Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Cicero or Catilina?
From: =?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:09:50 -0000
G. Iulius Scaurus Sp. Postumio Tuberto salutem dicit.

Salve, Sp. Postumi.

> While Quintus is a good friend of mine, I have to hold up Cordus's
point on this one. It's even >backed up by the fact that Piso, very
soon after the end of Cicero's consulship, passed >legislation aimed
at bringing Cicero to trial for these executions, namely that of
Cataline. Of >course, Cicero fled to Greece and that was the end of that.

Actually Cicero was prosecuted for the executions of P. Cornelius
Lentulus Sura, G. Cornelius Cethegus, and M. Caeparius. L. Sergius
Catilina and the majority of the conspirators died in the battle of
Pistoria, facing an army under M. Petreius (the consul technically in
command, G. Antonius Hybrida, having taken to his tent with what was
probably a political illness).

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus


Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Cicero or Catilina?
From: =?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 00:30:10 -0000
G. Iulius Scaurus Sp. Postumio Tuberto salutem dicit.

Salve, Sp. Postumi.

> Actually Cicero was prosecuted for the executions of P. Cornelius
> Lentulus Sura, G. Cornelius Cethegus, and M. Caeparius. L. Sergius
> Catilina and the majority of the conspirators died in the battle of
> Pistoria, facing an army under M. Petreius (the consul technically in
> command, G. Antonius Hybrida, having taken to his tent with what was
> probably a political illness).

My apologies for a cut-and-paste error: L. Statilius and P. Gabinius
Capito were also executed with Lentulus Sula, Cethegus and Caeparius.
And, technically, the "prosecution" was a second Lex Clodia imposing
interdictio on Cicero after the first Lex Clodia imposed exile for
execution of a Roman citizen without trial, and a judgment of the
plebs that Cicero's departure from the city amounted to an admission
of guilt.

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Latin language
From: JAG <jagramercy@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 19:10:39 -0700 (PDT)
G. Iulia Caesaria Victorinlla to the Quirites, Salvete!

I am a fairly new citizen and would like to solidly learn Latin in order to more properly communicate to my fellow citizens (or at the very least to be able to write a comprehensible email here and there in Latin). I have a very good text, but would also like to get an audio course to help me absorb the proper pronunciation. (My text indicates I should pronounce the name of one of our household dieties as Venus, yet another text, indicating it is the correct, restored pronunciation, says I should address this same goddess using a pronunciation like "Wenus.") The audio courses I have located on the Web that I could purchase are all $200 (U.S.) and above. Does anyone know where I might locate a more affordable audio course to purchase? Gratias to any and all who might have some leads!

Vale!


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Instrumentum
From: =?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 07:00:28 -0000
G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.

Avete, Quirites.

Here's a link to "Instrumentum":

http://www.instrumentum.net/index1.htm

Instrumentum is the site of the Groupe de travail europˇen sur
l'artisanat et les productions manufacturˇes dans l'Antiquitˇ (The
European Working Group on Artisanship and Manufacturing in Antiquity)
and contains extensive bibliographies on Iron-Age and Graeco-Roman
economic history, metallurgy, and archaeology , particularly as it
relates to the material culture of artisanship. The site is in
French, but can also be viewed via Altavista's Babelfish machine
translation facility (with the usual caveats about machine
translation) at http://babelfish.altavista.com/translate.dyn.

Valete, Quirites.

G. Iulius Scaurus



Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Latin language
From: =?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 07:29:17 -0000
G. Iulius Scaurus G. Iuliae Caesariae Victorinllae salutem dicit.

Salve, G. Iula Caesaria.

> I am a fairly new citizen and would like to solidly learn Latin in
order to more properly >communicate to my fellow citizens (or at the
very least to be able to write a >comprehensible email here and there
in Latin). I have a very good text, but would also like >to get an
audio course to help me absorb the proper pronunciation. (My text
indicates I >should pronounce the name of one of our household dieties
as Venus, yet another text, >indicating it is the correct, restored
pronunciation, says I should address this same goddess >using a
pronunciation like "Wenus.") The audio courses I have located on the
Web that I >could purchase are all $200 (U.S.) and above. Does anyone
know where I might locate a >more affordable audio course to purchase?
Gratias to any and all who might have some >leads!

