Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: attn. factio veneta members
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 00:01:07 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Lucius Pompeius Octavianus"
<danielovi@c...> wrote:
> Salvete omnes.
> I´m planning to have our internal Ludi (for veneta members only) in
> June, let's say about the 20th or so.
> Bene valete
> L. Pompeius Octavianus

Salve L.Pompei Octaviane!

Pienso que el Ludi por miembros venetos solamente es un idea muy
bueno porque Facto Presina es numero uno y va a ser muy dificil
conquistarlo. (bromeo, reis)

English - I think the Ludi for veneta members only is a great idea
because Facto Presina is number 1 and it would be very difficult to
conquer it.

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: NOVA ROMA INTERNATIONAL RALLY 2003
From:	jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date:	Thu, 29 May 2003 20:32:15 -0400 (EDT)

Praefectus Dominus Serapio;

My thanks for your reminder. Unfortunately my wife being a travel
agent; cannot travel during the prime vacation season, it being
necessary that she stay at work and help others to travel during the
month that you have selected..

So I hope that you will all enjoy yourselves to the fullest in Bologna
this summer. If you are able to derive one-half of the pleasure that I
derived from my meeting with the Honored Senior Consul Quintillianus in
Oslo, Norway and his lovely charge!!!), then you will have a rollicking
good time, indeed.

I will keep you all in my mind at the INTERNATIONAL "ROMAN DAYS" EVENT
2003 in Baltimore, Maryland where the Ludi Maximus Gladitore, and the
XXth and XXIVth Legio's and others will strut thier stuff, and where
Roman shops, street vendors and legionaries will rub elbows with Roman
Senators and Gladiators from across the span of three thousand miles of
the United States, and perhaps from Europe and Canada as well.

There will be feasts of Roman Food and Roman wine will flow in small
rivers, while the Senate Elite watch from the comfort of thier cushioned
chairs the Gladiators and Legionaries sweating in the bright sun.

The gleam of Red and Gold as Officers of the Legions move past, together
with the dignified white and purple togas of the Senators.

The thrill of the Gladiator ring and the rush of excitement and blood
lust rising over the arena like an invisible fog as Noxii are sacrificed
in the arena to the crowd's delight, and brave warriors die at the
crowd's desire.

Rich costumes swirl in the streets and pathways, and the sun gleams from
the polished helmets and weapons of the Gladiator Camp, while the long
red and black pennants snap in the breeze. Field exercizes sporting
javelin throwng, running in full armor, one on one legionary combat with
sword and shield, and lovely ladies with sloe eyes tempting tall dark
men in the failing light.

Facinating displays of weapons, clothing , accoutrements line the brick
walkways, and the smell of carnival food floating over all. Bargains
load the vendors shelves and the smell of leather, steel and bronze lend
a thrill as serious customers, labor at a bargain over a spear head or a
diadem for a fair brow.

There will be gatherings in the evening around flickering lamps while
laughter and whispers both abound throughout the night and old friends
(as well as new ones) once again will meet and talk the night away in
the dark warmth of the Old South. The click of shod sandals upon the
stone laid paths making all aware that we are guarded from the spirits
of the night by the watchmen of the Legions.

Yes, my friend I shall miss meeting you all in Bologna face to face, and
I must therefore satisfy myself with such a fare as we will have here on
this far-away outpost beyond the Roman Lake, A sip of wine, a crust of
bread, and a flash of a ladie's ankle must suffice to keep me
entertained in this far-off land, while my desires carry me to whatever
offers on the wind!!!!!.

(He bows his head sadly with just the hint of a grin and a gleam in his
eye, beneath the fluff of his beard!!!!! (-: (-: (-: )

Sooooooooooo, Sadly -- and oh yes Respectfully Too!!!

Marcus Minucius Audens;

The Falernian Night Senator (Grin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

("Lean back on my lap, my dear, and taste this!!!!!," he said with a
smile of assurance, and a flask of Falernian!!!!!!!!)

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucus Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] A quick thank you to Manivs Constantinvs Serapio
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 00:39:34 -0000

Salve Manivs Constantinvs Serapio,

Thank you for the invitation to the NOVA ROMA INTERNATIONAL RALLY. I
will not be able to attend the event, but I do appreciate the
invitation. I hope it is a huge success.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Bresis
From:	jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date:	Thu, 29 May 2003 20:51:06 -0400 (EDT)

Now Fabius!!!!! That sounds terribly like, " kiss and tell!!!!"
(-: (-: (-:

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Bresis
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Thu, 29 May 2003 21:51:10 EDT

In a message dated 5/29/03 5:52:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
jmath669642reng@webtv.net writes:


> That sounds terribly like, " kiss and tell!!!!"

And imagine my surprise when I found out I had posted my reply to the main
list and not to
Iulius alone. Still suffering from jet lag I guess.

Fabius


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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Roman Markt Days in Maine ROAD TRIP!!!!!
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Thu, 29 May 2003 22:36:43 -0400

Salve Romans

I have contacted a charter bus company to get the price of a bus for oh, 47-55 people to go from the Metro Washington, Baltimore area and travel to the

ROMAN MARKET DAYS IN MAINE IN SEPTEMBER 2003


Is there anybody who is interested in this idea?

