| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] re:Mosaics and The Roman Summer Camp |
| From: |
"Paula Drennan" <dragonpink@satx.rr.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:53:06 -0500 |
|
Salve,
Have you looked into the DIY network? they may have some instructions on how
to do mosaics. and if you go to the right places, ceramic tilesa re not htat
expensive. There is a place around here (san antonio/new braunfels area)
that are always selling ceramic tiles for less than a dollar each, all you'd
have to do is break them yourself. and IMO that's part of the fun of doig
mosaics.
Claudia Fabia Calpurnia
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] About historical co-optations |
| From: |
"rexmarciusnr" <RexMarcius@aol.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 01:56:13 -0000 |
|
Salve Colleague!
> Election reform should be our number 1 priority for the remainder
of
> this year.
I think we are all in agreement here! However, I should not leave you
(or our citizens) with the impression that your co-optation was
completely unhistorical. It was indeed the way Tribunes were chosen
in the early Republic if elections did not yield a necessary majority
for all positions.
Livy records this in 3.64: "He [the presiding magistrate for the
Comitia Plebis Tributa MMR] ordered those who had been elected to co-
opt colleagues, and recited the formula which governed the case as
follows: `If I require you to elect ten tribunes of the plebs; if on
this day you have elected less than ten, then those whom they co-opt
shall be lawful tribunes of the plebs by the same law, in like manner
as those whom you have this day made tribunes of the plebs.'"
The Lex Trebonia in 305 AUC (448 BC) however made run-off elections
(with heavy fines for non compliance) absolutely obligatory. It would
also be following history if we - after the experience of co-
optation - enacted the same kind of Plebiscitum for Nova Roma
(provided that we can find a way to make run-off elections yield
results).
Ave et Vale
Marcus Marcius Rex
Tribune of the Plebs
|
| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Past Legal Occasions |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?M=20Arminius=20Maior?= <marminius@yahoo.com.br> |
| Date: |
Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:57:15 -0300 (ART) |
|
Salve o Tuberte
According to my own researchs, L.Marconius Romanus
posted a offensive message regarding paganism in the
XMas 98:
http://www.novaroma.org/forum/mainlist/1998/1998-12-25.html#M0001
and Fannius Agelastus Dives answered threatening him.
Fannius later apologised, but Marconius persisted. In
that time, there aint a Comitia, and the Constitution
of these days allowed a Senatus Consultum to expel a
citizen.
After a lot of flamed discussions, the Senate voted
the expulsion of Marconius:
http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/99011001.html
He suceed to rejoin Nova Roma incognito, but was
identified and expelled again. Agelastus was condemned
to do some works, but soon left Nova Roma too.
Vale
Marcus Arminius
--- "Sp. Postumius Tubertus" <postumius@gmx.net>
escreveu: > Sp. Postumius Quiritibus S.P.D.
>
> I was skimming through the archives of the main
> list(s) when I ran across a few dangling posts about
> an affair with Fannius and Marconius. So, if anyone
> has a moment, could you give me a quick run-down of
> what happened?
>
> Valete,
>
> Sp. Postumius Tubertus
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Re: Photos from Roman Days |
| From: |
"Paula Drennan" <dragonpink@satx.rr.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:00:55 -0500 |
|
Salve,
Is is just me or does Q Fabius Maximus look a bit like Stephen Rea? I am
suprisd i had not seen it before.
Vale,
Claudia Fabia Calpurnia
> --- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Diana Moravia Aventina"
> <diana@p...> wrote:
> > Salvete,
> >
> > I uploaded photos of our citizens who were present at Roman Days to
> > http://www.gensmoravia.org/RomanDays.html
> >
> > Valete,
> > Diana Moravia
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
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>
>
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Julilla goes to Rome |
| From: |
"Julilla Sempronia Magna" <curatrix@villaivlilla.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:53:46 -0700 |
|
Salvete cives Provinciae et omnibus!
I'm off to Rome until 30 June, starting tomorrow afternoon. While I am away,
legates Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia and Caius Cornelius Varus are jointly in
charge.
It has been XXVII years since I was in the Eternal City and I very much look
forward to seeing it again, and yes I will take many pictures :-p
---
IULI.SEMPRON.MAGN.PR.AM.BOR.
