| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Digest Number 569 - Debt Humiliation |
| From: |
"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 05 May 2003 00:29:22 -0000 |
|
Salve G. Iulius Scaurus,
Looks like you have your work cut out for you. If I can be of any
assistance let me know. It is hard to have a legal system with
missing laws and edicts is it not?
Vale,
Q. Cassius Calvus
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory Rose" <gfr@i...> wrote:
> G. Iulius Scaurus Q. Cassio Calvo salutem dicit.
>
> Salve, Q. Cassi.
>
> In the process of indexing the body of NR law as a praetorian
scriba I
> have discovered that the lists of edicta and decreta in the
Tabularium
> are not exhaustive. There are edicta and decreta to which there is
> allusion in other legal documents, but no listed text, and links to
> text which do not work (and on this evidence I cannot rule out the
> possibility that there have been edicta to which there is no extant
> allusion in other texts and which are unlisted in the Tabularium,
but
> neither can I confirm it). I would not rely on absence from the
> Tabularium as evidence that no edictum existed if an officeholder
> claimed otherwise. Once the indexing of all the extant texts in the
> Tabularium is complete I shall review the main list archives for any
> legal texts which have been posted there but not preserved in the
> Tabularium, index them, and present the texts of such cases to Gn.
> Salix Astur for inclusion in the Tabularium. In any enterprise as
> expansive as the body of NR law and in we are dependent on volunteer
> labour oversight of entry is to be expected occasionally.
>
> Vale.
>
> G. Iulius Scaurus
> Scriba in cohorte Praetoris Gn. Salicis Asturis
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Archives (WAS: Debt Humiliation) |
| From: |
"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Apollonius=20Cordus?=" <cordus@strategikon.org> |
| Date: |
Mon, 5 May 2003 01:44:15 +0100 (BST) |
|
A. Apollonius Cordus to C. Iulius Scaurus & all
citizens & peregrines, greetings.
> Once the indexing of all the extant texts in the
> Tabularium is complete I shall review the main list
archives for any
> legal texts which have been posted there
A month or two ago I started reading the old archives
myself. My reading has been a bit sporadic, so I
haven't got far - I'm up to late November of the first
year. I haven't noticed any legal texts yet, but I'll
report them if I find them.
Incidentally, I recommend this reading material to all
- lively, fascinating and part of our heritage!
Cordus
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Archives (WAS: Debt Humiliation) |
| From: |
"L. Cornelius Sulla" <alexious@earthlink.net> |
| Date: |
Sun, 4 May 2003 17:55:32 -0700 |
|
Ave,
Any archieve will have to begin after the Civil War. That occurred in July 1999 (July 4th to be exact), with the appointment of Flavius Vedius as Dictator of Nova Roma. It took about 3 weeks for him and his staff to re-write the Constitution of Nova Roma.
Respectfully,
Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix
----- Original Message -----
From: A. Apollonius Cordus
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 5:44 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Archives (WAS: Debt Humiliation)
A. Apollonius Cordus to C. Iulius Scaurus & all
citizens & peregrines, greetings.
> Once the indexing of all the extant texts in the
> Tabularium is complete I shall review the main list
archives for any
> legal texts which have been posted there
A month or two ago I started reading the old archives
myself. My reading has been a bit sporadic, so I
haven't got far - I'm up to late November of the first
year. I haven't noticed any legal texts yet, but I'll
report them if I find them.
Incidentally, I recommend this reading material to all
- lively, fascinating and part of our heritage!
Cordus
=====
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__________________________________________________
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Archives (WAS: Debt Humiliation) |
| From: |
"Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 05 May 2003 01:05:16 -0000 |
|
G. Iulius Scaurus A. Apollonio Cordo et L. Cornelio Sullae Felici et
Q. Cassio Calvo salutem dicit.
Salvete, omnes.
Be assured that I very much appreciate the offers of help in
recovering missing legal texts. If things proceed as I hope, I shall
be calling on you by late June. Thank you.
Valete.
G. Iulius Scaurus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Caesarea |
| From: |
"Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 05 May 2003 06:40:12 -0000 |
|
G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.
Avete, Quirites.
Here's a link to the "Combined Caesarea Expeditions" website:
http://digcaesarea.org/
The site describes the activities of archaeologists investigating the
Herodian city and its harbour with excellent teaching modules on
archaeological theory and methods and the Caesarean artifacts.
Valete, Quirites.
