| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: test / two upcoming movies to look forward to! |
| From: |
"Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 01:55:12 -0000 |
|
G. Iulius Scaurus Q. Lanio Paulino salutem dicit.
Salve, Q. Lani.
> Boudiccan Rebellion
> http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_507144.html?menu=
This sounds like another opportunity for a movie to make a mockery of
history. Of course, Boudicca must have had a "macho lover" to lead
the rebellion (Tacitus appears to have taken no notice of the chap,
but Warner Brothers is closer at hand to the actual events and privy
to sources to which Tacitus wasn't :-). Dio Cassius attributes the
revolt to the procurator's attempt to recover bounties paid to client
kings at the time of the conquest (there is evidence from elsewhere
that some treaties with client kings in the early principate paid
generous bounties to those kings in exchange for Roman support during
the king's life and annexation of the client kingdom by Rome at the
king's death, accompanied by reversion of an amount equal to the Roman
subsidy to the Roman treasury; this may have been a factor in the
Icenian revolt) and attempts to call in loans made by major figures at
Nero's court (Dio Cassius mentions Seneca by name, and he shares
Tacitus' anti-Julio-Claudian bias) to client kings in Britannia.
Tacitus takes the usual moralising and anti-imperial tone in his
account, as well as his tendency to portrary every senior Roman who
dealt with Britons except Agricola as corrupt or incompetent. I
suspect we'll see rather more attention to the rape allegations than
the problems of assimilating a Celtic population to Roman administration.
> Megalopolis – Future Rome
> Director Francis Ford Coppola has described Megalopolis as "a Roman
> epic, a Cecil B. DeMille" style picture. The setting is modern New
> York and the premise is that the world of the future is being
> negotiated today. The characters include artists, businessmen,
> politicians, and the common people, all having a stake in the future
> but few able to directly determine their destiny. New York is
> portrayed as the counterpart of ancient Republican Rome and the plot
> is inspired by a very famous incident during the period of the Roman
> Republic called the Catiline Conspiracy. Although set in the present
> day, the surroundings will conjure the ambience of ancient Rome.
> According to Coppola, "Say you're downtown, around Wall Street, and
> suddenly you come across a Roman temple. You'll see that sensibility
> in the way it's staged and shot. A taxicab will be from modern New
> York, but you'll feel like you're in Rome. The story is a very Roman
> story but it's also a very modern American story." Estimated to have
> a budget of $60-80 million, the film has been compared to Ayn Rand's
> novel The Fountainhead, with "a real estate entrepreneur who wants to
> construct the title building out of new and cheap advanced plastic
> compound and the well-liked New York mayor who is out to stop him."
Lucius Sergius Catilina as Howard Roark? Given "One from the Heart,"
I guess I shouldn't be surprised at Coppola filming an epic about
Rome's leading advocate of debt repudiation.
> For those who don't know:
>
> The Cataline Conspiracy: Between the repulsion of Lepidus by Catalus
> and the uneventful passage of Caesar over the bridge, there were 29
> years of almost uninterrupted trouble as the Roman republic collapse
> in on itself. One of the most intriguing events of this chaotic
> period was the Conspiracy of Cataline (not the same guy as Catalus),
> and again the Milvian Bridge figures into the story.
> All of the accounts of Cataline were written after his conspiracy was
> discovered and his revolt was put down, so what was said about him by
> his victorious enemies might be suspect. But even his former
> followers tell the same story: he was eloquent, charming, rich,
> dissolute, mean, extravagant, unwise, and insatiably ambitious. He
> was the epitome of the chaos of his times. Cataline surrounded
> himself (as did many others of the nobility, and as do boxers,
> football players, and rap stars of today) with an entourage of thugs
> and criminals. They and Cataline were accused by their enemies (and
> later by some of their followers) of almost any conceivable excess.
> There is no doubt that they were a criminal gang. Their power in the
> city quickly grew and they eventually got the support of a number of
> Senators, most of whom were enemies of Pompey -- they appear to have
> thought that they could use Cataline to bring Pompey down a notch or
> two. Some even said that Crassus, Pompey's chief rival, at least
> tacitly supported Cataline, who was plotting a coup.
> In 64 BC, Pompey was off fighting the Mithradatic Wars overseas, and
> Cataline saw a chance to put his plan into action. But another
> schemer, Cicero, was also around, and he wanted to thwart Cataline.