We could plan to stop and pick people up at different cities on the way?


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus


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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Quintus Fabius Maximus/ Pailinus And Intergity
From:	"deciusiunius" <bcatfd@together.net>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 02:44:10 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael
Kelly)" <mjk@d...> wrote:
> >
> > Oh good Gods, just what Fabius needs, someone to boost his ego!
> We're
> > NEVER going to hear the end of this. ;-)
> >
> > Decius Iunius Palladius
>
>
> Salve Deci,

Salve Pauline,

> I sense you may be implying that I may be hoping to gain brownie
> points and favour by complimenting the proconsul. My fellow
>citizen, nothing could be futher from the truth. I am a man of
>intergity, not ambition. Please do not think that even for a moment.

I wasn't saying that at all, I assumed you said it somewhat tongue in
cheek. I replied in the same vein. I was merely saying, in fun, that
Fabius' famous ego (and he'll be the first to admit its size) doesn't
need such public comparisons. My attempt at humor.

Decius Iunius Palladius

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Bonus Eventus and the Eagle
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Thu, 29 May 2003 22:44:46 -0400

Salve Romans

We are in the process of putting the JUNE Eagle together and with Graduations etc we wanted to remind everybody about the Bonus Eventus section of the Eagle.

It is used for the" Remembrance of important positive events."

So if you or another Roman you know has just recently been married, had the birth or adoption of a child , eared a degree or been promoted in the military or at the job, been elected to public office etc. send the details to the Eagle at spqr753@msn.com


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
Curator Differum






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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: The noblest Roman?
From:	"deciusiunius" <bcatfd@together.net>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 02:53:29 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
<diana@p...> wrote:
> Salvete Iunii,
>
> < Actually, it was my gensmate DeciMus Iunius Silanus who posted
the
> < question. The similar praenomina often confuse people.
>
> Yikes! I'm feeling more like a jerk than usual. My apologies for
>the mix-up gentlemen ! Ok, so I'll have to update my Noble Roman
>list to include a second Iunius!

No reason to feel like a jerk, it's not a big deal and I for one
appreciate the mixup! Not every day one gets to be called one of the
noblest Romans.

Decius Iunius Palladius

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: The noblest Roman?
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Thu, 29 May 2003 23:03:00 -0400

Salve Decius Iunius Palladius

But you are one of the noblest Roman!!!

Vale


Tiberius Galerius Paulinus


----- Original Message -----
From: "deciusiunius" <bcatfd@together.net>
To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:53 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: The noblest Roman?


> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
> <diana@p...> wrote:
> > Salvete Iunii,
> >
> > < Actually, it was my gensmate DeciMus Iunius Silanus who posted
> the
> > < question. The similar praenomina often confuse people.
> >
> > Yikes! I'm feeling more like a jerk than usual. My apologies for
> >the mix-up gentlemen ! Ok, so I'll have to update my Noble Roman
> >list to include a second Iunius!
>
> No reason to feel like a jerk, it's not a big deal and I for one
> appreciate the mixup! Not every day one gets to be called one of the
> noblest Romans.
>
> Decius Iunius Palladius
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] The Armamentarium Bibliography
From:	=?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 05:04:46 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to "The Armamentarium Bibliography":

http://museums.ncl.ac.uk/archive/arma/welc/bibliog.htm

The bibliography is the creation of Dr. Mike Bishop (Honorary Lecturer
in Classics, Univ. Of St. SAndrews) and and Dr. Jon Coulston (Lecturer
in Ancient History and Archaeology, Univ. of St. Andrews). The
bibliography includes citations of 2800+ books, monographs, and
journal articles on every aspect of Roman military history and the
creators have plans to expand with subject bibliographies on Roman
military artefacts, iconography, and restoration/preservation of
archaeological finds.

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Quintus Fabius Maximus
From:	=?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 05:09:01 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus Q. Fabio Maximo salutem dicit

Salve, Q. Fai.

> I have pics if you'd like to see...
> Fabius

Isn't there supposed to be a "nudge, nudge, wink wink" in here
somewhere? I suppose I'll... say no more.

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Quintus Fabius Maximus/ Pailinus And Intergity
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 05:18:41 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "deciusiunius" <bcatfd@t...> wrote:
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael
> Kelly)" <mjk@d...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh good Gods, just what Fabius needs, someone to boost his ego!
> > We're
> > > NEVER going to hear the end of this. ;-)
> > >
> > > Decius Iunius Palladius
> >
> >
> > Salve Deci,
>
> Salve Pauline,
>
> > >
> I wasn't saying that at all, I assumed you said it somewhat tongue
in
> cheek. I replied in the same vein. I was merely saying, in fun,
that
> Fabius' famous ego (and he'll be the first to admit its size)
doesn't
> need such public comparisons. My attempt at humor.
>
> Decius Iunius Palladius

Hi DECI, Lol

Deci, I was just kidding you. I think you missed my warped sense of
humor. Did you read my oath of office for Procurator after i whined
about your posting? Read it over then you'll get it.