G. Iulius Scaurus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Ludi Florales Circensis, second semifinal race results! |
| From: |
Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 05 May 2003 11:12:58 -0400 |
|
Hello again racing fans! Welcome back to the semifinals of the
Ludi Florales chariot races, where we're ready for the second race!
This race pits two teams from praesina against one from veneta and
one from albata.
First, at the poll position we see the praesina chariot Green Flash,
owned by Senator Marcus Minucius Audens and driven by Pugio. Green
Flash is reported to be the favorite with the bookies, drawing two
to one odds as we come up to race time.
Next, the second praesina entry in this race, is the chariot Volatilis
owned by Consul Titus Labienus Fortunatus, and driven by Pelops Celer.
In the third starting position we have the Ossifragus chariot of the
veneta team -- blue's first appearance today -- driven by Pontius Falx
and owned by Gallus Minucius Iovinus.
And on the outside, the albata team has their Impactus Infrenatus driven
by Concordius and owned by Gnaeus Octavius Noricus. Albata has avoided
a late scratch by some heroic efforts on the part of their pit crew to
repair some suspicious wheel hub damage discovered less than an hour ago.
The racing officials are investigating, and rumors are running thick and
fast in the infield. Stay tuned for updates...
And now... the chariots are at the starting line, ready to race!
And they're off! The Green Flash is a green flash taking a fast lead
down the track, with green Volantis and blue Ossifragus close behind, as
the white Impactus Infrenatus closes from behind. Now they round the
first turn... and down the backstretch they're lined up -- green, blue,
green and white. Now they're around the near turn, and into the second
lap of this seven lap race. The Green Flash is setting a fast pace, but
the track is dry and fast today, and Pugio knows this racecourse.
Now they're approaching the far turn, with Green Flash first around,
followed by Ossifragus... with Impactus Infrenatus going wide trying
to pass Volantis in the turn. As they come down the backstretch the
white chariot has slipped into third place while blue Ossifragus in
second is still hard on the heels of the Green Flash. Rounding the
near corner in order, the second lap ends with the Green Flash still
in the lead.
Now the white chariot is making a move! Thundering down the straight-
away, he's overtaking everyone! Now he's almost even with the leading
Green Flash as they go into the far turn, and coming down the backstretch
it's the Green Flash by a horses nose with white Impactus Infrenatus
challenging on the outside. As they approach the near turn, the
Impactus Infrenatus has taken the lead! They slow for the turn...
and now Impactus Infrenatus is clear and headed past the starting line
into the fourth lap, in the lead! He's still charging ahead, leaving
the other three chariots behind! Now he's four full chariot lengths
ahead and still drawing away as he has to rein in for the far turn.
In the backstretch, blue Ossifragus overtakes Green Flash, and pulls
close to the spina. As they round the near turn, Ossifragus is
dangerously close to the wall! But he's gained precious strides on
Impactus Infrenatus, the white chariot that's just running away with
this race right now!
Four laps into this seven lap race, it's looking like a run away victory
for the white chariot! But we still have plenty of racing left and
anything can happen!
Around the far turn, it's still white, blue, green and green. The albata
driver has slowed his furious pace just a bit, but he's still letting his
horses have their heads in the long straightaways. He's been gaining
two chariot lengths with each passing lap!
Now, into the near turn again... blue Ossifragus is still hugging the
spina dangerously! But he's holding onto second place... The two
green chariots follow behind, still biding their time. Green Flash
led the first two laps of this race and nobody's written that chariot
off yet. Pugio is a veteran of many races and a power to be reckoned
with still.
Now we're in the sixth lap and the wear on the Impactus Infrenatus team
is starting to show. They're not accelerating out of the turn like they
did in earlier laps, and blue Ossifragus is overtaking now on the outside.
(And speaking of Ossifragus folks, I just learned something shocking from
the race officials about the owner of that chariot! Stay tuned for more!)
Oh! Look at that! The outside horse in the Volatilis team has broken
free of his traces! What a rotten break for Pelops Celer, who's been
driving a fine race thus far. But he's got the team under control and
they're off the track now. Better luck next time Celer!
The three remaining teams are coming 'round the near turn. It's blue
Ossifragus, white Impactus Infrenatus, and the Green Flash as they
head into the last lap... Now Pugio pulls the Green Flash to the
outside and he's really laying it on! There he goes! His horses
are really answering and watch them eat up that ground! He's
past the Impactus Infrenatus now and closing fast on the leading
Ossifragus! Now they're into the far turn, with Ossifragus still
hugging the spina as he has all race... Look! The Green Flash
has gone wide and passed the Ossifragus in the turn! The blue
chariot is second now... and it looks like he took some kind of
damage in that last wall scraping turn! Now Impactus Infrenatus
has moved into second place ...