> The goal of Cicero, Rome's most successful lawyer and most famous
> orator, had always been to avoid being identified with any of the
> political camps or gangs in the city -- he wanted to know and control
> everything, but to be seen as a "clean hands" outsider. He had spies
> planted everywhere, and some of them were in Cataline's gang. When he
> got wind of Cataline's impending coup attempt, Cicero bribed some of
> Cataline's supposed allies, barbarian representatives of the
> Allobroges tribe from Gaul, to help him trap Cataline. The details
> are complex, but, in short, Cicero's men and the magistrates
> intercepted the Allobroges along with Cataline's emissaries at (where
> else?) the Milvian Bridge as they were leaving town. There was a
> short scuffle -- the Allobroges didn't participate -- and then
> Cataline's men were captured. The Allobroges, acting on Cicero's
> suggestion, had asked the emissaries to bring along letters from
> Cataline outlining the plot, and these letters were taken and read
> out in the Senate by Cicero. The Senate was outraged, but more
> importantly, the general public, on whose support Cataline had
> depended, were also outraged, and this because of two things. First,
> although almost anything else might be tolerated, nobody should ever
> recruit barbarians, and especially Gauls, in a conspiracy against
> Rome. Secondly and more importantly, the letters seized from
> Cataline's emissaries made it clear that his plot involved widespread
> arson in the city, and fire was every Roman's worst nightmare.
> Cataline escaped the but he and many of his high ranking followers
> were quickly caught and executed under quasi-legal circumstances.
> Accusations against Crassus were suppressed, either because the
> Senate thought he was too powerful to beard or because, as Crassus
> maintained, the accusations were trumped up by his enemy Cicero.
> Cicero was said to have resisted attempts by his allies to bring
> trumped up charges against Julius Caesar.
I am no great fan of M. Tullius Cicero, but this seems to present
Catilina in a rather better light than all the ancient sources (even
if we assume a largish degree of bias). For those interested in more
about the Catilinarian conspiracy:
Andrew Drummond, Law, Politics and Power: Sallust and the Execution of
the Catilinarian Conspirators (Stuttgart, 1995).
A. Kaplan, Catiline: The Man and His Role in the Roman Revolution (NY,
1968).
Charles M. Odahl, _The Catilinarian Conspiracy (New Haven, 1971).
J.T. Ramsey, Sallust's Bellum Catilinae (Chico, Ca., 1984).
Sir Ronald Syme, Sallust (Berkeley, 1964).
Vale.
G. Iulius Scaurus
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: test / two upcoming movies to look forward to! |
| From: |
Caius Minucius Scaevola <ben@callahans.org> |
| Date: |
Fri, 9 May 2003 23:07:56 -0400 |
|
Salve,
On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 01:55:12AM -0000, Gregory Rose wrote:
>
> Lucius Sergius Catilina as Howard Roark?
<choke><LOL> That is a hilarious image. "Rand does Rome"... no, wait,
that's too close to "Debbie does Dallas"... never mind. :)
Vale,
Caius Minucius Scaevola
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Mater artium necessitas.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
-- N/A
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: test / two upcoming movies to look forward to! |
| From: |
"Quintus Lanius Paulinus" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 03:27:30 -0000 |
|
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory Rose" <gfr@i...> wrote:
> G. Iulius Scaurus Q. Lanio Paulino salutem dicit.
>
> Salve, Q. Lani.
>
> > Boudiccan Rebellion
> > http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_507144.html?menu=
>
> This sounds like another opportunity for a movie to make a mockery
of
> history.
> > Megalopolis – Future Rome
> > Director Francis Ford Coppola has described Megalopolis as "a
Roman
> > epic, a Cecil B. DeMille" style picture. >
> Lucius Sergius Catilina as Howard Roark? Given "One from the
Heart,"
> I guess I shouldn't be surprised at Coppola filming an epic about
> Rome's leading advocate of debt repudiation.
>
> > For those who don't know:
> >
> I am no great fan of M. Tullius Cicero, but this seems to present
> Catilina in a rather better light than all the ancient sources (even
> if we assume a largish degree of bias). For those interested in
more
> about the Catilinarian conspiracy:
>
> Andrew Drummond, Law, Politics and Power: Sallust and the Execution
of
> the Catilinarian Conspirators (Stuttgart, 1995).
