| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Please email me when the Roman Times is published next. Thanks. |
| From: |
"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Hirtius=20Helveticus?=" <hirtius75ch@yahoo.de> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 03:12:44 +0200 (CEST) |
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Salve!
--- biojournalism <biojournalism@hotmail.com> schrieb:
> Would someone be kind enough to email me a notice
> when the Roman
> Times is published next?
Eh, Roman Time = Central European Time (CET). So why
should that be published then? It's one of the world
standart times...
Vale,
=====
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(Corippus, In laudem Iustini 3, 328)
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Please email me when the Roman Times is published next. Thanks. |
| From: |
"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Hirtius=20Helveticus?=" <hirtius75ch@yahoo.de> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 03:14:51 +0200 (CEST) |
|
Or did I miss something ;o)
Valete,
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] The Munus is Completed. |
| From: |
"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Sat, 12 Apr 2003 18:57:36 -0700 |
|
Avete Omnes,
The Munus is now completed. I would like to thank Senator Quintus Fabius Maximus for putting on these excellent games.
Also, I have a transcript of the games if anyone would like it.
Please email me privately at alexious@earthlink.net.
Respectfully,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Please email me when the Roman Times is published |
| From: |
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 09:13:54 +0200 |
|
Salve Honorable XX!
Roman Times is web-based newsletter that is produced by the "Officina
ad Consuetudines et Communicationes" (Relations and Communication
Office), which is a part of my Cohors Consulis. The present issue of
Romas Times is the fifth that is published and You can find it at:
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
>Would someone be kind enough to email me a notice when the Roman
>Times is published next? I'd like to read your wonderful
>publication, but don't know the Web site to click on. Or anyone can
>email me the Web site if it's up there already. Thanks.
>Octavia
>biojournalism@hotmail.com
--
Vale
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Please email me when the Roman Times is published |
| From: |
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 09:31:20 +0200 |
|
Salve Honorable Octavia Fabia Scriba!
Very sorry I forgot to include your name Soror! Can only say that I
am very tired after being out taking care of a "sad" kid last night,
I still have to struggle to get her" on her feet". I hope You will
forgive me for my mistake?
>Salve Honorable XX!
>
>Roman Times is web-based newsletter that is produced by the "Officina
>ad Consuetudines et Communicationes" (Relations and Communication
>Office), which is a part of my Cohors Consulis. The present issue of
>Romas Times is the fifth that is published and You can find it at:
>http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
>
>>Would someone be kind enough to email me a notice when the Roman
>>Times is published next? I'd like to read your wonderful
>>publication, but don't know the Web site to click on. Or anyone can
>>email me the Web site if it's up there already. Thanks.
>>Octavia
> >biojournalism@hotmail.com
--
Vale
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] A Link toa Dying Past |
| From: |
"Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 09:13:11 -0000 |
|
G. Iuslius Scaurus S.P.D.
Avete, Quirites.
I've tried to post a Roman-related link on this list every day. The
link I post today is only tangentially related to Rome, but represents
a genuine atrocity of war. The British Museum in the days before Gulf
War II set up a mirror of the Iraqi National Museum's website (the
site is in German):
http://info.uibk.ac.at/c/c6/c616/museum/museum.html
The National Museum was the depository of the largeest collection of
ancient near eastern artifacts in the world. Since Thursday its
contents have been looted, some stolen, others simply destroyed; even
the bank-vault-like doors of the most secure area of the museum, where
the most valuable treasures of Iraq were stored for safekeeping, were
forced and the contents looted. Virtually all the archaeological
evidence of the Roman provinces of Assyria and Mesopotamia has been
lost (only the inscription in Dura-Europos in Syria remains, for the
time being, safe). The Bush administration had assured international
societies of archaeologists, historians, and museum curators that the
National Museum in Baghdad would be guarded to prevent what has now
happened. The U.S. had enough troops to surround the Ministry of Oil
in Baghdad with orders to shoot looters on sight (last night I saw a
few of them being interviewed about their mission by the BBC at the
ministry). You can see the National Museum from the roof of the
Ministry of Oil; it's not that far away. A tank and a squad of
soldiers would have deterred the pillaging of the museum as effective
as it did that of the Ministry of Oil. The museum director and staff
had begged the U.S. commanders to detail a small force to deter
looting. But 8,000 years of human history carefully catalogued and
secured for historians to use to study the origins of human
civilization simply don't register in the priorities of the architects
of this war; the Ministry of Oil did. Take a good look at the brief
online presentation of a small fraction of its holdings. It may be
the last time anyone who can't pay hundreds of thousands of dollars on
the black market art trade will be able to see the treasures of
Mesopotamian civilization.
Valete, Quirites.
G. Iulius Scaurus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Please email me when the Roman Times is published next. Thanks. |
| From: |
"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 11:19:33 -0000 |
|
Salve Octavia,
at the address given you by the Illustrus Consul you can find the
last version published at 1st April. As chief of the Officiana
Consularis, I can say you we'll publish the new Roman Times in May.
You can receive the printable version of the magazine too ordering
free by the website.
Please, check the official website for the new version and thank you
for your attenction.
Vale
Fr. Apulus Caesar
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
<christer.edling@t...> wrote:
> Salve Honorable XX!
>
> Roman Times is web-based newsletter that is produced by
the "Officina
> ad Consuetudines et Communicationes" (Relations and Communication
> Office), which is a part of my Cohors Consulis. The present issue
of
> Romas Times is the fifth that is published and You can find it at:
> http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
>
> >Would someone be kind enough to email me a notice when the Roman
> >Times is published next? I'd like to read your wonderful
> >publication, but don't know the Web site to click on. Or anyone can
> >email me the Web site if it's up there already. Thanks.
> >Octavia
> >biojournalism@h...
>
> --
>
> Vale
>
> Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
> Senior Consul et Senator
> Propraetor Thules
> Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
> Civis Romanus sum
> ************************************************
> Cohors Consulis CFQ
> http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
> ************************************************
> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
> "I'll either find a way or make one"
> ************************************************
> Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
> Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] MEGALESIA COMBATS |
| From: |
"Alejandro Carneiro" <piteas@telefonica.net> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:03:50 -0000 |
|
Due to the lack of writers for the stories, these combats only have
one, the final, written for the honorable Marinus.
