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Published {{Sep 12}} {{2007}} by [[Marcus Curiatius Complutensis (Nova Roma)|M. Curiatius Complutensis]] [[Tribuni plebis (Nova Roma)|''tribunus plebis'']].

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''[[Marcus Curiatius Complutensis (Nova Roma)|Marcus Curiatius Complutensis]] [[Tribuni plebis (Nova Roma)|Tribunus Plebis]] omnes civibus Novae Romae SPD''

REPORT OF SENATE SESSION

The [[Senate (Nova Roma)|Senate]] was called to order by the ''[[Praetor (Nova Roma)|Praetor]]'' [[Gaius Equitius Cato (Nova Roma)|Gaius Equitius Cato]] on ''pridie Nones Septembris'' (Sept. 2007, 4th).. with the following Agenda:

==AGENDA==

"The ''Senatus Consultum de Ratione Senatus'' is amended as follows:

:B. Any Senator who is unable to be present during the debate phase of a Senate session may give their proxy to another voting member of the Senate. This proxy will consist of an open letter to the Senate list that states the reason for the absence and the name of the Senator to whom the proxy is given. The proxy will last one Senate session unless specifically noted to last for a longer period of time."

The ''contio'' will begin at 12.00h Rome time on ''prid. Non. Sept.'' (Sept. 2007, 4th) and conclude at 12.00h Rome time on ''a.d. VIII Id. Sept.''(Sept. 2007, 7th).; voting will then begin, concluding at 12.00h Rome time ''a.d. IV Id. Sept'' (Sept. 2007, 10th).

On Sept 10th 2007 the latest session of the Senate of Nova Roma was declared closed by the ''Praetor'' Gaius Equitius Cato.

Here is the list of the voting Senators, listed by date and and reception time of their votes in the list of the Senate:

*[[Gaius Equitius Cato (Nova Roma)|GEC]] : Gaius Equitius CAto

*[[Gaius Popillius Laenas (Nova Roma)|GPL]]> G Popillius Laenas

*[[Gnaeus Equitius Marinus (Nova Roma)|GEM]]: Gnaeus Equitius Marinus

*[[Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Nova Roma)|QSP]]: Quintus Suetonius Paulinus

*[[Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur (Nova Roma)|LECA]]> L Equitius Cincinnatus Augur

*[[Tiberius Galerius Paulinus (Nova Roma)|TGP]]> Tiberius Galerius Paulinus (Proxy LECA)

*[[Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus (Nova Roma)|GFBM]]: Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus

*[[Pompeia Minucia Strabo (Nova Roma)|PMS]]> P Minucia Strabo

*[[Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus (Nova Roma)|TOPA]]> Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus

*[[Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (Nova Roma)|MMPH]]> M. Moravius Piscinus Horatianus

*[[Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus (Nova Roma)|CFBQ]]> Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus

*[[Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (Nova Roma)|DIPI]]> Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus

*[[Aula Tullia Scholastica (Nova Roma)|ATS]]> A Tullia Scholastica

*[[Aula Moraviua Aurelia (Nova Roma)|AMA]]> A. Moravia Aurelia

*[[Quintus Fabius Maximus (Nova Roma)|QFM]]> Q Fabius Maximus

*[[Gnaeus Salvius Astur (Nova Roma)|GSA]]> Gnaeus Salvius Astur [cast after voting had ended]

15 SENATORS EMITTED A VALID VOTE

RESULT OF THE VOTATIONS

:''VTI ROGAS'' 7

:''ANTIQUO'' 8

:''ABSTINEO'' 0

:NO VALID VOTE 1

THE ITEM IS NOT PASSED

==''DISCESSIONES'':==

*[[Gaius Equitius Cato (Nova Roma)|GEC]] : In the matter before the Senate, the amendation of the ''Senatus consultum de ratione senatus'', I say ''UTI ROGAS''

*[[Gaius Popillius Laenas (Nova Roma)|GPL]]> On the proposed change in proxy procedures: ''Uti Rogas''

*[[Gnaeus Equitius Marinus (Nova Roma)|GEM]]: On the sole issue before the Senate, concerning the assignment of proxies, I vote ''Uti Rogas'' I would cast the same vote for M. Minucius Audens, who assigned me his proxy, were it permitted by current law. Hopefully this amendment will pass and in the future I will be able to do so.

*[[Quintus Suetonius Paulinus (Nova Roma)|QSP]]: On the proposed change in proxy procedures: ''Uti Rogas''

*[[Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur (Nova Roma)|LECA]]> ''Vti Rogas'', Praetor Cato’s proposal is reasonable extrapolation of what *should have been* the proxy policy since its inception. If a Senator *knows* he will be absent for a *specific* period of time he should certainly be afforded the privilege of having his voice heard, and vote counted, despite his temporary absence. (My apologies to the ladies for my exclusive, and old fashioned use of the pronoun he. I am a RoMAN after all ;-)

*[[Tiberius Galerius Paulinus (Nova Roma)|TGP]]> Cincinnatus Augur: On behalf of Consul Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, ''Vti Rogas''

*[[Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus (Nova Roma)|GFBM]]: On the matter of proxy votes I vote: ''Antiquo''.

*[[Pompeia Minucia Strabo (Nova Roma)|PMS]]> On the agenda item of a change in proxy language: ''Antiquo''

:Our longstanding practice of giving out proxies *only* during the discussion period promotes informed and educated Senate votes. I think the people of Nova Roma deserve no less.

:A leave of absence, excusing a Senator from his duties for a time is, to me, far preferrable than allowing Senators to give proxies away ad lib, irrespective of any future agenda items to which their votes are to be attributed. I'm not taking credit for it, but I do applaud the Leave of Absence notion.

:Perhaps proxies have been issued here and there in the past outside ''contio'' proceedings , and what is done is done...but they've been issued against longstanding ''Senatus Consultum'' language. Errors are made every now and then...but we are voting on what we ought to do as lawful practice, and what is of the greater benefit to the republic.

*[[Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus (Nova Roma)|TOPA]]> ''Antiquo''.
:I agree with the statements made by some of my colleagues; The final sentence, "The proxy will last one Senate session unless specifically noted to last for a longer period of time.", is prone to misuse. Proxies should only be allowed on specific issues named in the message conferring the proxy vote.

*[[Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus (Nova Roma)|MMPH]]> ''ANTIQUO''

*[[Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus (Nova Roma)|CFBQ]]> My vote is: ''ANTIQUO''

*[[Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (Nova Roma)|DIPI]]> On the current item, I vote ''Antiquo''.

*[[Aula Tullia Scholastica (Nova Roma)|ATS]]> ''Antiquo''.

*[[Aula Moraviua Aurelia (Nova Roma)|AMA]]> My vote is: ''ANTIQUO''

*[[Quintus Fabius Maximus (Nova Roma)|QFM]]> ''UTI ROGAS''

*[[Gnaeus Salvius Astur (Nova Roma)|GSA]]> I vote AGAINST this proposal. "Voting proxies" are against Roman tradition, and do not make any sense in a consultive body like the Senate. How can you say: "I leave my experience and my capacity to give advice to this fella o'mine while I go fishing this week-end"? If a senator can not vote on a given occasion, so be it. But this "I vote for me and for my buddy" nonsense simply doesn't make sense.

''Curate ut valeate''

M·CVRIATIVS·COMPLVTENSIS

''TRIBVNVS PLEBIS''

NOVA ROMA
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''ex paucis multa, ex minimis maxima''

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Gaius Vipsanius Agrippa at 16:50, 22 June 2008

Aulus Apollonius Cordus: Feci.