>
> A. Kaplan, Catiline: The Man and His Role in the Roman Revolution
(NY,
> 1968).
>
> Charles M. Odahl, _The Catilinarian Conspiracy (New Haven, 1971).
>
> J.T. Ramsey, Sallust's Bellum Catilinae (Chico, Ca., 1984).
>
> Sir Ronald Syme, Sallust (Berkeley, 1964).
>
> Vale.
>
> G. Iulius Scaurus
Salve Iuli,
That is a good critique you gave. I just cut some of our dialogue to
save space.
I realize that most movies made about Ancient Rome are usually off
the mark historically, especially when they try to put in 20th
century values, philosophies, jargon and slang as well as distorting
actual events in the name of artistic licence. This, of course, can
be frustrating to historians and other academics. Yet they do serve
a good purpose however by stimulating the interest of the masses,
many of whom do not study history in their schools since these
institutions have dropped such courses from the compulsory lists of
subjects over the last 20 years.
As a kid I would be drawn to movies like Quo Vadis, The Robe, Ben Hur
etc. and would often leave the theatre wondering how true and
accurate these stories were. I went home, hit the books and
encyclopedias to learn the truth. Thus developed my passion for
Ancient Rome and history over the years.
I am sure we can get more and more lay people interested in Rome and
Nova Roma by initially sending them to movies like Gladiator or this
new Boudicca than by initially dropping books the heavy translations
of the Civil Wars by Caesar, Seutonius' 12 Caesars, Polybius' Punic
Wars etc.
The deeper interests and readings will come in time, people will
graduate to watching TV documentaries followed by books but its
better not to scare people off initially. In my opinion Gadiator,
innaccurate as it was, did much to revive new interest in ancient
Rome as Ali did for boxing 35years ago.
Respectfully,
Quintus Lanius Paulinus
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Something Silly |
| From: |
"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 03:41:24 -0000 |
|
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Salix Astur"
<salixastur@y...> wrote:
> > #25 Christian Wicca (I am I the only one who thinks this is as
much
> > an oxymoron as "Jewish Nazism"?)
>
> It does sound quite complicated, yes. However, as someone quite
> familiar with Catholicism, I can assure you that such a thing is by
> no means impossible :-).
>
> (No offence meant towards our Catholic citizens; just a little joke
> :-) ).
>
No offense taken honest, really. Pay no attention to that big pole
surrounded by the wood. The ropes? Uhm, mountain climbing,
honest. Never mind those chants of "2... 4... 6... 8... who do we
incinerate?" That's just a little cheerleading practice, honest.
<Evil Grin>
Q. Cassius Calvus
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] JUNE EAGLE |
| From: |
"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com> |
| Date: |
Fri, 9 May 2003 23:42:34 -0400 |
|
Salve Friends
I would like to expedite the production of the June Eagle so we can have it and some of the back issues for Roman Days. That's the first week end in JUNE, In Maryland.
So in order to get it printed for that weekend , I would ask that anybody who has anything for the JUNE Eagle to send it in ASAP. ( May too).
Thanks in advance. I wish I had thought of it earlier but I didn't.
Vale
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Curator Differum
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] U.S. Epigraphy Project at Rutgers |
| From: |
"Gregory Rose" <gfr@intcon.net> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 04:03:01 -0000 |
|
G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.
Avete, Quirites.
Here's a link to the website of the Rutgers University "U.S. Epigraphy
Project":
http://usepigraphy.rutgers.edu/
The goal of the U.S. Epigraphy Project is to gather and distribute
information about ancient Greek and Latin inscriptions preserved by
institutions in the U.S. More than 2,300 inscriptions (720 Greek,
1,575 Latin) are currently entered in the project database and images
and transcriptions of many can be seen on this site.
Valete, Quirites.
G. Iulius Scaurus
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Something Silly |
| From: |
"M. Octavius Solaris" <scorpioinvictus@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Fri, 9 May 2003 23:47:27 +0200 |
|
Salvete omnes,
Just as a sidenote; the quiz was not made by SVR (although we do have other tests at SelectSmart). It seems very nice though! I *wish* we had made such one, lol :).