PLAYERS
----------------
Caius Argentinus Cicero
Gladiator : Cathedralis de Santiago
Type : Retiarius
--------------------
Livia Cornelia Hibernia
Gladiator: Lusitanicus
Type: Secutor
---------------------
Q. Salix Cantaber Uranicus.
Gladiator: Brutus Verbenatus Montanus
type: Homoplachus
-------------------------
L. Arminius Faustus
Gladiator: Iasion
Type: Thrax
-------------------
Tiberius Apollonius Cicatrix
Gladiator: Atrox
Type: Dimachaerus
-------------------
Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa.
gladiator: Gulo (the Wolverine)
type: thraex.
---------------------
Ennia Durmia Gemina
Gladiator: Anfioxus Lanceolatus
type: murmillo
------------------------
Franciscus Apulus Caesar
Gladiator: Japigius
Type: Dimachaerus
--------------------------
COMBATS
----------------------
Quarters
1st combat
Cathedralis de Santiago (Retiarius) - Lusitanicus (Secutor)
Result:
Winner: Lusitanicus
Cathedralis Survivor
----------------------------
2nd combat
Brutus Verbenatus Montanus (Homoplachus) - Iasion (Thrax)
Result:
Winner: Iasion
Verbenatus Montanus is dead
------------------------------
3rd Combat
Atrox (Dimachaerus) - Gulo (Thraex)
Result:
Winner: Gulo
Atrox is dead
--------------------
4th Combat
Anfioxus Lanceolatus (murmillo) - Japigius (Dimachaerus)
Result:
Winner: Anfioxus Lanceolatus
Japigius survivor
------------------------
Semifinals
1st
Lusitanicus (Secutor) - Iasion (Thrax)
Result:
Winner: Lusitanicus
Iasion survivor
-------------------------
2nd
Gulo (Thraex) - Anfioxus Lanceolatus (murmillo)
Result:
Winner: Anfioxus Lanceolatus
Gulo survivor
--------------------
THE GREAT FINAL
Lusitanicus (Secutor) - Anfioxus Lanceolatus (murmillo)
Result:
Winner: Lusitanicus
Anfioxus Lanceolatus survivor
In our first combat of the day, the murmillo Anfioxus Lanceolatus
is pitted against Lusitanicus, who fights in the secutor style.
The two combatants face the podium, saluting the master of the games
and the Chief Vestal... and now they square off!
Both men circle slowly on the sand, Anphioxus working out a loop
of his weighted sword. Lusitanicus ballances easily in middle guard
position, waiting. Now Anphioxus makes his move! The sword strikes
strongly, but Lusitanicus isn't there. He's danced back and now he
closes on the murmillo who has to fend off a flurry of sword cuts
with his shield! Butting Lusitanicus away, Anphioxus shortens
his grip on the shield and NOW HE HAS LUSITANICUS IN A BIND! The
secutor's sword is caught between his body and the rival sword, as it
presses ever closer to his chest! It looks like the end for
Lusitanicus here... But no! With a brutal knee to the groin he's
broken out of the clinch, and now Anphioxus is down on the sand!
Lusitanicus kicks the shield away, and places his sword point at the
throat of Anphioxus, who is still gasping, doubled over in
excruciating pain!
But the Chief Vestal is feeling merciful today folks! She's indicated
to the master of the games that Anphioxus is shall live to fight
another day. Lusitanicus nods, lowers his sword, and offers a hand
to help his vanquished opponent to his feet. Now Lusitanicus has
made sure that Anphioxus can stand, and he's letting him walk away
to the applause of the crowd.
The Megalesia Champion is Lusitanicus of Livia Cornelia Hibernia!!!!
Salix Galaicus
Scriba Primus Ludorum
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Iraqi National Museum |
| From: |
"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:18:51 -0700 (PDT) |
|
Salvete Quirites,
I Have just sent the following message to President
Bush.
Mr. President,
I'm shocked and saddened that US Forces took no action
to protect the Iraqi National Museum in Baghdad.
Relics that represent the common hieratage of all
Western nations have been looted in the greatest
cultural loss since the Library of Alexanderia was
lost in Ancient times. Our Failure to protect our
common history has placed an indelible stain on the
liberation of the Iraqi peoples.
I'm begging you to order that the strictest possible
export restrictions be placed on Iraq to prevent these
priceless relics from being smuggled out of Iraq, and
that you order our forces to lend all possible
assistance to the directors of the Iraqi National
Museum in recovering as much of the collection as
possible.
John Dobbins
Quirites,
I Urge each of you, espically those of you who hold
American Citizenship, to contact the Whitehouse on
behalf of the Iraqi National Museum before it's too
late to recover at least part of the collection.
President Bush's email address is
president@whitehouse.gov
L. Sicinius Drusus
Senator
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Iraqi National Museum |
| From: |
qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 12:22:24 EDT |
|
In a message dated 4/13/03 7:19:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
lsicinius@yahoo.com writes:
> I Urge each of you, espically those of you who hold
> American Citizenship, to contact the Whitehouse on
> behalf of the Iraqi National Museum before it's too
> late to recover at least part of the collection.
>
>
As L. Cornelius Sulla already knows, I sent a e-mail yesterday morning to the
Director of the Antiquities at the National Museum condemning the lack of US
response and urging that something be done.
Q. Fabius Maximus
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] CEREALIA CULTURAL CONTRIBUTION |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Lucius=20Arminius=20Faustus?= <lafaustus@yahoo.com.br> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:10:12 -0300 (ART) |
|
ABOUT THE KIDNAPPING OF CORE I sing the tears of Mother Ceres
Without sleep, mourning on Olympus High Peaks,
Missing beloved Core,
Kidnapped on the deep Hades
By the Invisible God in love
- Tricks of cheerful Venus
That not even brings happiness to the hearts
Of Mortals and Gods.
Sicily noble lands
Springly ever flourishing lands
Valley of the River Ena
Core and the nimphs used to play
Like infant kids
Their innocent tricks.Hear a strange noise?
The basement of Earth shakes
Open its dark mounth
Then from the deepest
Come the God gloriously
His chariot of blackest horses
Shining on ultmost bright goldStrong but soft arms caught the virgin
(Because father Pluto wasn´t so used
To court and love´s ways)
Why, Muses, the King of Hades
Tried a so desesperated measure?