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|||| www.villaivlilla.com/
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|||| http://ambor.novaroma.org
Discussion Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AmBor_Waves/
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Photos from Roman Days |
| From: |
"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:04:55 -0400 |
|
Salve GB Agricola
Hay wait a minute..... you were to be the "Master of the Horse" when the two Paulinus
became " Dictators for Life"
Vale
Tiberius
----- Original Message -----
From: jlasalle
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:24 PM
Subject: RE: [Nova-Roma] Photos from Roman Days
Diana gets my vote for "Dictator for life" based on the picture entitled
"six senators and a tribune", by virtue of her virtuous bellybutton.
GB Agricola
-----Original Message-----
From: Diana Moravia Aventina [mailto:diana@pandora.be]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:35 AM
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Nova-Roma] Photos from Roman Days
Salvete,
I uploaded photos of our citizens who were present at Roman Days to
http://www.gensmoravia.org/RomanDays.html
Valete,
Diana Moravia
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
|
| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] re:Mosaics and The Roman Summer Camp |
| From: |
"Stephen Gallagher" <spqr753@msn.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:25:20 -0400 |
|
Salve Claudia Fabia Calpurnia
Thanks for the suggestion !!
Vale
Tiberius
----- Original Message -----
From: Paula Drennan
To: Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Nova-Roma] re:Mosaics and The Roman Summer Camp
Salve,
Have you looked into the DIY network? they may have some instructions on how
to do mosaics. and if you go to the right places, ceramic tilesa re not htat
expensive. There is a place around here (san antonio/new braunfels area)
that are always selling ceramic tiles for less than a dollar each, all you'd
have to do is break them yourself. and IMO that's part of the fun of doig
mosaics.
Claudia Fabia Calpurnia
To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
Nova-Roma-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Latin Pronunciation |
| From: |
Charlie Collins <cotta@spamcop.net> |
| Date: |
Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:40:38 -0500 |
|
Salve,
I have a question for any Latin whiz out there. How would you
pronounce "Excubitor". Would "Ex cu bi tor" or "Ex cub i tor" be
correct?
I work as a Security Officer(Guard) and the Oxford Minidictionary
has Excubitor meaning Watchman or Sentinel. This seems to be
the closest to my job title. I want to use it as a e-mail name. Thanks
for any help.
Sextus Cornelius Cotta
Propraetor
America Medioccidentalis Superior Province
Nova Roma
AIM: Walhalla47
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Constitution Update |
| From: |
"Sp. Postumius Tubertus" <postumius@gmx.net> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:06:22 -0500 (CDT) |
|
Sp. Postumius Quiritibus S.P.D.
Salvete,
It seems I made another oversight. After being notified by Tribune Marcus
Marcius Rex, I have updated the Constitution of Nova Roma to reflect the
amendment made by the Lex Octavia de Centuriata passed last year.
--
Valete,
Sp. Postumius L.f. A.n. Tubertus
Retiarius, Scriba, Accensus, Citizen
|
| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Latin Pronunciation |
| From: |
"Sp. Postumius Tubertus" <postumius@gmx.net> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 01:13:26 -0400 |
|
Salve Sexte Corneli,
My personal opinion points to ex cu bi tor, but I don't have a reputation or references to back that up. In any case, I do have five years of Latin education, so if that counts for something, I can at least use that!
Vale,
Sp. Postumius Tubertus
Impubes Novae Romae
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Latin Pronunciation |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 05:22:41 -0000 |
|
G. Iulius Scaurus S. Cornelio Cottae salutem dicit.
Salve, S. Corneli.
> I have a question for any Latin whiz out there. How would you
> pronounce "Excubitor". Would "Ex cu bi tor" or "Ex cub i tor" be
> correct?
> I work as a Security Officer(Guard) and the Oxford Minidictionary
> has Excubitor meaning Watchman or Sentinel. This seems to be
> the closest to my job title. I want to use it as a e-mail name. Thanks
> for any help.
The correct syllabification is ex-cu-bi-tor with the accent falling on
the penultimate syllable bi since the vowel of that syllable is both
phonologically and metrically long.