Valete bene,
Solaris
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Something Silly |
| From: |
"Gnaeus Salix Astur" <salixastur@yahoo.es> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 09:52:09 -0000 |
|
Salvete Quirites; et salve, Q. Cassi.
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "quintuscassiuscalvus"
<richmal@a...> wrote:
> > (No offence meant towards our Catholic citizens; just a little
> > joke :-) ).
> >
>
> No offense taken honest, really. Pay no attention to that big pole
> surrounded by the wood. The ropes? Uhm, mountain climbing,
> honest. Never mind those chants of "2... 4... 6... 8... who do
> we incinerate?" That's just a little cheerleading practice,
> honest.
> <Evil Grin>
>
> Q. Cassius Calvus
It is always nice to see the performance of pagan rituals, even if
they belong to a different, slightly intolerant tradition ;-).
CN·SALIX·ASTVR·T·F·A·NEP·TRIB·OVF
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| Subject: |
RE: [Nova-Roma] Re: Something Silly |
| From: |
"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 12:39:42 +0200 |
|
Salve Titus Pius!
Diana Moravia Aventina wrote:
< > You probably should have not clicked 'I agree'
< > when asked these two questions: "Humor and
< > Chaos should be the primary focus of your
< > path." "Confronting, embracing, and possibly
< > utilizing darkness and death are primary
< > elements in your path. "
TP: I didn't! Well, at least I didn't give either of those answers very
high
priority...and I'm quite sure I answered no to the first one.
I'm still sceptical :-) My undoing is that I clicked that I liked the
Ravenwolf and Conway books, which I do. They are light reading and fun and
good for newbies who hoepfully will go on to read more serious works. But I
don't believe those books are historically correct. There should have been a
choice between I agree and I disagree.
< *tsk* *tsk* Thor's the barroom brawler to attract the loud masses of
< beerswilling simpletons. And his name's spelled Tor. Oden's the 'cool
< dude'. :)
Thor is the English spelling. And I think he is cool *because* he is the
bar-room brawler (this is the ex-biker chic speaking...). Beerswilling
simpletons are quite refreshing after 8 hours a day spent with
coffee-swilling simpletons in suits :-p When I die I hope to end up in
Valhalla as a Valkyrie serving beer to huge blond and blue eyed Viking
Warriors who have a soft spot for Latin girls :-)
< 's not my fault that strange test seemed not to like me. Or maybe like
< me too much. Christian Wicca was my #4, BTW.
I'm guessing that Christian Wicca would be worshipping Jesus and Mary as the
God and the Goddess. That sounds like a great way for Christians who are
anti-catholic church to worship their Gods in not so strict a manner.
Vale,
Diana
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Roman Days in June |
| From: |
"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 13:25:02 +0200 |
|
Salve,
>Welcome! Is it true you're thinking of joining us at Roman Days in June?
http://www.larp.com/legioxx/rdays.html
Is the above the correct link for the Roman Days info ? My father is once
again in the hospital in critical condition, but he is likely to hold on a
bit longer. If nothing happens before then, I am scheduled to go to NYC in
June. Maryland isn't so far away from NYC.
A few questions:
Is anyone going from the area of NYC or New Jersey that I can hitch a ride
with? If not, is Roman Days reachable by public transportation? On the
website there are only directions by car.
I see that on the site there is a list of hotels in the area. Where is
everyone else staying? Or does everyone camp out?
Minervina Iucundia Flavia said:
<I SHALL be at Roman Days in June, courtesy of the infinitely generous Q.
Fabius Maximus. (Alas, I am a po' college student.) Three cheers for
Fabius!
<Something tells me that I will Fabius' love slave for the weekend in
exchange for the airfare.
Hey what's this now Fabius? I thought I was your love slave? Oh that's
right, I'm not the love slave, I'm the sex slave and I am a poor college
graduate and not a poor college student... Ok then, there's no conflict....
:-))
Vale,
Diana Moravia
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Roman Days info |
| From: |
"pjane" <pcassia@novaroma.org> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 12:39:11 -0000 |
|
Greetings!
I'm reposting the Roman Days info I posted earlier. Diana Moravia, I know that
Merlinia Ambrosia Artori plans to be there and is coming from N.J.; otherwise,
we'd be willing to pick you up at the Lanham Metro stop if we can work out
schedules by phone or e-mail ahead of time.