He felt a pain on his heart
Neither nectar our sweetest ambrosia
Haven´t taken out that suffering as well.
Core! He painly desires his niece
Ceres should had undestand
(Thought the almigh Lord of the Deads)
For a brother a daughter she shouldn´t deny!As the golden chariot descended on darkness
Core, on despair, cried for the Mother.
But the Illustrious Klymenos touching the beloved girl
Felt a kind of peace and pleasure
Like a warm wind shaking the flowers
On the bessed valleys of Arcadia
Our when the nimphs sings
On the sacred Idean florest of the Mother of Gods.
While the cave faded the cries of the girl
Core realized a mourning on their ears
The Invisible King was talking to her
Strange speech for the Lord of the Deads´May you loves or hates me
I really don´t care now
On the name of my ciclopian helmet
Or even of the Stigian River
Ceres can do all noise on Olympus
Standing on the knee of Themis
Can even Iove threats me
Or the gods, on assembly, coming here
Triyng to change my mind
I shall not abandon you!
Be my Queen, Core beloved,
Like the your mother´s seeds
That sleeps waiting to grown
On the edge of my reign!´ Enjoy the Ludi! Vale bene in pacem deorum,L. Arminius FaustusPlebeain Aedile REMEMBER: Tomorrow the first round of the Gladiator Show!
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Iraqi National Museum |
| From: |
"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 10:28:10 -0700 |
|
Ave!
I also have written to the President as well.
Respectfully,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
----- Original Message -----
From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Iraqi National Museum
In a message dated 4/13/03 7:19:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
lsicinius@yahoo.com writes:
> I Urge each of you, espically those of you who hold
> American Citizenship, to contact the Whitehouse on
> behalf of the Iraqi National Museum before it's too
> late to recover at least part of the collection.
>
>
As L. Cornelius Sulla already knows, I sent a e-mail yesterday morning to the
Director of the Antiquities at the National Museum condemning the lack of US
response and urging that something be done.
Q. Fabius Maximus
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] CHAT ROOM (Marcus Octavius Germanicus) |
| From: |
"Quintus Lanius Paulinus" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:46:57 -0000 |
|
Salvete omnes,
Just a quick note for Marcus Octavius Germanicus; I had a problem
trying to log into the chat room in the NR Forum. On the log in page
I enter my name, password, the page begins to load returns to the
same log in page. Have there been any changes to the chat room entry
format while I was away? Thanks!
Quintus Lanius Paulinus
|
| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] CHAT ROOM (Marcus Octavius Germanicus) |
| From: |
Marcus Octavius Germanicus <haase@konoko.net> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 13:32:22 -0500 (CDT) |
|
Salve Quinte Lani,
This will happen if you have cookies disabled, or if you're coming
through some sort of proxy (intermediary) server that might cause
your IP address to change during a session. AOL users using the AOL
browser also have this problem.
I recommend you switch to a non-AOL browser if you're on AOL (use
Mozilla, Netscape, M*crosoft, or Opera), and be sure that cookies
are enabled.
Vale, Octavius.
> Salvete omnes,
>
> Just a quick note for Marcus Octavius Germanicus; I had a problem
> trying to log into the chat room in the NR Forum. On the log in page
> I enter my name, password, the page begins to load returns to the
> same log in page. Have there been any changes to the chat room entry
> format while I was away? Thanks!
>
> Quintus Lanius Paulinus
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
--
Marcus Octavius Germanicus,
Censor, Consular, Citizen.
http://konoko.net/~haase/
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Looting at the National Museum of Iraq |
| From: |
ames0826@cs.com |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 15:43:07 -0400 |
|
I am e-mailing you in connection with the recent looting at the national Museum of Iraq, which appears to be shaping up as one of the worst disasters of its type in history. The following points apply:
* Some of the looting was certainly done by desperate people looking for objects to sell for food, etc. And some of it was certainly done by people with underworld connections hoping to sell the works on the black market.
* While it is unfortunate that the museum was not properly guarded at the time, as a former military man I can somewhat imagine the turmoil in Baghdad at the time, the limited resources available to deal with it, and the simple probability that protection for the museum simply "fell through the cracks." It is spilled milk that no recriminations can unspill.
* However, a museum is a vital part of any culture's collective memory, particularly a culture as ancient as Mesopotamia/Iraq. This destruction therefore qualifies as a form of murder, or suicide.
* Since our military is currently responsible for what happens in Bachdad, we have a certain moral obligation to minimize the damage. Two ways we can do this are by closing Iraq's borders to the export of museum artifacts, and by making the recognition and confiscation of such artifacts a priority. We did much the same thing at the close of World War Two, whan looted art objects were found all over Germany.
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] The Online Temple of Ivno |
| From: |
"CAS" <cas_the_author@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:11:31 -0000 |
|
The Online Temple of Ivno
The online temple of Juno/Ivno is back up and functoning!
http://www.geocities.com/cas_the_author/temple/
Seia Silvania Atia
Iunonis Templique Sacerdotes.
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] The Online Temple of Ivno |
| From: |
"CAS" <cas_the_author@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:15:55 -0000 |
|
The Online Temple of Ivno
The online temple of Juno/Ivno is back up and functoning!
http://www.geocities.com/cas_the_author/temple/
Seia Silvania Atia
Iunonis Templique Sacerdotes.
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Taxes |
| From: |
"CAS" <cas_the_author@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 21:44:35 -0000 |
|
Salvete,
I am ready to pay my taxes, but have a couple of questions.
1. May I pay for more than one year at a time (say 2 or 3 years)?
2. Will I be informed by email when time to pay comes again?
3. Do I pay the same for my children as for myself (They are 4 and 6
years now)?
4. Do I pay the same rate for the minors as for myself?
I only found out that taxes were owed by wandering onto the NR
website.
I also need to have my email address officially changed.
Pax,
SSAtia
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: CHAT ROOM (Marcus Octavius Germanicus) |
| From: |
"Quintus Lanius Paulinus" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:38:51 -0000 |
|
Salve again Marce!
Thanks! I'm going through microsoft now, cookies enabled and chat is
working just fine now.
Regards,
Quintus Lanius Paulinus
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Octavius Germanicus
<haase@c...> wrote:
>
> Salve Quinte Lani,
>
> This will happen if you have cookies disabled, or if you're coming
> through some sort of proxy (intermediary) server that might cause
> your IP address to change during a session. AOL users using the AOL
> browser also have this problem.
