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Template talk:LanguageBar

2006-07-05T16:41:55Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* Latin and English */

==Floating the bar==

Unless some wiki feature breaks it, you can replace
<nowiki><div align="center"></nowiki>
with
<nowiki><div style="margin:auto"> </nowiki>
to avoid using deprecated features. If we then use
<nowiki><div style="margin:auto;clear:both"></nowiki>
we should prevent anything wrapping with this bar. (Or we could use
<nowiki> <br style="clear:both" /> </nowiki>
above and below.) The next step is to eliminate the table entirely and use "float:left" for each cell. You can see the gory details in Template:FourUp where padding and margins are used to make a nice display. The advantage to this is that if they down't fit in the screen width, the elements in the bar will wrap rather than force a horizontal scroll. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|M. Lucretius Agricola]] 10:01, 9 April 2006 (CDT)

==Latin and English==

The <b>Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis</b> (adopted 27 Feb 2002) states that:

<i>
I. Due to the increasingly inter macronational nature of the Citizenship of Nova
Roma, it has become necessary for the official language policy of the Republic
to be defined, in such a way that acknowledges our historical antecedents,
practical concerns, and the sensibilities of all of our Citizens. To that end,
this Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis is adopted.

II. <b>Latin</b> is hereby adopted as the <b>official</b> ceremonial language of Nova Roma. As
such, it shall be used in rites conducted by the curule magistrates and
appointed priests of Nova Roma on behalf of the entire nation, as well as other
circumstances where it may be deemed appropriate.

III. <b>English</b> is hereby adopted as the <b>business language</b> of Nova Roma's central
government. As such, it shall be used in official communications from and
day-to-day business conducted by the central government (defined for purposes of
this proviso as the Senate and non provincial magistrates). Other languages may
be used in such communications where deemed appropriate, but an English
translation must accompany such communications.
</i>

This makes it absolutely clear that there are two languages that have a higher status than all others in Nova Roma, and they are <b>Latin</b>, the glorious language of our forefathers, and <b>English</b>, the most widely spoken language both inside of Nova Roma and outside. It is my firm conviction that it is absolutely in line both with the letter and the spirit of the Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis to divide the language bar into two: a primary, shorter one, above, including <b>Latin</b> and <b>English</b>, in this order and in some form of highlighted type (bold); and a secondary, longer one, below, including all other languages that may be considered necessary.

Now regarding those other languages, the Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis also has something very clear to say:

<i>
IV. In order to accommodate the Needs of Citizens who do not speak English, or
who speak English as a Second Language, and in accordance with section IV 9 of
the Constitution the Decuriae Interpretes is established.

...

4. Interpretes for the <b>five non-English and Latin Languages most widely spoken
in Nova Roma</b> are hereby established. Until such time as the Senate determines
which languages are most widely spoken, The Interpretes will provide
translations of the <b>French, German, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish</b> Languages.

5. The Language that <b>the remaining four</b> Interpretes shall provide <b>shall be
chosen by the Senate of Nova Roma</b>.
</i>

This makes absolutely clear which are the other languages that are to be given a place in the secondary language bar, these are <b>French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish</b>, and <b>four others</b> that shall be
<b>chosen</b> not by any given individual, but <b>by the Senate of Nova Roma</b>.

[[User:Aulus Gratius Garseius Avitus|A. Gratius Avitus]] 18:28, 4 July 2006 (CDT)

:Until we need the space for more languages, why not keep the new order, but on just one line? As it stands now we are using up two lines of valuable screen space when only one is needed. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|M. Lucretius Agricola]] 03:56, 5 July 2006 (CDT)

:::I'm afraid I disagree. I think it is important to convey the spirit of the Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis that clearly gives two languages a higher standing than any others in the Republic. This couldn't be conveyed by putting them all in the same line. Also, the "loss" of a line (but one can easily scroll down) doesn't seem to me at least to be such a big problem in comparison. In any case, at the discussion section of the [[Talk:Main_Page|Main Page]], I suggested another alternative, which is to put the languages in a separate box on the left hand side frame, as it is done in the non-English Wikipedias. Now, that would be a way to save space. [[User:Aulus Gratius Garseius Avitus|A. Gratius Avitus]] 11:38, 5 July 2006 (CDT)

==Esperanto==

I'm not sure that including Esperanto really gives us very much. It is not very widely used outside of the sphere of the Romance languages, and we have those covered pretty well. If we are going for completeness, a good case could be made for Finnish. That would probably serve more people. (5 million people at least speak Finnish. 2 million people at most speak Esperanto.) Of course, if we have an Esperanto translator eager and waiting, then by all means we should go ahead.

I know that Esperanto is promoted as a "universal" language, but it is only seen as such by Europeans. For people who do not use the Latin alphabet or do not speak a Romance language it is just another foreign language. It may have simpler syntax than English, but English syntax has not prevented English from becoming the most studied language in the world. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|M. Lucretius Agricola]] 16:59, 25 April 2006 (CDT)

:I think its inclusion should wait until we have a translator appointed; there's no sense in adding lots of links to pages that will never exist. [[User:Marcus Octavius Germanicus|Marcus Octavius Germanicus]][[User talk:Marcus Octavius Germanicus|<sup><font color="green" size="-2">(t)</font></sup>]] 17:18, 25 April 2006 (CDT)

::I agree that it is preposterous to add Esperanto, especially in the context of Nova Roma. We have our own Roman, international language already, and that is of course Latin. Please see above for a discussion of the languages that should appear in the language bars [[User:Aulus Gratius Garseius Avitus|A. Gratius Avitus]] 18:28, 4 July 2006 (CDT)

Template talk:LanguageBar

2006-07-05T16:38:08Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* Latin and English */

==Floating the bar==

Unless some wiki feature breaks it, you can replace
<nowiki><div align="center"></nowiki>
with
<nowiki><div style="margin:auto"> </nowiki>
to avoid using deprecated features. If we then use
<nowiki><div style="margin:auto;clear:both"></nowiki>
we should prevent anything wrapping with this bar. (Or we could use
<nowiki> <br style="clear:both" /> </nowiki>
above and below.) The next step is to eliminate the table entirely and use "float:left" for each cell. You can see the gory details in Template:FourUp where padding and margins are used to make a nice display. The advantage to this is that if they down't fit in the screen width, the elements in the bar will wrap rather than force a horizontal scroll. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|M. Lucretius Agricola]] 10:01, 9 April 2006 (CDT)

==Latin and English==

The <b>Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis</b> (adopted 27 Feb 2002) states that:

<i>
I. Due to the increasingly inter macronational nature of the Citizenship of Nova
Roma, it has become necessary for the official language policy of the Republic
to be defined, in such a way that acknowledges our historical antecedents,
practical concerns, and the sensibilities of all of our Citizens. To that end,
this Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis is adopted.

II. <b>Latin</b> is hereby adopted as the <b>official</b> ceremonial language of Nova Roma. As
such, it shall be used in rites conducted by the curule magistrates and
appointed priests of Nova Roma on behalf of the entire nation, as well as other
circumstances where it may be deemed appropriate.

III. <b>English</b> is hereby adopted as the <b>business language</b> of Nova Roma's central
government. As such, it shall be used in official communications from and
day-to-day business conducted by the central government (defined for purposes of
this proviso as the Senate and non provincial magistrates). Other languages may
be used in such communications where deemed appropriate, but an English
translation must accompany such communications.
</i>

This makes it absolutely clear that there are two languages that have a higher status than all others in Nova Roma, and they are <b>Latin</b>, the glorious language of our forefathers, and <b>English</b>, the most widely spoken language both inside of Nova Roma and outside. It is my firm conviction that it is absolutely in line both with the letter and the spirit of the Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis to divide the language bar into two: a primary, shorter one, above, including <b>Latin</b> and <b>English</b>, in this order and in some form of highlighted type (bold); and a secondary, longer one, below, including all other languages that may be considered necessary.