AND DOWN THE STRETCH THEY COME! It's Green Flash in the lead by
three full lengths! Impactus Infrenatus is second, and Ossifragus
a distant third as he nurses his crippled chariot in for a careful
finish. And at the finish line it's the Green Flash going away!
And now folks, that shocking news I mentioned earlier! The race
officials have confirmed that Impactus Infrenatus' pre race
damage was the result of a shameful and shocking attempt at
sabotage by Gallus Minucius Iovinus, owner of the blue Ossifragus.
The judges are even now determining the amount of the fine to be
levied against Iovinus for his transgression.
I don't know about you, race fans, but I'm shocked! Simply
shocked that such a thing could happen here. What kind of
moral decay is this? I ask you....
So that's it from the second race in the Ludi Florales semifinals!
Green Flash wins, and will run in the finals.
We'll be right back with the third race of the semifinals! Stay
tuned for more racing!
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Ludi Florales Trivia Contest, days 3 and 4 results |
| From: |
Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 05 May 2003 11:22:56 -0400 |
|
Day 3 results --
G. Iulius Scaurus: 5 pts
Alexander I.C. Probus: 1 pt
Day 4 results --
G. Iulius Scaurus: 5 pts
Cumulative scores --
Gaius Iulius Scaurus: 19
Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus: 8
Quintus Cassius Calvus: 8
Gnaeus Salix Astur: 5
Alexander Probus: 5
-- Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
Curule Aedile
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Meeting Days of the Republican Senate |
| From: |
"Roger" <politicog@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 05 May 2003 15:16:12 -0000 |
|
I was reading in Gibbon this weekend that the meeting days of the
Senate (at least under Augustus and Tiberius) were on the Calends,
Nones, and Ides.
Was this also the practice under the Republic?
Lucius Quintius Constantius of Lacus Magni
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Digest No 568 Vote *for* Laenas |
| From: |
"Lucius Equitius" <vergil@starpower.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 5 May 2003 13:39:28 -0400 |
|
Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur Quiritibus SPD
I repeat my complete support for the candidacy {Vote *for* Laenas}of Gaius
Popillius Laenas as
Tribune Plebis.
Though I'm Patrician I hope that will not interfere with your decision to
Vote *for* Laenas Tribune Plebis.
He has already demonstrated his competency as Quaestor last year when he
administered the first year of Nova Roma tax collection in exemplary
fashion.
Additionally, I have found him to be a most noble Roman who will take his
responsibilities as a representative of the people seriously. I endorse
Gaius Popillius Laenas as a friend and Roman.
Vote *for* Laenas
Bene omnibus nobis
Valete
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 15:16:21 -0000
> From: "gaiuspopilliuslaenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Campaign Statement
>
> Gaius Popillius Laenas Quiritibus salutem plurimam dicit,
>
> We are approaching what WILL be the last run-off election for the
> final position of Tribune of the Plebs and I come before you a final
> time asking for your support.
>
> The vital responsibility of the Tribune is to protect the interests
> of the people by insuring that the Constitution and Laws up Nova
> Roma are upheld and administered fairly. You have seen this
> responsibility carried out this year by our already elected
> Tribunes. It sees to me, valued attributes for a Tribune would be
> fairness and an ability to work well with a variety of people. I
> believe I have this attributes.
>
> I served as Consular Quaestor for the "conservative" Consul Lucius
> Cornelius Sulla Felix, and I currently serve as Accensus for
> the "moderate" Consul Titus Labienus Fortunatus.
>
> I have also enjoyed the endorsement / support of a fairly wide
> ranger of cives as noted below (some even Partrician :-0 )
>
> L. Equitius Senator, Consular, past Censor
> Patricia Cassia, Senator
> Pompeia Cornelia Strabo
> L. Suetonius Nerva
> Manius Constantinus Serapio, Quaestor
> Sextus Apollonius Scipio, Quaestor
>
> (If I have forgotten anyone, or neglected to include a title, please
> forgive me).
>
> So I ask once again and the final time for your vote.
>
> Remember to vote, but more importantly remember to vote Laenas!!! ;-
> O
>
> Valete,
> Gaius Popillius Laenas
> Propraetor America Austrorientalis
> Consular Accensus
> Paterfamilias Gens Popillia
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Caesarea |
| From: |
"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 5 May 2003 13:04:45 -0400 |
|
Salve Kenneth G. Holum of the University of Maryland is the co-director of
the "Combined Caesarea Expeditions" and was my professor for Roman history
at the University of Maryland back in the mid 1970's. Nice guy. I have
followed the project with interest for the pasted few decades. Great stuff.
