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Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus at 12:59, 27 September 2008

2008-09-27T12:59:17Z

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−	[[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#Is_it_possible_to_give_a_final_answer_to_the_meaning_of_the_abbreviation_SPQR.3F\|Professor Bersani explains]]: "The expansion of ['''~~SPQR~~'''~~] is "Senatus Populusque Romanus~~", a phrase which may be translated as "the Roman Estate" that is, the whole of the civic body and its institutional system."	+	[[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#Is_it_possible_to_give_a_final_answer_to_the_meaning_of_the_abbreviation_SPQR.3F\|Professor Bersani explains]]: "The expansion of this abbreviation [ [[SPQR]] ] is "'''S'''enatus '''P'''opulus'''q'''ue '''R'''omanus", a phrase which may be translated as "the Roman Estate" that is, the whole of the civic body and its institutional system. This formula is significant because first of all it proclaims the whole of the civic body, represented by the [[Senate]] and the people (i.e. the sovereignty of the republic is one but is two-headed, and in it the Senate and the people are indivisible). However on the other hand this formula also discloses the prominence of the Senate over the people, and then underlines the limitations which the latter suffered."

	[[Aulus Apollonius Cordus (Nova Roma)\|A. Apollonius Cordus]] has noted: "...the		[[Aulus Apollonius Cordus (Nova Roma)\|A. Apollonius Cordus]] has noted: "...the

Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus: edit style

2008-09-27T12:54:44Z

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−	[[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#Is_it_possible_to_give_a_final_answer_to_the_meaning_of_the_abbreviation_SPQR.3F\|Professor Bersani explains]] ~~states~~: "The expansion of ['''SPQR'''] is "Senatus Populusque Romanus", a phrase which may be translated as "the Roman Estate" that is, the whole of the civic body and its institutional system."	+	[[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#Is_it_possible_to_give_a_final_answer_to_the_meaning_of_the_abbreviation_SPQR.3F\|Professor Bersani explains]]: "The expansion of ['''SPQR'''] is "Senatus Populusque Romanus", a phrase which may be translated as "the Roman Estate" that is, the whole of the civic body and its institutional system."

−	~~In support of this,~~ [[Aulus Apollonius Cordus (Nova Roma)\|~~Aulus~~ Apollonius Cordus]] has noted "...the	+	[[Aulus Apollonius Cordus (Nova Roma)\|A. Apollonius Cordus]] has noted: "...the
−	inscription on the temple of Saturn: ''Senatus populusque Romanus incendio consumptum restituit''. Here we have a singular verb applied to what one would	+	inscription on the temple of Saturn: ''Senatus populusque Romanus incendio consumptum restituit''. Here we have a singular verb applied to what one would normally regard as a plural subject: the senate '''and''' the people. I wonder whether perhaps the ''senatus populusque'' is here regarded as a single entity, effectively the whole of the Roman state." [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/44764]
−	normally regard as a plural subject: the senate '''and''' the people. I wonder	+
−	whether perhaps the ''senatus populusque'' is here regarded as a single entity,	+
−	effectively the whole of the Roman state." [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/44764]	+

		+	[[Publius Memmius Albucius (Nova Roma)\|P. Memmius Albucius]] adds:

−	~~[[Publius Memmius Albucius (Nova Roma)\|Publius Memmius Albucius]], Leg. Lugd. Galliae adds:~~	+	1. In most of the inscriptions that I know, containing "''senatus populusque Romanus''", this expression is followed by a '''singular'''
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−	1. In most of the inscriptions that I know, containing "''senatus populusque ~~romanus~~''", this expression is followed by a '''singular'''	+

	:ex. 1 : Senatus / populusque / Romanus / clivom / Martis / pecunia publica / in planitiam / redigendum / curavit ([[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#What_is_the_CIL_and_what_is_its_composition.3F_What_other_methods_do_epigraphists_have_at_their_disposal.3F\|CIL]] 06, 01270 - Rome)		:ex. 1 : Senatus / populusque / Romanus / clivom / Martis / pecunia publica / in planitiam / redigendum / curavit ([[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#What_is_the_CIL_and_what_is_its_composition.3F_What_other_methods_do_epigraphists_have_at_their_disposal.3F\|CIL]] 06, 01270 - Rome)
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	:ex. Senatus p(opulus)q(ue) Lepcitanor(um) / C(aio) Macri f(ilio) C(ai) Annonis / n(epoti) Phelyssam ob colum/nas et superficie(m) et fo/rum stratum honoris / caussa [sic] decreverunt / Balitho [M]acri f(ilius) [C]o[m]/[modus](IRT 00615, Leptis magna, Trip., Libya).		:ex. Senatus p(opulus)q(ue) Lepcitanor(um) / C(aio) Macri f(ilio) C(ai) Annonis / n(epoti) Phelyssam ob colum/nas et superficie(m) et fo/rum stratum honoris / caussa [sic] decreverunt / Balitho [M]acri f(ilius) [C]o[m]/[modus](IRT 00615, Leptis magna, Trip., Libya).