Now regarding those other languages, the Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis also has something very clear to say:

<i>
IV. In order to accommodate the Needs of Citizens who do not speak English, or
who speak English as a Second Language, and in accordance with section IV 9 of
the Constitution the Decuriae Interpretes is established.

...

4. Interpretes for the <b>five non-English and Latin Languages most widely spoken
in Nova Roma</b> are hereby established. Until such time as the Senate determines
which languages are most widely spoken, The Interpretes will provide
translations of the <b>French, German, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish</b> Languages.

5. The Language that <b>the remaining four</b> Interpretes shall provide <b>shall be
chosen by the Senate of Nova Roma</b>.
</i>

This makes absolutely clear which are the other languages that are to be given a place in the secondary language bar, these are <b>French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish</b>, and <b>four others</b> that shall be
<b>chosen</b> not by any given individual, but <b>by the Senate of Nova Roma</b>.

[[User:Aulus Gratius Garseius Avitus|A. Gratius Avitus]] 18:28, 4 July 2006 (CDT)

:Until we need the space for more languages, why not keep the new order, but on just one line? As it stands now we are using up two lines of valuable screen space when only one is needed. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|M. Lucretius Agricola]] 03:56, 5 July 2006 (CDT)

:::I'm afraid I disagree. I think it is important to convey the spirit of the Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis that clearly gives two languages a higher standing than any others in the Republic. This couldn't be conveyed by putting them all in the same line. Also, the "loss" of a line (but one can easily scroll down) doesn't seem to me at least to be such a big problem in comparison. In any case, at the discussion section of the main page, I suggested another alternative, which is to put the languages in a separate box on the left hand side frame, as it is done in the non-English Wikipedias. Now, that would be a way to save space. [[User:Aulus Gratius Garseius Avitus|A. Gratius Avitus]] 11:38, 5 July 2006 (CDT)

==Esperanto==

I'm not sure that including Esperanto really gives us very much. It is not very widely used outside of the sphere of the Romance languages, and we have those covered pretty well. If we are going for completeness, a good case could be made for Finnish. That would probably serve more people. (5 million people at least speak Finnish. 2 million people at most speak Esperanto.) Of course, if we have an Esperanto translator eager and waiting, then by all means we should go ahead.

I know that Esperanto is promoted as a "universal" language, but it is only seen as such by Europeans. For people who do not use the Latin alphabet or do not speak a Romance language it is just another foreign language. It may have simpler syntax than English, but English syntax has not prevented English from becoming the most studied language in the world. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|M. Lucretius Agricola]] 16:59, 25 April 2006 (CDT)

:I think its inclusion should wait until we have a translator appointed; there's no sense in adding lots of links to pages that will never exist. [[User:Marcus Octavius Germanicus|Marcus Octavius Germanicus]][[User talk:Marcus Octavius Germanicus|<sup><font color="green" size="-2">(t)</font></sup>]] 17:18, 25 April 2006 (CDT)

::I agree that it is preposterous to add Esperanto, especially in the context of Nova Roma. We have our own Roman, international language already, and that is of course Latin. Please see above for a discussion of the languages that should appear in the language bars [[User:Aulus Gratius Garseius Avitus|A. Gratius Avitus]] 18:28, 4 July 2006 (CDT)

LA:NovaRoma:Litteratura Latina

2006-07-05T01:31:18Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus:

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Litteratura Latina}}

Hæc sunt regulæ quas sequimur ut Latiné scribamus in hóc wiki.

==Cursiva==

Verba Latina quæ usurpantur in articulis non Latiné scriptis adhibentur litteris "cursivis". Exempli gratiá:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution of the Roman Republic'', p. 73)

==U et V==

Litterá "U" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "V", dum litterá "V" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "V". Exempli gratiá:

:Clámor ad cæl'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per æthera '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Enni ''Annalium'' fr. 421 W)

==I et J==

Litterá "J" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "I", dum litterá "I" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "I". Exempli gratiá:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longé al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livi ''Ab urbe condita'' 1,57,7)

==Apices==

In locis continenter Latiné scriptis apicibus notantur vocales productæ; sed hoc non fit cum nomina, verba seu locutiones Latinæ usurpantur in sententiis vernaculis. Exempli gratiá:

:"Est igitur," inquit '''Á'''fric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s publica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum cœtus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed cœtus multit'''ú'''dinis j'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''ns'''é'''ns'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tulli Ciceronis ''De re publicá'' 1,25,39)

NovaRoma:Latin orthography

2006-07-05T01:29:06Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* U and V */

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

These are the rules that we follow for writing Latin in this wiki.

==Italics==

Latin words used in articles which are not written in Latin are placed in ''italics''. For example:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution Of The Roman Republic'', p.73)

==U and V==

The letter "U" is used to represent the vowel written "V" by the Romans, while the letter "V" is used for the consonant written "V" by the Romans. For example:

:Clámor ad cæl'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per æthera '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Ennius, ''Annales'', fr. 421 W.)

==I and J==

The letter "J" is used to represent the consonant written "I" by the Romans, while the letter "I" is used for the vowel written "I" by the Romans. For example:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longé al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livius, ''Ab urbe condita'', 1.57.7)

==''Apices''==

In continuous passages of Latin, ''apices'' are used to mark long vowels; but this is not done when Latin names, words, or phrases are used in vernacular sentences. For example:

:"Est igitur," inquit '''Á'''fric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s publica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum cœtus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed cœtus multit'''ú'''dinis j'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''ns'''é'''ns'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tullius Cicero, ''De re publica'', 1.25.39)

LA:NovaRoma:Litteratura Latina

2006-07-05T01:28:43Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* U et V */

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

Hæc sunt regulæ quas sequimur ut Latiné scribamus in hóc wiki.

==Cursiva==

Verba Latina quæ usurpantur in articulis non Latiné scriptis adhibentur litteris "cursivis". Exempli gratiá:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution of the Roman Republic'', p. 73)

==U et V==

Litterá "U" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "V", dum litterá "V" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "V". Exempli gratiá:

:Clámor ad cæl'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per æthera '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Enni ''Annalium'' fr. 421 W)

==I et J==

Litterá "J" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "I", dum litterá "I" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "I". Exempli gratiá:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longé al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livi ''Ab urbe condita'' 1,57,7)

==Apices==

In locis continenter Latiné scriptis apicibus notantur vocales productæ; sed hoc non fit cum nomina, verba seu locutiones Latinæ usurpantur in sententiis vernaculis. Exempli gratiá:

:"Est igitur," inquit '''Á'''fric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s publica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum cœtus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed cœtus multit'''ú'''dinis j'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''ns'''é'''ns'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tulli Ciceronis ''De re publicá'' 1,25,39)

LA:NovaRoma:Litteratura Latina

2006-07-05T01:28:20Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* I et J */

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

Hæc sunt regulæ quas sequimur ut Latiné scribamus in hóc wiki.

==Cursiva==

Verba Latina quæ usurpantur in articulis non Latiné scriptis adhibentur litteris "cursivis". Exempli gratiá:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution of the Roman Republic'', p. 73)

==U et V==

Litterá "U" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "V", dum litterá "V" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "V". Exempli gratiá:

:Clámor ad cæl'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per ætherá '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Enni ''Annalium'' fr. 421 W)

==I et J==

Litterá "J" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "I", dum litterá "I" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "I". Exempli gratiá:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longé al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livi ''Ab urbe condita'' 1,57,7)

==Apices==

In locis continenter Latiné scriptis apicibus notantur vocales productæ; sed hoc non fit cum nomina, verba seu locutiones Latinæ usurpantur in sententiis vernaculis. Exempli gratiá:

:"Est igitur," inquit '''Á'''fric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s publica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum cœtus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed cœtus multit'''ú'''dinis j'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''ns'''é'''ns'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tulli Ciceronis ''De re publicá'' 1,25,39)

NovaRoma:Latin orthography

2006-07-05T01:28:00Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* I and J */

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

These are the rules that we follow for writing Latin in this wiki.