Vale
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:40 AM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Caesarea
> G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.
>
> Avete, Quirites.
>
> Here's a link to the "Combined Caesarea Expeditions" website:
>
> http://digcaesarea.org/
>
> The site describes the activities of archaeologists investigating the
> Herodian city and its harbour with excellent teaching modules on
> archaeological theory and methods and the Caesarean artifacts.
>
> Valete, Quirites.
>
> G. Iulius Scaurus
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Portuguese Interpretation |
| From: |
"Roger" <politicog@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 05 May 2003 16:11:57 -0000 |
|
Should the Republic require it, I will be happy to serve as one of
the Portuguese translators. Though not a native speaker, I did live
in Portugal for two years (even got to walk on top of a Roman
aqueduct!) and try to keep my language skills current.
Lucius Quintius Constantius of Lacus Magni
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Digest No 573 |
| From: |
"Lucius Equitius" <vergil@starpower.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 5 May 2003 14:27:17 -0400 |
|
Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur Quiritbus SPD
In the matter of "Diana Moravia Aventina" assuming Materfamilias Moravi, I
contacted the original Paterfamilias Nicolaus Moravius Vado to verify that
she had indeed been one of the original gens members. He answered promptly
even though he was no longer a citizen and was very cooperative in his
recounting Moravi history.
At nearly the same time my then Scriba Censoris Marcus Octavius was able to
locate from old data Diana Moravia Aventina's citizen records.
Using these pieces of evidence the Censores determined that in fact Diana
Moravia Aventina was a citizen before any of the others, and in fact she, as
the only Gens member, would have been Materfamilias.
Therefore, what was done was to simply correct the records.
Thus, when Tribune Diana Moravia Aventina says, "but I believe the logic was
that since my original citizenship was from Sept 1999 and L Moravius from
Dec 17 2000, removing him as Paterfamilias and making me Materfamilias was
correcting an error.", she is complete correct.
Our decision had nothing to do with an "EDICTUM PRAETORICIUM", and neither
did it have anything to do with favoritism or "beautiful people" of Nova
Roma.
Valete
________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 15:35:05 +0200
> From: "Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
> Subject: RE: Re: Digest Number 569 - Debt Humiliation
>
> Salve Calvus,
>
> Sorry, but I have to disagree with your reasoning below:
>
> . How
> <quickly people forget that the proper Pater of Gens Moravia was
> <summarily ousted illegally. He was removed without trial, he was
> <removed without failure to respond to a Census (another law
> <conveniently ignored because 1700+ citizens looks better than a
> <couple hundred). He was just removed because Diana (sorry Diana as
> <much as I like you personally) is popular.
>
> When I returned in April 2002 only a handful of people remembered me from
> 1999 & 2000 and Lucius Moravius was totally inactive. So I really think
that
> popularity had nothing to do with this issue since when I was made
> Materfamilias thereby ousting L Moravius, no one in Nova Roma knew either
> one of us.
>
> But you are right: Lucius Moravius did not have a trial and had no chance
to
> answer a Census, but do you really think he was ousted illegally? After
not
> reponding to my numerous emails asking to be reinstated into Gens Moravia,
> he then failed to respond within 45 days to (then) Praetor Titus Labienus
> Fortunatus who then acted in his place according to the EDICTUM
PRAETORICIUM
> of August 7 2755 :Praetores May Act on Behalf of Absent Patresfamilias.I
> could be wrong, but I believe the logic was that since my original
> citizenship was from Sept 1999 and L Moravius from Dec 17 2000, removing
him
> as Paterfamilias and making me Materfamilias was correcting an error.
>
> <I have no doubt for one minute that if I had failed to pay my taxes to
Nova
> Roma I'd
> <been removed from Rogator one second after the stroke of midnight.
> <Why? Because I'm not one of the "beautiful people" of Nova Roma.
>
> Hey now angel... What's this all about? You're not one of the "beautiful'
> people" ???? Says who? I can send you a long list of citizens who have
you
> on their 'beautiful people' list ;-)
>
> Vale,
> Diana Moravia
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Ludi Florales Circensis, third semifinal race results |
| From: |
Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 05 May 2003 14:38:23 -0400 |
|
Hello racing fans! Welcome back to the track where we're about to
start the third semifinal race of the Ludi Florales games!