>
> I recommend you switch to a non-AOL browser if you're on AOL (use
> Mozilla, Netscape, M*crosoft, or Opera), and be sure that cookies
> are enabled.
>
> Vale, Octavius.
>
> > Salvete omnes,
> >
> > Just a quick note for Marcus Octavius Germanicus; I had a problem
> > trying to log into the chat room in the NR Forum. On the log in
page
> > I enter my name, password, the page begins to load returns to the
> > same log in page. Have there been any changes to the chat room
entry
> > format while I was away? Thanks!
> >
> > Quintus Lanius Paulinus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
> --
> Marcus Octavius Germanicus,
> Censor, Consular, Citizen.
> http://konoko.net/~haase/
|
| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Mock Elections: Computer simulation? |
| From: |
"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Apollonius=20Cordus?=" <cordus@strategikon.org> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 23:45:04 +0100 (BST) |
|
A. Apollonius Cordus to Senator & Censor M. Octavius
Germanicus, Senator L. Sinicius Drusus, Rogator Q.
Cassius Calvus and all citizens and peregrines,
greetings.
I'm glad - though not surprised - to hear that our
honourable Censor could put together a simulated
election without any difficulty.
I'm also glad to hear that Rogator Cassius Calvus is
not feeling overworked. I hope this holds true for his
colleagues.
Both the Rogator and Senator Sinicius Drusus expressed
doubts about the usefulness of simulated elections as
opposed to 'real fakes', if I may so name the
alternative. I agree that it would not be easy for a
computer programme to simulate an election so well
that it would tell us who would actually win if the
election were really held - as the Rogator points out,
human eccentricities are hard to model, and as the
Senator says, we cannot use data from past elections.
But surely that's not what a simulation would be
intended to achieve? As far as I can see a
mock-election or simulation would have three goals:
1. To discover any circumstances in which the system
breaks down.
2. To see how effective the system is at reducing
run-off elections.
3. To see how closely the result corresponds to the
desires of the voters.
The best way to achieve 1 is to put the system through
as many permutations as possible - not just one test,
but many tests with many different inputs (many voters
vs. few, many candidates vs. few, one very popular
candidate vs. a close race), to make sure that nothing
is overlooked. To do that there would be no need for
the simulated voters to actually behave like voters -
their decisions could be randomly generated. A
computer simulation would be quite adequate for this.
To test 2 would again need lots of runs with different
variables, to see how often the system fails to fill
the vancancies. Again, there would be no need for the
voters to behave other than randomly.
To test 3 the approach must be to compare the result
of the election with the desires of the voters. To do
that with a 'real' mock-election one would have to get
voters to vote and also to list the candidates in
order of preference; then one would compare the result
with the majority of the preferences, to see how
closely they correspond (e.g. if the majority would
prefer to see A elected and, failiing that, B, then a
system which produced A would be good, one which
produced B moderate, and one which produced C
appalling). This would be much more difficult to do
with real voters than with computer voters, to whom
one could simply allot preferences at random and then
programme them to vote according to those preferences
in a certain way. Again, it would be desirable to run
the tests repeatedly, varying different factors.
I can't help feeling that if both the Rogator and the
Senator have a similar assumption which I don't have,
it is probably my fault rather than theirs, so I'd be
grateful if they would point out the fourth goal of a
simulation which would require voters to actually vote
in a realistic way.
Cordus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Chariot Races First Round! |
| From: |
"curiobritannicus" <Marcusaemiliusscaurus@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 23:25:05 -0000 |
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Salvete omnes,
The first round of the chariot races are here! 21 Chariots are
preparing to compete for the honour and glory of their factions and
patrons! However, not all the factions are out in equal force. The
Reds have massed many chariots, while the Blues, perhaps disheartened
with previous performances, have entered only two! Without further
ado.... The races!
*******************Race 1************
Name: Marcus Octavius Germanicus
factio: Albata
driver: Carolus Daemonicus
chariot: B.S.D. Liber
q/s tactic: hurry in last laps
fin tactic: pass closely the spina
Name: Titus Licinius Crassus
Factio: Veneta
Chariot: Orionis Draco
Driver: Equus Magnus
Quarters and Semi Strategy: (6)
Finals Strategy: (2)
Name: Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Factio: Russata
Chariot: Proeliator
Driver: Gustavus Barbarus
Tactics for quarters and semi-finals: 2) To pass the curves closely
the "spina" of the circus
Tactics for the final: 6) To hurry in the straight lines
G. Iulius Scaurus
Factio: Praesina
Driver: Cethinus Aspis
Chariot: Raptor Cruentus
Tactics for the quarter/semi-finals: To lash the rivals
Tactics for the final: To hurry in the last laps
Quite a lineup for this first race, with one chariot from each factio
competing. We have the veteran Carolus Daemonus, driving the chariot
B.S.D. Liber for his patron Marcus Octavius Germanicus and for the
honour of factio Albata. Titus Licinius Crassus has hired the fiery
Equus Magnus to drive his chariot Orionis Draco, for Veneta. Another
chariot that we've seen before, Proeliator, and its illustrous patron
Caeso Favius Quintilianus. And finally, driving for the greens of
Praesina, Raptor Cruentus, bought by Iulius Scaurus. But wait! The
Aedile, Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus, has shaken the white
flag allowing the competitors to go! And so they do! Proeliator
immediately takes the first corner as sharply as possible - By Ceres,
that was close! Proeliator's career nearly came to a halt there.
However, the risk has paid off - Proeliator is slightly ahead of the
others. Just behind, Raptor Cruentus is catching up on the
straights, while Orionis Draco and B.S.D. Liber are keeping a steady
pace behind. This pace is kept for another lap, but then Raptor
Cruentus makes its move! Only a small distance behind Proeliator,
Cethenus Aspinus uses his whip to lash the poor horses of
Proeliator! Distracted, they rear up, and Cethinus Aspinus is too
busy watching Proeliator to noticed he's about to crash! Proeliator
and Raptor Cruentis are hopelessly entangled, and B.S.D. Liber and
Orionis Draco cruise smoothly past them. Not wanting to take any
risks, they both take it fairly easy - no point taking risks with
only two left in the race!
1st: Accident!
2nd: Accident!