Vale.
G. Iulius Scaurus
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Grand and the sanctuary of Apollo Grannus |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?B?R6VJVkxJVlOlU0NBVlJWUw==?= <gfr@intcon.net> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 05:35:44 -0000 |
|
G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.
Avete, Quirites.
Here's a link to the Conseil Général des Vosges' website on Grand and
the sanctuary of Apollo Grannus:
http://www.exagonline.com/grand/site/eng/site.htm
The site contains photos and text on the Romanno-Gallic temple-
amphitheatre complex, epigraphic evidence of the cult, the mosaic of
Grand, the rampart, and the subterranean galleries. The complex was a
very significant Romano-Gallic healing and pilgrimage site in the
first centuries CE. The site is available in English and French.
Valete, Quirites.
G. Iulius Scaurus
|
| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] About historical co-optations |
| From: |
"L. Sicinius Drusus" <lsicinius@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 02:50:18 -0700 (PDT) |
|
--- rexmarciusnr <RexMarcius@aol.com> wrote:
SNIP
>
> The Lex Trebonia in 305 AUC (448 BC) however made
> run-off elections
> (with heavy fines for non compliance) absolutely
> obligatory. It would
> also be following history if we - after the
> experience of co-
> optation - enacted the same kind of Plebiscitum for
> Nova Roma
> (provided that we can find a way to make run-off
> elections yield
> results).
>
Lowering the threshold for election to 40% of the
votes would help eliminate the need for runoffs.
Awarding the votes of tribes that cast no ballots by
lot would also reduce the chances of a runoff.
If there is a runoff the number of canidates needs to
be limited to the number of open postions plus one, ie
one open postion only the top two canidates would be
eligible for the run off.
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] About historical co-optations |
| From: |
"=?iso-8859-1?q?A.=20Apollonius=20Cordus?=" <cordus@strategikon.org> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:46:23 +0100 (BST) |
|
A. Apollonius Cordus to Senator L. Sinicius Drusus and
all citizens and peregrines, greetings.
> Lowering the threshold for election to 40% of the
> votes would help eliminate the need for runoffs.
> Awarding the votes of tribes that cast no ballots by
> lot would also reduce the chances of a runoff.
>
> If there is a runoff the number of canidates needs
to
> be limited to the number of open postions plus one,
> ie one open postion only the top two canidates would
> be eligible for the run off.
I'm glad to see there are lots of people out there
still thinking about electoral reform!
May I refer the honourable Senator to the proposal
published by the Senior Consul a handful of messages
ago? It would eliminate run-offs altogether (except in
rare circumstances) and would also allow us to retain
50% as the strict minimum for a candidate to be
elected.
It would be no difficulty for the Tribunes to adapt
the proposal for use in the Plebeian Assembly.
Yours reformingly,
Cordus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: About historical co-optations |
| From: |
"L. Didius Geminus Sceptius" <sceptia@yahoo.es> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:44:09 -0000 |
|
Salvete omnes
As Tribunus Plebis, I strongly support and encourage that reform and
also want to make you all remember that what our Senior Consul
proposed can be the best solution for the run-off elections.
Now we are 5 Tribunus, and hope to fullfill the voters will we all
together. :-)
vale bene,
L·DIDIVS·GEMINVS·SCEPTIVS
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "A. Apollonius Cordus" <cordus@s...>
wrote:
> A. Apollonius Cordus to Senator L. Sinicius Drusus and
> all citizens and peregrines, greetings.
>
> > Lowering the threshold for election to 40% of the
> > votes would help eliminate the need for runoffs.
> > Awarding the votes of tribes that cast no ballots by
> > lot would also reduce the chances of a runoff.
> >
> > If there is a runoff the number of canidates needs
> to
> > be limited to the number of open postions plus one,
> > ie one open postion only the top two canidates would
> > be eligible for the run off.
>
> I'm glad to see there are lots of people out there
> still thinking about electoral reform!
>
> May I refer the honourable Senator to the proposal
> published by the Senior Consul a handful of messages
> ago? It would eliminate run-offs altogether (except in
> rare circumstances) and would also allow us to retain
> 50% as the strict minimum for a candidate to be
> elected.