Best regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Let's see the pics! was Quintus Fabius Maximus
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 07:27:20 +0200

Salve Q Fabius,

<Well, the diadem...Sigh, it wasn't my idea, I had broken my foot and I was
<getting ready to go out to the Erotic Masquerade ball. My girl at the time
<wanted us to go as Agnamemnon and Bresis. You should have seen her Gracian
see
<thru gown. Anyway I thought that a Mycenaean king would have that as a
symbol
<of his Kingship.
<I have my togas, but with no pics of them. So instead I look like an
<Etruscan monarch in the pic.

Ok now, this is no fair.... Why is her gown see thru and your clothes
aren't? :-p It's still a man's world I guess!

And don't be a tease, let's see the pics! And don't hold out on us: we want
to see the ones you took after the Erotic Masquerade ball too!

Vale,
Diana

Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Annual magistrates was Contra New Census Law
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 07:39:23 +0200

Salve Galerius Aurelianus Secundus,

<Of course, I believe that when he runs again for the magistracy of Curator
Differium, he will be <voted in by an overwhelming majority.

I agree but at the moment the law states that he can not run a second time.

<Of course, I look forward to your spririted, witty, entertaining, and
(sometimes) earthy comments as <well.
LOL! Well, I feel pretty Earthy most of the time too (wink wink nudge nudge
:-)

Vale,
Diana Moravia

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Quintus Fabius Maximus
From:	"deciusiunius" <bcatfd@together.net>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 06:12:06 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, qfabiusmaxmi@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 5/29/03 3:13:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
gfr@i...
> writes:
>
>
> > Not, of
> > course, that I would have passed up the opportunity to examine
Bresis
> > in better light... ah, for purely research purposes, you know :-).
> >
> >
>
> I have pics if you'd like to see...
> Fabius

Please let us know when they're uploaded to the Back Alley's photo
section! ;-)

Vale,

Decius Iunius Palladius

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: The noblest Roman?
From:	"deciusiunius" <bcatfd@together.net>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 06:18:12 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@m...>
wrote:
> Salve Decius Iunius Palladius
>
> But you are one of the noblest Roman!!!


My natural modesty compels me to neither confirm, nor deny this! ;-)


Decius Iunius Palladius

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: A quick thank you to Manivs Constantinvs Serapio
From:	"Manius Constantinus Serapio" <mcserapio@yahoo.it>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 07:28:01 -0000

AVE OPTIME Q CASSI CALVE

> Thank you for the invitation to the NOVA ROMA INTERNATIONAL RALLY.
I
> will not be able to attend the event, but I do appreciate the
> invitation. I hope it is a huge success.


Oh, well... thank you for thanking me :-)
We also hope it is a huge success: that's a team work, and we would
like the NR International Rally in Europe to become an important
event in the future, not only inside NR! :-)
Just start thinking about coming next year! ;-)

OPTIME VALE
M'Con.Serapio
Qvaestor

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Absentia & thank yous (long!)
From:	"Diana Moravia Aventina" <diana@pandora.be>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 10:03:57 +0200

Sorry for the cross posting!

Salvete citizens,

After a 6 year battle against various diseases, yesterday morning my father
joined 2 of his brothers, his 4 sisters and various family pets in the
Elysian Fields. I can only hope that my father finds the peace in the
afterlife that eluded him in this lifetime.

I ask anyone who has a spare moment to send a positive thought to my mother
and to ask their God to give her strength during what is by far the worst
thing she's had to deal with in her life. She is close to a mental collapse
due to the strain of 6 years of watching my father degenerate day by day
until only 3 machines and multiple medications kept him bound to this Earth.

I will be leaving tomorrow morning for NYC and returning on Sunday June 15.
I'll bring my ancient laptop with me and will be in email contact again as
of next week, but until my return June 15, supporting my mother will take
precedent over my duties as Tribune. Anyone who needs me can email
diana_aventina@yahoo.com

Those who have private contact with me know that through my entire term as
Tribune, each month has brought a new catastrophe in my personal life.
Through it all, many citizens have sent me emails offering their moral
support. And this is why I truly believe that even when there is political
bickering going on on this list, the citizens here really care about one
another. This is why I think of Nova Roma as a family and like every family,
we don't always agree and just get on each other's nerves now and then. Ok,
I realize that I just short-circuited the Fluffy Bunny meter with that
comment :-)))

I would particularly like to thank the Collegium Pontificium for their
support at the beginning of April, when things seems so dark & hopeless that
even my faith in the Gods had wavered. Their emails let me see things once
again in the right perspective. So a gigantic thank you to: Marcus Cassius
Julianus, Q Fabius Maximus and Lucius Equitius Cinncinnatus for dragging me
out of a deeper depression than I thought was possible. And a gigantic thank
you also to Quintus Lanius Paulinus for his perceptive email that really
helped me to 'snap me out of it'.