3rd: Orionis Draco
4th B.S.D. Liber
Qualify for the semi-finals: Orionis Draco and B.S.D. Liber.
**************************Race 2*********************
Name: Sextus Arminius Remus
Factio: Russata
Driver: Remus
Chariot: Fulminatora
Tactics for the Quarter and Semifinals: To support a constant pace
Tactics for the Finals: To lash the rivals
Name: Tiberius Annaeus Otho
Factio: Praesina
Chariot: Basilea
Driver: Septimus Raurax
Tactics for the quarters/semis: 6 (Hurry in straight lines)
Tactics for the finals: 1 (Hurry in the last laps)
Name: Marcus Octavius Solaris
Factio: Albata
Driver: Damnator
Tactics in Quarters/Semis: lash the rivals (4)
Tactics in Final: push the rivals to the wall of the circus (5)
Name:Gallus Minucius Iovinus
Factio: Veneta
Driver: Pontius Falx
Chariot: Ossifragus (the sea eagle)
Tactics for qual and semi: 2
Tactics for final:6
As the last of the wreckage from the previous race's crash is cleared
away, I can see that we once again have several veterans taking the
field. For Veneta, we have the renowned Ossifragus. For Albata, we
have Damnator, the chariot of Marcus Octavius Solaris. And bearing
the honour of Praesina is Basilea, the chariot of Tiberius Anneus
Otho. Also racing is Fulminatora, hoping to carry a red into the
semi-finals. The Aedile gives the signal for the race to start, and
quickly the chariots race off. As they do, a flag springs up from
the audience, saying, "Come on Veneta! We've got the organiser on
our side this time!" Yes, I can see Curio is definitely grinning at
that - he is indeed a supporter of Veneta. However, his face turns
to dismay as he gazes at the race track. Ossifragus has been trying
the same trick that Proeliator used to good advantage, but the
chariot is skidding slightly, meaning that he's lost time on the
others, rather than gained it. Meanwhile, Damnator has been trying
to catch up with the leading pair, Basilea, and Fulminatora, but
they're both staying clear of the famous Damnator and his cruel
whip. Basilea and Fulminatora are engaged in a deadly battle for
1st, but neither can gain an advantage. Meanwhile, Ossifragus
finally gets the hang of passing close to the spina of the circus,
and draws up beside Damnator. However, the infuriated Damnator whips
the horses drawing Ossifragus. They manage to stay on track, but the
shock causes them to fall behind once more. This done, Damnator
concentrates on trying to catch up with the others. It looks like
there is too little time, but then, catching everyone unawares,
Basilea's wheel shakes a bit, causing the chariot to go awry, and
then the wheel falls off completely! The enraged Praesina fans
shout "Sabotage! Sabotaaaaaaaage!!" And indeed this is what it looks
like, since Basilea is a well-made chariot. But no one know which of
the three others committed the crime! With Basilea out of the race,
Fulminatora easily takes first place, and Damnator takes second.
1st: Fulminatora
2nd: Sabotage!
3rd: Damnator
4th: Ossifragus
Qualify for semi-final: Fulminatora and Damnator
*******************************Race 3*************************
Name: Lucius Arminius Metellus
Factio: Russata
Driver: Aegeus
Chariot: Metella Maxima
Tactics for the Quarter and Semifinals: To hurry in the straight lines
Tactics for the Finals: hurry in the last laps
Name: Gnaeus Octavius Noricus
Factio: Albata
Chariot: Impactus Infrenatus
Driver: Concordius
Tactics in Quarters/Semis: 5
Tactics in Finals: 6
Name:Lucius Aeneas Apollonius Constantius
Factio: Praesina
Driver: Polycrates.
Tactics for quarter/semi finals: To support a
constant pace.
Tactics for finals: Push rivals to wall of the
circus.
Name:Titus Arminius Volusius
Factio: Russata
Driver: Lepidus
Chariot: Velox
Tactics for the Quarter and Semifinals: To lash the rivals
His/her tactics for the Finals: To lash the rivals
The last of the Venetas has raced, and now there are two Russatas
alongside the Praesina and Albata! The Albata fans will be glad to
see that the experienced Impactus Infrenatus is taking the field, but
Polycrates of the greens, and Velox and Metella Maxima of Russata
will be trying to stop him winning. There goes the signal, and there
go the chariots! Metella Maxima and Velox both get an early
advantage, and vie with each other for position. Polycrates keeps a
fairly constant speed, waiting for the best time to overtake the
others. Meanwhile, Impactus Infrenatus is hoping to push one of his
rivals out of the way. However, the driver, Concordius, is so busy
looking for such opportunities that he falls behind the other
chariots. Velox, noticing Metella Maxima pull ahead, whips one of
its horses. However, the tough creature takes no notice, and
continues racing. Metella Maxima moves over to the side a little,
hoping to avoid the whip of Velox. Meanwhile, Impactus Infrenatus
pulls up beside Polycrates, who, surprisingly, voluntarily pulls back
rather than be pushes into the sides of the circus! Polycrates
continues to look for his opportunity, but is now in fourth.
Impactus Infrenatus, continuing this wild dash, accelerates between
Metella Maxima and Velox. However, it is now that Concordius makes
his mistake, while wedged between two other chariots. He realises
that being between two Russatas is not good, so he moves the chariot
right, pushing into Metella Maxima. The horses, not used to this new
kind of tactic, are unable to stop the inevitable collision with the
wall. With Metella Maxima out, Velox uses Impactus Infrenatus'
instability to pull ahead, and Polycrates also sees his chance.
After having kept a constant pace throughout, he pushes forward,
passing Impactus Infrenatus at the last moment!
1st: Velox
2nd: Accident!
3rd: Polycrates
4th: Impactus Infrenatus
Qualify for Semi-final: Velox and Polycrates
*****************************Race 4**********************
Name: Titus Labienus Fortunatus
Factio: Praesina
Driver: Pelops Celer
Chariot: Volatilis
Tactics for the quarter/semi-finals: Hurry in the straight lines.
Tactics for the finals: Hurry in the straight lines.