David Cramer (Univ. of Texas at Austin) has WAV files for "The
Pronunciation of Latin" at
http://www.utexas.edu/courses/cc303/sounds/

Resources for Classics provides "Read It Right! A Guide to the
Pronunciation of Classical Latin" as a downloadable file at
http://www.classicsnet.plus.com/readitright.htm

Both are free. Peter Jeffrey (Princeton Univ.) offers a "Bibliography
on the History of Latin Pronunciation" at
http://www.music.princeton.edu/~jeffery/pronunc.html , which is
probably a little advanced for a beginner, but cites just about
everything you'd like to know about the evolution of classical and
ecclesiastical Latin pronunciation. And don't worry over much about
mimicing a particular classical paradigm, since there is still a great
deal of debate among philologists about chronological and regional
variation in Latin phonology even in the classical period.

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus





Subject: [Nova-Roma] BONA VESTALIA!
From: GAIVS IVLIANVS <ivlianvs309@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 10:27:18 -0700 (PDT)
SALVETE OMNES! Today begins the Vestalia! Although
sacred to Vesta and supervised by the public Virgines
Vestales, this day is "Dies Religiosus" meaning that
no rites or prayers are recited at the domestic
Lararium! But to all I want to wish a BONA VESTALIA!
VALETE! FRATER GAIVS IVLIVS IVLIANVS, PGI

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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Return
From: jmath669642reng@webtv.net
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 14:07:08 -0400 (EDT)
Honored Citizens of Nova Roma;

I have returned from the rigors of the trip to Balimore. I shall
shortly be sending an after action report (AAR) of what occured there
from my perspective. However, My immediate purpose on this day is to
welcome the new Citizens to Nova Roma as a group, and to urge them that
now you have attained the involvement as citizens to go now to the Nova
Roma website:

www.novarom.org

and then go to the cntent listing and bring up the section for "New
Citizens." Now that you are with us, I urge to to become more involved
with us by determinng your specific interests, by reviewing the points
provided in this guide to newcomers.

If you are interested in sports or chariot -r racig you may then
consider joining a Faction (Factio) which are groups of like-minded
individuals who are joined together by any one or more of like
determiations under a colored banner. These may be Red, Blue or Green
(there may be another color as well) and thes loose organizations are
very similar to groups of people who support one ball team or sort's
figure, except that here you support the color of your banner. At the
very recent "Roman Days" I wore a green silk kerchief around my neck,
flew a grren flag in front of my tent, and sported a green pennant on my
spear, as I was pleased to joust with my stable of gladiators.
There-fore it can be aid that I am "GREEN" and belong to the Factio
Praecina. Any new member having an above interest in any sort and in
the color green is cordially invited to join our GREEN BAND!!!!!!!!!

I invite those of you with an interest in the Military to join the
Sodalitas Militarium nd those of you who might be interested in Nova
Roma Outreach to those who are not yet aware of Nova Roma to join the
Sodalitas Egressus.

To join either one, simply address a message to Beneficarius Pompeia
Strabo, the Chief Enrollment Clerk for each Sodalitas, and as k for
admission. For those who choose to follow this path, then if you will
contact me to inform me of your acceptance, then I will be most pleased
to assist you in determining what area of the Sodalitates that you might
be interested in and introduce you to this Sodalitas Officers with whom
you will associate.

In closing, Welcome to Nova Roma!!!!! The Sodalitates Militarium and
Egressus salue you and offer thier congrtulations. If you have an
interest in either areas of endeavor you are further most sincerely
invited to consider one or both of these offerings.

Respectfully;

Marcus Minucius Audens;

Senator, ProConsul
Praefectus Castorum; Nova Roma Militarium;

Praefectus Fabrum; Nova Roma Egressus, and Member of the GREEN (Factio
Praecina)!!!!!

Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!


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Subject: [Nova-Roma] Minervina Iucundia safely on her way
From: Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 14:47:44 -0400
Early this morning, I saw Minervina Iucundia Flavia off safely at Dulles
airport west of DC. (I feel sure there's at least one person, and probably
more, who wanted to know this.) She should be back home in Florida this
evening.

Roman Days were, if a bit wet, still very good. It was great to welcome
all the visitors to Mediatlantica Provincia, and I was really pleased
to see the great turnout by local citizens to welcome our visitors.

-- Marinus

Subject: [Nova-Roma] Polar Bears in the Arenas
From: "Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 20:16:48 -0000
Salvete omnes,

I read various accounts that polar bears were put in the Arenas of
Rome as far back as 58 BC . Does anyone have any idea how they were
obtained and who the middle men may have been? I can see how exotic
beasts got from Subsaharan africa, but that far North?