==Italics==

Latin words used in articles which are not written in Latin are placed in ''italics''. For example:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution Of The Roman Republic'', p.73)

==U and V==

The letter "U" is used to represent the vowel written "V" by the Romans, while the letter "V" is used for the consonant written "V" by the Romans. For example:

:Clámor ad cæl'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per ætherá '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Ennius, ''Annales'', fr. 421 W.)

==I and J==

The letter "J" is used to represent the consonant written "I" by the Romans, while the letter "I" is used for the vowel written "I" by the Romans. For example:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longé al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livius, ''Ab urbe condita'', 1.57.7)

==''Apices''==

In continuous passages of Latin, ''apices'' are used to mark long vowels; but this is not done when Latin names, words, or phrases are used in vernacular sentences. For example:

:"Est igitur," inquit '''Á'''fric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s publica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum cœtus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed cœtus multit'''ú'''dinis j'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''ns'''é'''ns'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tullius Cicero, ''De re publica'', 1.25.39)

NovaRoma:Latin orthography

2006-07-05T01:27:01Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* ''Apices'' */

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

These are the rules that we follow for writing Latin in this wiki.

==Italics==

Latin words used in articles which are not written in Latin are placed in ''italics''. For example:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution Of The Roman Republic'', p.73)

==U and V==

The letter "U" is used to represent the vowel written "V" by the Romans, while the letter "V" is used for the consonant written "V" by the Romans. For example:

:Clámor ad cæl'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per ætherá '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Ennius, ''Annales'', fr. 421 W.)

==I and J==

The letter "J" is used to represent the consonant written "I" by the Romans, while the letter "I" is used for the vowel written "I" by the Romans. For example:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longe al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livius, ''Ab urbe condita'', 1.57.7)

==''Apices''==

In continuous passages of Latin, ''apices'' are used to mark long vowels; but this is not done when Latin names, words, or phrases are used in vernacular sentences. For example:

:"Est igitur," inquit '''Á'''fric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s publica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum cœtus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed cœtus multit'''ú'''dinis j'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''ns'''é'''ns'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tullius Cicero, ''De re publica'', 1.25.39)

LA:NovaRoma:Litteratura Latina

2006-07-05T01:26:17Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* U et V */

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

Hæc sunt regulæ quas sequimur ut Latiné scribamus in hóc wiki.

==Cursiva==

Verba Latina quæ usurpantur in articulis non Latiné scriptis adhibentur litteris "cursivis". Exempli gratiá:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution of the Roman Republic'', p. 73)

==U et V==

Litterá "U" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "V", dum litterá "V" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "V". Exempli gratiá:

:Clámor ad cæl'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per ætherá '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Enni ''Annalium'' fr. 421 W)

==I et J==

Litterá "J" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "I", dum litterá "I" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "I". Exempli gratiá:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longe al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livi ''Ab urbe condita'' 1,57,7)

==Apices==

In locis continenter Latiné scriptis apicibus notantur vocales productæ; sed hoc non fit cum nomina, verba seu locutiones Latinæ usurpantur in sententiis vernaculis. Exempli gratiá:

:"Est igitur," inquit '''Á'''fric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s publica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum cœtus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed cœtus multit'''ú'''dinis j'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''ns'''é'''ns'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tulli Ciceronis ''De re publicá'' 1,25,39)

LA:NovaRoma:Litteratura Latina

2006-07-05T01:25:57Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* Apices */

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

Hæc sunt regulæ quas sequimur ut Latiné scribamus in hóc wiki.

==Cursiva==

Verba Latina quæ usurpantur in articulis non Latiné scriptis adhibentur litteris "cursivis". Exempli gratiá:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution of the Roman Republic'', p. 73)

==U et V==

Litterá "U" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "V", dum litterá "V" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "V". Exempli gratiá:

:Clámor ad cæl'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per ætherá '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Enni ''Annalium'' fr. 421 W.)

==I et J==

Litterá "J" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "I", dum litterá "I" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "I". Exempli gratiá:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longe al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livi ''Ab urbe condita'' 1,57,7)

==Apices==

In locis continenter Latiné scriptis apicibus notantur vocales productæ; sed hoc non fit cum nomina, verba seu locutiones Latinæ usurpantur in sententiis vernaculis. Exempli gratiá:

:"Est igitur," inquit '''Á'''fric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s publica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum cœtus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed cœtus multit'''ú'''dinis j'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''ns'''é'''ns'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tulli Ciceronis ''De re publicá'' 1,25,39)

LA:NovaRoma:Litteratura Latina

2006-07-05T01:25:40Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* I et J */

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

Hæc sunt regulæ quas sequimur ut Latiné scribamus in hóc wiki.

==Cursiva==

Verba Latina quæ usurpantur in articulis non Latiné scriptis adhibentur litteris "cursivis". Exempli gratiá:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution of the Roman Republic'', p. 73)

==U et V==

Litterá "U" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "V", dum litterá "V" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "V". Exempli gratiá:

:Clámor ad cæl'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per ætherá '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Enni ''Annalium'' fr. 421 W.)

==I et J==

Litterá "J" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "I", dum litterá "I" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "I". Exempli gratiá:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longe al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livi ''Ab urbe condita'' 1,57,7)

==Apices==

In locis continenter Latiné scriptis apicibus notantur vocales productæ; sed hoc non fit cum nomina, verba seu locutiones Latinæ usurpantur in sententiis vernaculis. Exempli gratiá:

:"Est igitur," inquit '''Á'''fric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s publica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum cœtus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed cœtus multit'''ú'''dinis j'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''ns'''é'''ns'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tulli Ciceronis ''De re publicá'' 1.25.39)

LA:NovaRoma:Litteratura Latina

2006-07-05T01:25:08Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus:

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

Hæc sunt regulæ quas sequimur ut Latiné scribamus in hóc wiki.

==Cursiva==

Verba Latina quæ usurpantur in articulis non Latiné scriptis adhibentur litteris "cursivis". Exempli gratiá:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution of the Roman Republic'', p. 73)

==U et V==

Litterá "U" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "V", dum litterá "V" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "V". Exempli gratiá:

:Clámor ad cæl'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per ætherá '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Enni ''Annalium'' fr. 421 W.)

==I et J==

Litterá "J" significatur consonans quam Romani scribebant "I", dum litterá "I" significatur vocalis quam Romani scribebant "I". Exempli gratiá:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longe al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livi ''Ab urbe condita'' 1.57.7)

==Apices==

In locis continenter Latiné scriptis apicibus notantur vocales productæ; sed hoc non fit cum nomina, verba seu locutiones Latinæ usurpantur in sententiis vernaculis. Exempli gratiá:

:"Est igitur," inquit '''Á'''fric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s publica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum cœtus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed cœtus multit'''ú'''dinis j'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''ns'''é'''ns'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tulli Ciceronis ''De re publicá'' 1.25.39)

NovaRoma:Latin orthography

2006-07-05T01:12:53Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* ''Apices'' */

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

These are the rules that we follow for writing Latin in this wiki.

==Italics==

Latin words used in articles which are not written in Latin are placed in ''italics''. For example:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution Of The Roman Republic'', p.73)

==U and V==

The letter "U" is used to represent the vowel written "V" by the Romans, while the letter "V" is used for the consonant written "V" by the Romans. For example:

:Clámor ad cæl'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per ætherá '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Ennius, ''Annales'', fr. 421 W.)

