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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Enquiry about Roman sites near Bardolino
From:	"Christine Schofield" <aureliana@tiscali.co.uk>
Date:	Fri, 23 May 2003 07:06:56 +0100

Salvete omnes,

I am lucky enough to be having a short holiday in Bardolino next month.
It is a region of Italy I have not visited before and I was wondering if
anyone could tell me about any Roman sites to visit in the area.

Of course, Verona will be top of my list and I have heard about the
Caves of Catullus at Sirmione and the Roman villa at Desenzano del
Garda, but I'd be very grateful for any other suggestions.

Thanks.

Valete

Gaia Flavia Aureliana

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] =?iso-8859-1?q?Aufsteig_und_Niedergang_der_r=9Amischen_Welt?=
From:	=?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Fri, 23 May 2003 06:27:11 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to the search engine of the table of bibliographic
articles in the 37+ volumes in the print series "Aufsteig und
Niedergang der ršmischen Welt":

http://www.uky.edu/ArtsSciences/Classics/biblio/anrw.html

"Aufsteig und Niedergang der ršmischen Welt" has been one of the most
useful bibliographic tools in Roman studies since its origin in 1972.
One of its great strengths has been the attention it has afforded to
works on religion in the Roman world. Just a random sampling of the
first few screens of this massive resource shows the variety of topics:
Alderink, L.J., "The Eleusinian Mysteries in Roman Imperial Times,"
II.18.2 (1989) 1457-1498;
Attridge, H.W., "The Philosophical Critique of Religion under the
Early Empire," II.16.1 (1978) 45-78;
Badian, E., "Tiberius Gracchus and the Beginning of the Roman
Revolution," I.1 (1972) 668-731;
Barton, I.M., "Capitoline Temples in Italy and the Provinces
(especially Africa)," II.12.1 (1982) 259-342;
Beaujeu, J., "Le paganism romain sous le Haut Empire," II.16.1 (1978)
3-26;
Bendala Galan, M., "Die orientalischen Religionen Hispaniens in
vorršmischer und ršmischer Zeit," II.18.1 (1986) 345-408;
Birley, E., "The Deities of Roman Britain," II.18.1 (1986) 3-112;
Bowie, E.L., "Apollonius of Tyana: Tradition and Reality," II.16.2
(1978) 1652-1699;
Breckenridge, J.D., "Roman Imperial Portraiture from Augustus to
Gallienus," II.12.2 (1981) 477-512;
Breeze, D.J., "The Career Structure below the Centurionate during the
Principate," II.1 (1974) 435-451;
Brenk, F.E., "In the Light of the Moon: Demonology in the Early
Imperial Period," II.16.3 (1986) 2068-2145;
Cardauns, B., "Varro und die ršmische Religion. Zur Theologie,
Wirkungsgeschichte und Leistung der 'Antiquitates Rerum Divinarum,'"
II.16.1 (1978) 80-103.

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus


Subject:	AW: [Nova-Roma] Enquiry about Roman sites near Bardolino
From:	cfd@diocletian.de
Date:	Fri, 23 May 2003 08:46:46 +0200 (CEST)

Salve, Gaia Flavia,

you mentioned the top sites, and I cannot add any others. I visited the
region in 1993. Bardolino is also a fine wine area :-), with it´s famous
Bardolino red wine and the rosé Charietto wine.

Bene Vale
Caius Flavius Diocletianus

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> It is a region of Italy I have not visited before and I was wondering
if 
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> 
> Of course, Verona will be top of my list and I have heard about the 
> Caves of Catullus at Sirmione and the Roman villa at Desenzano del 
> Garda, but I'd be very grateful for any other suggestions. 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Valete 
> 
> Gaia Flavia Aureliana 
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Salvete omnes
From:	"M.Ortiz Saez" <naidane@yahoo.es>
Date:	Fri, 23 May 2003 09:24:44 +0200

Salvete
My name is Maia Didia Gemina Iustina and I am citizen of Nova Roma since only some days ago. However previously I already was Roman citizen, because I live in the city of Mérida, that the ancient called Emerita Augusta, capital of the province o Lusitania. This beautiful city was founded in the year 25 BC by the emperor Augustus by the side of Guadiana river, to recompense the veterans of the legions V Alaudae and X Gemina. Every year, in the months of July and August, a Festival of Classic Theater is celebrated, that I recommend to all those that they have the opportunity to visit Mérida in those dates.For the ones that be interested, this is the official page (in spanish):
http://www.festivaldemerida.com/
Its a beautiful city to live in, because, even though it's a small town, it remember us the greatness of the Empire that it was part of.
P.D. Sorry for my bad english, but its very difficult to me because I'm no used to speak english.

Valete
M. Didia Gemina Iustina

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Enquiry about Roman sites near Bardolino
From:	"Marcus Iulius Perusianus" <m_iulius@virgilio.it>
Date:	Fri, 23 May 2003 11:13:58 -0000

Ave Gaia Aurelia,

may I suggest you to visit my site at:
http://www.geocities.com/milko_anselmi/Roma/geoI10.htm

there are a list of Roman sites in that area (Venetia, corresponding
to modern Italian regions of Veneto, Friuli, Trentino and part of
Lombardia). At the moment you can find also pictures about
amphitheatres, bridges and arches in the regio.