−	3. It is interesting to remember that classical authors did not always use "~~spqr~~" in a joined/pasted expression. For instance, [[Cicero]] has several times used a balanced formula like : "senatus decrevit populusque jussit", well making the difference between the two powers. [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/44799]	+	3. It is interesting to remember that classical authors did not always use "SPQR" in a joined/pasted expression. For instance, [[Cicero]] has several times used a balanced formula like : "senatus decrevit populusque jussit", well making the difference between the two powers. [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/44799]

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M. Lucretius Agricola: +langbar

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	[[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#Is_it_possible_to_give_a_final_answer_to_the_meaning_of_the_abbreviation_SPQR.3F\|Professor Bersani explains]] states: "The expansion of ['''SPQR'''] is "Senatus Populusque Romanus", a phrase which may be translated as "the Roman Estate" that is, the whole of the civic body and its institutional system."		[[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#Is_it_possible_to_give_a_final_answer_to_the_meaning_of_the_abbreviation_SPQR.3F\|Professor Bersani explains]] states: "The expansion of ['''SPQR'''] is "Senatus Populusque Romanus", a phrase which may be translated as "the Roman Estate" that is, the whole of the civic body and its institutional system."

Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus at 16:25, 29 May 2008

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	3. It is interesting to remember that classical authors did not always use "spqr" in a joined/pasted expression. For instance, [[Cicero]] has several times used a balanced formula like : "senatus decrevit populusque jussit", well making the difference between the two powers. [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/44799]		3. It is interesting to remember that classical authors did not always use "spqr" in a joined/pasted expression. For instance, [[Cicero]] has several times used a balanced formula like : "senatus decrevit populusque jussit", well making the difference between the two powers. [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/44799]
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		+	[[Category:Law and politics]]

M. Lucretius Agricola: link to CIL in Bersani's interview

2006-07-23T03:10:01Z

link to CIL in Bersani's interview

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	1. In most of the inscriptions that I know, containing "''senatus populusque romanus''", this expression is followed by a '''singular'''		1. In most of the inscriptions that I know, containing "''senatus populusque romanus''", this expression is followed by a '''singular'''

−	:ex. 1 : Senatus / populusque / Romanus / clivom / Martis / pecunia publica / in planitiam / redigendum / curavit (CIL 06, 01270 - Rome)	+	:ex. 1 : Senatus / populusque / Romanus / clivom / Martis / pecunia publica / in planitiam / redigendum / curavit ([[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#What_is_the_CIL_and_what_is_its_composition.3F_What_other_methods_do_epigraphists_have_at_their_disposal.3F\|CIL]] 06, 01270 - Rome)

−	:ex. 2 : Se[nat]us po[pu]lusq[ue Romanus] / c[olonia]e [O]sti[ensi]u[m mu]ro[s et port]as dedi[t] / M(arcus) [Tulliu]s C[icer]o c[o(n)s(ul) fecit carav]itqu[e] / P(ublius) Cl[odius] Pul[cher tr(ibunus) pl (ebis) co]nsumm[avit pro]b[avit] (..) (CIL 14, 04707, Ostia, Ita)	+	:ex. 2 : Se[nat]us po[pu]lusq[ue Romanus] / c[olonia]e [O]sti[ensi]u[m mu]ro[s et port]as dedi[t] / M(arcus) [Tulliu]s C[icer]o c[o(n)s(ul) fecit carav]itqu[e] / P(ublius) Cl[odius] Pul[cher tr(ibunus) pl (ebis) co]nsumm[avit pro]b[avit] (..) ([[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#What_is_the_CIL_and_what_is_its_composition.3F_What_other_methods_do_epigraphists_have_at_their_disposal.3F\|CIL]] 14, 04707, Ostia, Ita)

−	:ex. 3 : Genio deivi Iuli / parentis patriae / quem senatus / populusque / Romanus in / deorum numerum / rettulit (CIL 09, 02628 - Isernia, Samnium, Ita)	+	:ex. 3 : Genio deivi Iuli / parentis patriae / quem senatus / populusque / Romanus in / deorum numerum / rettulit ([[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#What_is_the_CIL_and_what_is_its_composition.3F_What_other_methods_do_epigraphists_have_at_their_disposal.3F\|CIL]] 09, 02628 - Isernia, Samnium, Ita)

	:ex. 4 : Publ]io Me[mmio Regula et] L(ucio) Fu[l]cinio Trione c[o(n)s (ulibus)] senatus populusque Iptuccitanorum [hospitium] fecit (...) (IRP Cadiz 00503, Baetica, Prado del Rey, Esp.)		:ex. 4 : Publ]io Me[mmio Regula et] L(ucio) Fu[l]cinio Trione c[o(n)s (ulibus)] senatus populusque Iptuccitanorum [hospitium] fecit (...) (IRP Cadiz 00503, Baetica, Prado del Rey, Esp.)