A big thank you goes to the following citizens for the moral support that
they've offered me since this chaotic period began on Jan 1 2003: our
Consules T Fortunatus & C Fabius, Censor M Octavius, our Praetores D Iunius
& G Salix, Senatores P Cassia & L Cornelius, my fellow Tribunes M Marcius, L
Pompeianus, & L Didius Geminus, Rogatores Q Cassius & Renata Corva, 3
Aediles F Apulus, L Arminius & G Equitius, Curator Differum T Galerius
Paulinus, Curator Araneum T Octavius, Mercurius Apollonius Stefanus, G.
Popillius Laenas, G Modius Athanasius, F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus, G
Fabia Livia, C Minucius Scaevola, A Apollonius Cordus, A Apollonius Scipio,
M Constantinus Serapio, C Curius Saturninus & last but not least my
gensmates Arnamentia, Cunctator, Laureatus & Demetrius. I hope that I didn't
forget anyone!

You've all helped me to keep the love of all of God's creatures in my heart,
my silly sense of humour, and the usual goofy smile on my face! A dark cloud
keeps threatening to overtake me, but thanks to you all, I remain one giant
step ahead of it and I can clearly see the Sun shining above me!

With love & big kiss!

Valete,
Diana Moravia Aventina




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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: [SenatusRomanus] Absentia & thank yous (long!)
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 10:15:35 +0200

Salve Illustra Diana Moravia Aventina!

I am so very sorry and will include You and your family in my
prayers. I will also send a special thought to your mother and
include her in a special prayer.

>Sorry for the cross posting!
>
>Salvete citizens,
>
>After a 6 year battle against various diseases, yesterday morning my
>father joined 2 of his brothers, his 4 sisters and various family
>pets in the Elysian Fields. I can only hope that my father finds the
>peace in the afterlife that eluded him in this lifetime.

--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Absentia & thank yous (long!)
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 08:24:54 -0000

Salve Diana,

I'm very sad and displeased, I know what happens in your life during
the last months and I tried to give you positive words, I hope they
were useful.
Now I wish your father should be happy and quiet in the Elysian
Fields or in anywhere he's now. I hope your pain go to the end as
soon as possible. Please, give the biggest kiss to your mother and I
embrace you.

Vale
Fr. Apulus CAesar

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
<diana@p...> wrote:
> Sorry for the cross posting!
>
> Salvete citizens,
>
> After a 6 year battle against various diseases, yesterday morning
my father
> joined 2 of his brothers, his 4 sisters and various family pets in
the
> Elysian Fields. I can only hope that my father finds the peace in
the
> afterlife that eluded him in this lifetime.
>
> I ask anyone who has a spare moment to send a positive thought to
my mother
> and to ask their God to give her strength during what is by far
the worst
> thing she's had to deal with in her life. She is close to a mental
collapse
> due to the strain of 6 years of watching my father degenerate day
by day
> until only 3 machines and multiple medications kept him bound to
this Earth.
>
> I will be leaving tomorrow morning for NYC and returning on Sunday
June 15.
> I'll bring my ancient laptop with me and will be in email contact
again as
> of next week, but until my return June 15, supporting my mother
will take
> precedent over my duties as Tribune. Anyone who needs me can email
> diana_aventina@y...
>
> Those who have private contact with me know that through my entire
term as
> Tribune, each month has brought a new catastrophe in my personal
life.
> Through it all, many citizens have sent me emails offering their
moral
> support. And this is why I truly believe that even when there is
political
> bickering going on on this list, the citizens here really care
about one
> another. This is why I think of Nova Roma as a family and like
every family,
> we don't always agree and just get on each other's nerves now and
then. Ok,
> I realize that I just short-circuited the Fluffy Bunny meter with
that
> comment :-)))
>
> I would particularly like to thank the Collegium Pontificium for
their
> support at the beginning of April, when things seems so dark &
hopeless that
> even my faith in the Gods had wavered. Their emails let me see
things once
> again in the right perspective. So a gigantic thank you to: Marcus
Cassius
> Julianus, Q Fabius Maximus and Lucius Equitius Cinncinnatus for
dragging me
> out of a deeper depression than I thought was possible. And a
gigantic thank
> you also to Quintus Lanius Paulinus for his perceptive email that
really
> helped me to 'snap me out of it'.
>
> A big thank you goes to the following citizens for the moral
support that
> they've offered me since this chaotic period began on Jan 1 2003:
our
> Consules T Fortunatus & C Fabius, Censor M Octavius, our Praetores
D Iunius
> & G Salix, Senatores P Cassia & L Cornelius, my fellow Tribunes M
Marcius, L
> Pompeianus, & L Didius Geminus, Rogatores Q Cassius & Renata
Corva, 3
> Aediles F Apulus, L Arminius & G Equitius, Curator Differum T
Galerius
> Paulinus, Curator Araneum T Octavius, Mercurius Apollonius
Stefanus, G.
> Popillius Laenas, G Modius Athanasius, F. Galerius Aurelianus
Secundus, G
> Fabia Livia, C Minucius Scaevola, A Apollonius Cordus, A
Apollonius Scipio,
> M Constantinus Serapio, C Curius Saturninus & last but not least my
> gensmates Arnamentia, Cunctator, Laureatus & Demetrius. I hope
that I didn't
> forget anyone!
>
> You've all helped me to keep the love of all of God's creatures in
my heart,
> my silly sense of humour, and the usual goofy smile on my face! A
dark cloud
> keeps threatening to overtake me, but thanks to you all, I remain
one giant
> step ahead of it and I can clearly see the Sun shining above me!
>
> With love & big kiss!
>
> Valete,
> Diana Moravia Aventina
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Quintus Fabius Maximus
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 08:35:30 -0000