Vale

Marcus Iulius Perusianus
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> I am lucky enough to be having a short holiday in Bardolino next
month.
> It is a region of Italy I have not visited before and I was
wondering if
> anyone could tell me about any Roman sites to visit in the area.
>
> Of course, Verona will be top of my list and I have heard about the
> Caves of Catullus at Sirmione and the Roman villa at Desenzano del
> Garda, but I'd be very grateful for any other suggestions.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Valete
>
> Gaia Flavia Aureliana
>
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Salvete omnes
From:	PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com
Date:	Fri, 23 May 2003 08:47:32 -0400

F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus to M. Didia Gemina Iustina. Salvete, minor soror.

Do not be concerned that your English is poor because it is still much better than my Spanish. It is good to see new citizens of Nova Roma coming from Lusitania. That area of Hispania gave Old Rome a hard time for over 200 years as her warriors were among the fiercest and most stubborn of all the Hispanic tribes. When Augustus finally managed to end the wars in Hispania he did well to establish a colony of veterans at the spot your city now stands. My gens, the Galeria, fought in the Spanish Wars (according to the historian Livy) and may have been in Lusitania. It is my fervent hope that some of the old Galeri blood still flows amongst your people today. Please know that you have a fellow citizen to call upon should you ever visit America Austrorientalis or have need of me on the mainlist. May the Good God and all the other gods give you good health and fortune. Valete.


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Salvete omnes
From:	"gaiuspopilliuslaenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net>
Date:	Fri, 23 May 2003 14:00:27 -0000

Welcome to Nova Roma Maia Didia! and thank you for the links and
information.

>>P.D. Sorry for my bad english, but its very difficult to me
because I'm no used to speak english.<<

Please no need to apologize. Your English is better than that of
some Americans I know :-o.

Vale,
Gaius Popillius Laenas


Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Salvete omnes
From:	"M.Ortiz Saez" <naidane@yahoo.es>
Date:	Fri, 23 May 2003 15:34:43 +0200

Ave, F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus

Thanks for your welcome. I am sorry I can't talk more with you today, but my time it's going to finish for today, and till Monday I will not light my computer again. I'll answer you better then.

Salve

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: On the Census
From:	"J. Mallory" <scribe73dc@yahoo.com>
Date:	Fri, 23 May 2003 06:53:13 -0700 (PDT)

Avete omnes--

It seems to me that this usage would be subject to _exactly_ the same
parsing errors as the current phrasing. Slippery, this English! :)

True indeed! I realized that later in the day. I think the problem is in the "failure to meet" wording, perhaps? Almost any qualifier placed after it can be easily misread. (And I do think it is important that IV be able to stand on its own. Things get amended, so the stable reference in III might shift.)

1. To qualify, you must meet at least one of the following criteria:

<condition1>
<condition2>
<condition3>
<condition4>

2. Failure to do so will result in

<outcome>

OR

2. Failure to meet at least one of the above criteria will result in

<outcome>

That seems clear to me.

Salvete omnes,

L. Modius Rufus

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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Upcoming senate meeting
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Sat, 24 May 2003 00:42:24 +0200

Salve Honorable Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa!

Both my colleague and I have recieved the application, but as
Illustrus Marcus Minucius Audens stated, the application must pass
Sodalitas Militarium. I have contacted Honorable K. M. Tiberius to
describe the procedure. I really hope that this will not in any way
detain Legio XXI Rapax from allying itself with Nova Roma.

As I have no intention to call the Senate to order this month (I have
done so everyone of "my" months until now) and my colleague seem to
have the intention to call the Senate to order in June I am sure that
he will put it on the agenda of the meeting in June.

>Salvete
>
>I was wondering if the affiliation application by Legio XXI Rapax out of
>Calgary, Alberta, Canada was on the Senate`s agenda for the next meeting.
>They sent in the application about ten days ago so it should have been
>recieved by someone. Senator Quintus Fabius Maximus stated in the Sodalitas
>Militarium list that the Senate has to approve all affiliations so I just
>wanted to see if things were proceeding in any way.
>
>Thank you for your time,
>Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa

--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
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Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
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Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Edictum Consulare CFQ VII de Comitiorum Populi
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Sat, 24 May 2003 00:48:19 +0200

Salve Honorable Q. Cassius Calvus!

>Salve Honorable Consul,
>
>Thank you for your clear and concise answers to my questions.

It was my pleasure.

>Just a couple things:
>
>--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
><christer.edling@t...> wrote:
>> Salve Honorable Lucius Modius Rufus!
>>
>
>Cut and paste can be a problem can't it. <G> LOL! Don't worry, to
>err is human and thanks to the internet you can share it with several
>hundred of your closest strangers. <G>

I am truely sorry! You are right, cut and paste can be a problem. I
am glad that You have humor and a forgiving heart. ;-)

> >
>> No problem and I appreciate to talk with You about my law
>proposals,
>> I hope that we can make this a habit to discuss the laws that I
>will
>> propose the following months. ;-)
>>
>> >Vale,
>> >
>> >Q. Cassius Calvus
>
>It would be a pleasure, but remember I can be a feisty disagreeable
>old cuss sometimes.

Well, I will deal with that then when it happens. Until then I will
look forward to talk to You. ;-)

>Vale,
>
>Q. Cassius Calvus

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Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness


Subject:	[Nova-Roma] On the Census, again.
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Sat, 24 May 2003 00:56:30 +0200

Salvete Quirites!

A law proposal can't be changed during contio, so I can only say that
your ideas are registered and hopefully will be applied to the
upcoming Census as far as the proposed Census law allows it. I will
cc this comment to the Censors and recommend them to listen to the
ideas that have been presented during the contio.

The law proposal will because of that stand and the voting will begin
shall begin at 18.00 Roman time Saturday the 24th of May.
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness