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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Flora and Her Festival (Floralia)
From:	Iulia Vopisca <iulia_uopisca@yahoo.com>
Date:	Sun, 27 Apr 2003 21:37:25 -0700 (PDT)

http://www.aztriad.com/flora.html Salvete Omnes .... The page linked above is in honor of Flora and Her beautiful festival in the days immediately upon us.

PACEM VENIAMQVE DEORVM TIBI EXOPTET IVLIA VOPISCA

http://www.aztriad.com/cybeleix.html

* MATRIS DEVM MAGNAE IDEAEAE SACERDOS FILIAQVE *

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Religion in Rome Carthage
From:	"Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 08:29:07 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to an essay on "Religious Life in Roman Carthage, c. 180
CE":

http://www.ccsr.ca/csbs/Rives-Carthage.PDF

The essay is by Prof. James B. Rives (York Univ.), the author of
_Religion and Authority in Roman Carthage from Augustus to
Constantine_ (Oxford, 1995).

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Religion in Roman Carthage
From:	"Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 08:30:18 -0000


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Problems with PayPal
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 08:44:29 -0000

Salvete Omnes,

Thank very much to Illustri Fabius Quintilianus, Fabius Maximus,
Salix Cicero and Octavius Noricus for the help, I appreciated it.
I have asked to my Legatus Internis Rebus in Provincia Italia too
and I think this way is the most easy and economical way for me.
BTW if he can't pay for me, I'll ask you help again.
Thank you again.

Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Seniro Curule Aedile
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Gnaeus Octavius Noricus
<cn.octavius.noricus@g...> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2003 10:05:44 -0000, Franciscus Apulus Caesar wrote:
> > Salvete Omnes,
> >
> >I don't know to who I have to ask, please help me.
> >I have a problem with PayPal paying the nova roman taxes.
>
> Salve!
>
> I am no paypal expert, but I can help you if paypal doesn't work.
>
> I have read two offers by citizens to pay for you. If you do not
want
> to have someone else paying for you, you can always send your
taxes
> in cash to me, and I will book them and forward them to the
central
> treasury.
>
> Please let me know if that would be an acceptable solution for you.
>
> --
> Optime vale!
>
> Gnaeus Octavius Noricus
> Treasury Quaestor
> cn.octavius.noricus@g...
> 27.04.2003 22:34:17


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Suicide by Assassination?
From:	"aerdensrw" <aerdensrw@yahoo.com>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:46:35 -0000

Did anyone else see the fascinating show on the Discovery Channel
last night, called 'Who Killed Julius Caesar?'

I really enjoyed it, and the investigator's theory shows Caesar's
assassination from an entirely new and intriguing angle.

My husband thinks Caesar would naver have allowed himself to be
killed, because he was planning a sizable campaign to Parthia at the
time of his murder. I think it's hard to know for sure, because of
some of the sources quoted. Suetonius, I think, doesn't have the
most sterling of reputations when it comes to historical accuracy.

Still, I enjoyed this program quite a lot.

Renata Corva


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Suicide by Assassination?
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 13:10:56 -0000

Salve Renata,

I'll try and catch that program again. Unfortunately there was not
much notice given about it.

Without trying to shoot myself in the foot by not seeing this
program, I find there are many articles on lately that are trying to
shed more light and interest in historical occurrances with
conspiracy type theories. The last one I saw on Rome was last fall
about the fire of Rome. One German professor was trying to illustrate
that Christians may well have had a part in starting the fire. That,
a suicidal Caesar etc. are in my opinion shear speculation. Without
actually building a time machine, sending back forensic experts,
Latin speaking classic scholars, psychologists and fire investigators
to ancient Rome such ideas will always be in thr realm of speculation
only. On the other hand these programs do often rekindle interest and
debate, even among the lay people which is good for us.

