.iuscivile.com/deu/

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] In thanks for success in the semifinals
From:	"Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Wed, 09 Apr 2003 06:50:15 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.

Avete, Quirites.

In thanks to Magna Mater for Factio Praesina's success in the
semifinal race of the Ludi Megalesia here are a few images of the circus:

A marble sarcophagus lid relief of the procession opening Circus games
(ca. 280 CE), four horses, escorted by a youth, pulling the tensa
(chest for sacred objects) containing images of the gods (in this case
Jupiter, Castor, and Pollux) who are to watch the races from the pulvinar:

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/pomparelief.jpg

A mosaic of a charioteer in the opening procession of the games (4th
century CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/charioteerpa.jpg

A statue of magistrate throwing down the mappa at the start of a race
(4th century CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/mappa_consul.gif

A terracotta lamp with an image of a race in the Circus Maximus
(2nd-3rd century CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/circuslamp4.jpg

A relief of a race in the Circus Maximus (3rd century CE):

http://www.mmdtkw.org/VCharRace.jpg

A bronze contorniate, probably dating to Constantius II, with an
image of races in the Circus Maximus:

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/circuscoin.jp

A terracotta lamp with image of a quadriga (40-70 CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/circuslamp1.jpg

A terracotta lamp with an image of a biga and victorious charioteer
with palm frond and prize weath in the Circus Maximus (30-70 CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/circuslamp2.jpg

A mosaic of victorious charioteer, Polydus, and his lead
horse,Compressor (mid-3rd century CE, although possibly a forgery
since Polydus is portrayed as Factio Russata :-):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/polydus2.jpg

A small ivory figurine of a victorious charioteer holding a palm
branch (1st-2nd century CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/charioteerivory.jpg

A terracotta lamp with an image of a biga and victorious charioteer
with palm frond and prize weath in the Circus Maximus (30-70 CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/circuslamp2.jpg

A mosaic of victorious charioteer and team from Factio Praesina (3rd
century CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/bonvallet_images/bonvall9.jpg

And, finally, an image of the temple of Magna Mater in whose honour we
celebrate these Ludi (from the Ara Pacis):

http://www.vroma.org/~mgrunow/images/magnamater.jpg

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] MEGALESIA LUDI: Megalesia Cultural Award '56 - The Winner!
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Wed, 09 Apr 2003 09:28:53 -0000

Salvete Omnes,

the Jury of the Megalesia Cultural Award '56, the epygrams' contest
by the Cohors Aedilis F. Apulus Caesar, in collaboration with
Illustrus Curule Aedile Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, accomplished the
judgement.

All the works are very beautiful and each author is deserving to
win. However only one can be the winner and this is the results.

1st place
Poem by Gaia Flavia Aureliana

2nd place
JULIA DOMNA by Patricia Cassia

3rd Place
Poem by Spurius Postumius Tubertus

And the winner is Gaia Flavia Aureliana! Congratulations!

This is work winner of the Megalesia Cultural Award '56

------------------------------------

The Flame long quenched; no incense burnt upon the altar broken.
No Eagles flew; no trumpets rang; none cried in exultation.
No vows renewed; no Senate met; no classic language spoken.
Or so it seemed - until I found the Nova Roman Nation.

-------------------------------------

The poem will be show with a theatral movie in a next Ludi.

The Cohors Aedilis thanks all the authors for their job, we're happy
to have read these wonderful pomes.

I also thnak again Illustrus Curule Aedile and friend Gnaeus
Equitius Marinus. He and the staff did a wonderful job.

Continue to enjoy Megalesia Ludi!

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Senior Curule Aedile


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] In thanks for victory in the semifinal race
From:	"Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Wed, 09 Apr 2003 08:39:52 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.

Avete, Quirites.

