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		<title>Aulus Apollonius Cordus: /* DEFAULTSORT and ''gentes''? */ Thanks.</title>
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				<updated>2007-09-10T17:09:53Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;DEFAULTSORT and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;gentes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;?: &lt;/span&gt; Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Yes, I added that bit just now. The piped sort key in the gens cat should over-ride the DEFAULTSORT. The general rule is that MediaWiki goes with whatever is called for last on the page. The piped cat is after the DEFAULTSORT, so we should be OK. There is no need to specify the whole name in bibliographic format as the sort key (DEFAULTSORT or piped in the cat tag) does NOT change the display format, just the sort order. If we want excruciatingly exact sorting it is enough to specify &amp;quot;Agerius Axus Aulus&amp;quot; or whatever. No need for punctuation etc. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|Agricola]] 02:29, 7 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Yes, I added that bit just now. The piped sort key in the gens cat should over-ride the DEFAULTSORT. The general rule is that MediaWiki goes with whatever is called for last on the page. The piped cat is after the DEFAULTSORT, so we should be OK. There is no need to specify the whole name in bibliographic format as the sort key (DEFAULTSORT or piped in the cat tag) does NOT change the display format, just the sort order. If we want excruciatingly exact sorting it is enough to specify &amp;quot;Agerius Axus Aulus&amp;quot; or whatever. No need for punctuation etc. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|Agricola]] 02:29, 7 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::Nifty, thanks.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::- [[User:Aulus Apollonius Cordus|Cordus]] 19:09, 10 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Aulus Apollonius Cordus</name></author>	</entry>

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		<id>http://novaroma.org/vici/index.php?title=Template_talk:Biography_Skeleton&amp;diff=14845&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>M. Lucretius Agricola: dona and done</title>
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				<updated>2007-09-07T00:29:57Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;dona and done&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;- [[User:Aulus Apollonius Cordus|Cordus]] 16:21, 5 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;- [[User:Aulus Apollonius Cordus|Cordus]] 16:21, 5 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:Yes, I added that bit just now. The piped sort key in the gens cat should over-ride the DEFAULTSORT. The general rule is that MediaWiki goes with whatever is called for last on the page. The piped cat is after the DEFAULTSORT, so we should be OK. There is no need to specify the whole name in bibliographic format as the sort key (DEFAULTSORT or piped in the cat tag) does NOT change the display format, just the sort order. If we want excruciatingly exact sorting it is enough to specify &amp;quot;Agerius Axus Aulus&amp;quot; or whatever. No need for punctuation etc. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|Agricola]] 02:29, 7 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>M. Lucretius Agricola</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>Aulus Apollonius Cordus: DEFAULTSORT and ''gentes''?</title>
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				<updated>2007-09-05T14:21:19Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;DEFAULTSORT and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;gentes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Save your changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Save your changes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== DEFAULTSORT and ''gentes''? ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Agricola, I see you've added something called DEFAULTSORT here.&amp;#160; From the changes you've made I can guess what this does, and it's a good idea, '''but'''...&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;When people are listed in their ''gens'' category, we want them listed by ''cognomen'', not by ''nomen''.&amp;#160; Otherwise they'll all be listed under the same letter.&amp;#160; Is there any way to override the default in the particular case of that category?&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;- [[User:Aulus Apollonius Cordus|Cordus]] 16:21, 5 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Aulus Apollonius Cordus</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>M. Lucretius Agricola: how to use</title>
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				<updated>2007-08-25T12:31:09Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;how to use&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==How to use this template==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do not edit this template!&lt;br /&gt;
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Create a new page with the name in the form &amp;quot;Aulus Agerius Axus (Nova Roma)&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Enter this on the first line:&lt;br /&gt;
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 &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{subst:Biography Skeleton}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Save the page.&lt;br /&gt;
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Open the page and edit it to contain the correct information. To not change the order of sections.&lt;br /&gt;
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Save your changes.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>M. Lucretius Agricola</name></author>	</entry>

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