In this race, starting at the pole position we have the russata faction's
chariot Puteo, driven by Veritas est and owned by Lucius Arminius Faustus.
Next there's the praesina faction's chariot Inexpugnabilis II driven by
Euthymus and owned by Caius Curius Saturninus. In the third lane we have
Orionis Draco from the veneta faction, driven by Equus Magnus and owned
by Titus Licinius Crassus. And on the outside there's Minotaur, another
chariot from the huge praesina team! Minotaur is driven by its owner,
Quintus Lanius Paulinus. Paulinus has trained hard, and he thinks he can
hold his own against these professional drivers here today. Let's see
how he does!
They're at the starting line now... the drivers exchange their usual
pleasantries... Woah! Orionis Draco almost made a false start there!
The wheel horse was about to bolt when Magnus brought him up short.
That stallion had better watch out, lest he become a gelding. Now
Magnus has his team back in order.... and they're ready to race.
There they go! Orionis Draco is off to a quick start, taking the lead
and moving toward the inside wall. Behind him the russata and both
praesina chariots close into a tight following line of thundering
hooves and flashing wheels... Now the veneta chariot slows for the
first turn... and the others close in... now around the backstretch
and he's off again! Equus Magnus is really driving his beasts today
folks, pushing them for all the early speed he can get on this fast
track.
Now they're into the near turn... and again the Orionis Draco comes
out flying! If Magnus can hold this pace nobody will catch him!
But we still have most of six laps to go... Behind him come the
green, blue, and green chariots maintaining a tight, disciplined
group. Those drivers are obviously playing the long game here,
waiting for Magnus to wear his team out...
Third lap now. The Orionis Draco is still in the lead, still charging
down every straightaway at full speed. Euthymus in Inexpugnabilis II
has moved into second place, just ahead of russata's Puteo. Paulinus
in how own Minotaur is at the back of the pack, keeping close, biding
his time... They round the far turn... coming back down the track now
pretty much as they've been... Now they're into the near turn, and
here's the end of the third lap.
Coming up on the halfway point in this race, Paulinus has moved to
the outside. It looks like he's going to try to pass Puteo... and
yes! Paulinus in Minotaur has moved into third place! Orionis Draco
goes into the far turn with the other three following behind in their
tight formation... How long can Magnus drive his team like this?
Will they last another three laps? Inquiring minds want to know!
As they take the near turn the blue chariot is still in the lead,
gaining a length of distance with every half lap!
In the fifth lap now, back in the pack it looks like Lanius Paulinus
is getting ready to overtake his praesina teammate. He's come up
even now.... and yes! He's overtaken Inexpugnabilis II! Great
driving Paulinus! But can he catch that blue cyclone called Orionis
Draco? Can anything stop the Orionis Draco now? They've rounded the
far turn and here they come down the backstretch. Paulinus is still
driving a disciplined race, rating those horses... waiting for his
chance. He's betting that the Orionis Draco can't sustain this pace...
Now the Orionis Draco is through the near turn and once again Equus
Magnus is flogging those horses for all they'll give him! They're
pulling away... Paulinus gives chace, with a lap and two thirds to
go... now the blue chariot comes out of the far turn racing down
the backstretch... and Oh No! Would ya look at that Lucius?!?
The chariot bow has come off of the Orionis Draco! Equus Magnus
is down between the two interior horses, holding on for dear life!
Will he be trampled to mush!? Can anything save him now?!? Yes!
Yes! He's up on the back of his left inside horse now! Let's
give a big hand to Equus Magnus as he leaves the track to drive
another day. Tough break for Titus Licinius Crassus and the veneta
team there, but what a heart stopping show from Equus Magnus!
Final lap now... the Minotaur is in the lead, and now Paulinus
can taste victory! He's watching over his shoulder... letting the
reins out just a bit now, still holding the horses back just a bit
for that last burst of speed... Into the far turn it's green, green
and red as they flash around the spina... Now DOWN THE STRETCH
THEY COME! They're really racing now folks! Thundering down the
backstretch it's a sprint to the finish! Puteo swings wide to
try one last charge! But now he's losing ground. Those horses
have had it for today, and they just don't have a last burst of
speed left! Inexpugnabilis II still challenges though, and as they
come into the last turn it's two green chariots almost like one blur
of speed! Paulinus lets his team have their heads now! And yes!