Name: M.Tullius Philippicae
Factio: Albata
Chariot name: Alea Iacta Est
The name of your driver: Aurelius
Tactics for the quarter-finals: To hurry in the straight lines
Tactics for the semi-finals: To push the rivals to the wall of the
circus
Tactics for the finals: To hurry in the straight lines
Name: Spurius Arminius Carus
Factio: Russata
Driver: Carinus
Tactics for the quarter/semi-finals: To support a constant pace
Tactics for the finals: To support a constant pace
In this the fourth race, there is one of every factio except Veneta
taking part. For Russata, Carinus is racing. For Albata, the
symbolic Alea Iacta Est. And for Praesina, the veteran Volatilis,
under the patronship of Titus Labienus Fortunatus. Perhaps
Fortunatus is hoping that his name will apply to his chariot, yes?
And it looks like it might. Volatilis gets a good start, with Alea
Iacta Est just behind. Tailing them is Carinus, hoping for a good
opportunity to overtake. This race all seems to be about position,
and each chariot is doing their best to gain every valuable second
over the opponent. Alea Iacta Est gains a little ground on
Volatilis, with Carinus continuing to dog the tracks of Alea Iacta
Est. But now Aurelius, driver of Alea Iacta Est, manages a brilliant
manoeuvre. He whips the horses into a frenzy, making them push past
Volatilis, and then swings his chariot into Volatilis' path, forcing
Pelops Celer to stop. This done, he accelerates once more. Although
Pelops Celer gets the horses moving again expertly, the delay is too
much, and Carinus also overtakes. Alea Iacta Est, however, is
unbeatable, and takes first place comfortably.
1st: Alea Iacta Est
2nd: Carinus
3rd: Volatilis
Qualifies for Semi-final: Alea Iacta Est
************************Race 5
Name: Marcus Minucius Audens
Factio: Praesina
Driver: Pugio
Name of Chariot:Green Flash
Tactics: Hurry in last laps
Name: L. Arminius Cotta
Factio: Russata
Driver: Oros Cottiae
Tactics for the quarter/semi-finals: To push the rivals to the wall
of the circus,
Tactics for the finals: To push the rivals to the wall of the circus,
Name: Kaeso Arminius Cato
Factio: Russata
Driver: Drausius
Tactics for the quarter/semi-finals: To lash the rivals
Tactics for the finals: To hurry in the straight lines
There are two Russatas in this race, leaving the Praesina, Pugio,
feeling distinctly uneasy. Even worse, he starts between Oros
Cottiae and Drausius - what's the phrase? A rock and... Oh! There
they go! None of them seems able to get an advantage, and they're
racing in a uniform line. Perhaps the drivers were once
legionaries. Drausius, frustrated with his lack of immediate
success, starts to bring his whip to bear in Pugio, who controls his
team of horses, and stops the whip from having any large effect.
They continue racing, with Oros Cottiae simply awaiting the right
moment to strike. Halfway through the race, he decides that moment
is now. He moves inward, hoping to knock Pugio into Drausius.
However, Pugio, with amazing reflexes, professionally accelerates
away, letting Oros Cottiae crash into Drausius. Amazing! The two
Russatas have crashed and brought each other out of the race! Pugio
raises his hand, acknowledging the applause, and easily glides into
first place.
1st: Pugio
2nd: Accident!
3rd: Accident!
Qualifies for Semi-final: Pugio
**************************Race 6************************
Name: Philippus Arminius Remus
Factio: Russata
Driver: Remus Viliamus
Chariot: Unarmed and dangerous
Tactics for the quarter/semi-finals: To push the rivals to the wall
of the circus
Tactics for the finals: To push the rivals to the wall of the circus
Name: Manivs Constantinvs Serapio
Factio: Praesina
Driver: Italicus
Chariot name: Essedum
Your tactics for the quarter/semi-finals: To lash the rivals,
Your tactics for the finals: To hurry in the last laps,
Name: Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa
Factio: Albata
Driver: Draco Borealis
Chariot: Imperator Invictus
Tactics: To push the rivals to the wall of the circus (all rounds)
This last race should have a Russata, Unarmed and Dangerous, a
Praesina, Essedum, and an Albata, Imperator Invictus, driving.
However, earlier today, a man was found trying to damage Essedum.
After being told that he would be free to go if he told us of his
employer, it turned out that he was working for Philippus Arminius
Remus, the patron of Unarmed and Dangerous. Sir, we have decided to
take no further action, but you have been disqualified from this
race! Please do not consider using such dishonourable tactics in the
future! Consequently, this race is between only two chariots, a
green and white. And there they go! Immediately, Essedum starts to
lash the horses of Imperator Invictus. Angered, Draco Borealis,
driver of Imperator Invictus, responds by forcing his way closer to
Essedum, trying to push Essedum against the walls of the circus.
However, Essedum refuses to give ground, and they continue to make
their way round the track, both of them continuing to violently
attempt to put their opponent out of the race! At one point,
Italicus, Essedum's driver, lashes Draco Borealis on the hip!
However, the endurant Draco Borealis just ignores the pain, and slams
swiftly into Essedum. Caught unawares, Italicus falls sideways, out
of the chariot! Luckily, apart from some minor bruises, Italicus
seems to be fine. Without control, Essedum soon falls behind
Imperator Invictus, who takes first place!
1st: Imperator Invictus
2nd: Accident!
3rd: Convicted of sabotage
Qualifies for semi-final: Imperator Invictus.
The first round is over, quirites! We have nine qualifiers:
Orionis Draco, (Veneta)
B.S.D. Liber, (Albata)
Fulminatora, (Russata)
Damnator, (Albata)
Velox, (Russata)
Polycrates, (Praesina)
Alea Iacta Est, (Albata)
Pugio, (Praesina)
Imperator Invictus. (Albata)
Of these, there are 4 Albata, 2 Russata, 2 Praesina, and 1 Veneta.
On the 15th, these nine drivers will race to find the four
finalists! Don't miss it!
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Fw: [Explorator] explorator 5.50 |
| From: |
"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:29:23 -0700 |
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Fwd.
Vale,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
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For your computer's protection, Explorator is sent in plain text
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Thanks to Arthur Shippee, Bill Kennedy, Donna Hurst, Michael Oberndorf,
Chris Renaud, Hernan Astudillo, Mike Ruggeri, Louis A. Okin, Yonatan
Nadelman, Eleftheria Mantzouka, John McMahon, Leanne Archer,
W. Richard Frahm, Jennifer Wees, Dave Sowdon, and Karl Wittwer
for headses upses this week (a.a.h.i.h.l.n.o.o.)