==I and J==

The letter "J" is used to represent the consonant written "I" by the Romans, while the letter "I" is used for the vowel written "I" by the Romans. For example:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longe al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livius, ''Ab urbe condita'', 1.57.7)

==''Apices''==

In continuous passages of Latin, ''apices'' are used to mark long vowels; but this is not done when Latin names, words, or phrases are used in English sentences. For example:

:"Est igitur," inquit '''Á'''fric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s publica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum cœtus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed cœtus multit'''ú'''dinis j'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''ns'''é'''ns'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tullius Cicero, ''De re publica'', 1.25.39)

NovaRoma:Latin orthography

2006-07-05T01:11:42Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* U and V */

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

These are the rules that we follow for writing Latin in this wiki.

==Italics==

Latin words used in articles which are not written in Latin are placed in ''italics''. For example:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution Of The Roman Republic'', p.73)

==U and V==

The letter "U" is used to represent the vowel written "V" by the Romans, while the letter "V" is used for the consonant written "V" by the Romans. For example:

:Clámor ad cæl'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per ætherá '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Ennius, ''Annales'', fr. 421 W.)

==I and J==

The letter "J" is used to represent the consonant written "I" by the Romans, while the letter "I" is used for the vowel written "I" by the Romans. For example:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longe al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livius, ''Ab urbe condita'', 1.57.7)

==''Apices''==

In continuous passages of Latin, ''apices'' are used to mark long vowels; but this is not done when Latin names, words, or phrases are used in English sentences. For example:

:"Est igitur," inquit '''Á'''fric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s publica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum cœtus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed cœtus multit'''ú'''dinis j'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''nsens'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tullius Cicero, ''De re publica'', 1.25.39)

NovaRoma:Latin orthography

2006-07-05T01:10:34Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* ''Apices'' */

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

These are the rules that we follow for writing Latin in this wiki.

==Italics==

Latin words used in articles which are not written in Latin are placed in ''italics''. For example:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution Of The Roman Republic'', p.73)

==U and V==

The letter "U" is used to represent the vowel written "V" by the Romans, while the letter "V" is used for the consonant written "V" by the Romans. For example:

:Clámor ad cael'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per aetherá '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Ennius, ''Annales'', fr. 421 W.)

==I and J==

The letter "J" is used to represent the consonant written "I" by the Romans, while the letter "I" is used for the vowel written "I" by the Romans. For example:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longe al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livius, ''Ab urbe condita'', 1.57.7)

==''Apices''==

In continuous passages of Latin, ''apices'' are used to mark long vowels; but this is not done when Latin names, words, or phrases are used in English sentences. For example:

:"Est igitur," inquit '''Á'''fric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s publica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum cœtus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed cœtus multit'''ú'''dinis j'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''nsens'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tullius Cicero, ''De re publica'', 1.25.39)

NovaRoma:Latin orthography

2006-07-05T01:08:08Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* U and V */

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

These are the rules that we follow for writing Latin in this wiki.

==Italics==

Latin words used in articles which are not written in Latin are placed in ''italics''. For example:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution Of The Roman Republic'', p.73)

==U and V==

The letter "U" is used to represent the vowel written "V" by the Romans, while the letter "V" is used for the consonant written "V" by the Romans. For example:

:Clámor ad cael'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per aetherá '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Ennius, ''Annales'', fr. 421 W.)

==I and J==

The letter "J" is used to represent the consonant written "I" by the Romans, while the letter "I" is used for the vowel written "I" by the Romans. For example:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longe al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livius, ''Ab urbe condita'', 1.57.7)

==''Apices''==

In continuous passages of Latin, ''apices'' are used to mark long vowels; but this is not done when Latin names, words, or phrases are used in English sentences. For example:

:"Est igitur," inquit Afric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s p'''ú'''blica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum coetus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed coetus multit'''ú'''dinis i'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''nsens'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tullius Cicero, ''de re publica'', 1.25.39)

NovaRoma:Latin orthography

2006-07-05T01:07:19Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* I and J */ It is preposterous to observe a different standard for u/v and for i/j

{{LanguageBar | NovaRoma:Latin orthography}}

These are the rules that we follow for writing Latin in this wiki.

==Italics==

Latin words used in articles which are not written in Latin are placed in ''italics''. For example:

:There is also a not entirely clear tradition about ''senacula'', of which there were said to have been three, one on the Capitol by the temple of Concord, one by the temple of Bellona, and one at the ''porta Capena''.

:(Andrew Lintott, ''The Constitution Of The Roman Republic'', p.73)

==U and V==

The letter "U" is used to represent the vowel written "V" by the Romans, while the letter "V" is used for the consonant written "V" by the Romans. For example:

:Clámor ad cael'''u'''m '''v'''ol'''v'''end'''u'''s per aetherá '''v'''ágit.

:(Q. Ennius, ''annales'', fr. 421 W.)

==I and J==

The letter "J" is used to represent the consonant written "I" by the Romans, while the letter "I" is used for the vowel written "I" by the Romans. For example:

:Comés '''ií'''s add'''i'''tus L. '''J'''ún'''i'''us Brútus Tarqu'''i'''n'''i'''á soróre rég'''i'''s nátus, '''j'''uven'''i'''s longe al'''i'''us '''i'''ngen'''ií''', quam cu'''j'''us s'''i'''mulát'''i'''ónem '''i'''nduerat.

:(T. Livius, ''Ab urbe condita'', 1.57.7)

==''Apices''==

In continuous passages of Latin, ''apices'' are used to mark long vowels; but this is not done when Latin names, words, or phrases are used in English sentences. For example:

:"Est igitur," inquit Afric'''á'''nus, "r'''é'''s p'''ú'''blica r'''é'''s popul'''í''', populus autem n'''ó'''n omnis hominum coetus qu'''ó'''qu'''ó''' mod'''ó''' congreg'''á'''tus, sed coetus multit'''ú'''dinis i'''ú'''ris c'''ó'''nsens'''ú''' et '''ú'''tilit'''á'''tis comm'''ú'''ni'''ó'''ne soci'''á'''tus."

:(M. Tullius Cicero, ''de re publica'', 1.25.39)

Template talk:LanguageBar

2006-07-05T01:03:15Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: /* Latin and English */

==Floating the bar==

Unless some wiki feature breaks it, you can replace
<nowiki><div align="center"></nowiki>
with
<nowiki><div style="margin:auto"> </nowiki>
to avoid using deprecated features. If we then use
<nowiki><div style="margin:auto;clear:both"></nowiki>
we should prevent anything wrapping with this bar. (Or we could use
<nowiki> <br style="clear:both" /> </nowiki>
above and below.) The next step is to eliminate the table entirely and use "float:left" for each cell. You can see the gory details in Template:FourUp where padding and margins are used to make a nice display. The advantage to this is that if they down't fit in the screen width, the elements in the bar will wrap rather than force a horizontal scroll. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|M. Lucretius Agricola]] 10:01, 9 April 2006 (CDT)

==Latin and English==

The <b>Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis</b> (adopted 27 Feb 2002) states that:

<i>
I. Due to the increasingly inter macronational nature of the Citizenship of Nova
Roma, it has become necessary for the official language policy of the Republic
to be defined, in such a way that acknowledges our historical antecedents,
practical concerns, and the sensibilities of all of our Citizens. To that end,
this Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis is adopted.

II. <b>Latin</b> is hereby adopted as the <b>official</b> ceremonial language of Nova Roma. As
such, it shall be used in rites conducted by the curule magistrates and
appointed priests of Nova Roma on behalf of the entire nation, as well as other
circumstances where it may be deemed appropriate.

III. <b>English</b> is hereby adopted as the <b>business language</b> of Nova Roma's central
government. As such, it shall be used in official communications from and
day-to-day business conducted by the central government (defined for purposes of
this proviso as the Senate and non provincial magistrates). Other languages may
be used in such communications where deemed appropriate, but an English
translation must accompany such communications.
</i>

This makes it absolutely clear that there are two languages that have a higher status than all others in Nova Roma, and they are <b>Latin</b>, the glorious language of our forefathers, and <b>English</b>, the most widely spoken language both inside of Nova Roma and outside. It is my firm conviction that it is absolutely in line both with the letter and the spirit of the Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis to divide the language bar into two: a primary, shorter one, above, including <b>Latin</b> and <b>English</b>, in this order and in some form of highlighted type (bold); and a secondary, longer one, below, including all other languages that may be considered necessary.