Respectfully,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "aerdensrw" <aerdensrw@y...> wrote:
> Did anyone else see the fascinating show on the Discovery Channel
> last night, called 'Who Killed Julius Caesar?'
>
> I really enjoyed it, and the investigator's theory shows Caesar's
> assassination from an entirely new and intriguing angle.
>
> My husband thinks Caesar would naver have allowed himself to be
> killed, because he was planning a sizable campaign to Parthia at
the
> time of his murder. I think it's hard to know for sure, because of
> some of the sources quoted. Suetonius, I think, doesn't have the
> most sterling of reputations when it comes to historical accuracy.
>
> Still, I enjoyed this program quite a lot.
>
> Renata Corva


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Dentistry in Ancient Rome
From:	"Liz" <paganliz@lycos.com>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 13:41:48 -0000

Salve,
I have a friends who is studying to be a dental hygenist. She would
like to write a paper on historic dentinstry and would like to know if
anyone in Nova Roma can help steer her in the right direction. Any
help would be highly appreciately.
Thanks,
Prima Libera Livia


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Dentistry in Ancient Rome
From:	Gnaeus Octavius Noricus <cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:29:17 +0200

On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 13:41:48 -0000, Liz wrote:
> Salve,
>I have a friends who is studying to be a dental hygenist. She would
>like to write a paper on historic dentinstry and would like to know
>if
>anyone in Nova Roma can help steer her in the right direction. Any
>help would be highly appreciately.
>Thanks,
>Prima Libera Livia

The following book might be useful:
"History of Dentistry" by Vincenzo Guerini
Publisher: Aperture; (June 1977), seems to be out of print
ASIN (Amazon.com Standard Item Number): 0893411418

It's mentioned in "Ancient Inventions" (P. James & N. Thorpe) on the
subject of Etruscan dentures.

--
Optime vale!

Gnaeus Octavius Noricus
cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at
28.04.2003 16:19:36


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Dentistry in Ancient Rome
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 07:44:13 -0700

Avete Omnes,

Please feel free to look at some of these web pages:

http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/medicine/

http://www.freehomepages.com/maddie/Babylon.html (A bit early but it might help)

http://www.dental-site.itgo.com/grecoroman.htm

http://www.athenapub.com/excavhst.htm

Hope this helps,

Respectfully,

Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix

----- Original Message -----
From: Gnaeus Octavius Noricus
To: nova-roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Dentistry in Ancient Rome

On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 13:41:48 -0000, Liz wrote:
> Salve,
>I have a friends who is studying to be a dental hygenist. She would
>like to write a paper on historic dentinstry and would like to know
>if
>anyone in Nova Roma can help steer her in the right direction. Any
>help would be highly appreciately.
>Thanks,
>Prima Libera Livia

The following book might be useful:
"History of Dentistry" by Vincenzo Guerini
Publisher: Aperture; (June 1977), seems to be out of print
ASIN (Amazon.com Standard Item Number): 0893411418

It's mentioned in "Ancient Inventions" (P. James & N. Thorpe) on the
subject of Etruscan dentures.

--
Optime vale!

Gnaeus Octavius Noricus
cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at
28.04.2003 16:19:36


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Dentistry in Ancient Rome
From:	"gaiuspopilliuslaenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:24:28 -0000

I dislike going to the dentist nowadays. What must it have been
like 2000 years ago?

"Well you have a bad cavity...just let me get in there with this
gladius"

Valete,
Gaius Popillius laenas

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "L. Cornelius Sulla"
<alexious@e...> wrote:
> Avete Omnes,
>
> Please feel free to look at some of these web pages:
>
> http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/medicine/
>
> http://www.freehomepages.com/maddie/Babylon.html (A bit early but
it might help)
>
> http://www.dental-site.itgo.com/grecoroman.htm
>
> http://www.athenapub.com/excavhst.htm
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gnaeus Octavius Noricus
> To: nova-roma@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 7:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Dentistry in Ancient Rome
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 13:41:48 -0000, Liz wrote:
> > Salve,
> >I have a friends who is studying to be a dental hygenist. She
would
> >like to write a paper on historic dentinstry and would like to
know
> >if
> >anyone in Nova Roma can help steer her in the right direction.
Any
> >help would be highly appreciately.
> >Thanks,
> >Prima Libera Livia
>
> The following book might be useful:
> "History of Dentistry" by Vincenzo Guerini
> Publisher: Aperture; (June 1977), seems to be out of print
> ASIN (Amazon.com Standard Item Number): 0893411418
>
> It's mentioned in "Ancient Inventions" (P. James & N. Thorpe) on
the
> subject of Etruscan dentures.
>
> --
> Optime vale!
>
> Gnaeus Octavius Noricus
> cn.octavius.noricus@g...
> 28.04.2003 16:19:36
>
>
>
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Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Gynaecology in Ancient Rome?
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:37:07 +0200