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AFRICA, EUROPE, AND ASIA
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The major news of the week, of course, is that the Baghdad Museum
was looted this week ... here's various coverage:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2942449.stm
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=396743
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=540&e=8&u=/ap/20030412/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_plundered_treasures_7
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=570&ncid=753&e=4&u=/nm/20030412/sc_nm/iraq_baghdad_museum_dc
http://www.tercera.cl/lt/Articulo/0,4293,3255_5702_28456846,00.html (spanish)
http://www2.ocregister.com/ocrweb/ocr/article.do?id=34591§ion=NEWS&subsection=NEWS&year=2003&month=4&day=13
http://www.msnbc.com/news/899588.asp
.. and the museum in Mosul:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/story/0,11711,935267,00.html
.. and Basra (mentioned only in passing):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52059-2003Apr7.html
.. somewhat disturbing is the last paragraphs of this one:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/10/international/worldspecial/10BABY.html
.. and similarly disturbing are the implications of the information
in this one:
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/08/wur08.xml
Perhaps even more disturbing is the following tidbit, which appeared
*before* the museums were a target:
http://www.sundayherald.com/32895
.. and this one (guess who isn't a signatory to the Hague Convention?):
http://www.athensnews.gr/athweb/nathens.print_unique?e=C&f=13008&m=A11&aa=2&eidos=S
.. as mentioned before, a good place to monitor this sort of thing
is Francis Deblauwe's site:
http://cctr.umkc.edu/user/fdeblauwe/iraq.html
Al-Ahram has a couple of good items -- somewhat late -- on the threat
(the last one is by Zahi Hawass):
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2003/633/hr1.htm
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2003/633/hr2.htm
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2003/633/hr3.htm
Back to regular Exploratorish things ... it seems our ancestors
were rather more cannibalistic than previously thought:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/898430.asp
http://autofeed.msn.co.in/pandoraV15/output/A0A01EB7-972F-4586-9324-2D9AD5DF2039.asp
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2937187.stm
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993615
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/04/030411071024.htm
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/04/0410_030410_cannibal.html
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=570&ncid=753&e=6&u=/nm/20030410/sc_nm/health_madcow_dc
A 5000 b.p. dagger has been fished out of a German lake:
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=31&art_id=qw1049821560130B265&set_id=1
http://www.news24.com/News24/Technology/News/0,,2-13-1443_1344852,00.html
Tombs in County Meath betray a prehistoric knowledge of solstices and
equinoxes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2928043.stm
They're trying to straighten some of the Avebury stones:
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_768525.html
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/08/nave08.xml
Theories about the site of Moses' Mt. Sinai are in the press again:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/898379.asp
http://www.naplesnews.com/03/04/neapolitan/d931763a.htm
Some digs apparently are still going on in the Middle East:
http://www.gulfnews.com/Articles/news.asp?ArticleID=84042
Archaeological evidence of a sacrifice supports ancient claims that
Siena was (re)founded by the Romans:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-642214,00.html
Analysis of samples from Tel Rehov apparently provides evidence for
a united monarchy in the tenth century B.C./B.C.E.:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull%26cid=1049942359997
The Time Team folks are excavating a Roman Villa:
http://www.eveningstar.co.uk/Content/news/story.asp?datetime=11+Apr+2003+11%3A24&tbrand=ESTOnline&tCategory=News&category=News&brand=ESTOnline&itemid=IPED11+Apr+2003+07%3A24%3A46%3A450
A portrait bust of Plato languishing in a basement at UCBerkeley is
now considered authentic:
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/04/09_plato.shtml
http://www.timesstar.com/Stories/0,1413,125~1486~1316148,00.html
http://www.trivalleyherald.com/Stories/0,1413,86~10669~1319146,00html
The British Museum made public the discovery of a huge hoard (got it
right that time!) of Iron Age coins along with a gilded silver Roman
helmet:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/story/0,11711,931888,00.html
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=395096
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/08/ncoin08.xml
http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=42629&command=displayContent&sourceNode=42628&contentPK=5049931
Assorted items found by metal detectorists and others in Norfolk:
http://www.edp24.co.uk/content/News/story.asp?datetime=11+Apr+2003+06%3A16&tbrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=NEWS&category=News&brand=EDPOnline&itemid=NOED10+Apr+2003+18%3A18%3A30%3A943
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THE AMERICAS
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Archaeologists are trying to shed light on what really happened
to Jane McCrea:
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--janemccreamystery0409apr09,0,1531751.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire
.. and who is buried in Mead's tomb?:
http://www.lowellsun.com/Stories/0,1413,105~4746~1310272,00.html
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ALSO OF INTEREST
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Toolmaking appears not to be the sole preserve of the male of our
species:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/04/030407080401.htm
Is it the mummy of Ramses I or not?:
http://www.archaeology.org/cgi-bin/ads_1.pl?iframe
Outdoor life has a piece on how Oetzi and the Amesbury Archer
hunted:
http://www.outdoorlife.com/outdoor/newsandfacts/snapshots/article/0,13285,441818,00.html
The New York Times has a touristy thing on Seville:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/06/travel/06wdseville.html
Apparently the Middle Ages were rather warmer than today:
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/06/nclim06.xml
The latest stop in the 'return the Partheonon/Elgin marbles to
Greece' tour:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TRAVEL/04/10/wkd.acropolis.appeal.ap/
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--acropolisappeal0406apr06,0,5975507.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire
http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=DFFF43B3-4584-4C87-98A4F9A06D1E2D45
.. and Canada has joined the list of countries urging their return:
http://www.canada.com/montreal/news/story.asp?id=42D4FC00-2326-41F2-B9A2-D564C438A67A
The Harford Farm horde needs funding:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/england/norfolk/2930287.stm
.. as do the mosaics at Brading Roman Villa:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-637360,00.html
If only other metal detectorists had this woman's attitude:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/england/devon/2929951.stm
A committee is wrestling with the problem of what should be done
with human remains in museums:
http://www.butterfliesandwheels.com/articleprint.php?num=15
The manuscript for Beethoven's Ninth is up for auction:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/07/arts/music/07MANU.html
Going through old papers has cast some doubt on British claims to
have discovered Neptune:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2936663.stm
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MAGAZINES AND JOURNALS
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Social History of Medicine 16.1 (abstracts available):
http://www3.oup.co.uk/sochis/hdb/Volume_16/Issue_01/
A new issue of The Digger is available:
http://www.archaeo.freeserve.co.uk/THE%20DIGGER/The%20Digger28/index.html
Nature has a feature on the aqueduct at Aspendos:
http://www.nature.com/nsu/030407/030407-3.html
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ON THE WEB
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The New York Public Library's online picture collection is worth
a look (check out the folders ... nice pix of native Americans
in various periods):
http://digital.nypl.org/mmpco/browse.cfm
Saw this on the ANE list ... the Center for International Studies
at the University of Chicago is sponsoring a lecture series on
the Middle East and putting the talks up on the web in .ram format.