Now regarding those other languages, the Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis also has something very clear to say:

<i>
IV. In order to accommodate the Needs of Citizens who do not speak English, or
who speak English as a Second Language, and in accordance with section IV 9 of
the Constitution the Decuriae Interpretes is established.

...

4. Interpretes for the <b>five non-English and Latin Languages most widely spoken
in Nova Roma</b> are hereby established. Until such time as the Senate determines
which languages are most widely spoken, The Interpretes will provide
translations of the <b>French, German, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish</b> Languages.

5. The Language that <b>the remaining four</b> Interpretes shall provide <b>shall be
chosen by the Senate of Nova Roma</b>.
</i>

This makes absolutely clear which are the other languages that are to be given a place in the secondary language bar, these are <b>French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish</b>, and <b>four others</b> that shall be
<b>chosen</b> not by any given individual, but <b>by the Senate of Nova Roma</b>.

[[User:Aulus Gratius Garseius Avitus|A. Gratius Avitus]] 18:28, 4 July 2006 (CDT)

==Esperanto==

I'm not sure that including Esperanto really gives us very much. It is not very widely used outside of the sphere of the Romance languages, and we have those covered pretty well. If we are going for completeness, a good case could be made for Finnish. That would probably serve more people. (5 million people at least speak Finnish. 2 million people at most speak Esperanto.) Of course, if we have an Esperanto translator eager and waiting, then by all means we should go ahead.

I know that Esperanto is promoted as a "universal" language, but it is only seen as such by Europeans. For people who do not use the Latin alphabet or do not speak a Romance language it is just another foreign language. It may have simpler syntax than English, but English syntax has not prevented English from becoming the most studied language in the world. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|M. Lucretius Agricola]] 16:59, 25 April 2006 (CDT)

:I think its inclusion should wait until we have a translator appointed; there's no sense in adding lots of links to pages that will never exist. [[User:Marcus Octavius Germanicus|Marcus Octavius Germanicus]][[User talk:Marcus Octavius Germanicus|<sup><font color="green" size="-2">(t)</font></sup>]] 17:18, 25 April 2006 (CDT)

::I agree that it is preposterous to add Esperanto, especially in the context of Nova Roma. We have our own Roman, international language already, and that is of course Latin. Please see above for a discussion of the languages that should appear in the language bars [[User:Aulus Gratius Garseius Avitus|A. Gratius Avitus]] 18:28, 4 July 2006 (CDT)

Talk:Main Page

2006-07-05T01:01:21Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus:

I suggest we make a policy that the language bar always be the very first item on the page. After all, a chage in language should change ALL the content, but placing content above the language bar seems to imply the the above-the-bar content will be immune from change. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|M. Lucretius Agricola]] 10:29, 9 April 2006 (CDT)

:Alternatively, and after looking at how Wikipedia (except the English edition) deals with languages (cf. [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauptseite German Wikipedia], [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portada Spanish Wikipedia], etc.), we could put the languages option as a box on the left hand side column, under navigation, search and toolbox. But see my considerations about the [[Template_talk:LanguageBar|language bar]] too. [[User:Aulus Gratius Garseius Avitus|A. Gratius Avitus]] 17:58, 4 July 2006 (CDT)

== Conventus ==

Could we add a link to [[V Conventus Novae Romae]] in the "Current Events" box to encourage people to come? [[User:Aulus Apollonius Cordus|Cordus]] 12:02, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

:Sure; you're an admin, you can just go ahead and do it. The template used for this on the main page is [[Template:Current Events Shortlist]]. [[User:Marcus Octavius Germanicus|Marcus Octavius Germanicus]][[User talk:Marcus Octavius Germanicus|<sup><font color="green" size="-2">(t)</font></sup>]] 14:09, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

LA:Pagina Prima

2006-07-05T00:54:46Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: et Homerus dormitat aliquando: of course citizens is cives, not civites!

{{LanguageBar|Main Page}}
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===Rés Publica===
*[[Nova Roma|Nova Róma]] – Quid sit <i>Nova Róma</i> - [[FAQ]]
*[[:Category:Tabularium (Nova Roma)|Tabulárium]] - Légés, Édicta, Cónstitútió
*[[:Category:Magistrates (Nova Roma)|Magistrátús]] [[:Category:Senators (Nova Roma)|Senátórés]]que
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/provinciae Próvinciæ] eárumque [[Provinciae Aranearia (Nova_Roma)|Páginæ électronicæ]]
*[[Annals (Nova Roma) | Novæ Rómæ Annálés]] – gesta nostra
*[[Ager Publicus (Nova Roma)|Ager Publicus]]

===Religió Rómána===
*[[:Category:Religio Romana (Nova Roma)|Religió Rómána]]
*[[Priests (Nova Roma)|Sacerdótés et Sacerdótia]]
*[[:Category:Ritus (Nova Roma)|Ritús Sacraque]]
*[[Roman Calendar|Fastí]]
*[[Comitia Curiata (Nova Roma)|Comitia Cúriáta]]

===Cívés===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gentes Album Gentium]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gallery Pinacothéca]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/reenactments/ Campus Mártius (exercitátiónés mílitárés)]
*[[Sodalitates (Nova Roma)|Sodálitátés]]

===Via Rómána===
*[[Mórés Rómání]]
*[[Roman Virtues|Virtútés Rómánæ]]
*[[LA:Lingua Latina|Lingua Latína]]
*[[:Category:Bibliotheca|Caménæum]] – Litteræ et Artés

===Forum===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/forum/ Forum Rómánum]
*[http://www.insulaumbra.com/academiathules/ Académía Thúlés]
*[[Macellum (Nova Roma)|Macellum]]
*[[Interview the Expert|Perítum Cónsule]]
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* [[FAQ|Frequenter Allátæ Quæstiónés]]
* [[Choosing a Roman name| Quómodó sit Nómen Éligendum]]
* '''[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/apply Cívitátem Postulá]'''
* [[New citizen first steps|Cívibus Novís]] ''Quid nunc faciam?''
* [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/ Forum électronicum] – Intrá
}}

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* Cívis esse debés: [http://www.novaroma.org/bin/apply Cívitátem postula]
* Persónam Wiki creá: [[Special:Userlogin | In tabúlás té refer]]
* Vidé [[NovaRoma:Community Portal|Portam Cívitátis]] ut cónsilia legás

[[NovaRoma:Admin Requests|Scríbe]] [[NovaRoma:WikiMagisters|WikiMagistrís]] sí quid vís.
}}

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2006-07-05T00:54:02Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: et Homerus dormitat aliquando: of course citizens is cives, not civites!