In thanks to Magna Mater for Factio Praesina's success in the
semifinal race of the Ludi Circenses Megalesiae here are a few images
of the circus:

A marble sarcophagus lid relief of the procession opening Circus games
(ca. 280 CE), four horses, escorted by a youth, pulling the tensa
(chest for sacred objects) containing images of the gods (in this case
Jupiter, Castor, and Pollux) who are to watch the races from the pulvinar:

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/pomparelief.jpg

A mosaic of a charioteer in the opening procession of the games (4th
century CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/charioteerpa.jpg

A statue of magistrate throwing down the mappa at the start of a race
(4th century CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/mappa_consul.gif

A terracotta lamp with an image of a race in the Circus Maximus
(2nd-3rd century CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/circuslamp4.jpg

A relief of a race in the Circus Maximus (3rd century CE):

http://www.mmdtkw.org/VCharRace.jpg

A bronze contorniate, probably dating to Constantius II, with an
image of races in the Circus Maximus:

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/circuscoin.jpg

A terracotta lamp with image of a quadriga (40-70 CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/circuslamp1.jpg

A terracotta lamp with an image of a biga and victorious charioteer
with palm frond and prize weath in the Circus Maximus (30-70 CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/circuslamp2.jpg

A mosaic of victorious charioteer, Polydus, and his lead
horse,Compressor (mid-3rd century CE, although possibly a forgery
since Polydus is portrayed as Factio Russata :-):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/polydus2.jpg

A small ivory figurine of a victorious charioteer holding a palm
branch (1st-2nd century CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/charioteerivory.jpg

A terracotta lamp with an image of a biga and victorious charioteer
with palm frond and prize weath in the Circus Maximus (30-70 CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/circuslamp2.jpg

A mosaic of victorious charioteer and team from Factio Praesina (3rd
century CE):

http://www.vroma.org/images/bonvallet_images/bonvall9.jpg

And, finally, an image of the temple of Magna Mater in whose honour we
celebrate these Ludi (from the Ara Pacis):

http://www.vroma.org/~mgrunow/images/magnamater.jpg

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Honoring Ceres - The Cerealia.
From:	"Lucius Arminius Faustus" <lafaustus@yahoo.com.br>
Date:	Wed, 09 Apr 2003 13:16:09 -0000

Wonderful, Propraetor! I´ve seen many texts, but none was so
didatical. I´ll use it extensivelly! I´m very happy for the
contribution, it will enlight our humble games mostly!

If I had realized that patronage before, I would have painted the
anphitheater on red and yellow tones!

Sure I can expect MASS participation of the citizens from the
Ancestor lands of Mother Spain on the Cerealia, can´t I? Sure I can!
We always can count with Hispania Mother!

Vale bene in pacem deorum,
L. Arminius Faustus
Senior Plebeian Aedile

CEREALIA LUDI 12-19th april
Chariot Races (Deadline 12 april)
Literary Contest (Deadline 15 april)
Gladiator Munera (Dealine 13 april)