Salve Cordus

> Well, there's an idea for the Aediles - how about a
> 'Romans past & present' look-alike contest at the next
> games?

mmhmhmhm ... funny game .... please increase your idea for the next
Ludi in September! ;-)

Vale
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Senior Curule Aedile

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Quintus Fabius Maximus
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 08:40:28 -0000

Salve Maximus

Erotic Masquerade ball??!!!
... where is the famous conservation of the customs of our Fathers
and religious men??!!! LOL ;-))))
Who save us from the temptation of a spice and luxurious life...?! ;-
P

Vale
Fr. Apulus Caesar


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, qfabiusmaxmi@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 5/28/03 9:13:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
gfr@i...
> writes:
>
>
> > My question is: what's a Roman senator doing wearing a diadem?
Or is
> > that just my old, failing eyesight? :-).
> >
>
> Well, the diadem...Sigh, it wasn't my idea, I had broken my foot
and I was
> getting ready to go out to the Erotic Masquerade ball. My girl at
the time
> wanted us to go as Agnamemnon and Bresis. You should have seen
her Gracian see
> thru gown. Anyway I thought that a Mycenaean king would have that
as a symbol
> of his Kingship.
> I have my togas, but with no pics of them. So instead I look like
an
> Etruscan monarch in the pic.
> Bummer!
>
> Q. Fabius Maximus
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re:shooting my mouth off
From:	"jachthondus" <rompy@xs4all.nl>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 12:06:42 -0000

Here is another "little-sister", who happens to dislike your answer
to one Violentilla Titiana Saltatrix, dear Mr. F.Galerius Aurelianus
Secundus!!!...

What a scholary-Roman-"blah-blah-blah-blah", "little brother"....

Greetings, Jachthondus.


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@a... wrote:
> F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus to Violentilla Titinia Saltatrix.
Salve.
>
> I believe you have found out the most ill-kept secret in NR. We
love to argue, debate, pontificate, abuse, insult, trade low-flying
innuendoes and repartee, and generally indulge ourselves in a mud-
slinging, old-fashioned political donnybrook. I think we like it
more than SCA Laurels like to count threads and nit-pick research.
> However, don't think that we go on like this all the time. This
little shindig has been going on over a major change in the census
structure for NR to try to keep our organization open to a goodly
number of inactive members who may have been disillusioned by
previous donnybrooks.
> NR is built upon a basic group of ideals that are among the most
admirable in history and continue to be sought after by many
civilized humans to this day. The Religio is particularly suited to
the modern pagan as a modified reconstruction that suits both the
urbanite and rural pagan. Do not be discouraged by the occasional
ramblings of a few overbearing (but often well meaning) citizens.
Look on the bright points such as the newly revived Eagle, the
continuing research into the Religio, the plans for provinicial
events that are developing. Always remember, little sister, that NR
is still in the act of becoming something that will move out of the
internet and into our world. You can be a part of that as many of
our citizens are doing. Please stay in touch with me and those that
are like-minded to you (the sacerdos of Venus, for instance). There
is so much for those with humor, will, and patience to do in Nova
Roma. May Venus and Diana grant you good fortune. Vale.

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Post.
From:	"jachthondus" <rompy@xs4all.nl>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 12:20:51 -0000

May I ask You, Honourable-Romans: Where is my last message?

Jachthondus.

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Post.
From:	"Decimus Iunius Silanus" <danedwardsuk@yahoo.co.uk>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 12:30:35 -0000

Salve,

As a new subscriber to this list, you are currently on moderated
status. Your posts are currently reviewed by a list moderator prior
to being forwarded for general consumption.

Providing you adhere to the list guidelines, you will be taken off
moderated status in due course.

Vale

Decimus Iunius Silanus
Scriba Praetoris.


> May I ask You, Honourable-Romans: Where is my last message?
>
> Jachthondus.

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] To Tribuna Diana
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 13:00:17 -0000

Diana,

You have all my sympathies and prayers for your father. I'm sure he
will be happy and keeping an eye on his girl in the next world.

I'll be sending you a private note in the next day or two; I have a
plane to catch in 1 hr to go to work up North but take care and all
the best!

Your friend and fellow citizen,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] The see-through gown
From:	jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 09:06:33 -0400 (EDT)

Warning!!!! Warning!!! Warning!!! Warning!!!
An attempt at hmor approaching!!!!!!