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===Res Publica ''(the Republic)''===
*[[Nova Roma]] - What is ''Nova Roma''? - [[FAQ]]
*[[:Category:Tabularium (Nova Roma)|Tabularium]] - Laws, Edicts, Constitution
*[[:Category:Magistrates (Nova Roma)|Magistrates]] and [[:Category:Senators (Nova Roma)|Senators]]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/provinciae Provinciae] and [[Provinciae Aranearia (Nova_Roma)|Provincial Websites]]
*[[Annals (Nova Roma) | Annals of Nova Roma]] - our history
*[[Ager Publicus (Nova Roma)|Ager Publicus]] - our land

===Religio Romana ''(Roman Religion)''===
*[[:Category:Religio Romana (Nova Roma)|Religio Romana]]
*[[Priests (Nova Roma)|Priests and Priesthoods]]
*[[:Category:Ritus (Nova Roma)|Rites and Rituals]]
*[[Roman Calendar]]
*[[Comitia Curiata (Nova Roma)|Comitia Curiata]]

===Cives ''(Citizens)''===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gentes Album Gentium] - list of gentes and citizens
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gallery Pinacotheca (Photo Gallery) ]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/reenactments/ Campus Martius (reenactments)]
*[[Sodalitates (Nova Roma)|Sodalitates]] - Special Interest Groups

===Via Romana ''(the Roman Way)''===
*[[Via Romana]]
*[[Roman Virtues]]
*[[Lingua Latina]] - the Latin Language
*[[:Category:Bibliotheca|Camenaeum]] - Literature and Art

===Forum ''(communication, marketplace)''===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/forum/ Community Forum]
*[http://www.insulaumbra.com/academiathules/ Academia Thules] - our first University
*[[Macellum (Nova Roma)|Macellum]] - Marketplace
*[[Interview the Expert]]
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* [[FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]]
* [[Choosing a Roman name]]
* '''[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/apply Apply for Membership]'''
* [[New citizen first steps|For New Citizens]] ''now what do I do?''
* [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/ Nova Roma Mailing List] - join our email discussion list
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LA:Pagina Prima

2006-07-05T00:35:14Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: Some more

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===Rés Publica===
*[[Nova Roma|Nova Róma]] – Quid sit <i>Nova Róma</i> - [[FAQ]]
*[[:Category:Tabularium (Nova Roma)|Tabulárium]] - Légés, Édicta, Cónstitútió
*[[:Category:Magistrates (Nova Roma)|Magistrátús]] [[:Category:Senators (Nova Roma)|Senátórés]]que
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/provinciae Próvinciæ] eárumque [[Provinciae Aranearia (Nova_Roma)|Páginæ électronicæ]]
*[[Annals (Nova Roma) | Novæ Rómæ Annálés]] – gesta nostra
*[[Ager Publicus (Nova Roma)|Ager Publicus]]

===Religió Rómána===
*[[:Category:Religio Romana (Nova Roma)|Religió Rómána]]
*[[Priests (Nova Roma)|Sacerdótés et Sacerdótia]]
*[[:Category:Ritus (Nova Roma)|Ritús Sacraque]]
*[[Roman Calendar|Fastí]]
*[[Comitia Curiata (Nova Roma)|Comitia Cúriáta]]

===Cívités===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gentes Album Gentium]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gallery Pinacothéca]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/reenactments/ Campus Mártius (exercitátiónés mílitárés)]
*[[Sodalitates (Nova Roma)|Sodálitátés]]

===Via Rómána===
*[[Mórés Rómání]]
*[[Roman Virtues|Virtútés Rómánæ]]
*[[LA:Lingua Latina|Lingua Latína]]
*[[:Category:Bibliotheca|Caménæum]] – Litteræ et Artés

===Forum===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/forum/ Forum Rómánum]
*[http://www.insulaumbra.com/academiathules/ Académía Thúlés]
*[[Macellum (Nova Roma)|Macellum]]
*[[Interview the Expert|Perítum Cónsule]]
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<div align="center">'''[[Current events|Omnia Facta...]] - [http://www.novaroma.org/bin/calendar/cal Fastí Interactíví]'''</div>
|}

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* [[FAQ|Frequenter Allátæ Quæstiónés]]
* [[Choosing a Roman name| Quómodó sit Nómen Éligendum]]
* '''[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/apply Cívitátem Postulá]'''
* [[New citizen first steps|Cívibus Novís]] ''Quid nunc faciam?''
* [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/ Forum électronicum] – Intrá
}}

{{MainPageBox | title=WIKI NOVÆ RÓMÆ | content=
''Quirítés! Hoc wiki émendáre potestis!''

* Cívis esse debés: [http://www.novaroma.org/bin/apply Cívitátem postula]
* Persónam Wiki creá: [[Special:Userlogin | In tabúlás té refer]]
* Vidé [[NovaRoma:Community Portal|Portam Cívitátis]] ut cónsilia legás

[[NovaRoma:Admin Requests|Scríbe]] [[NovaRoma:WikiMagisters|WikiMagistrís]] sí quid vís.
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2006-07-05T00:33:01Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: Citizens in Latin is Civites

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===Res Publica ''(the Republic)''===
*[[Nova Roma]] - What is ''Nova Roma''? - [[FAQ]]
*[[:Category:Tabularium (Nova Roma)|Tabularium]] - Laws, Edicts, Constitution
*[[:Category:Magistrates (Nova Roma)|Magistrates]] and [[:Category:Senators (Nova Roma)|Senators]]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/provinciae Provinciae] and [[Provinciae Aranearia (Nova_Roma)|Provincial Websites]]
*[[Annals (Nova Roma) | Annals of Nova Roma]] - our history
*[[Ager Publicus (Nova Roma)|Ager Publicus]] - our land

===Religio Romana ''(Roman Religion)''===
*[[:Category:Religio Romana (Nova Roma)|Religio Romana]]
*[[Priests (Nova Roma)|Priests and Priesthoods]]
*[[:Category:Ritus (Nova Roma)|Rites and Rituals]]
*[[Roman Calendar]]
*[[Comitia Curiata (Nova Roma)|Comitia Curiata]]

===Civites ''(Citizens)''===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gentes Album Gentium] - list of gentes and citizens
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gallery Pinacotheca (Photo Gallery) ]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/reenactments/ Campus Martius (reenactments)]
*[[Sodalitates (Nova Roma)|Sodalitates]] - Special Interest Groups

===Via Romana ''(the Roman Way)''===
*[[Via Romana]]
*[[Roman Virtues]]
*[[Lingua Latina]] - the Latin Language
*[[:Category:Bibliotheca|Camenaeum]] - Literature and Art

===Forum ''(communication, marketplace)''===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/forum/ Community Forum]
*[http://www.insulaumbra.com/academiathules/ Academia Thules] - our first University
*[[Macellum (Nova Roma)|Macellum]] - Marketplace
*[[Interview the Expert]]
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{{Current Events Shortlist}}
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{{MainPageBox | title=BECOMING A CITIZEN | content=
* [[FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]]
* [[Choosing a Roman name]]
* '''[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/apply Apply for Membership]'''
* [[New citizen first steps|For New Citizens]] ''now what do I do?''
* [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/ Nova Roma Mailing List] - join our email discussion list
}}

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''Citizens of Nova Roma - You can edit this site!''

* You must be a Citizen of [[Nova Roma]]: [http://www.novaroma.org/bin/apply Apply]
* Create a Wiki user account: [[Special:Userlogin | Register Here]]
* Visit our [[NovaRoma:Community Portal|Community Portal]] for editing guidelines

[[NovaRoma:Admin Requests|Contact]] the [[NovaRoma:WikiMagisters|WikiMagisters]] if you have any requests.
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LA:Pagina Prima

2006-07-05T00:26:41Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: A few more

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===Rés Publica===
*[[Nova Roma|Nova Róma]] – Quid sit <i>Nova Róma</i> - [[FAQ]]
*[[:Category:Tabularium (Nova Roma)|Tabulárium]] - Légés, Édicta, Cónstitútió
*[[:Category:Magistrates (Nova Roma)|Magistrátús]] [[:Category:Senators (Nova Roma)|Senátórés]]que
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/provinciae Próvinciae] eárumque [[Provinciae Aranearia (Nova_Roma)|Páginae électronicae]]
*[[Annals (Nova Roma) | Rómae Novae Annálés]] – gesta nostra
*[[Ager Publicus (Nova Roma)|Ager Publicus]]

===Religió Rómána===
*[[:Category:Religio Romana (Nova Roma)|Religió Rómána]]
*[[Priests (Nova Roma)|Sacerdótés et Sacerdótia]]
*[[:Category:Ritus (Nova Roma)|Ritús Sacraque]]
*[[Roman Calendar|Fastí]]
*[[Comitia Curiata (Nova Roma)|Comitia Cúriáta]]