>
> It would be no difficulty for the Tribunes to adapt
> the proposal for use in the Plebeian Assembly.
>
> Yours reformingly,
>
> Cordus
>
> =====
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>
>
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Provincial Roman Archaeology |
| From: |
=?iso-8859-1?q?Dennis=20Temmerman?= <consulromanus@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:59:21 +0100 (BST) |
|
Tib. Apollonius Cicatrix Iulio Scauro et omnibus SPD
And to complete this information (I study Classical
history at this wonderful university!):
DEPARTMENT OF ARCHAEOLOGY AND ANCIENT HISTORY OF
EUROPE
http://www.flwi.ugent.be/AAHE/indexen.htm
Research Unit Prehistory and Protohistory
http://www.flwi.ugent.be/AAHE/ruppen.htm
Research Unit Provincial-Roman Archaeology
http://www.flwi.ugent.be/AAHE/rugra.html
Research Unit Classical Archaeology and History of Art
http://www.flwi.ugent.be/AAHE/ruclarch.html
Research Unit Medieval and Post-Medieval Archaeology
http://www.flwi.ugent.be/AAHE/rumediarch.htm
Research Unit Classical History
http://www.flwi.ugent.be/AAHE/ruclhist.html
And the wonderful Internet Ancient History Resource
Guide by the also wonderful dr. K. Verboven (who was
so kind to give me an A and two B's for the essays I
had to write for his courses!):
http://www.flwi.ugent.be/IAHRG/
Note that the website addresses have changed. This is
due to a name change of our university. The main
website is now http://www.ugent.be, and our faculty's
website is http://www.flwi.ugent.be
> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:59:17 -0000
> From: G¥IVLIVS¥SCAVRVS <gfr@intcon.net>
> Subject: Provincial Roman Archaeology
>
> G. Iulius Scaurus S.P.D.
>
> Avete, Quirites.
>
> Here's a link to the Univ. of Ghent's Research Unit
> on
> Provincial-Roman Archaeology:
>
> http://allserv.rug.ac.be/~hthoen/rugra.html
>
> The site describes the unit's extensive projects
> investigating
> Romano-Gallic sites in Belgium and northern France
> and provides a
> bibliography of publications arising from the
> excavations, including
> Gallo-Roman settlement in western Flanders, the
> Meetjesland Survey
> project, Roman roads and land organisation in
> Northwestern Gaul, Roman
> Jewellery in Belgium, and Roman Amphorae in
> Northwestern Gaul.
>
> Valete, Quirites.
>
> G. Iulius Scaurus
OPTAMO VOBIS BENE VALERE
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Archeological Digs |
| From: |
"Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa" <vipsaniusagrippa@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:10:56 -0600 |
|
Salvete
I was just wondering if anyone had any information about archeological digs
during the summer. I was hoping to go on a dig in 2005 in either Europe or
the Middle East. I have no idea about what the expenses would be or how to
apply. Has anyone had any experience with this sort of thing?
Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Latin Pronunciation |
| From: |
jan gram <janabc10@yahoo.com> |
| Date: |
Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:38:41 -0700 (PDT) |
|
the word you're looking for is custos
Charlie Collins <cotta@spamcop.net> wrote:Salve,
I have a question for any Latin whiz out there. How would you
pronounce "Excubitor". Would "Ex cu bi tor" or "Ex cub i tor" be
correct?
I work as a Security Officer(Guard) and the Oxford Minidictionary
has Excubitor meaning Watchman or Sentinel. This seems to be
the closest to my job title. I want to use it as a e-mail name. Thanks
for any help.
Sextus Cornelius Cotta
Propraetor
America Medioccidentalis Superior Province
Nova Roma
AIM: Walhalla47
|
| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Past Legal Occasions |
| From: |
"Sp. Postumius Tubertus" <postumius@gmx.net> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:27:33 -0400 |
|
Salve Marce Armini,
> According to my own researchs, L.Marconius Romanus
> posted a offensive message regarding paganism in the
> XMas 98:
>
> http://www.novaroma.org/forum/mainlist/1998/1998-12-25.html#M0001
>
> and Fannius Agelastus Dives answered threatening him.