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Hadrianus Rutilius Bardulus
<gens_rutilia@y...> wrote:
> Salvete omnes cives.
>
>
======================================================================
> MESSAGE IN ENGLISH LANGUAGE
>
> Next april 12th to april 19th, ancient Rome celebrated
the "CEREALIA"
> or "CERIALIA", the major festival dedicated to Ceres, Goddess of
> Agriculture and Protectress of Plebeians. She is also a patron
deity of
> Provincia Hispania of Nova Roma.
>
>
> You can read a small essay about Ceres at:
> http://www.geocities.com/gens_rutilia/Ceres_english.pdf
>
> Or its original in Castilian-Spanish at:
> http://www.geocities.com/gens_rutilia/Ceres_castellano.pdf
>
>
> Don't forget taking part at the LUDI CERERIS, contacting with the
> Plebeian Aedile Lucius Arminius Faustus, at lafaustus@y...
>
> Next days I'll post a Cerealia ritual for Religio Romana
practicioners.
>
>
======================================================================
> MENSAJE EN CASTELLANO
>
> El próximo 12 de abril, hasta el día 19, se celebraba en la antigua
> Roma la "CEREALIA" o "CERIALIA", la festividad principal dedicada a
> Ceres, Diosa de la Agricultura y Protectora de los Plebeyos. Ceres
> forma parte también de la Tríada de Dioses que tutela la Provincia
> Hispania de Nova Roma.
>
> Un pequeño ensayo sobre la Diosa Ceres se puede encontrar aquí
> (inglés):
> http://www.geocities.com/gens_rutilia/Ceres_english.pdf
>
> O su versión en castellano en:
> http://www.geocities.com/gens_rutilia/Ceres_castellano.pdf
>
>
> No olvidéis tomar parte en los LUDI CERERIS, contactando con el
Edil de
> la Plebe Lucius Arminius Faustus en lafaustus@y...
>
> En los próximos días enviaré un ritual religioso de la Cerealia para
> los practicantes de la Religio Romana.
>
>
======================================================================
>
> Valete optime,
>
> Hadrianus Rutilius Bardulus
> Flamen Cerealis Novae Romae
>
>
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] CEREALIA MUNERA - CALLING FOR FIGHTERS!
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucius=20Arminius=20Faustus?= <lafaustus@yahoo.com.br>
Date:	Wed, 9 Apr 2003 14:56:57 -0300 (ART)

The crowd gather on the Forum Romanum and see servants of the Aedile Faustus puttin a parchment next the acta diurna announcing on big red letters:

CEREALIA MUNERA IS COMING!

These citizens was the first six to subscribe on the Cerelia Munus. So the office of the Plebeian Aedilship is granting then SPECIAL TICKETS on the amphitheater, on the right next the Senate Chair and magistrates

NOW SEE THE FIGHTERS!

Marius the Lybian, a Samnite from Ambrosius Silvanius Virbius Epolone

Marcus Claudius Seneca (what a BIG name for a gladiator!), a Murmillo from Sextus Cornelius Cota

Poliorcetes, a Essedarius from Marcus Tullius Philippicae, welcome to NR!

Aeternus, a Samnite from Tiberius Appolonius Cicatrix, might Domini Factone, Lord of the Reds!

Robur, a Retiarius from the cunning Interpreter Tiberius Anneus Otho

Zenobia, a Retiarius from the most exalted priestess Patricia Cassia

The people start doing its guess. Some wonder about the fight technique each one will use. Other promises that will join the ludi and go to the hasta searching for a fighter. Others were wondering if the Cerealia would be a bloodlust. The coments starts at the Forum.

- Two retiarius and two samnites on just one day of subcriptions? Hum… promising!

- The essedarius can easily change the balance. I don´t know why the aedil has allowed these kind. They are too fast.

- Velocity is nothing comparing with courage and a good sword.

- But you know, Appolonius Cicatrix is on the games.

- Sure he feels a good fight ahead, oh yes, on the name of Iove.

One citizen, exalted upon the crowd, cries:

- And the THRACIANS? Everyone who knows what a ludus is simply KNOW the Thracians are the best!

- Baff! – says another getting close– I´m with the murmillos. They are pretty well balanced.

- Never, stupid barbarian! When I was a child on Preneste, I saw a fight between a thracian…

- Oh, there is your boring histories….

- It is real!

- Yes, just like the day you saw Venus taking a bath on the Via Appia… you are smoking too much those Serica´s herbs.

- How you dare!

- I dare, because you talk too much.

- Don´t push me!

- You scourge of the Forum!

- Psi, Psi, what is happening here? - a lictor walking has realized the heating of the arguing and spared the angry guys. – Fighting just on emails!

ROMANS, THERE STILL TIME TO JOIN CERELIA MUNERA!

The Servants of the Aediles put on the wall another parchment with the rules of the Gladiatorial Game.

- Another? – said a citizens.

- A revised version – laconicly answered the servant.

