Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Salve from a new Citizen
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Tue, 03 Jun 2003 00:31:50 -0000

Salve Marcelle,

Let me echo the sentiments of my friends Gaius Falco and Sp.
Postumius Tubertus. Welcome! We are delighted to see a new member
coming into our Res Republica. NR seems to have a steep learning
curve but it is never too overwhelming because of the guidance
available by her citizens. Don't hesitate to ask any questions and
those questions we may not know, someone else here will. Enjoy Nova
Roma and we look forward to your postings.

Vale bene,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Sp. Postumius Tubertus"
<postumius@g...> wrote:
> Salve Marcelle Tiberi,
>
> I'm generally long-winded, as some of the people her would tell
you. But to be brief, I think I just may like you, Marcelle Tiberi,
as though it matters. And the best of luck and fortune to you as well.
>
> Vale,
>
> Sp. Postumius Tubertus
>
> "Nam nemo sine vitiis nascitur; optimus ille est qui minima
habet." -- Q. Horatius Flaccus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] June listings on History Channel
From:	lanius117@aol.com
Date:	Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:16:37 EDT

Salvete omnes,

Here are a few programs that you may want to view the first half of June:

June 5 11:00 pm EDST
World Conflict. Foot Soldier: The Romans. Host Richard Karn looks at the
Roman legionnaires, who conquered and dominated most of the known world for 500
years, and left behind a legacy of language, culture, architecture, and
government.

June 8 8:00 pm EDST
Almanac. The Great Empire: Rome: The Republic of Rome. A sweeping chronicle
of one of history's most dynamic empires. Part 1 features the city's founding
by Romulus and Remus; overthrow of the Etruscan monarchy; and the republic's
formation and ultimate undoing with the rise of imperial Rome. Host Joe Mantegna
introduces Rome's great faces - Pompey, Cicero, Caesar, Antony, and
Cleopatra.

June 8 9:00 pm EDST
Almanac. The Great Empire: Rome: Age of Emperors. After Caesar's murder, his
great-nephew Augustus was victorious in the civil wars that followed, becoming
the first emperor. Host Joe Mantegna explores this sensational scandalous age
when palace plots, hostile takeovers, and imperial family intrigues were
humdrum. Features Augustus, Caligula, Claudius, and Nero, among others.

June 8 10:00 pm EDST
Almanac. The Great Empire: Rome: Building an Empire. Host Joe Mantegna visits
the vast territories conquered by the imperial army - by the 2nd century AD,
the empire spanned three continents. The over 4,000 Roman cities were cultural
melting pots, where diverse customs and beliefs blended. Features life in
Pompeii, the flamboyant emperor Hadrian, and religious revolts in Judea.

June 8 11:00 pm EDST
Almanac. The Great Empire: Rome: The Enduring Legacy. The final episode
reveals the birth of Christianity and how this religion that the emperors initially
tried to destroy ultimately passed on the empire's legacy. Highlights
include: the crucifixion of Jesus; religious persecutions; rise of Constantine, the
first emperor to embrace Christianity; and Justinian, Rome's last emperor.

June 12 11:00 pm EDST
World Conflict. Foot Soldier: The Greeks. Story of the brave Greek warriors,
who adorned themselves in gold, fought under Alexander the Great, and became a
virtually unstoppable ancient war machine. Host: Richard Karn.


Valete,

G. Lanius Falco


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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: The Lex-----is approved.
From:	=?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Tue, 03 Jun 2003 01:40:07 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus Q. Fabio Maximo salutem dicit

Salve, Q. Fabi.

> Good, now we are all in agreement...CAN WE GET ON WITH IT?

As you know, I agree wholeheartedly that the census is of enormous
importance to the republic, but the law specifies that it will be
conducted for sixteen weeks, ending on Oct. 31. That places the
beginning of the census on July 12. I don' think it unreasonable to
give the censores a bit more than a month to make the necessary
arrangements for conducting the census. If the census hasn't started
by then, I shall be among the loudest demanding action, but it seems
only fair to withhold such a demand until the time specified by law
for the census to begin.