> Fannius later apologised, but Marconius persisted. In
> that time, there aint a Comitia, and the Constitution
> of these days allowed a Senatus Consultum to expel a
> citizen.
>
> After a lot of flamed discussions, the Senate voted
> the expulsion of Marconius:
>
> http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/99011001.html
>
> He suceed to rejoin Nova Roma incognito, but was
> identified and expelled again. Agelastus was condemned
> to do some works, but soon left Nova Roma too.
I suppose this means neither could handle the punishments? I hope expulsion isn't something we have to use again.
In any case, thank you for the information.
Vale,
Sp. Postumius Tubertus
Impubes Novae Romae
|
| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Past Legal Occasions |
| From: |
qfabiusmaxmi@aol.com |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:56:01 EDT |
|
In a message dated 6/18/03 9:38:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
postumius@gmx.net writes:
> I suppose this means neither could handle the punishments? I hope expulsion
> isn't something we have to use again.
>
Legally we have a problem with punishment here in NR. Infact I had a long
talk with the Foreign Praetor about this very subject and Roman Days.
Banishment, temporary or permanent is the easiest punishment to carry out, because we
control it. All other punitive measures we cannot enforce.
When I was City Praetor I wrote up a complete law code, which was unusable,
since
it depended on the voluntary cooperation of the convicted. To my surprise,
the convicted
don't want to go along. Gee, who'd thought?
Seriously, I'd like to retry the Marconius/Fannius case as an example to test
our court system.. I was all ready to do that, research was complete, a jury
impaneled, and Iudex appointed, when 9/11 disrupted my (and many others)
lives. I have been trying to get the trial restarted, this year, but have
currently zero interest.
I lived through the situation, we were a fledging micronation at the time, it
was Christmas, and we had a person disrupting the main list with Christian
propaganda. He was guilty of Blasphemy, according to the magistrates and many
citizens. However, before the magistrates could react a Pagan threatened him
with crucifixion if he didn't shut up.
At that point, since Roman Law protected the Christian since he was a
citizen, the pagan was charged with issuing death threats. The Senate acting as the
Quaeso (which historically it did act as in the early years of Rome), for both
crimes banished the Christian for life because of Blasphemy, and gave the
pagan (a minor) probation. I believe that his Paterfamilias was his probation
keeper.
Was it the correct verdict? That was one of the reasons I wanted to retry
the case.
To see what would happen a second time around.
Q Fabius Maximus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Blessed Summanus and Solstice |
| From: |
"Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius" <mballetta@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:41:35 -0000 |
|
Salvate Senetus et Populus
This weekend (the 20th and 21'st) marks one of 8 main Pagan Holiday's
and one of the many Roman Festivals.
I wish you all a very happy and blessed time.
Et Benedictus
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Fr. Apulus Caesar |
| From: |
"Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius" <mballetta@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:14:04 -0000 |
|
Tanti Grazie Fr. Apulus Caesar,
Si, l'ho capito, posso leggere piu meglio di parlare hahaha.
Visitero Roma, Venezia, la costa Amalfi, Firenze e Baveno a Largo
Maggiore per 15 giorni.
Ti mandero il mio itinerario quando e pronto.
Sarebbe un piacere di conoscerti.
Salve Belisarius,
se hai difficoltà a comprendere il mio italiano, chiedimi di fare la
traduzione in inglese.
Il prossimo evento di Nova Roma in Italia è in Agosto a Bologna. Dopo
ci sarà il Mercato della Centuriazione a Villadose (RV) (vicino
Venezia) dove alcuni nova romani si esibiscono.
A ottobre non abbiamo ancora previsto nulla e non penso ci sia
qualche evento ufficiale.
In ogni caso avvisami quando vieni in Italia, sarà un piacere per noi
darti il benvenuto e incontrarci. In che città andrai?
Vale
Fr. Apulus Caesar
Propraetor Provinciae Italiae
Salve Honorato,
Mi chiamo Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius da Nova Roma.
Non parlo Italiano proprio bene e il mio Latino non e piu meglio.
Visitero' Italia in Ottobre, ci sara qualche avvenimenti Nova Roma
quel meze?
Mille grazie
|
| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Latin Pronunciation |
| From: |
"Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius" <mballetta@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:22:16 -0000 |
|
Salve,
I don't have the answer for you but regarding your position as
security guard.
I currently work for Summit Security Services as a Software Systems
Administrator formerly of a software development company for Security
Guard Programs in the New York area. I've worked with Security
companies all over the United States and Puerto Rico.
It is more than possible we have mutual aquantances and may be in a
position to assist eachother at some point in time.
Vale and well met.
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, G¥IVLIVS¥SCAVRVS <gfr@i...> wrote:
> G. Iulius Scaurus S. Cornelio Cottae salutem dicit.
>
> Salve, S. Corneli.
>
> > I have a question for any Latin whiz out there. How would you
> > pronounce "Excubitor". Would "Ex cu bi tor" or "Ex cub i tor" be
> > correct?
> > I work as a Security Officer(Guard) and the Oxford
Minidictionary
> > has Excubitor meaning Watchman or Sentinel. This seems to be
> > the closest to my job title. I want to use it as a e-mail name.
Thanks
> > for any help.
>
> The correct syllabification is ex-cu-bi-tor with the accent falling
on
> the penultimate syllable bi since the vowel of that syllable is both
> phonologically and metrically long.
>
> Vale.
>
> G. Iulius Scaurus
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Past Legal Occasions |
| From: |
"Sp. Postumius Tubertus" <postumius@gmx.net> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:25:20 -0400 |
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Salve Quinte Fabi,
I would have loved to be part of your mock-trial.... If you can ever spark up enough interested people, I'd gladly participate.
As well, if you still have a copy of that legal code.... Even if it is un-usable, I would still like to see it, if you don't mind. I have a strong affinity for reading legal documents.
And, while I'm thinking about it, whatever happened to using the titles "Urbanus" and "Peregrinus"? I've only seen in the Annales the use of Urbanus, so I'm confused as to the use of a foreign Praetor, but why did we discontinue using the title of "Urbanus"?
Vale,
Sp. Postumius Tubertus
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Caeso Fabius Quintilianus |
| From: |
"Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius" <mballetta@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:29:39 -0000 |
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My thanks again.
I have successfuly contacted Fancisco Apulus Caesar and while there
are no Nova Roma events scheduled, I will be making contact with him
upon my arrival in Italy.
Vale
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Past Legal Occasions |
| From: |
MarcusAudens@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:42:55 -0400 (EDT) |
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As a matter of fact Fannius was fined $5.00 and assigned to me for six
months to oversee a task which would forward Nova Roma. I contacted
Fanniius and told him of the fine and suggested an area of effort for
which he had earlier expressed an interest. I asked him to return to me
a planof action for this effort together with a rough timetable of
completion. The gentleman niether paid the fine, nor completed the
project to which he had agreed.
It is my belief that he was a young student about the age between 15 and
17.
As Senator Fabius Has indicated, I niether expected him to pay the fine
nor complete the project, but he was certainly provided the chance to do
so.
I see no real purpose in repeating this trial, since in my view the
answer is plainly obvious. As the good Senator says, we have no control
over such punishments as indicated above. If punishments must be
inflicted for those who violate our laws, (and there have been a few
examples) then in my view the punishments should be something which can
be controlled by the elected Magistrates. We tried the method outlined
above, and it did not work even though the young man was given every
opportunity to do so. It didn't work. Solution, don't do that again!!!
Respectfully;
Marcus Minucius Audens
A wet sheet and a flowing sea, and a wind follows fast, and fills the
white and rustling sail, and bends the gallant mast; and bends the
gallant mast my boys while like the eagle free, our good ship starts and
flies and leaves old England on our lee------Fair Winds and following
Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Archeological Digs |
| From: |
MarcusAudens@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:52:34 -0400 (EDT) |
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There is an organization which sponsors tour digs all over the world.
Two that I remember from last year, and which I believe I shared with
the Main List, was a newly discovered Fort in England , and one at th
mouth of the Danube River,both of which were being excavated and
volunteers were being sought.
I got the information from my wife, who is a travel manager. She is
looking for the information,and when she finds it, I will post it here.
Probably, a local travel agent will be able to help as well.
Marcus Minucius Audens
A wet sheet and a flowing sea, and a wind follows fast, and fills the
white and rustling sail, and bends the gallant mast; and bends the
gallant mast my boys while like the eagle free, our good ship starts and
flies and leaves old England on our lee------Fair Winds and following
Seas!!!
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Latin Pronunciation |
| From: |
PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:05:29 -0400 |
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ex-kube-bee-tor (silent e on kube; mostly "c" is a "k" sound in Latin)
F Gal Aure Sec
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Latin Pronunciation |
| From: |
PADRUIGTHEUNCLE@aol.com |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:09:05 -0400 |
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Pardon, that should be: ex-kube-BEE-tor (emphasis on "bi"; silent e on "kube" rhymes with cube; "c" with hard "k" sound)
F Gal Aur Sec
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Archaelogical Digs |
| From: |
jmath669642reng@webtv.net |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:32:31 -0400 (EDT) |
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For the gentleman interested in the subject item, Perhaps the below info
will be of some assistance:
EARTHWATCH Expedition
U.S. Office -- Dana Abbro
1-800-776-0188
Europe Office --
44(0)1865-318831
Order a 2003 Expedition Guide --
http://www.earthwatch.org/location/guide.html
Enjoy!!!!
Marcus Minucius Audens
Fair Winds and Following Seas!!!
http://community.webtv.net/jmath669642reng/NovaRomaMilitary
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Factio Veneta - Reminder |
| From: |
"Daniel O. Villanueva" <danielovi@ciudad.com.ar> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:31:07 -0300 |
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Salvete omnes.
I remind you that on June 20th, the Internal Ludi for the Veneta begins, please send an email to Salix Galaicus : piteas@telefonica.net , with the following information : 1) your roman name, 2) the name of your chariot, 3) the driver's name and 4) your tactics (as usual)
Bene valete
L. Pompeius Octavianus
Dominus factionis Veneta
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| Subject: |
Re: [Nova-Roma] Caeso Fabius Quintilianus |
| From: |
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus <christer.edling@telia.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:00:18 +0200 |
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Salve Honorable Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius!
Illustrus Franciscus Apulus Caesar is a very kind and nice person, as
well as a very competent and skillful administrator and Governor. I
am sure that he will do his outmost to assist You during your trip.
Please observe that he lives in the southern part of Provincia Italia
and that that may hinder him in some way to meet You personally. As I
don't read italian I haven't understood if he has made this clear, so
I took the liberty to explain this to You. I am sure though that he
will see to it that You will be given assitans during your visit in
the mother province. ;-)
>My thanks again.
>I have successfuly contacted Fancisco Apulus Caesar and while there
>are no Nova Roma events scheduled, I will be making contact with him
>upon my arrival in Italy.
>Vale
--
Vale
Caeso Fabius Quintilianus
Senior Consul et Senator
Propraetor Thules
Sodalitas Egressus Beneficarius et Praefectus Provincia Thules
Civis Romanus sum
************************************************
Cohors Consulis CFQ
http://www.insulaumbra.com/cohors_consulis_cfq/
************************************************
Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
"I'll either find a way or make one"
************************************************
Dignitas, Iustitia, Fidelitas et Pietas
Dignity, Justice, Loyalty and Dutifulness
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Latin Pronunciation |
| From: |
Charlie Collins <cotta@spamcop.net> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:10:55 -0500 |
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Salvete Omnes,
Thanks for all the responses. I am going to use both Custos(even
though it sounds like I'm a Janitor and not a Guard) and Excubitor
which is my first choice.
Sextus Cornelius Cotta
AIM: Walhalla47
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Past Legal Occasions |
| From: |
"Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius" <mballetta@hotmail.com> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:44:43 -0000 |
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This was obviously before my time here at Nova Roma but as a
practicing Pagan, I wasn't pleased with his comments.
I manage a private Web community for Pagans and have a knack for
debunking many Xian claims about our religion (which came first and
before their priests decided to kill and torture our kind if we
couldn't be converted).