Ah, lovely Diana;

There surely is a reason for the difference. In my humble opinion, I
would assume that while Bresis in a see-through gown might be a sight to
"launch a thousand ships" -- I fear that like myself and others that I
know Senator Fabius Maximus (pardon my familiarity Senator) in a
see-through gown would most likely "sink them!!!!!!!" (-: (-: (-:

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Absentia & thank yous (long!)
From:	"Julilla Sempronia Magna" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 14:51:58 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
<diana@p...> wrote:
> Sorry for the cross posting!

My deepest sympathies to you, your mater and your family. I know the
pain of losing a father and hope that, in time, when these sad days
are behind you that the memory of many happy days you have spent with
him will return.

---
cura ut valeas,
@____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
@____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
||||

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] The see-through gown
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 11:49:10 EDT

In a message dated 5/30/03 6:09:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jmath669642reng@webtv.net writes:


> I fear that like myself and others that I
> know Senator Fabius Maximus (pardon my familiarity Senator) in a
> see-through gown would most likely "sink them!!!!!!!" (-: (-: (-:
>
>

Humorous reply.

Actually my legs look quite good in a gown...Leastwise Dex thought so,
who am I to contradict a Greek connoisseur? :-)

Fabius


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Absentia & thank yous (long!)
From:	"Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia" <arnamentia_aurelia@yahoo.com>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 16:40:32 -0000

Dear Diana,

I'd like to add my deepest condolences, and to say that we are here
for you and your mother, with hugs and smiles and whatever you may
need.

take very good care of yourself,
Arnamentia


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Julilla Sempronia Magna"
<curatrix@v...> wrote:
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
> <diana@p...> wrote:
> > Sorry for the cross posting!
>
> My deepest sympathies to you, your mater and your family. I know
the
> pain of losing a father and hope that, in time, when these sad days
> are behind you that the memory of many happy days you have spent
with
> him will return.
>
> ---
> cura ut valeas,
> @____@ Julilla Sempronia Magna
> |||| www.villaivlilla.com/
> @____@ Daily Life in Ancient Rome
> ||||

Subject:	RE: [Nova-Roma] Annual magistrates was Contra New Census Law
From:	"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Apollonius=20Cordus?=" <cordus@strategikon.org>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 19:47:56 +0100 (BST)

A. Apollonius to all citizens and peregrines,
greetings.

Our Tribune wrote:

> I agree but at the moment the law states that he can
> not run a second time.

This is something that I sometimes wonder about. I
notice the relevant law (a Salic one I think, though I
may be wrong) calls this an 'ancient prohibition' -
from what period does it date?

And was it ever legal, or just customary (though I
know the Romans didn't strongly distinguish between
those two categories). By my recollection it was legal
(though possibly unprecedented) for Ti. Sempronius
Gracchus to hold the Tribunate twice in succession in
the 130s BC; I don't know about other magistracies.

I can see a sort of Roman logic to it - preventing
accumulation of power - but the democrat in me says,
'surely if the voters want the same person in a job
twice in a row they should be permitted', and the
lover of efficiency in me says, 'surely it would be
useful for jobs which benefit from hands-on experience
and special skills to be exempt from this, especially
when we have a shortage of candidates for some
offices'.

Is anyone able to enlighten me?

Cordus

=====


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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Annual magistrates was Contra New Census Law
From:	PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 15:33:58 -0400

Salic law did not become an issue until after the Salic Franks invaded the Empire in the middle of the fourth century CE. Essentially, Salic law deals with inheritance not the elected offices, so would not bear on this case.
The offices of censor, vicars, consul, tribunes, quaestors, rogators, and curators (curates) all existed in Rome through the Imperial period but did not always mean the same thing. I cannot find a historical version of the Curator Differum or the Curator Arcanem. It might be a good idea to propose to the Consuls that these two offices might be exempted from the current laws or have a lex written for them. Of course, if one or both of the curators took on an accensus who was being trained to succeed them and would follow the existing policies, it would probably result in a smoother transition of the office.

F Gal Aur Sec

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: [Nova Roma] See-through gown
From:	"Mary Beth Clemons" <flaviaspqr@sailormoon.com>
Date:	Sat, 31 May 2003 04:18:51 +0800

Hey, have a little consideration for those of us who are going to be riding with Fabius this weekend from the airport to Lanham. There won't be enough room for me with his big head. (Unless he gets a convertible.)

Looks like I'm riding in the trunk,

Minervina Iucundia Flavia


----- Original Message -----
From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 11:49:10 EDT
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] The see-through gown

In a message dated 5/30/03 6:09:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jmath669642reng@webtv.net writes:


> I fear that like myself and others that I
> know Senator Fabius Maximus (pardon my familiarity Senator) in a
> see-through gown would most likely "sink them!!!!!!!" (-: (-: (-:
>
>

Humorous reply.

Actually my legs look quite good in a gown...Leastwise Dex thought so,
who am I to contradict a Greek connoisseur? :-)

Fabius


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Famous Roman Leaders and Rulers
From:	"gaiuspopilliuslaenas" <ksterne@bellsouth.net>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 20:29:49 -0000

Salvete Omnes,

I just picked up two books others may find of interest:

"Chronicle of the Roman Republic; The Rulers of Ancient Rome from
Romulus to Augustus", by Philip Matyszak

And

"Chronicle of the Roman Emperors; the Reign by Reign Record of the
Rulers of Imperial Rome", by Chris Scarre

They are "sister" volumes with similar formats. They have tons of
pictures and illutsrations, and the Republic book profiles all of
the usual suspects along with others such as Poplicola, Coriolanus,
Claudius Marcellus, etc.