===Cívés===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gentes Album Gentium]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gallery Pinacothéca]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/reenactments/ Campus Mártius (exercitátiónés mílitárés)]
*[[Sodalitates (Nova Roma)|Sodálitátés]]

===Mós Rómána===
*[[Mórés Rómání]]
*[[Roman Virtues|Virtútés Rómánæ]]
*[[LA:Lingua Latina|Lingua Latína]]
*[[:Category:Bibliotheca|Caménæum]] – Litteræ et Artés

===Forum===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/forum/ Forum Rómánum]
*[http://www.insulaumbra.com/academiathules/ Académía Thúlés]
*[[Macellum (Nova Roma)|Macellum]]
*[[Interview the Expert|Perítum Cónsule]]
}}
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|-
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{{Nuntii Breves}}
<div align="center">'''[[Current events|Omnia Facta...]] - [http://www.novaroma.org/bin/calendar/cal Fastí Interactíví]'''</div>
|}

{{MainPageBox | title=POSTULÁTIÓ CÍVITÁTIS | content=
* [[FAQ|Frequenter Allátæ Quæstiónés]]
* [[Choosing a Roman name| Quómodó sit Nómen Éligendum]]
* '''[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/apply Cívitátem Postulá]'''
* [[New citizen first steps|Cívibus Novís]] ''Quid nunc faciam?''
* [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/ Forum électronicum] – Intrá
}}

{{MainPageBox | title=WIKI RÓMAE NOVAE | content=
''Quirítés! Hoc wiki émendáre potes!''

* Cívis esse debés: [http://www.novaroma.org/bin/apply Cívitátem postula]
* Persónam Wiki fac: [[Special:Userlogin | In tabúlás té refer]]
* Vidé [[NovaRoma:Community Portal|Ostium Cívitátis]] ut cónsilia legás

[[NovaRoma:Admin Requests|Scríbe]] [[NovaRoma:WikiMagisters|WikiMagistrís]] sí quid vís.
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LA:Pagina Prima

2006-07-05T00:25:32Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: Sundry improvements

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===Rés Publica===
*[[Nova Roma|Nova Róma]] – Quid sit <i>Nova Róma</i> - [[FAQ]]
*[[:Category:Tabularium (Nova Roma)|Tabulárium]] - Légés, Édicta, Cónstitútió
*[[:Category:Magistrates (Nova Roma)|Magistrátús]] [[:Category:Senators (Nova Roma)|Senátórés]]que
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/provinciae Próvinciae] eárumque [[Provinciae Aranearia (Nova_Roma)|Páginae électronicae]]
*[[Annals (Nova Roma) | Rómae Novae Annálés]] – gesta nostra
*[[Ager Publicus (Nova Roma)|Ager Publicus]]

===Religió Rómána===
*[[:Category:Religio Romana (Nova Roma)|Religió Rómána]]
*[[Priests (Nova Roma)|Sacerdótés et Sacerdótia]]
*[[:Category:Ritus (Nova Roma)|Ritús Sacraque]]
*[[Roman Calendar|Fastí]]
*[[Comitia Curiata (Nova Roma)|Comitia Cúriáta]]

===Cívés===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gentes Album Gentium]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gallery Pinacothéca]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/reenactments/ Campus Martius (exercitátiónés mílitarés)]
*[[Sodalitates (Nova Roma)|Sodálitátés]]

===Mós Rómána===
*[[Mórés Rómání]]
*[[Roman Virtues|Virtútés Rómánæ]]
*[[LA:Lingua Latina|Lingua Latína]]
*[[:Category:Bibliotheca|Caménæum]] – Litteræ et Artés

===Forum===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/forum/ Forum Rómánum]
*[http://www.insulaumbra.com/academiathules/ Académía Thúlés]
*[[Macellum (Nova Roma)|Macellum]]
*[[Interview the Expert|Perítum Cónsule]]
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<div align="center">'''[[Current events|Omnia Facta...]] - [http://www.novaroma.org/bin/calendar/cal Fastí Interactíví]'''</div>
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* [[FAQ|Frequenter Allátæ Quæstiónés]]
* [[Choosing a Roman name| Quómodó sit Nómen Éligendum]]
* '''[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/apply Cívitátem Postulá]'''
* [[New citizen first steps|Cívibus Novís]] ''Quid nunc faciam?''
* [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/ Forum électronicum] – Intrá
}}

{{MainPageBox | title=WIKI RÓMAE NOVAE | content=
''Quirítés! Hoc wiki émendáre potes!''

* Cívis esse debés: [http://www.novaroma.org/bin/apply Cívitátem postula]
* Persónam Wiki fac: [[Special:Userlogin | In tabúlás té refer]]
* Vidé [[NovaRoma:Community Portal|Ostium Cívitátis]] ut cónsilia legás

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LA:Pagina Prima

2006-07-05T00:15:45Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: Latin link for Lingua Latina and a couple of typos corrected

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===Rés Pública===
*[[Nova Roma|Nova Róma]] – Quid sit ‘‘Nova Róma’’? - [[FAQ]]
*[[:Category:Tabularium (Nova Roma)|Tabulárium]] - Légés, Édicta, cétera
*[[:Category:Magistrates (Nova Roma)|Magistrátús]] [[:Category:Senators (Nova Roma)|Senátórésque]]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/provinciae Próvinciae] eárumque [[Provinciae Aranearia (Nova_Roma)|Páginae électronicae]]
*[[Annals (Nova Roma) | Rómae Novae Annálés]] – gesta nostra
*[[Ager Publicus (Nova Roma)|Ager Públicus]]

===Religió Rómána===
*[[:Category:Religio Romana (Nova Roma)|Religió Rómána]]
*[[Priests (Nova Roma)|Sacerdótés Públicí]]
*[[:Category:Ritus (Nova Roma)|Ritús Sacrave]]
*[[Roman Calendar|Fastí]]
*[[Comitia Curiata (Nova Roma)|Comitia Cúriáta]]

===Cívés===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gentes Album Gentium]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/view/gallery Pinacothéca]
*[http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/reenactments/ Campus Martius (exercitátiónés mílitarés)]
*[[Sodalitates (Nova Roma)|Sodálitátés]]

===Mós Rómána===
*[[Mós Rómánus]]
*[[Roman Virtues|Virtus Rómána]]
*[[LA:Lingua Latina|Lingua Latína]]
*[[:Category:Bibliotheca|Caménaeum]] – Litterae et Artés

===Forum===
*[http://www.novaroma.org/forum/ Forum Rómánum]
*[http://www.insulaumbra.com/academiathules/ Académía Thúlés]
*[[Macellum (Nova Roma)|Macellum]]
*[[Interview the Expert|Perítus Percontátus]]
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<div align="center">'''[[Current events|Omnia Facta...]] - [http://www.novaroma.org/bin/calendar/cal Fastí Interactíví]'''</div>
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{{MainPageBox | title=POSTULÁTIÓ CÍVITÁTIS | content=
* [[FAQ|Frequenter Adlátae Quaestiónés]]
* [[Choosing a Roman name| Quómodó sit Nómen Éligendum]]
* '''[http://www.novaroma.org/bin/apply Cívitátem Pete]'''
* [[New citizen first steps|Cívibus Novís]] ''quid nunc faciam?''
* [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nova-Roma/ Forum électronicum] – té adiunge
}}

{{MainPageBox | title=WIKI RÓMAE NOVAE | content=
''Quirítés! Hoc wiki émendáre potés!''