Salve Gaius Popillius Laenas,

< I dislike going to the dentist nowadays. What must it have been
< like 2000 years ago?
<"Well you have a bad cavity...just let me get in there with this
< gladius"

If you think the dentist is bad, the gynaecologist is much worse! I don't
even want to think about 2000 years ago :-p

Vale,
Diana Moravia

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Dentistry in Ancient Rome
From:	"Charlie Collins" <cotta@spamcop.net>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:41:25 -0500

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Sextus Cornelius Cotta

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Roman Days 2003: Rooms reserved for Nova Romans
From:	"pjane" <pcassia@novaroma.org>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:05:03 -0000

Greetings!

As those of you who've been around a while know, the fine folks at
Legio XX put on an annual "Roman Days" event in Maryland, and over
the years it's become a good place to meet your fellow Nova Romans as
well.

This year it's June 7 and 8 at the same location, the Marietta
Mansion in Glenn Dale, Md., not too far from Washington, D.C. Events
include military demonstrations, vendors, Roman cooking
demonstrations, a Roman fashion show, and children's activities. Full
details on the event are here: http://www.larp.com/legioxx/rdays.html

Cassius and I are attending as usual, and I've reserved a small block
of rooms for Nova Romans (and their friends!) at the nearby Days Inn
in Lanham, Md. They've promised us a maximum rate of $71.10 per night
(some nights may be less, depending on the kind of room you choose).

If you'd like to take advantage of this, call 1-800-325-2525 and
reserve the room using this confirmation number: 50428395.

Hope to see you there!

Patricia Cassia


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] CNN Article
From:	"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:02:40 -0700

Ave,

Please browse to the end of the article about the section on Rome.

You can go here to view the entire article:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/28/apontv.pbsgetsreal.ap/index.html

Vale,

Sulla

PBS pursues reality with 'Manor House'
Network also trying 'Warrior Challenge'
Monday, April 28, 2003 Posted: 11:35 AM EDT (1535 GMT)

The family of "Manor House": the wealthy Olliff-Coopers and their many servants.

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NEW YORK (AP) -- No Monica Lewinsky or pig rectums!

That's a good first step in explaining how "reality" shows on public television differ from commercial network fare like "Mr. Personality" and "Fear Factor."

But PBS' newest offerings -- "Manor House" and "Warrior Challenge" -- have much more to recommend them than an absence of micro-celebs and yucky menu items.

Even before it was called PBS, public television claimed the high end of unscripted television with series like "An American Family," which brought the world the Loud clan 30 years ago.

The stage was set for "Manor House" much more recently with the success of "1900 House" and "Frontier House," which won the ultimate validation: They were spoofed on "The Simpsons" in an episode where Homer and his family, forced out of their own home by termite infestation, signed on for "The 1895 House" just to have somewhere to live.

"Manor House" resides in a fully restored, 109-room Scottish mansion, where circa 1905 Edwardian life is re-created by volunteers.

These 19 British participants were cast in the various hierarchical roles of such a hoity-toity household. John and Anna Olliff-Cooper (the "Lord" and "Lady" who in real life are a businessman and a doctor) live the lush life. But things aren't so rosy for the servants, particularly 18-year-old Lucy Garside, the scullery maid (in real life a waitress) who bewails her workload and lowly status.

While hewing to rigorous rules and social customs of that bygone day, "Manor House" participants must also overcome their 21st-century sensibilities. (Just one bath a week for the servant staff?! Ewwwww!)

A 'personal connection,' a 'history lesson'
"Manor House," like its predecessors, animates history with a real-life demonstration that is further energized by its participants' responses to their trip into the past. The six-episode series premieres this week beginning Monday night on most PBS stations (check local listings for day and time).

The butler gives a straight-razor shave to the man of the house.
"We are trying to look at a time and place by putting people in that environment to learn about it," explains Beth Hoppe, the series' executive producer. "Then we get a modern drama by looking at how the people cope with it.