They have surged ahead again! At the finish it's Quintus Lanius
Paulinus in his Minotaur by half a chariot wheel! Inexpugnabilis II
is a close, close second! And Puteo comes in third.
That's it from the third race today folks! We're going to take a short
break and then we'll be right back with the fourth and final race of
this semifinal round of the Ludi Florales Circensis!
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] EDICTUM CENSORIS: Gens Registration |
| From: |
Zorko <zorik@stonline.sk> |
| Date: |
Mon, 05 May 2003 20:36:21 +0200 |
|
Salvete ,
Gens Iulia Caesaria already up-dated and there is a very good message to all
up-comming citizens of Nova Roma: Gens Iulia Caesaria is accepting new
members from all over the world: from Cucamonga Junction to Bahgdad and
Sapporo and from Mehamn to Maputo.
Bene valete
Alexander Probus,
Paterfamilias Gens Iulia Caesaria
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Plebeian citizens: It is time to vote! |
| From: |
"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be> |
| Date: |
Mon, 5 May 2003 22:33:57 +0200 |
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Salvete Plebeian citizens!
Even though my colleague Lucius Pompeius Octavianus is the presiding
magistrate for this election, I would like give all Plebeian citizens a
friendly reminder that the fifth run-off election for the last vacant office
of Tribunus Plebis is now under way!
If you are a Plebeian citizen, please go to http://www.novaroma.org and
click 'VOTE NOW'. Voting will continue for the next week, but why wait? Vote
now!
Only Plebeian citizens may vote in this election. Not sure if you are a
Plebeian? No problem. Just go to http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gentes
Find the name of your gens (they are listed alphabetically). Two columns to
the right of your Gens name, click on the 'number of cives'. A new page
opens that contains a listing of all the citizens in your Gens. The word
'Patrician' or 'Plebeian' will be written on the left beneath the name of
your Gens. If it says 'Plebeian' then you need to vote!
If you don't remember your voter code or are a new citizen, again, no
problem. You can have it automatically mailed to you by doing the following:
Follow the same procedure as mentioned above. When you reach the page
listing all of the citizens in your Gens, locate your name and click on the
link. On the new page you'll see a box which contains information about you.
Click on "Get voter code". On the new page, enter your year of birth and
click 'request voter code'. Your voter code will be emailed to you. Once you
have your voter code, go to http://www.novaroma.org and click 'VOTE NOW'.
Thank you for your interest in this election!
Valete,
Diana Moravia Aventina on behalf of the Tribunes of 2756
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Digest No 573 |
| From: |
"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 05 May 2003 20:29:08 -0000 |
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Salve Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur,
That seems fair and logical to me. With all the information that has
been brought forth between yourself and Consul Labienus, in my mind
the cloud of questions about the whole affair is burned away.
Vale,
Q. Cassius Calvus
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Equitius" <vergil@s...>
wrote:
> Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur Quiritbus SPD
>
> In the matter of "Diana Moravia Aventina" assuming Materfamilias
Moravi, I
> contacted the original Paterfamilias Nicolaus Moravius Vado to
verify that
> she had indeed been one of the original gens members. He answered
promptly
> even though he was no longer a citizen and was very cooperative in
his
> recounting Moravi history.
> At nearly the same time my then Scriba Censoris Marcus Octavius was
able to
> locate from old data Diana Moravia Aventina's citizen records.
> Using these pieces of evidence the Censores determined that in fact
Diana
> Moravia Aventina was a citizen before any of the others, and in
fact she, as
> the only Gens member, would have been Materfamilias.
> Therefore, what was done was to simply correct the records.
> Thus, when Tribune Diana Moravia Aventina says, "but I believe the
logic was
> that since my original citizenship was from Sept 1999 and L
Moravius from
> Dec 17 2000, removing him as Paterfamilias and making me
Materfamilias was
> correcting an error.", she is complete correct.
> Our decision had nothing to do with an "EDICTUM PRAETORICIUM", and
neither
> did it have anything to do with favoritism or "beautiful people" of
Nova
> Roma.
>
> Valete
>
>
______________________________________________________________________
__
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 15:35:05 +0200
> > From: "Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@p...>
> > Subject: RE: Re: Digest Number 569 - Debt Humiliation
> >
> > Salve Calvus,
> >
> > Sorry, but I have to disagree with your reasoning below:
> >
> > . How
> > <quickly people forget that the proper Pater of Gens Moravia was
> > <summarily ousted illegally. He was removed without trial, he was
> > <removed without failure to respond to a Census (another law
> > <conveniently ignored because 1700+ citizens looks better than a
> > <couple hundred). He was just removed because Diana (sorry Diana
as
> > <much as I like you personally) is popular.