We used to stay at the Red Roof Inn till it burned down a couple of years ago,
and we stayed at the Days Inn that year and found it much nicer for about the
same price. However, it's a popular weekend for graduations and so forth;
book early!
----------------
As those of you who've been around a while know, the fine folks at
Legio XX put on an annual "Roman Days" event in Maryland, and over
the years it's become a good place to meet your fellow Nova Romans as
well.
This year it's June 7 and 8 at the same location, the Marietta
Mansion in Glenn Dale, Md., not too far from Washington, D.C. Events
include military demonstrations, vendors, Roman cooking
demonstrations, a Roman fashion show, and children's activities. Full
details on the event are here: http://www.larp.com/legioxx/rdays.html
Cassius and I are attending as usual, and I've reserved a small block
of rooms for Nova Romans (and their friends!) at the nearby Days Inn
in Lanham, Md. They've promised us a maximum rate of $71.10 per night
(some nights may be less, depending on the kind of room you choose).
If you'd like to take advantage of this, call 1-800-325-2525 and
reserve the room using this confirmation number: 50428395.
Hope to see you there!
Patricia Cassia
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] re: Megalopolis |
| From: |
Patricia Cassia <pcassia@novaroma.org> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 08:47:48 -0400 |
|
Thank you very much for that summary, Quintus Lanius! You did an
excellent job of putting a complex historical situation into a few
words. A good refresher for those of us who knew about the conspiracy,
and a useful introduction for those of us who didn't. And now I'll go
to the movie not expecting to see togas!
-----
Patricia Cassia
Senatrix et Sacerdos Minervalis
Nova Roma . pcassia@novaroma.org
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Land?!?? |
| From: |
Joanne Shaver <merlinia@comcast.net> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 08:53:02 -0400 |
|
Salvete, August Fathers! Merlinia Ambrosia here, with an idea!
At our little Taberna on the Wall event, one of the local SCA folk
went looking for something she'd seen, and found it, knowing what we
wanted. She sent it to me, and I, on to you for examination.
It isn't exactly what we want, but it's a start?
http://www.darkagescommunity.com
Valete!
-M.
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Something Silly |
| From: |
"Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa" <vipsaniusagrippa@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 05:19:24 -0600 |
|
Salve
I just took the test and got Mesopotamian Paganism as my number one choice.
Roman Paganism was number 9. Oddly enough, if you follow the link from
Roman Paganism it takes you to the SVR.
Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa
>From: "crunniuc" <crunniuc@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Nova-Roma] Something Silly
>Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 19:03:34 -0000
>
>I found this "what kind of pagan are you" quiz on selectsmart and got
>Anglo Saxon Heathenry. There is Roman Paganism represented, but I got
>it very far down on my list.
>
>http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=pagantraditions
>
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Something Silly |
| From: |
"Gregory Rose" <gfr@linux.intcon.net> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 11:30:24 -0000 |
|
G. Iulius Scaurus Gn. Salici Asturi salutem dicit.
Salve, Gn. Salix.
> > #25 Christian Wicca (I am I the only one who thinks this is as much
> > an oxymoron as "Jewish Nazism"?)
>
> It does sound quite complicated, yes. However, as someone quite
> familiar with Catholicism, I can assure you that such a thing is by
> no means impossible :-).
I understand that in some sociological circumstances (as opposed to
the official doctrine of the church) the virgin is regarded as somone
close to being part of the godhead, and there are period rumours of a
papal pronouncement of Mary as co-redemptrix (I doubt the Catholic
church will ever do this officially for a number of reasons).
Certainly in the folk religion of many largely Catholic areas there is
a veneration of the virgin which borders on worship of a goddess.
While a sociologist of comparative religion might speak of that sort
of thing as a kind of goddess-worship analytically analogous to Wicca.
The problem is that most Catholics and most Wiccans would find that
sort of analytical terminology extremely distasteful. The Catholics
would cite the prohibition of witchcraft in the Old Testament, the
Pauline denunciation of dabblers in magic, and the remorselessly
insistent characterisation of the triune god as male. The Wiccans
would recall their martyrs (even if the estimates of executions for
witchcraft before the emergence of Protestantism are grossly excessive
-- Protestants were the great witch-burners -- the visceral reaction
would usually be revulsion at a syncretistic association with
Christianity) and feel revulsion. At the level of coherent theology I
have great difficulty thinking that people who want to merge Wicca and
Christianity are being faithful to either tradition.
> (No offence meant towards our Catholic citizens; just a little joke
> :-) ).
Nor did I intend offence, but this sort of marginalised movement
doesn't seem to sit well with either mainstream Wicca or mainstream
Christianity.
Vale.
G. Iulius Scaurus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] NOVA ROMA INTERNATIONAL RALLY 2756 |
| From: |
"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 15:39:31 -0000 |
|
Salvete Omnes
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
NOVA ROMA INTERNATIONAL RALLY 2756 - Bologna [Italia]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I'm proud to invite all of you
to the NOVA ROMA INTERNATIONAL RALLY 2756 , the
Internation Meeting of the Nova Roma citizens.
It will take place from 1st to 3th August 2003 in Bologna,
the ancient Roman Bonomia in Provincia Italia. The
Rally is open to all the citizens of Nova Roma,
their friends and families are all invited take part in
two days of exciting events, interesting classes and
funny Roman days.
You can find detailed informations at
http://aediles.novaroma.org/apulus/meeting
or contacting fraelov@yahoo.it or mcserapio@yahoo.it
or subscribing the official mailing list at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NovaRomanMeeting2003
:: The Program
During the Meeting the participants will meet
other citizens, visit the wonderful city, stay in
beautiful locations discussing Nova Roma and
Classical matters, assist with live demonstrations of military arts,
attend training camps like gladiatorial combats and
cooking, visit the wonderful ancient ruins in the
ancient Regio Augustea called Emilia and more!
The most important event will be the Bonomia
Village, an two day event in the garden of a
wonderful Renaissance's building. During this two
days you can assist with the meetings of
Magistrates, watch the various re-enactment shows,
listen to original Roman music, attend
classes and eat a Roman theme lunch in a natural
location lit by Roman torches.
You can find a detailed program at
http://aediles.novaroma.org/apulus/meeting/program.htm
:: Accomodation
The participants have the possibility to book a
suggested accomodation in a cheap and comfortable
residence. We have two residences, one in the centre
of the city [Piazza Maggiore] and one near the
University in a medieval building. There are flats
with 4, 6 and 8 beds, with bathroom, kitchen, air
conditioning, etc. The price is 35 Euro per person per
night. If you want resevate this residence, the deadline is 10th June
If you want a cheaper or more elegant accomodation
we give you a long list of suggested hotels.
Further informations at
http://aediles.novaroma.org/apulus/meeting/accomodation.htm
:: Bologna, the ancient Bonomia
Bologna is the capital of Italian and European
culture. Here the first University was founded and
here lived famous artists like Petrarca and Dante
Alighieri. It is a medieval and Renaissance city
with wonderful monuments, buildings and museums.
Bologna was founded by Etruscans under the name of Felsina during the
VI sec B.C.
In 189 B.C. Romans placed a latin colony in this area calling
it "Bononia".
Here there is the famous Via Emilia and
this is the land of Etruscans. In this area you can
visit the Roman imperial capital, Ravenna, and other
important Roman cities.
Today Bologna is the most interesting city in Italy
for cultural events. Every day you can find
museums, live music events, shows, expositions, etc.
Further informations at
http://aediles.novaroma.org/apulus/meeting/bologna.htm
:: How to arrive in Bologna
Bologna is in the centre of the Italy, near the
major italian cities like Milan (250 km),
Venice (100 km), Florence (100 km), Rome (250 km).
By car, Bologna is the cross of the most important highways of Italy.
It also is the centre of the rail network and it
has a good airport serving low-cost fights too
(like RyanAir and EasyJet).
:: Prices
We are sorry, but this event has a little
price, 38 Euro per person. Thie is the "ticket"
for the Bonomia Village because we need money to
organize the events, lend the the location, pay the
restaurant, give you something to drink during the
whole day etc.
:: Organization
The Rally 2756 is organized by the Cohors Aedilis Fr. Apulus Caesar
and by the Provincia Italia.
Thanks to Gens Solaria and the local re-enactors for the help.
So, if you want partecipe to the Rally, send the on-line form-mail at
http://aediles.novaroma.org/apulus/meeting/ or contact us privately.
Please, reservate your partecipation sinca June 2003
We'll give you other detailed informations abotu the Rally in the
next weeks.
We suggest you to subscribe the official mailing list at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NovaRomanMeeting2003 where we can
discuss about all of this points.
ENJOY THE RALLY 2756 !!!
Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Senior Curule Aedile
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] LUDI CIRCENSES: updated place-lists |
| From: |
"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 16:00:38 -0000 |
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Salvete Omnes,
another festival is accomplished and we all thank Illustrus Curule
Aedile Gnaeus Equitius Marinus for his job.
Now it's the time to sum the points and update the lists.
The Floreales Ludi gave us the come back of Factio praesina and of
the best Champion essedum by Manius Constantinus Serapio.
In just one game the Greens have taken the same points of Whites and
now Albata and Praesina are first with 41 points.
Russata loose the second position and now it's 15 points far from the
firsts. Where is Veneta?
About the players Octavius Noricus is even in the first position but
the green Constantinus Serapio and Minucius Audens are trying to
conquer the higest place in the podium.
Now the player place-list give us only green and white players.
Cicatrix is trying to save the Russata positions.
Again, where is the Blues? Crassus is alone?
Further informations at http://aediles.novaroma.org/ludicircenses.htm
The members of each Factio choosen their own flag. They and other
news are publishing in the official websites of teh Factiones.
http://aediles.novaroma.org/praesina
http://aediles.novaroma.org/albata
http://aediles.novaroma.org/russata
http://aediles.novaroma.org/veneta
FACTIONES PLACE-LIST
---------------------------
1) ALBATA ... 41 points
2) PRAESINA .. 41
3) RUSSATA ... 26
4) VENETA .... 14
PLAYERS PLACE-LIST
---------------------------
1) Gn. Octavius Noricus .... 13 points
2) Mn. Constantinus Serapio . 10
3) M. Minucius Audens ....... 10
4) G. Vipsanius Agrippa ..... 10
5) M. Iulius Phillipicae .... 7
Valete
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Senior Curule Aedile
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Voting ends.... |
| From: |
"gaiuspopilliuslaenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 16:18:08 -0000 |
|
...tomorrow, so fellow Plebians, if you haven't voted already, you
are probably not going to.
However, if you change your mind, head on over to:
http://www.novaroma.org/cursus_honorum/voting/index.html
And if you are not particularily interested in this election anyway,
why not go ahead and vote for Gaius Popillius Laenas.
He is the last name on the list, so it's easy.
Vale!
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: test / two upcoming movies to look forward to! |
| From: |
me-in-@disguise.co.uk |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 21:37:36 +0100 (BST) |
|
-----Original Message-----
>From : Gregory Rose <gfr@intcon.net>
Date : 10 May 2003 02:55:12
>
>> Boudiccan Rebellion
>> http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_507144.html?menu=
>
>This sounds like another opportunity for a movie to make a mockery of
>history. Of course, Boudicca must have had a “macho lover“ to lead
>the rebellion (Tacitus appears to have taken no notice of the chap,
Aaargh! The most salient point about Boudicca is that she /was/ a 'macho lover'. Ironically, they are repeating exactly the same misconception of relegating her to little woman status that caused the rebellion in the first place. Her husband had his own treaty from his own people but he was only her consort. Very likely Rome knew that but found pretending not to a good excuse to try and extend further North.
Caesariensis
“People who go around getting their panties in a knot when they allow
others to threaten their beliefs usually gain nothing but a sore ass...“
--Gwenius Maximus, 01/26/02
"Oh, go away and think for yourselves!".
"Master, tell us how to go away and think for ourselves". - 'Life of Brian'.
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: test / two upcoming movies to look forward to! |
| From: |
me-in-@disguise.co.uk |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 21:39:38 +0100 (BST) |
|
-----Original Message-----
>From : Gregory Rose <gfr@intcon.net>
Date : 10 May 2003 02:55:12
>
>> Boudiccan Rebellion
>> http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_507144.html?menu=
>
>This sounds like another opportunity for a movie to make a mockery of
>history. Of course, Boudicca must have had a “macho lover“ to lead
>the rebellion (Tacitus appears to have taken no notice of the chap,
Aaargh! The most salient point about Boudicca is that she /was/ a 'macho lover'. Ironically, they are repeating exactly the same misconception of relegating her to little woman status that caused the rebellion in the first place. Her husband had his own treaty from his own people but he was only her consort. Very likely Rome knew that but found pretending not to a good excuse to try and extend further North.