Thanks,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus


Subject: [Nova-Roma] Quintus Fabius Maximus returns from his adventure in the East.
From: qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 17:03:27 EDT
Salvete
I am back in CAL, however, not without some adventure.
On my return from the province a crow flew across my path on the turnpike
from left to right.
Uneasy about the omen I mumbled a quick prayer to Fortuna and continued, but
alas
I could not avoid fate.
While sitting on the runway awaiting take off the plane's captain gave the
following announcement in his soft Va drawl:
"Ladies and Gentlemen, you might have noticed we have been sitting for long
time. Well, our left cargo hatch has been showing a red light meaning the
hatch is not completely tight. Now we COULD assume it is likely a short and a
good vibration would change it to green, BUT I don't think I wanna be in an
aircraft that depressurizes at 30,000 feet and I DON'T think that you do either.
We are returning to the gate!"
To hades with that crow!
I would like to take this time to thank all the people that made my stay at
Roman Days a delight starting first with my colleagues in the Senate:
Marcus Cassius Iulianus, Decius Iunius Palladius, Lucius Equitius
Cincinnatus, Gaius Marius Merullus, Patrica Cassia, and the old warhorse Marcus Municius
Audens.
Next thanks to the provincial Praetor, Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, who was kind
enough to allow us to invade his province.
Next many thanks to Quintus, commander of the XX and Gallio Marsallas the
commander of the XXIV who were kind enough to allow us to be part of their event.
Finally, to the other Nova Romans who were there, Minervina Iucundia Flavia
who was a great help, Diana Moravia Aventina, Tribune, who is as charming in
person as she is on e-mail, Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, erudite as always, the
Wolf of Britannia and all the others too numerous to name, again thank you. I
have lots of pictures, which I will get developed, scanned and will up load to
the net as fast as possible.
To Quintus Lanius Paulinus, myself, Decius Iunius Palladius, Gaius Marius
Merullus, Minervina Iucundia Flavia and Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, drank a
toast to your safe return to us at our feast Sat. night

Valete
Q. Fabius Maximus

Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Polar Bears in the Arenas
From: =?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 21:32:27 -0000
G. Iulius Scaurus Q. Lanio Paulino salutem dicit.

Salve, Q. Lani.

>I read various accounts that polar bears were put in the Arenas of
> Rome as far back as 58 BC . Does anyone have any idea how they were
> obtained and who the middle men may have been? I can see how exotic
> beasts got from Subsaharan africa, but that far North?

The only reference to polar bears in venationes which comes readily to
mind is Titus Calpurnius Siculus' _Bucolia_ 7.65, which dates to the
reign of Nero. I doubt that anyone knows how they were obtained.
Since Roman coin hoards have been found as far north as Sweden and
northern Russia, I would hypothesize that they arrived in Rome as a
result of some enterprising trader recognising the value of such an
curiousity to a Roman audience, possibly someone involved in the amber
trade with the Baltic, but that is pure speculation.

Vale.

G. Iulius Scaurus



Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] Quintus Fabius Maximus returns from his adventure
From: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus <gawne@cesmail.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 17:42:50 -0400
qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com writes:

> Salvete
> I am back in CAL, however, not without some adventure.[...]

Hey, thanks be to all the Powers that the pilot saw that
warning light. Far better to have you a little late than
what might have occured if the plane had depressurized at
30k feet.

Thanks so much for visiting. It was a pleasure to have you and
so many other senators, magistrates, and citizens present for
a wonderful (if very wet) event.

-- Marinus

Subject: [Nova-Roma] Re: Quintus Fabius Maximus returns from his adventure in the East.
From: "Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 23:43:18 -0000
To Quintus Lanius Paulinus, myself, Decius Iunius Palladius, Gaius
Marius
Merullus, Minervina Iucundia Flavia and Tiberius Galerius Paulinus,
drank a
toast to your safe return to us at our feast Sat. night

Salvete Consul Maxime, Decius Iunius Palladius, Gaius Marius
Merullus, Minervina Iucundia Flavia and Tiberius Galerius Paulinus,

Thank you all for remembering me in spirit and the honour of a toast.
That certainly means a great deal to a citizen with Hibernian blood
in his veins. I am happy the event was a geat success and I thank God
and the Gods for your safe return home!

Valete bene,

Quintus Lanius Paulinus


Subject: [Nova-Roma] Etruscan Keyboard for Mac
From: Charlie Collins <cotta@spamcop.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 18:52:36 -0500
Salvete Omes,
I found this on the Mac Software page VersionTracker and thought
anyone(with a Mac of course) might be interested. Here is the link to
the VersionTracker page
http://versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/19874 I hope someone
will find it interesting.

Valete,

Sextus Cornelius Cotta
Propraetor, AMS Province