Among the talks are a pair by McGuire Gibson and Fred Donner on
"Iraq Before Saddam Hussein":
http://internationalstudies.uchicago.edu/events.html
A pile of old maps of Japan have been put online ... definitely worth
a look:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/10/technology/circuits/10mapp.html
http://www.davidrumsey.com/japan/
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NEW ONLINE BOOKS
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Daniel Wilson, *The Lost Atlantis and Other Ethnographic Studies*:
http://www.canadiana.org/cgi-bin/ECO/mtq?doc=41556
*Aristotle on the Art of Poetry* (Bywater trans.):
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/gutbook/lookup?num=6763
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CRIME BEAT
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Police have recovered some frescoes stolen from Pompeii, but they
are very damaged:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/896872.asp
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-2541920,00.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/09/international/europe/09BRIE2.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/08/international/europe/08POMP.html
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-Italy-Stolen-Frescoes.html
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2003%2F04%2F09%2Fwfresc09.xml (nice pic)
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AT ABOUT.COM
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Ancient History Guide N.S. Gill has a piece on the age of emperors
at accession:
http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/bl/bl_ageataccession.htm
Archaeology Guide Kris Hirst continues her series on the history
of archaeology:
http://archaeology.about.com/cs/18th19thcentury/a/history2.htm
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BOOK REVIEWS
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T. Scanlon, *Eros and Greek Athletics*:
http://www.the-tls.co.uk/this_week/story.asp?story_id=25875
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PERFORMANCES
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Antony and Cleopatra (New York):
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/10/arts/music/10ANTO.html
Women of Lockerbie:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/10/arts/theater/10WOME.html
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DON'T EAT THAT ELMER (A.K.A. CUM GRANO SALIS)
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Since the Pravda links from last week were so popular (8^)) ... here's one
I left out ... it includes ancient Egyptian accounts of UFO's:
http://english.pravda.ru/society/2003/04/05/45663.html
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EXHIBITIONS
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The Bull in the Mediterranean World: Myth and Legends (Athens):
http://www.athensnews.gr/athweb/nathens.prnt_article?e=C&f=13008&t=04&m=A39&aa=1
Egypt Reborn: Art for Eternity (Brooklyn):
http://www.msnbc.com/news/898920.asp
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/11/arts/design/11GLUE.html
The Mysterious Bog People (Quebec):
http://www.dallasnews.com/travel/mexcc/stories/041303dntrabog.9b25.html
The Horse and Rider (Moscow):
http://www.tmtmetropolis.ru/metropolis/stories/2003/04/11/102.html
The Way of the Samurai:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/07/arts/07ARTS.html (nice pic upper right; scroll down for article)
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CLASSICIST'S CORNER
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This year's Runciman Lecture was on "What Have the Spartans Done
For Us?":
http://www.athensnews.gr/athweb/nathens.prnt_article?e=C&f=13007&t=04&m=A40&aa=1
Perfess'r Harris:
http://www.realchangenews.org/issue/current/classics/classics_corner.html
Not sure what to read into this one ... the petition protesting
the closure of Classics at Queen's (Belfast) apparently ranks behind
a tuck shop robbery but ahead of a dog poop problem:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=396474
ClassCon (and ClassMisspelling) in a panel discussion on war
reparations:
http://www.chronicle.duke.edu/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/04/08/3e92b6e626fe0
Peter Jones:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/article.php3?table=old§ion=current&issue=2003-04-12&id=3000
Dot Wordsworth:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/article.php3?table=old§ion=current&issue=2003-04-12&id=2998
Akropolis News in Classical Greek:
http://www.akwn.net/
Radio Finland's Nuntii Latini
http://www.yle.fi/fbc/latini/trans.html
Radio Bremen's Der Monatsrückblick - auf Latein
http://www.radiobremen.de/online/latein/
U.S. Weather in Latin:
http://latin.wunderground.com/
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OBITUARIES
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Leon Levy (Philanthropist):
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/08/obituaries/08LEVY.html
http://www.forbes.com/2003/04/07/cz_rl_0407levy.html
George Cornell (Benefactor):
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/state/orl-loccornell09040903apr09,0,2634172.story?coll=orl-news-headlines
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REPEATS
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Dancing Satyr:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/02/arts/02ARTS.html (scroll down)
http://www.athensnews.gr/athweb/nathens.prnt_article?e=C&f=13008&t=04&m=A40&aa=1
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[Nova-Roma] Fw: [Explorator] Explorator 5.50 (extra) |
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From: David Meadows
To: explorator
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 10:00 AM
Subject: [Explorator] Explorator 5.50 (extra)
Since I'm getting some flak about implications of the way I presented some articles in this a.m.'s Explorator, I think it is salutary (perhaps) to present some material about the American Council for Cultural Policy. Folks who are interested in the group may consult (n.b. I present these in no particular order and with no purpose other than information; some of the articles do seem contradictory):
http://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/article.asp?idart=10176
http://www.artforum.com/news/week=200315
http://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/article.asp?idart=10250
http://www.newageinfo.net/cgi-bin/editor/print.pl?article=2418
http://www.iht.com/articles/81293.html
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/01/sprj.irq.antiquities/
Some articles from Google's cache:
http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:BLkw293e3vwC:quickstart.clari.net/qs_se/webnews/wed/db/Qus-iraq-antiquities.RUXE_CDO.html
http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:coiXcXVYJkEC:www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/030210/misc/10iraq.htm
I do note that the ACCP is signatory to ASOR's statement on Iraq:
http://www.asor.org/policy2.htm
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David Meadows, dmeadows@idirect.com on 04/13/2003
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