"You get a personal connection, while at the same you're getting a terrific sort of history lesson," adds John Wilson, PBS' senior vice president of programming.

Another chapter of what PBS calls "hands-on history" will dwell in this summer's production of "Colonial House." Some two dozen volunteers travel back to 1628 for a series that will air next season.

For something a little more sporting (think "Fear Factor" with scholarship), "Warrior Challenge" dares policemen, soldiers and athletes to see if they can measure up to their counterparts from 2,000 years ago.

Can today's champions fill the sandals or sabatons of long-ago centurions, knights, Vikings and gladiators? This four-part series begins Tuesday, May 6, at 9 p.m. (check local listings).

2,000-year-old training
Not only a lot of fun but also historically accurate, "Warrior Challenge," like "Manor House," keeps its emphasis squarely on the era, not the stunt. And with wealth and fame neither promised nor implied, these shows are populated by people who are simply curious, Hoppe says. "They are interested in exploring a certain time period, not in being on television."

The first "Warrior Challenge" welcomes eight Americans and Brits to a Roman barrack along Hadrian's Wall, which, built in the second century, stretches coast to coast across Britain to defend the Roman Empire's northern boundary.

[The people on PBS' reality shows] are interested in exploring a certain time period, not in being on television.
-- Producer Beth Hoppe

In a setting that seems unchanged since a Caesar's rule, we watch as fresh recruits are assigned their armor and weapons, along with their garb, which includes diaperlike Roman underwear.

They train in ancient warfare. They march with their 60-pound kits. They cook their meals (one specialty: fatback and lentils).

At last, they compete in several events, including who can confiscate more contraband items from "native smugglers." (A Roman soldier's main job along Hadrian's Wall was playing customs official.) A more exciting contest: storming past the other team to raid the gatehouse.

The winners? All of the recruits, who, after their crash course, can gratefully leave ancient warfare to the ancients.

"We've gained a lot more respect for what they had to go through," say Sean Guillory, an engineer in the U.S. Air Force.

Without having to wear that funky underwear, so will viewers.

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Feriae Latinae
From:	Fortunatus <labienus@novaroma.org>
Date:	Mon, 28 Apr 2003 18:50:10 -0500

T Labienus Fortunatus Consul Quiritibus salutem plurimam dicit

As decided by the Senate in Ianuarius, today is the celebration of the
Feriae Latinae. In antiquity, the consules would sacrifice an ox to
Iuppiter Latiaris on the Alban mount on the chosen day. According to
legend, the festival was instituted by Tarquinius Superbus to celebrate
the alliance he forged between Rome and the Latin league. However,
there is evidence that he simply altered a much older Latin festival.
It also marked the beginning of the military season, as the consules
were not allowed to take the field until they held the Feriae Latinae.

To mark the occasion, I have offered incense, wine, and spelt cakes to
Iuppiter Latiaris for the health and welfare of the Res Publica and the
Senate of Nova Roma. Capite velato, I invited the God to attend the
rite with the words:

"Deus Iuppiter Latiaris, as it is proper to offer to you on the
celebration of the Feriae Latinae for the health of the Res Publica and
the Senate, for this I offer a sacrifice of incense, wine, and spelt
cakes to you. I pray to you so that you may be willingly propitious to
the health of the Res Publica and Senate, and so that you may accept
this sacrifice of incense and wine."

Receiving no ill omens, I washed my hands and offered first
frankincense, then good red wine, then three spelt cakes with the words:

"Deus Iuppiter Latiaris, for the health of the Res Publica and Senate
shall you be honored with incense. Make yourself willingly propitious
to the health of the Res Publica and Senate."

"Deus Iuppiter Latiaris, for the same reason shall you be honored with
this wine. Make yourself willingly propitious to the health of the Res
Publica and Senate."

"Deus Iuppiter Latiaris, for the same reason shall you be honored with
these spelt cakes. Make yourself willingly propitious to the health of
the Res Publica and Senate."

Then, I kissed my right hand as a sign of reverence and declared the
ritual to be finished.

My toga cooperated for once. I took this as a good sign since it's a
truly rare occurrence. I made no mistakes during the rite, and I
observed no ill omens. The next two days are dies religiosi, or days on
which public business other than religious festivals should be suspended
if at all possible.

Valete