The major sources are Polybius, Cicero, Livy, Valerius Maximus and
Plutarch for the Republic, and Aurelius Victor, Dio, Eusebius,
Euterpius, Herodian, Suetonius, and Tacitus for the Empire.

They are impressive volumes. Cives so inclined should check them
out. Just to be complete :-), here are the Amazon links:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/102-8745817-
2151325

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index%3Dbooks%
26field-keywords%3DChronicle%20of%20the%20roman%20empire%26url%
3Dindex%3Dbooks%26store-name%3Dbooks/102-8745817-2151325

Valete,
Gaius Popillius Laenas

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Absentia & thank yous (long!)
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 21:00:38 -0000

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
<diana@p...> wrote:
> Sorry for the cross posting!
>
> Salvete citizens,
>
> After a 6 year battle against various diseases, yesterday morning
my father
> joined 2 of his brothers, his 4 sisters and various family pets in
the
> Elysian Fields. I can only hope that my father finds the peace in
the
> afterlife that eluded him in this lifetime.

Salve Diana,

Know that my personal prayers of peace and love are with you and your
family at this sad time. I too lost my father after he suffered from
heart disease that slowly robbed him of the things he enjoyed in
life.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Today at the bookstore...
From:	"quintuscassiuscalvus" <richmal@attbi.com>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 21:02:46 -0000

Salve,

Today I was at my local Borders and noticed in their display of
various "Idiot's Guide to...." the "Idiot's Guide to Paganism." Out
of curiosity I picked it up and looked at the index to see if it had
anything to say about Roman Reconstructionism. It had a whole seven
sentence paragraph that mentioned a list of various resources. I
looked at the resource list and Nova Roma made the Idiot's Guide to
Paganism resource list.

Vale,

Q. Cassius Calvus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
From:	"Violentilla Titinia Saltatrix" <jademermaid@aol.com>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 21:55:51 -0000

---------------------------------


I apologize for taking up NR bandwidth, but Tiberius, your email
seems to be down. Please contact me.

Violentilla.

----------------------------------

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Post.
From:	"jachthondus" <rompy@xs4all.nl>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 22:15:59 -0000

Greetings to You, You Honourable Mr."Decimus Iunius Silanus", Scriba
Praetoris of the Nova-Roma-Group.

How lovely that I am "currently on moderated status", etc. etc.
This does say a-lot about your historian-professionality!

May I ask You why?

Did I ever "insult" any-member of this Group, simply by having asked
some-critical-questions?
YES: This seems to be the case!

You don't want any criticism from Professional-Historians, do You?
"You will be taken off moderated status in due course"...

(Boys-oh-boys... I can't sleep anylonger, I fear...

And now, Mr. Scriba Preatoris from a Group which only deals with
people who merely seem to be interested in a "Cursus Honorum" in a
nowadays "Roman-Fairy-Tail-Empire", I'm very curious whether You'll
have the guts to give comment on this message on your posting-list!

And, (may I so free to ask): How many of Your members are Historians,
specialized in Ancient-History?

With Kindest Regards,

Jachthondus.







--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Decimus Iunius Silanus"
<danedwardsuk@y...> wrote:
> Salve,
>
> As a new subscriber to this list, you are currently on moderated
> status. Your posts are currently reviewed by a list moderator prior
> to being forwarded for general consumption.
>
> Providing you adhere to the list guidelines, you will be taken off
> moderated status in due course.
>
> Vale
>
> Decimus Iunius Silanus
> Scriba Praetoris.
>
>
> > May I ask You, Honourable-Romans: Where is my last message?
> >
> > Jachthondus.

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Post.
From:	"Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia" <arnamentia_aurelia@yahoo.com>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 22:25:15 -0000

Salve!

Please do not take "moderated status" as a ststement about you
personally. Every new member is moderated at first.

Arnamentia


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "jachthondus" <rompy@x> wrote:
> Greetings to You, You Honourable Mr."Decimus Iunius Silanus",
Scriba
> Praetoris of the Nova-Roma-Group.
>
> How lovely that I am "currently on moderated status", etc. etc.
> This does say a-lot about your historian-professionality!
>
> May I ask You why?
>
> Did I ever "insult" any-member of this Group, simply by having
asked
> some-critical-questions?
> YES: This seems to be the case!
>
> You don't want any criticism from Professional-Historians, do You?
> "You will be taken off moderated status in due course"...
>
> (Boys-oh-boys... I can't sleep anylonger, I fear...
>
> And now, Mr. Scriba Preatoris from a Group which only deals with
> people who merely seem to be interested in a "Cursus Honorum" in a
> nowadays "Roman-Fairy-Tail-Empire", I'm very curious whether You'll
> have the guts to give comment on this message on your posting-list!
>
> And, (may I so free to ask): How many of Your members are
Historians,
> specialized in Ancient-History?
>
> With Kindest Regards,
>
> Jachthondus.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Decimus Iunius Silanus"
> <danedwardsuk@y...> wrote:
> > Salve,
> >
> > As a new subscriber to this list, you are currently on moderated
> > status. Your posts are currently reviewed by a list moderator
prior
> > to being forwarded for general consumption.
> >
> > Providing you adhere to the list guidelines, you will be taken
off
> > moderated status in due course.
> >
> > Vale
> >
> > Decimus Iunius Silanus
> > Scriba Praetoris.
> >
> >
> > > May I ask You, Honourable-Romans: Where is my last message?
> > >
> > > Jachthondus.