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Salve from a new Citizen
From:	"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com>
Date:	Mon, 2 Jun 2003 22:52:39 -0400

Salve Marcellus Tiberius and Welcome

Just remember that on MOST days the Citizens of NR are:

mild mannered, cultured, courteous, plan spoken, serious , and simple people

THEN THEY WAKE UP AND TURN ON THEIR COMPUTERS AND START TO READ FROM THE
MAIN LIST.

As Betty Davis once said in a movie

" Hold on it going to be a bumpy ride"


Vale

Tiberius Galerius Paulinus

PS please take everything on the ML with a grain of salt


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To: <Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 7:23 PM
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Salve from a new Citizen


> Just a brief message saying hello to all of the citizens of New
> Rome.
>
> I have read a few of the threads.. Hmm.
>
> I see it this way we are all here for different reasons and should
> try to understand that. I look forward to having fun and learning
> something here and not indulging in e-flame ego wars like in
> other groups that gets rather tedious.
>
> Not pointing a gladius at anyone you understand.
>
> Vale, and all the Muses to you.
> Marcellus Tiberius
>
>
>
>
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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] June Listings on History Channel
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Tue, 03 Jun 2003 03:00:43 -0000

Salve Gai,

Thanks for the information and all the time you spent to get it to us.

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Lupa Capitolina Electronica
From:	=?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Tue, 03 Jun 2003 04:25:56 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus Claudiae Fabiae Calpurniae salutem dicit.

Salve, Claudia Fabia.

Thank you for posting the Altavista Babelfish machine translation URL.
So much really good scholarship available on the net is not in
languages spoken by all Nova Romans. Free Translation's service at
http://ets.freetranslation.com/ provides machine translation for a few
languages which Altavista does not. Of course, machine translation is
still in its infancy and the results are frequently difficult to
decipher if one doesn't have a rudimentary understanding of the syntax
of the languages involved and some familiarity with the subject of the
material being machine-translated. I apologise if anyone has been
offput by the posting of so many links to sites in languages other
than the English in which most Nova Romans communicate here, but we
are an international macronation and excellent classical scholarship
can be found in many languages.

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus
(who reads French, but, when speaking it, sounds, as a French friend
put it, "like a German soldier"; since my friend was a maquisard
during the second world war, I'm reasonably sure it wasn't a
compliment :-).

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Lupa Capitolina Electronica
From:	"Paula Drennan" <dragonpink@satx.rr.com>
Date:	Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:54:49 -0500

Salve,

You are welcome. I am glad to help out.

Claudia Fabia Calpurnia
(who took French in high school, and can only remember that the teacher
always wore 6 inch spike heels to work)

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Viva Voce: Roman Poetry Recited
From:	=?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Tue, 03 Jun 2003 05:52:41 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.

Avete, Quirites.

"Viva Voce: Roman Poetry Recited":

http://dekart.f.bg.ac.yu/~vnedeljk/VV/index.html

This site features MP3s of readings by Vojin Nedeljkovic (Univ. of
Belgrade) of works by Catullus, Ovid, Horace, Virgil, Martial, and
Juvenal, as well as links relating to Latin verse pronunciation and
scansion. The site is in English and Latin.

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Lupa Capitolina Electronica
From:	=?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Tue, 03 Jun 2003 05:57:42 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus Claudiae Fabiae Calpurniae salutem dicit.

Salve, Claudia Fabia.

> (who took French in high school, and can only remember that the teacher
> always wore 6 inch spike heels to work)

Interesting memory. I'm afraid I can't even imagine Fr. Theodore (my
first French teacher) in 6-inch spike heels -- the downside, I
suppose, of a Jesuit education :-).

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Viva Voce: Roman Poetry Recited
From:	"Franciscus Apulus Caesar" <sacro_barese_impero@libero.it>
Date:	Tue, 03 Jun 2003 08:35:51 -0000

Salve Scaurus,

we know yet this website, it's very good and useful.
In the last year, serving the Curule Aedile Fabius Quintilianus, I
developed for Victoria Ludi a little Flash movie with a text by
Virgilius recitaded by Viva Voce. You can see it at
http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/victoria/virgil.htm

Vale
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Senior Curule Aedile


--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, G¥IVLIVS¥SCAVRVS <gfr@i...> wrote:
> G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.
>
> Avete, Quirites.
>
> "Viva Voce: Roman Poetry Recited":
>
> http://dekart.f.bg.ac.yu/~vnedeljk/VV/index.html
>
> This site features MP3s of readings by Vojin Nedeljkovic (Univ. of
> Belgrade) of works by Catullus, Ovid, Horace, Virgil, Martial, and
> Juvenal, as well as links relating to Latin verse pronunciation and
> scansion. The site is in English and Latin.
>
> Valete, Quirites.
>
> G. Iulius Scaurus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Viva Voce: Roman Poetry Recited
From:	=?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date:	Tue, 03 Jun 2003 11:00:36 -0000

G. Iulius Scaurus F.s Apulo Caesari salutem dicit.

Salve, F. Apule.

> we know yet this website, it's very good and useful.
> In the last year, serving the Curule Aedile Fabius Quintilianus, I
> developed for Victoria Ludi a little Flash movie with a text by
> Virgilius recitaded by Viva Voce. You can see it at
> http://italia.novaroma.org/cohorsaedilis/ludi/victoria/virgil.htm

What a delightful movie! An excellent job. Thank you.

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Roman Music
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:18:07 -0000

Salve Omnes,

I'm bringing this discussion over from the Imperialrome2 and Spanish
list. I have heard some re-created Roman music lately and I'm sad to
say it sounds awful; just semi-organized noise. I was wondering if
there are verbal records or melodies passed down over the ages.
Surely ancient tunes must have had a little melody and harmony. The
oldest ancient tune and song that exists according to the Guiness
Book Of Records is some Egyptian Nile river song that the boat men
and river workers hum to this day. I believe the Jewish folk have
some ancient tunes that still are sung with modern words. I tried to
look up old celtic songs but no luck; I believe one of the oldest
tunes in the English language left is "Summer Is a Coming In" circa
the 1100's.

If we could just find some old tunes passed down by humming from
generation to generation we could apply them to the Roman
reconstructed instruments. Any other thoughts on this?

Regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Quintus Sertorius's Grass Crown
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?Craig=20Stevenson?= <gaiussentius@yahoo.com.au>
Date:	Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:37:29 +1000 (EST)

Salve,

I have been looking for ages now, in hundreds of
different books, and I always come up frustrated. I
cannot find any mention of Sertorius winning a Grass
Crown, and yet I remember seeing in a text once that
he had won one. Can anyone point me to a text,
preferably a primary source, that makes a mention of
this?

Vale bene,

Gaius Sentius Bruttius Sura

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Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Album Gentium
From:	"Prima Libera Livia" <prima_libera@yahoo.com>
Date:	Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:08:17 -0000

Salve,
I joined Nova Roma several months ago, and I started my own Gens.
I replied, like I was told to, to the notice about the yearly
registration of Materfamilias/Gens.
Why is my Gens not listed in the Album Gentium?
To which god must I sacifice to be recognized?

Valete,
Prima Libera Livia
(slightly frustrated)

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Quintus Sertorius's Grass Crown
From:	Gnaeus Octavius Noricus <cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at>
Date:	Tue, 3 Jun 2003 16:37:15 +0200

On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:37:29 +1000 (EST), Craig Stevenson wrote:
> Salve,
>
>I have been looking for ages now, in hundreds of different books,
>and I always come up frustrated. I cannot find any mention of
>Sertorius winning a Grass Crown, and yet I remember seeing in a text
>once that he had won one. Can anyone point me to a text, preferably
>a primary source, that makes a mention of this?

Salve!

Pliny the Elder, Naturalis Historia, Book 22, paragraph 12 (the one
beginning with "scripsit et Sulla dictator") mentions "this crown"
being awarded to Sertorius.

I hope that helps!

--
Optime vale!

Gnaeus Octavius Noricus
cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at
03.06.2003 16:33:59

Subject:	[Nova-Roma] Re: Album Gentium
From:	"Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date:	Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:39:01 -0000

Salve Prima!

I suggest that you contact the at censors <censors@novaroma.org>.
They always got back to me and solved any problems really fast. Your
problem falls under their jurisdiction. Good luck, don't despair.

regards,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus



--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Prima Libera Livia"
<prima_libera@y...> wrote:
> Salve,
> I joined Nova Roma several months ago, and I started my own Gens.
> I replied, like I was told to, to the notice about the yearly
> registration of Materfamilias/Gens.
> Why is my Gens not listed in the Album Gentium?
> To which god must I sacifice to be recognized?
>
> Valete,
> Prima Libera Livia
> (slightly frustrated)

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Album Gentium
From:	=?iso-8859-1?q?M=20Arminius=20Maior?= <marminius@yahoo.com.br>
Date:	Tue, 3 Jun 2003 14:51:02 -0300 (ART)

Salve

Apparently, the update of the "Album Gentium" (like
the "current population" number in the main page),
isnt automatic, needs to be done personnaly by the
Censores (or by the Curator Araneum?). That is, it can
take a certain time until somebody correct this...

But, since your name is in the Album Civium, your gens
is officially recognized:
http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gens?gensid=5530

BTW, there are gens with zero members still listed
(Victoria, Varia three times, Polonia).

Vale
Marcus Arminius

--- Prima Libera Livia <prima_libera@yahoo.com>
escreveu: > Salve,
> I joined Nova Roma several months ago, and I started
> my own Gens.
> I replied, like I was told to, to the notice about
> the yearly
> registration of Materfamilias/Gens.
> Why is my Gens not listed in the Album Gentium?
> To which god must I sacifice to be recognized?
>
> Valete,
> Prima Libera Livia
> (slightly frustrated)
>
>
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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Lupa Capitolina Electronica
From:	qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:03:40 EDT

In a message dated 6/2/03 10:59:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, gfr@intcon.net
writes:


> I'm afraid I can't even imagine Fr. Theodore (my
> first French teacher) in 6-inch spike heels -- the downside, I
> suppose, of a Jesuit education :-).
>
>

I think Fr Wasko (my Augustan French teacher, Hades all my foreign languages
teacher)
would look good forced in heels!
How I hated that man! He forced us to learn.

Fabius


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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Lupa Capitolina Electronica
From:	Gnaeus Octavius Noricus <cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at>
Date:	Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:16:30 +0200

Quintus Fabius Maximus wrote:
>I think Fr Wasko (my Augustan French teacher, Hades all my foreign
>languages teacher)
>would look good forced in heels!

My French teacher could have used them too: He is about 1.60 meters
"tall", and he rightly earned the nickname of "poison dwarf". By the
way, in his spare time, he is a basketball referee. Which is quite
funny to watch since he hardly reaches the players' chest.

>He forced us to learn.

French teachers seem to have that in common. But I still can recite
the "subjonctive" of "appartenir" by heart...

--
Optime vale!

Gnaeus Octavius Noricus
cn.octavius.noricus@gmx.at
03.06.2003 21:08:18

Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] June Listings on History Channel
From:	lanius117@aol.com
Date:	Tue, 3 Jun 2003 17:01:47 EDT

Salve, Quinte

I get the listings automatically - my pleasure!

Vale,

Falco


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Subject:	Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Lupa Capitolina Electronica
From:	"Paula Drennan" <dragonpink@satx.rr.com>
Date:	Tue, 3 Jun 2003 18:46:24 -0500

> > I'm afraid I can't even imagine Fr. Theodore (my
> > first French teacher) in 6-inch spike heels -- the downside, I
> > suppose, of a Jesuit education :-).
> >
> >
>
> I think Fr Wasko (my Augustan French teacher, Hades all my foreign
languages
> teacher)
> would look good forced in heels!
> How I hated that man! He forced us to learn.
>
> Fabius
>

Salve,

Thank you both so very much for the frightening mental images. Now I have a
picture of my Priest from childhood, Father Eugene, in heels giving
mass....<shudders.>

Claudia Fabia Calpurnia