I have facts to diprove may of their beliefs in so called miracles
not to mention that there is documentation to show the Old Roman
Empire under Emperor Constantine changed their practices to coincide
with our holidys am rituals. Anyone who worships Mithras can attest
to this.
I'd be happy tp lend any assistance to those who require it and I
hope this wasn't seen as as rant or ramble on the subject.
If so, my apologies.
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, M Arminius Maior <marminius@y...>
wrote:
> Salve o Tuberte
>
> According to my own researchs, L.Marconius Romanus
> posted a offensive message regarding paganism in the
> XMas 98:
>
> http://www.novaroma.org/forum/mainlist/1998/1998-12-25.html#M0001
>
> and Fannius Agelastus Dives answered threatening him.
> Fannius later apologised, but Marconius persisted. In
> that time, there aint a Comitia, and the Constitution
> of these days allowed a Senatus Consultum to expel a
> citizen.
>
> After a lot of flamed discussions, the Senate voted
> the expulsion of Marconius:
>
> http://www.novaroma.org/tabularium/senate/99011001.html
>
> He suceed to rejoin Nova Roma incognito, but was
> identified and expelled again. Agelastus was condemned
> to do some works, but soon left Nova Roma too.
>
> Vale
> Marcus Arminius
>
> --- "Sp. Postumius Tubertus" <postumius@g...>
> escreveu: > Sp. Postumius Quiritibus S.P.D.
> >
> > I was skimming through the archives of the main
> > list(s) when I ran across a few dangling posts about
> > an affair with Fannius and Marconius. So, if anyone
> > has a moment, could you give me a quick run-down of
> > what happened?
> >
> > Valete,
> >
> > Sp. Postumius Tubertus
>
>
>
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| Subject: |
[Nova-Roma] Re: Past Legal Occasions |
| From: |
"Quintus Lanius Paulinus (Michael Kelly)" <mjk@datanet.ab.ca> |
| Date: |
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:32:53 -0000 |
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Salve Marce,
I sure agree that the Christian Church, particularily the Roman
Catholic kept many of the pagan religious ceremonies in its adjenda,
wherever it went all over the world; a rather smart move in my
opinion because it made the converts forcebly or not forcebly
integrated, more at home. I read how the venerations of Mary are
often analagous to Isis, the vestments and incense along with the
patron saint's feast days certainly reflect pagan Rome and my Mexican
wife and I love doing the beautiful Day of the Dead ceremony that
integrates the Aztec relgious festivities with Catholicism. In Brazil
and Haiti, the African pagan festivities are also integrated. I'll
have to read some more on Mithra to see the connection but I'll
certainly take your word for it as I write this posting.
In conclusion, I wish to say that I generally find the Roman Catholic
services, especially with its integrated pagan formalities a very
rich thing to watch thanks to its pagan ceremonial integration.
As far as real miracles go, I have seen none preformed in any relgion
in my life; ones from changing water into wine on the spot to a stick
changing into a snake, a man into a bull or lead into gold. No matter
what the religion, most are based on faith and can never be performed
on the drop of a hat. In that respect I am a doubting Thomas until
one kicks me in the face.
Anyway, I feel that all Nova Romans no matter what faith, should
educate themselves about the Religio Romano. Would you please give us
a little run down on Mithraism and its ceremonies when you have a
chance. I realize it came from Persia but was very popular with the
Roman soldiers abroad who brought it back home.
Yours respectfully,
Quintus Lanius Paulinus
--- In Nova-Roma@yahoogroups.com, "Marcus Ambrosius Belisarius"
<mballetta@h...> wrote:
> This was obviously before my time here at Nova Roma but as a
> practicing Pagan, I wasn't pleased with his comments.
> I manage a private Web community for Pagans and have a knack for
> debunking many Xian claims about our religion (which came first and
> before their priests decided to kill and torture our kind if we
> couldn't be converted).
> I have facts to diprove may of their beliefs in so called miracles
> not to mention that there is documentation to show the Old Roman
> Empire under Emperor Constantine changed their practices to
coincide
> with our holidys am rituals. Anyone who worships Mithras can
attest
> to this.
> I'd be happy tp lend any assistance to those who require it and I
> hope this wasn't seen as as rant or ramble on the subject.
> If so, my apologies.
>
>
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