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Post.
From:	Fortunatus <labienus@novaroma.org>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 17:39:32 -0500

Salve Jachthonde

>How lovely that I am "currently on moderated status", etc. etc.
>This does say a-lot about your historian-professionality!
>
>May I ask You why?
>

Everyone who joins this email list is automatically on moderated status
for a while. This is done to discourage spammers, trolls, and other
people who join purely to disrupt the list. You haven't been singled
out for special treatment, nor are you being punished.

Vale
T Labienus Fortunatus

--
May pre house the seamy side volitation!!!

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Post.
From:	"Gnaeus Salix Astur" <salixastur@yahoo.es>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 22:51:27 -0000

Salvete Quirites; et salve, Mr. Jachthondus.

--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "jachthondus" <rompy@x> wrote:
> Greetings to You, You Honourable Mr."Decimus Iunius Silanus",
> Scriba Praetoris of the Nova-Roma-Group.
>
> How lovely that I am "currently on moderated status", etc. etc.
> This does say a-lot about your historian-professionality!
>
> May I ask You why?

As others have pointed out, every new subscriber to this mailing list
is initially placed under moderation.

We have been forced to do this in order to avoid spammers, hit-and-
run insults and other nasty things.

However, as long as you behave in a reasonable manner, your messages
will reach this mailing list. Criticism is not enough to set the
moderation process into motion. Besides that, it has been a policy of
our current praetorial staff to inform *all* the subscribers of this
mailing list whenever a message has had to be moderated.

> Did I ever "insult" any-member of this Group, simply by having
> asked some-critical-questions?
> YES: This seems to be the case!

No; it is not the case. You are under moderation, but none of your
messages has been deleted. They all have reached this mailing list.

> You don't want any criticism from Professional-Historians, do You?

We do have some professional historians among our members.

> "You will be taken off moderated status in due course"...
> (Boys-oh-boys... I can't sleep anylonger, I fear...
>
> And now, Mr. Scriba Preatoris from a Group which only deals with
> people who merely seem to be interested in a "Cursus Honorum" in a
> nowadays "Roman-Fairy-Tail-Empire", I'm very curious whether You'll
> have the guts to give comment on this message on your posting-list!

I guess that these impressions of yours are being proven wrong.

> And, (may I so free to ask): How many of Your members are
> Historians, specialized in Ancient-History?

Not as many as we would like, of course. But a few of them are. We
have university professors from both sides of the Atlantic, after all.

CN·SALIX·ASTVR·T·F·A·NEP·TRIB·OVF
PRAETOR

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re:shooting my mouth off
From:	=?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2003 23:58:24 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus Jachthondo salutem dicit.

Salve, Jackthonde.

Others have explained the reasons for which every new subscriber to
this list is placed on moderated status and I hope you now understand
that you have not been singled out for censorship.

> Here is another "little-sister", who happens to dislike your answer
> to one Violentilla Titiana Saltatrix, dear Mr. F.Galerius Aurelianus
> Secundus!!!...
>
> What a scholary-Roman-"blah-blah-blah-blah", "little brother"....

However, there seems to be an equally mistaken assumption in your
criticism of F. Galerius Aurelianus Secundus. It may have missed your
obsevation, but the message from F. Galerius was addressed to
_Violentilla_ Titiana Saltatrix. Note that the praenomen is a
diminutive. Addressing someone whose praenomen is a feminine
diminutive as "little sister" is not necessarily the condescending
thing you take it to be (BTW, the praenomen Violentilla in attested in
a funerary inscription from Rome, AE 1953, 59). If Violentilla
Titiana Saltatrix is offended, I am certain she is capable of telling
him herself.

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus
(who does happen to be an associate professor of history with active
research interest in late classical antiquity in the Latin west).

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Lex Fabia de Censo is approved
From:	Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com>
Date:	Sat, 31 May 2003 01:52:23 +0200

Salvete Quirites!

Voting in the Comitia Populi Tributa has concluded. The Lex Fabia de
Censo has been approved, with 34 tribes voting and 26 tribes voting
in favor and 8 tribes (7 tied) voting against.

I hereby thank the Populus for their approval and hope to soon
present a new law!

I hereby ask the Curator Araneum to see to it that this law is
included in the Tabularium.

I also thank the Rogatores for their hard work and hope that they are
ready to deal with my next proposal soon. ;-)
--

Vale

Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
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