- And until when can I subcribe???

- Two days before the ides of april.

- Bloodly? – asked again the citizen.

- Well, you know Aedile Faustus … - said evasively the servant. - … he tells me anything!

- ´Sine Missione´ or ´Stanes Missione´?

The servant smiles and shakes its shoulders a little bit tired.

- I still have much more parchments to put on all urbs.

- You don´t know?

- I gain less than two sestertii per month, do you think I will study that stuff?!! Let me go, If I don´t spare these panflets over the urbs and get more subscriptions, the aedil will put ME to fight against these one!

LUDI CEREALIA

GLADIATOR GAME - RULES

"Our ancestors, O judges, ordained that the sacred rites of Ceres should be performed with the very strictest religious reverence and the greatest solemnity"

M. Tullius Cicero, Pro Flacco

OVERVIEW: For the greater glory of Nova Roma, enlightening of our people, and satisfaction of Mother Ceres, the Cerealia Ludi this year is granting a great Muneria Gladiatoria opened to all citizens.

DATES

14th april – First round

16th april – ‘Surprise’ round. The Aediles will make a secret preparation for this game.

The Aediles keep the right to add an extra round if necessary until 19th april.

SUBSCRIPTIONS

Until 13th april!!!!!

You must send a email to Aedile L. Arminius Faustus (lafaustus@yahoo.com.br) with the subject: ‘CEREALIA MUNERA’ with the following:

a) Roman Name

b) Province

c) Gladiator Name (please, choose new gladiators for this game! And don´t get so involved with them, he may not survive)

d) Type of Gladiator (Retiarius, Murmillo, Samnite, Thracian, Essedarius) – This will gaive a automatically natural technique to fight.

e) Fighting Chosen Technique (Aggressive, Defensive and Evasive) – the roman player must keep strict secret the way he addressed to its fighter and it will have bonus depending on the adversary. See the rules below.

“This fault appears not only in the matter of buildings, but also in the shows given by magistrates, whether of gladiators in the forum or of plays on the stage. Here neither delay nor postponement is permissible, but the necessities of the case require that everything should be ready at a fixed time,--the seats for the audience, the awning drawn over them, and whatever, in accordance with the customs of the stage, is provided by machinery to please the eye of the people. These matters require careful thought and planning by a well trained intellect; for none of them can be accomplished without machinery, and without hard study skilfully applied in various ways.”

Vitruvius Pollio, The Ten Books on Architecture

WINNERS

The winner will gain a spectacular reward and glory on a virtual monument on the Aediles Site.

GLADIATOR FIGHT - RULES

Many thanks to G. Galerius Peregrinator and P. Tarquitius Rufus.

I - Types of Gladiators

a) Retiarius: fast gladiator, almost naked, armed with a web and a

trident.

b) Murmillo : very common kind of gladiator, wore a helmet with

the form of a fish and a leather hood, galerum. He uses a heavy sword and a shield.

c) Samnite : carried a sword and shield. The samnite is dressed

like the ancient Samnite warriors defeated by Rome.

d) Thracian : very popular gladiator. Carried a round buckler

and a dagger.

e) Essedarius (chariot-fighter) : the essedarius comes in a bigae

and throws spears.

“By far the greatest sight in the procession was the captured armour, and so magnificent were the pieces considered that the gilded shields were distributed amongst the owners of the silversmiths' shops to adorn the Forum. This is said to be the origin of the custom of the aediles decorating the Forum when the symbols of three Capitoline deities are conducted in procession through the City on the occasion of the Great Games. Whilst the Romans made use of this armour to honour the gods, the Campanians, out of contempt and hatred towards the Samnites, made the gladiators who performed at their banquets wear it, and they then called them `Samnites.'”

Livy, History of Rome, BOOK IX: B.C. 321-304: THE SECOND SAMNITE WAR

II - FIGHTING TECHNIQUES:

a) AGRESSIVE FIGHT : this technique relies on heavy and violent

attacks caring little with defence.

b) EVASIVE FIGHT : this technique relies on speed, constant

escaping, and hit and run.

c) DEFENSIVE FIGHT : this technique relies on defence with

shield to block attacks. The fighter is very defensive, cautious, and fights with precision.

“ Aedilis praeter comitium ac forum basilicasque etiam Capitolium ornauit porticibus ad tempus extructis, in quibus abundante rerum copia pars apparatus exponeretur. uenationes autem ludosque et cum collega et separatim edidit, quo factum est, ut communium quoque inpensarum solus gratiam caperet nec dissimularet collega eius Marcus Bibulus, euenisse sibi quod Polluci: ut enim geminis fratribus aedes in foro constituta tantum Castoris uocaretur, ita suam Caesarisque munificentiam unius Caesaris dici. Adiecit insuper Caesar etiam gladiatorium munus, sed aliquanto paucioribus quam destinauerat paribus; nam cum multiplici undique familia conparata inimicos exterruisset, cautum est de numero gladiatorum, quo ne maiorem cuiquam habere Romae liceret “

G. Suetonius Tranquillus, De Vita Caesarum - LIBER I: DIVVS IVLIVS

III - BONUS:

This rule is like the scissor-paper-stone game, and depending on the manner of fighting the fighter gets a bonus.

a) AGRESSIVE has bonus over DEFENSIVE: the defensive fighter cannot stand all the blows from an agressive fighter

b) DEFENSIVE has bonus over EVASIVE: the defensive fighter is less effective than the aggressive and evasive, but his studied attacks can pick the evasive fighter in mid movement.

c) EVASIVE has bonus over AGRESSIVE: the agressive fighter who attacks all the time is open to hits from a fast evasive fighter.

IV - NATURAL TECHNIQUE AND CHOSEN TECHNIQUE:

The Murmillo and The Thracian are AGRESSIVE.

The Retiarius and The Essedarius are EVASIVE.

The Samnite is DEFENSIVE.

A fighter can choose a different technique for fighting to trap the adversary, and he is free to choose and his choice is kept secret. The natural technique and the chosen technique will be added up for bonus score.

V - THE WOUND RULE

A ´round´ of fight would start by throwing a dice for each player, then bonus is added. The higher value corresponds to the size of wound inflicted.

The fighter who is wounded three times falls. If the difference between total wounds is just one, the public gives mercy to the fallen warrior or thumbs down (or up).

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] New Nova Roman Citizen Introduction
From:	"Roger" <politicog@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 09 Apr 2003 18:35:26 -0000

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to introduce myself to the members of the list, as
a new Nova Roman citizen (the censors have recently sent confirmation
of acceptance of my citizenship application.

I applied under the name of Lucius Aeneas Apollonius
Constantius, however, I am in the process of changing my gens and
name to Lucius Quintius Constantius (pending the approval of the
paterfamilias of gens Aenea Apollonia).

I have always been fascinated by Roman history, and have done
some undergraduate work in history (though I have not finished my
degree). I have to confess that I am more interested in the
political and legal aspects of the Roman Republic than in the
religious aspects. I did take one year of Latin in high school, but
I am in desperate need of a refresher course.

I look forward to working in Nova Roma with you all, and working
with in the various comitia(e?). I love the idea of a restoration of
the ancient forms of the Roman Republic.

Lucius Aeneas Apollonius Constantius (soon to be Lucius Quintius
Constantius) of Lacus Magni


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] New Nova Roman Citizen Introduction
From:	PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com
Date:	Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:10:27 -0400

>From F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus to the new citizen L. Aeneas Appolonius Constantius. Salve.

Welcome to the glory and bloody sands of Nova Roma. May the gods grant you good fortune and health to you and yours. May they also grant you a good sense of humor and a strong digestive system as we are a lively, argumentative folk. Vale.


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Digest No 541 Re: Games and the ML
From:	"Lucius Equitius" <vergil@starpower.net>
Date:	Wed, 9 Apr 2003 16:46:26 -0400

Salvete Quirites,

Corrections to erroneous statements...
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 16:51:03 -0000
From: "Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Subject: Re: Games and the ML

Salve Paulinus,

the controvery is not so easy to explain. I'll try to do it with few
words.
Some days ago I and my Cohors organizing the Megalesia Ludi, sended
a will declaration...
<SNIP>
Someone, like Illustris Fabius Maximus, Cornelius Sulla,
Cincinnatus, attacked us about in a chronological order:

<SNIP>

Lucius Equitius: I didn't "attack" anyone. I requested the proper
magistrates veto the
"MEGALESIA LUDI: Joint Declaration II"

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/9328

"Pontifex Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur Omnibus Quiritibus SPD

I call upon the Consules, Praetores, Aediles Curules to veto the "MEGALESIA
LUDI: Joint Declaration II" in it's present form which expresses political
sentiments at the expense of the game's real intent. The Ludi are to please
the Gods, not men.
Let the call for the games (Ludi) be reissued in a more appropriate manner."

So, where is the Attack? There is none. Try being honest.

Fr, APulus:
- we are impious because we have corrupted the religio with
political statements (but Cincinnatus said "religion is political")

etc etc. [words words words]

Lucius Equitius: Excuse me, but you quote me incorrectly. I wrote, ""BTW
Though Nova Roma is not a 'theocracy', religious positions are political!
The Religio is part of the State! Go back and read the Constitution and
related documents"
Try being honest.

Religious *POSITIONS* are political. The Religio is part of the state, Read
the Constitution.
Also, just to be more clear. Magistries are *not* religious positions but
those who hold magistries must abide the Constitution in regard the Religio.
"A. The Religio Romana, the worship of the Gods and Goddesses of Rome, shall
be the official religion of Nova Roma. All magistrates and Senators, as
officers of the State, shall be required to publically show respect for the
Religio Romana and the Gods and Goddesses that made Rome great. Magistrates,
Senators, and citizens need not be practitioners of the Religio Romana, but
may not engage in any activity that intentionally blasphemes or defames the
Gods, the Religio Romana, or its practitioners."

Fr, APulus:
Keep attecntion, the words netween parenthesis are my opinions and
defences.

At the end, several Magistrates are disagreeing with this gentlemen
like several Nova Romans. However we're waiting the answer of the
Collegium of Pontiffs.

Lucius Equitius: You've already heard from the Pontifex Maximus and other
Pontificies. Some of the members for the college are unavailable at times.
What more do you want? Try being honest.
You've named Pontifex Q Fabius, L Cornelius and me as "attackers", then you
claim "several Magistrates" and "several Nova Romans" who disagree. In fact
there have been other magistrates who have either renounced your 'Joint
Declaration II' or have said it was wrong, a mistake etc.
Try being honest.

Fr, APulus:
I leave to Gods and Nova Romans to understand this controversy and
take an own position.

Paulinus, please, enjoy the Megalesia Ludi and not see this sad
controversy.

Vale
Fr, APulus Ceasar
Senior Curule Aedile

Lucius Equitius: It's only sad because you have not admitted your error and
made amends.

Valete, Pontifex L Equitius Cincinnatus Augur


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] 2nd Call for Ludi Cerealia Chariot Races
From:	"curiobritannicus" <Marcusaemiliusscaurus@hotmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 09 Apr 2003 21:29:18 -0000

Salvete omnes,

Nova Roma is certainly spoiled for Ludi this month. :-) The Ludi
Cerealia begin on 12 April, and Chariot races will be held. We are
now accepting entrants for these races - maybe this is a second
chance for all those who have been knocked out in the Ludi Megalesia!

On 13 April, the first round will be held. The semi-final will take
place on the 15th, and the final on the 17th.

If you wish to enter, please send an e-mail with "Chariot races" in
the subject heading to marcusscribonius@hotmail.com with the
following details:

Your name in Nova Roma,
The name of your driver,
Your tactics for the quarter/semi-finals,
Your tactics for the finals,
Which factio your driver will be racing for. (Blue, Red, Green or
White)

There are six tactics:
To hurry in the last laps,
To pass the curves closely the "spina" of the circus,
To support a constant pace,
To lash the rivals,
To push the rivals to the wall of the circus,
To hurry in the straight lines.

There is also the possibility of sabotaging an opponent's chariot.
You must say what factio you wish to sabotage, and there is a 45%
chance of success. If you fail, your attempt is uncovered, and you
will be banned from the race due to your dishonourable tactics. If
you succeed, one chariot from the specified factio will suffer an
accident. Of course, you will not be identified as the saboteur if
you succeed...

Subscriptions must be sent by the 11th April.

For the honour of your factio, hire a chariot!

Bene valete,
Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus,
Plebeian Aedile.


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] POSTED IN THE FORUM: MEGALESIA MVNVS
From:	"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Apollonius=20Cordus?=" <cordus@strategikon.org>
Date:	Wed, 9 Apr 2003 22:36:41 +0100 (BST)

A. Apollonius Cordus to Senator & Consular Q. Fabius
Maximus and all citizens and peregrines, greetings.

> Therefore as a privitus I have decided to sponsor a
> munus dedicated to the
> Magna Mater.
> It will be "sine missione," with the hope that She
> accepts this contest.

Normally I would not add too all your inboxes merely
to say 'bravo', but since I made no little noise
calling for constructive action from critics of the
desanguination (if I may invent the word) of the
games, it would be churlish of me not to acknowledge
constructive action when it appears.

My thanks and admiration to you, Senator, for your
public-spirited undertaking.

Cordus

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: CEREALIA MUNERA - CALLING FOR FIGHTERS!
From:	"caligodfather" <caligodfather@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 09 Apr 2003 20:36:33 -0000

Salve,
First, I'd like to publicly thank the Aedile Faustus for providing
such a warm welcome of myself and my gladiator Poliorcetes. Not to
mention the special seating! I recruited Poliorcetes on short notice
for the Cerealia Munera because I was in awe of his lightning quick
style and aptitude in a bigae. I'm not, however, too fond of his
name, which means 'City-Besieger' in Greek. Poliorcetes claims that
he took that name because it describes the way he will challenge his
opponents. And, not because he shares the same vices as the
original 'City-Besieger' Demetrias, the ancient king of Macedon! We
shall see.

Since my birthdate (Aprilis XIX) this year happens to fall upon the
end of Cerealia and because the Cerealia was a festival that my
Roman hero and Nova Roman namesake M.Tullius Cicero greatly revered,
I want to do everything I can to show Ceres the proper respect that
she is certainly worthy of.

With that said, may Ceres bestow her blessing on all of the
gladiators and their respective sponsors, and I hope that everyone
else will enjoy the Cerealia as much as I know I will. It is my
first festival after all!

Vale,
M.Tullius Philippicae of the California Provincia


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: New Nova Roman Citizen Introduction
From:	"caligodfather" <caligodfather@yahoo.com>
Date:	Wed, 09 Apr 2003 20:49:38 -0000

Salve Lucius,
Welcome to Nova Roma! I have also just recently received my
citizenship (last night to be exact), and I'm already loving it! I'm
sponsoring a gladiator and entered a chariot in the upcoming Ludi
Cerialia. Also, I'm a history major at my local university and very
close to attaining my degree (I walk this May but I technically
graduate next Fall). Wouldn't mind learning Latin either. Anyway,
just wanted to welcome you to Nova Roma since everyone I've run into
here has done me the same favor. Take care!

Vale,
M.Tullius Philippicae of California