> >
> > When I returned in April 2002 only a handful of people remembered
me from
> > 1999 & 2000 and Lucius Moravius was totally inactive. So I really
think
> that
> > popularity had nothing to do with this issue since when I was made
> > Materfamilias thereby ousting L Moravius, no one in Nova Roma
knew either
> > one of us.
> >
> > But you are right: Lucius Moravius did not have a trial and had
no chance
> to
> > answer a Census, but do you really think he was ousted illegally?
After
> not
> > reponding to my numerous emails asking to be reinstated into Gens
Moravia,
> > he then failed to respond within 45 days to (then) Praetor Titus
Labienus
> > Fortunatus who then acted in his place according to the EDICTUM
> PRAETORICIUM
> > of August 7 2755 :Praetores May Act on Behalf of Absent
Patresfamilias.I
> > could be wrong, but I believe the logic was that since my original
> > citizenship was from Sept 1999 and L Moravius from Dec 17 2000,
removing
> him
> > as Paterfamilias and making me Materfamilias was correcting an
error.
> >
> > <I have no doubt for one minute that if I had failed to pay my
taxes to
> Nova
> > Roma I'd
> > <been removed from Rogator one second after the stroke of
midnight.
> > <Why? Because I'm not one of the "beautiful people" of Nova Roma.
> >
> > Hey now angel... What's this all about? You're not one of
the "beautiful'
> > people" ???? Says who? I can send you a long list of citizens
who have
> you
> > on their 'beautiful people' list ;-)
> >
> > Vale,
> > Diana Moravia
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| Subject: |
RE: [Nova-Roma] Digest No 573 |
| From: |
"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be> |
| Date: |
Mon, 5 May 2003 22:22:29 +0200 |
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Salve Lucius Equitius,
Thank you very much for clarifying my email. This morning I was trying to
put all the facts together regarding me becoming Materfamilas and I had
totally forgotten the email from Nicholas Moravius Vado.
Thanks again & vale!
Diana Moravia
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Invalid Voter Codes |
| From: |
"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 05 May 2003 20:57:18 -0000 |
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Salve
The citizen(s) with the following voter tracking codes
has a malformed or inaccurate voter code:
# 309 and 315
Please remember to enter your code exactly as it is
given, and if you are unsure of your new code, follow
the instructions posted previously to obtain your
current voter code by e-mail:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/5339
Or you may write the censors: censors @ novaroma.org
Vale,
Q. Cassius Calvus
Rogator
P.S. This means my email is finally working again. <G>
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] March and April Issues of The Eagle |
| From: |
"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Mon, 05 May 2003 21:06:59 -0000 |
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Salve,
I'm very impressed with Nova Roma's Eagle (and as some have figured
out, I am not easily impressed). The lay out, format, proofreading,
and editing is of excellent quality and shows that much hard work and
effort is going into producing a high quality professional
newsletter. The Curator Differum, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus and
his staff are doing a remarkable job on a very tight budget. I
highly urge everyone who is not already a subscriber to The Eagle to
do so as it is $20.00 well spent.
The subscription address is:
Nova Roma Eagle
5496 Ross Court
New Market, MD 21774
Vale,
Q. Cassius Calvus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Ludi Florales Circensis, fourth semifinal race results! |
| From: |
Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> |
| Date: |
Mon, 05 May 2003 17:15:08 -0400 |
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Hello race fans! Welcome back to the fourth and last semifinal race of
the Ludi Florales Circensis! The winner of this race will be joining
the winners of the other three semifinal races for the big final
race that will determine the winner of the Ludi Florales Circensis!
Out on the track we see that the current green champion chariot,
Basilea, driven by Septimus Raurax, is in the pole position. Next,
the veneta entry Fortuna driven by Felix Fortunatus and owned by
the sweetheart of Veneta, Roscia Annaea Pia, who's here today
to watch her team run surrounded by her admiring fans! In the
third lane, we have the praesina entry Raptor Cruentus driven
by Cethinus Aspis, owned by Gaius Iulius Scaurus. On the outside
we have the albata chariot Alea Iacta Est, driven by Aurelius
and owned by Marcus Tullius Philippicae.
Now they're at the starting line... But wait! The racing officials
are waving off the starter! The judges are walking onto the track
and Oh No! They've seized the wheelhorse of the veneta chariot
and they're leading that team off the track!