If there's earthquake at Paddington Station when it's released, they can look for her spinning in her grave allegedly under Platform 10.
Caesariensis
“People who go around getting their panties in a knot when they allow
others to threaten their beliefs usually gain nothing but a sore ass...“
--Gwenius Maximus, 01/26/02
"Oh, go away and think for yourselves!".
"Master, tell us how to go away and think for ourselves". - 'Life of Brian'.
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Something Silly |
| From: |
me-in-@disguise.co.uk |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 22:04:02 +0100 (BST) |
|
-----Original Message-----
>From : Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa <vipsaniusagrippa@hotmail.com>
Date : 10 May 2003 12:19:24
Salve
>
>I just took the test and got Mesopotamian Paganism as my number one choice.
>Roman Paganism was number 9. Oddly enough, if you follow the link from
>Roman Paganism it takes you to the SVR.
>
It's a rather odd list. I can't see that many people turning to Lithuanian traditions unless they happen to be Lithuanian. On the other hand, where are Egypt and India or even Slav traditions? I can see very good reasons not to include Mexican tradition; planning permission is difficult for ziggurats and slaughtering people by the coachload with a nice rack of skulls to decorate the house liable to offend the neighbours. Lord Smoking Mirror anyone? I once played a priestess of Tlazolteotl (Filth goddess), a sort of murderous prosititute in Dungeons & Dragons.
Caesariensis
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Something Silly |
| From: |
me-in-@disguise.co.uk |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 22:13:32 +0100 (BST) |
|
-----Original Message-----
>From : Gregory Rose <gfr@linux.intcon.net>
Date : 10 May 2003 12:30:24
>
>I understand that in some sociological circumstances (as opposed to
>the official doctrine of the church) the virgin is regarded as somone
>close to being part of the godhead, and there are period rumours of a
>papal pronouncement of Mary as co-redemptrix (I doubt the Catholic
>church will ever do this officially for a number of reasons).
Most of the Catholic saints are former gods. Bride/Brigitte whom Patrick refused to marry but became a nun instead is still as venerated as when she was Brighid and Paddy unheard of, (Love to know what motivated that tale), but turning Mary into the Goddess just conflicts too much with the Church's insistance that the whole thing is historical. You end up with two divine incarnations and they have already run into the complication that for Jesus to be immaculate, Mary must be too and for her, so must her mother St. Anne and the thing is never-ending.
I've always understood Christian Wicca to be a Wicca that accepts Jesus as a historical Great Initiate teaching a truer understanding of a god beyond gods than roaring old Jehovah. Less Wicca inside Christianity than Jesus as witch. It doesn't do a lot for the Wicca and completely undermines orthodox Christian belief. Jehovah's witnesses who see Jesus as the Archangel Michael and Muslimms, for whom he is the 2nd Great Prophet might go along but I doubt it.
Caesariensis
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Something Silly |
| From: |
"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com> |
| Date: |
Sat, 10 May 2003 22:43:21 -0000 |
|
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Gnaeus Salix Astur"
<salixastur@y...> wrote:
> >
> > No offense taken honest, really. Pay no attention to that big
pole
> > surrounded by the wood. The ropes? Uhm, mountain climbing,
> > honest. Never mind those chants of "2... 4... 6... 8... who do
> > we incinerate?" That's just a little cheerleading practice,
> > honest.
> > <Evil Grin>
> >
> > Q. Cassius Calvus
> It is always nice to see the performance of pagan rituals, even if
> they belong to a different, slightly intolerant tradition ;-).
Let me tell you a little story. I live across the harbor from Salem,
Massachusetts. Once the home of very intolerant Puritans and forever
tainted with the Witchcraft Trials of 1692, Salem is now a "pagan
mecca." One can't swing a dead black cat without hitting a pagan in
Salem, except during tourist season when tourists outnumber residents
about 2-1 during the day and 10-1 during the Halloween season. My
niece happens to be a pagan and I do have pagan friends outside of
Nova Roma. I'm afraid monotheistic traditions do not hold a monopoly
on intolerance. To sum it up in two words, "witch wars."
Q. Cassius Calvus
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