M. Lucretius Agricola: citations by Publius Memmius Albucius

2006-07-23T02:12:54Z

citations by Publius Memmius Albucius

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	whether perhaps the ''senatus populusque'' is here regarded as a single entity,		whether perhaps the ''senatus populusque'' is here regarded as a single entity,
	effectively the whole of the Roman state." [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/44764]		effectively the whole of the Roman state." [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/44764]
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		+	[[Publius Memmius Albucius (Nova Roma)\|Publius Memmius Albucius]], Leg. Lugd. Galliae adds:
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		+	1. In most of the inscriptions that I know, containing "''senatus populusque romanus''", this expression is followed by a '''singular'''
		+
		+	:ex. 1 : Senatus / populusque / Romanus / clivom / Martis / pecunia publica / in planitiam / redigendum / curavit (CIL 06, 01270 - Rome)
		+
		+	:ex. 2 : Se[nat]us po[pu]lusq[ue Romanus] / c[olonia]e [O]sti[ensi]u[m mu]ro[s et port]as dedi[t] / M(arcus) [Tulliu]s C[icer]o c[o(n)s(ul) fecit carav]itqu[e] / P(ublius) Cl[odius] Pul[cher tr(ibunus) pl (ebis) co]nsumm[avit pro]b[avit] (..) (CIL 14, 04707, Ostia, Ita)
		+
		+	:ex. 3 : Genio deivi Iuli / parentis patriae / quem senatus / populusque / Romanus in / deorum numerum / rettulit (CIL 09, 02628 - Isernia, Samnium, Ita)
		+
		+	:ex. 4 : Publ]io Me[mmio Regula et] L(ucio) Fu[l]cinio Trione c[o(n)s (ulibus)] senatus populusque Iptuccitanorum [hospitium] fecit (...) (IRP Cadiz 00503, Baetica, Prado del Rey, Esp.)
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		+	2. When the plural is used, it seems to be in later inscriptions, during the late Empire, often written in african provinces and not in a very "classic" language :
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		+	:ex. Senatus p(opulus)q(ue) Lepcitanor(um) / C(aio) Macri f(ilio) C(ai) Annonis / n(epoti) Phelyssam ob colum/nas et superficie(m) et fo/rum stratum honoris / caussa [sic] decreverunt / Balitho [M]acri f(ilius) [C]o[m]/[modus](IRT 00615, Leptis magna, Trip., Libya).
		+
		+	3. It is interesting to remember that classical authors did not always use "spqr" in a joined/pasted expression. For instance, [[Cicero]] has several times used a balanced formula like : "senatus decrevit populusque jussit", well making the difference between the two powers. [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/44799]

M. Lucretius Agricola: new

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[[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#Is_it_possible_to_give_a_final_answer_to_the_meaning_of_the_abbreviation_SPQR.3F|Professor Bersani explains]] states: "The expansion of ['''SPQR'''] is "Senatus Populusque Romanus", a phrase which may be translated as "the Roman Estate" that is, the whole of the civic body and its institutional system."

In support of this, [[Aulus Apollonius Cordus (Nova Roma)|Aulus Apollonius Cordus]] has noted "...the
inscription on the temple of Saturn: ''Senatus populusque Romanus incendio consumptum restituit''. Here we have a singular verb applied to what one would
normally regard as a plural subject: the senate '''and''' the people. I wonder
whether perhaps the ''senatus populusque'' is here regarded as a single entity,
effectively the whole of the Roman state." [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/message/44764]

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−	[[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#Is_it_possible_to_give_a_final_answer_to_the_meaning_of_the_abbreviation_SPQR.3F\|Professor Bersani explains]]: "The expansion of ['''~~SPQR~~'''~~] is "Senatus Populusque Romanus~~", a phrase which may be translated as "the Roman Estate" that is, the whole of the civic body and its institutional system."	+	[[Interview_with_Professor_Silvia_Giorcelli_Bersani#Is_it_possible_to_give_a_final_answer_to_the_meaning_of_the_abbreviation_SPQR.3F\|Professor Bersani explains]]: "The expansion of this abbreviation [ [[SPQR]] ] is "'''S'''enatus '''P'''opulus'''q'''ue '''R'''omanus", a phrase which may be translated as "the Roman Estate" that is, the whole of the civic body and its institutional system. This formula is significant because first of all it proclaims the whole of the civic body, represented by the [[Senate]] and the people (i.e. the sovereignty of the republic is one but is two-headed, and in it the Senate and the people are indivisible). However on the other hand this formula also discloses the prominence of the Senate over the people, and then underlines the limitations which the latter suffered."

	[[Aulus Apollonius Cordus (Nova Roma)\|A. Apollonius Cordus]] has noted: "...the		[[Aulus Apollonius Cordus (Nova Roma)\|A. Apollonius Cordus]] has noted: "...the