We've just received word from the race judges that Fortuna has
been disqualified! Oh what a blow for the veneta team! What an
embarassment for Roscia Annaea Pia! She is furious! But now
the judge has shown her something which must be the evidence...
and ... is she blushing?!? Who knows? She's being led away
to the official's pavilion. We'll let you know as more information
comes to us. What a sad stain on the day this is for the veneta team.
But now the three remaining teams have been lined up again. The
starter is in place, and... Off they go!
The albata Alea Iacta Est is off to a fast start, taking advantage
of this fast track today. Behind him are the two praesina chariots,
Basilea and Raptor Cruentus. The two greens are neck and neck as
the white chariot goes into the first turn.... and now they're around
and through. Again the albata chariot draws ahead in the backstretch,
and here they come into the near turn... he slows, now he's around
and after one lap it's albata, praesina, and praesina! Down the
front straightaway of the second lap the albata chariot gains more
ground before slowing for the far turn again... Meanwhile the two
greens are biding their time... running a close second and third.
Now they're into the far turn, and again the white chariot comes
charging out down the backstretch. Behind him the two greens are
steady, eating up ground and biding their time.... here they come
around the near turn.. and that's the second lap.
In the front straightaway again we see the albata chariot surging
ahead. Now Cethinus Aspis, the driver of the green Raptor Cruentus,
is lashing his teammate! Septimus Raurax can't believe it! Raurax
has his knife out... and now he's cut Cethinus Aspis' whip off short.
That'll show the young upstart!
Now Septimus Raurax pulls ahead, putting distance between himself
and his traitorous teammate. You can just bet there will be words
in the drivers' baths tonight race fans!
Now they're around the far turn, into the backstretch, and the
albata chariot is still pulling away from Raurax in his green
Basilea. Now Aurelius, the albata driver, reins his team in
for the turn and Septimus Raurax closes fast, risking the wall
to gain ground. They're out of the turn now and THAT's the fourth
lap of this race.
Once again Aurelius lets his horses run... Raurax is biding his
time, maintaining his steady pace, not letting Aurelius set the
pace of this race for him. Raurax is a seasoned veteran who
knows how to win folks. This race is a long way from over!
They're around the far turn and coming down the backstretch
once again. Look at those horses run! Aurelius is pushing his
team for all they've got now... and now he slows again for the
near side turn... Raurax still close behind him...
Now they're into the sixth lap. Aurelius is driving his team
like the furies. Raurax holds steady, letting the white chariot
draw ahead in the straightaway, knowing he'll catch him in the
corners. Sure enough, here they go again, into the far corner,
with Raurax closing fast as Aurelius slows to round the spina
again. They've left the other praesina chariot Raptor Cruentus
well behind now, as the driver Aspis is forced to make do with
his cut-off whip... It's really just a two chariot race now.
Rounding the near turn, they head into the seventh and final
lap... Now Raurax is showing his stuff! He's eased off the reins
and his horses are loving it. They have the bits in their teeth
as they tear down the track! He's drawing even with
Now he's ahead! Raurax has taken the lead here in the last lap!
He stays wide of the spina, trading extra distance for turning
speed... Aurelius tries to come up on the inside ...
AND DOWN THE STRETCH THEY COME!
It's albata's Alea Iacta Est, driven by Aurelius, neck and neck
with praesina's Wheel hub to wheel hub they charge down
the length of the backstretch here... Now Aurelius is in the lead
again! Into the final turn, Raurax pushes his horses for their
last burst of speed! Into the short straight they're still
neck and neck! And at the finish line it's............
Albata by a nose! Aurelius has done it! He's beaten Raurax!
The crowd is going wild!
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] comitia plebis tributa : voting until May 11th |
| From: |
"Daniel O. Villanueva" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar> |
| Date: |
Mon, 5 May 2003 20:07:27 -0300 |
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Salvete omnes.
Due to delay in the beginning of the election I do hereby postpone the ending of the voting in one day, so it will end on May 11th at 18:00 Rome time. Thus, the voting period still is 8 days long.
Bene valete
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Tribunus Plebis
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] updated the voting period at Nova Roma Calendar |
| From: |
"Daniel O. Villanueva" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar> |
| Date: |
Mon, 5 May 2003 20:19:14 -0300 |
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Salvete omnes.
I updated the voting period at Nova Roma calendar : http://www.novaroma.org/bin/calendar/cal .
So if you have any doubts you can click the link above.
Bene valete
Lucius Pompeius Octavianus
Tribunus Plebis
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