* Cívis esse debés: [http://www.novaroma.org/bin/apply Cívitátem pete]
* Persónam Wiki fac: [[Special:Userlogin | In tabúlás té refer]]
* Vidé [[NovaRoma:Community Portal|Ostium Cívitátis]] ut cónsilia legás

[[NovaRoma:Admin Requests|Scríbe]] [[NovaRoma:WikiMagisters|WikiMagistrís]] sí aliquid vís.
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2006-07-05T00:12:31Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: Quick transfer of the text from the main site, without the links

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La <b>langue latine</b> est la langue de la Rome antique. C'est le véhicule le plus adapté et le plus authentique pour exprimer la culture romaine, pour avoir accès à sa littérature, à ses idées et à ses écoles de pensée, se familiariser avec sa morale et ses vertus, non seulement pour comprendre mais aussi adopter dans sa vie privée une façon de voir et de vivre le monde. C'est aussi la langue liturgique des rites religieux romains. Nova Roma témoigne de cette importance du latin dans sa terminologie officielle : les différentes magistratures, les noms de ses lois et décrets, le nom des vertus romaines sont exprimés en latin. Car l'un des buts de Nova Roma est de promouvoir la langue latine et sa renaissance dans tous les aspects de la vie quotidienne de ses citoyens.

<b>Apprendre le latin</b>

Nombreux sont les contemporains qui n'ont pas eu de contact avec le latin dans leur éducation. Les autres l'auront détesté, oublié, ou, dans le pire des cas, les deux à la fois.

:Il est certain qu'on ne peut rien apprendre sans <b>motivation</b>, et les adolescents qui subissent l'étude du latin se voient trop peu souvent expliquer l'intérêt de son étude. Le latin est devenu largement obsolète au sein de l'église catholique depuis le concile de Vatican II et son usage n'impressionne plus personne, grâce aux dieux. Les professeurs de latin, quant à eux, témoignent d'une certaine hésitation à promouvoir des valeurs qu'ils peuvent estimer dépassées et qui pourraient pourtant inciter à l'étude de cette langue.

:D'autre part les <b>méthodes</b> d'apprentissage sont si austères que c'est miracle que certain(e)s aient encore envie d'apprendre le latin. Les enseignants ont été tellement conditionnés à ne considérer le latin que comme langue morte qu'ils ont amenés leurs élèves eux-mêmes à oublier que, comme toute langue, le latin peut s'apprendre facilement et avec plaisir, notamment en l'écoutant et le parlant.

C'est de cette façon que le latin est enseigné, en lien avec Nova Roma, par l'Academia Thules, et ceci par des professeurs expérimentés à des étudiants motivés. Chaque citoyen de Nova Roma est, naturellement, invité à suivre les cours de l'Academia.

On peut trouver d'autres ressources internet sur le latin :

Latin1, ressources fabuleuses pour le débutant

Latin Background Studies, études et essais originaux sur le latin par William Harris.

About network search for "Latin"

CSB/SJU Latin Language and Literature, des Bibliothèques Alcuin et Clemens .

La Fundatio Melissa, est à citer, ainsi qu'à Bruxelles également la Schola Nova, école indépendante qui enseigne le latin dès le plus jeune âge. Nova Roma encourage ses citoyens les plus actifs à fonder de semblables établissements.

<b>Parler latin</b>

Le latin était la langue vivante de nos ancêtres romains. Comme toute langue, elle peut être apprise de façon ludique et pratiquée dans les situations de la vie courante. Nova Roma veut ainsi encourager la pratique du latin parmi ses citoyens.

Il existe, au sein de Nova Roma, une "sodalitas" dédiée à cette promotion : la Sodalitas "Latinitas".

Il est possible de trouver d'autres moyens, sur internet, de mettre son latin en pratique :

Grex Latine Loquentium, la principale liste de discussion électronique en latin, où seul le latin est autorisé, et qui est fréquentée par les meilleurs locuteurs du monde entier.

Les Nuntii Latini, diffusent les informations courantes en latin, à lire ou écouter directement.

LaSocietas Circulorum Latinorum est une fédération internationale de cercles latins formés par des gens qui se rencontrent localement pour pratiquer la langue. Tout citoyen de Nova Roma y est le bienvenu. Tous niveaux sont acceptés. Nova Roma encourage naturellement vivement ses citoyens à vivre cette expérience.

Il existe de nombreux séminaires d'été en latin. LesSeptimanæ Latinæ Europææ, par exemple, comprennent à leur programme cuisine et festivités latines. Une liste très complète de tels séminaires de par le monde, actualisée chaque année, peut être consultée dans les pages de l'association LVPA.

See [[:Category:Lingua Latina]]

LA:Lingua Latina

2006-07-05T00:09:25Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: Bold "Latina lingua"

{{LanguageBar|Lingua Latina}}

<b>Latina lingua</b> tria jam annorum milia stat germanissima vox humani cultús nostri, fuit enim non sólum Romanorum nostrorum lingua majorum, sicut Plauti Terentique, Ciceronis Vergilive, Senecæ ac Plini, vel etiam Stati cum Quintiliano, Martialis et Taciti, Suetoni Gellique, posteaque Ausoni et Claudiani, Ammiani Marcellini, Ambrosi et Augustini; verum etiam per scriptores sicut Boethium et Cassiodorum, Gregorium Turonensem et Hispalensem Isidorum, lingua Latina superstes denique restitit Romani Imperi occasui.

Romana enim lingua per totam Ætatem Mediam viva viguit, lingua juris, philosophiæ theologiæque, culmine Thoma Aquinate, surrexitque viribus renovatis per Renascentiam, mirificé florentibus artibus scientiisque, communicationis vehiculum inter omnes gentes terrarum, luminaribus tam variis quam Batavo Erasmo, Polono Copernico, Gallo Cartesio, Anglo Newtono, Germano Leibnizio, Sueto Linnæo, communi nostrá linguá conjunctis cunctis Latiná.

Divitiis tamen perennis nostri cultús neglectis nunc temporis multi ob novissimorum duorum sæculorum turbulentas res gestas angustaque placita radicibus suís orbati, locique sui in hominum memoriá ignari, putant linguam Latinam mortuam esse cum ultimis Romanis. Quem errorem corrigere atque societati nostræ culturale ipsius patrimonium restituere propositum est Scholæ Latínæ Úniversális.

<b>Dé linguá Latíná discendá</b>

Ut supra declaravimus, hominum major majorque numerus nunc temporis omni linguæ Latinæ notitiá per institutionem suam caruerunt; atque eorum qui linguæ Latinæ antehac studuerunt plerique eam denique oderunt, obliti sunt ejus aut utrumque. Hoc nemo potest stupere, neque nos perducere deberet ad falsas conclusiones.

:Primum omnium, nihil disci potest sine <b>momento</b>, atque adulescentes qui solent linguæ Latinæ studio submitti raro curatur ut talis incepti propositum sentiant. Post linguam Latinam, etiam intra ecclesiam catholicam, unum ex ultimis Latinitatis propugnaculis, de medio sublatam magistri professoresque linguæ Latinæ, qui in morali limbo atque ignorantiá levitateque nostrum temporum fluctuare solent quique nimis sunt animi pusilli ut erga ullam virtutum descriptionem aperté ostendant favorem quibus implicentur quæque discipulos ad linguam possint allicere, neque excitari ipsi valent neque discipulos excitare ut in thesauros incumbant culturalis nostri patrimoni.

:Secundo, didactica <b>methodologia</b> fit tam innecessario arida ut mirum sit si quis omnino aliquid discat. Magistri tam instituti sunt —ac discipulos suos instituunt— linguam Latinam mortuam haberi ut nemo eorum potius animadvertat linguarum discendarum hominibus insitam esse facultatem quæ prorsus naturalis esse deberet ac facilis dummodo naturali ratione lingua doceretur, id est activo modo in usu posita, auscultando atque loquendo, sicut omnes aliæ linguæ quas homines solent quidem discere. Contumaciter perstant conari linguam Latinam docere contra omnem naturalem linguarum disciplinam irritique nec mirum evadunt.

Lingua Latina potest disci jucundiore efficacioreque modo, atque ita docetur NOVÆ ROMÆ in [http://www.academiathules.org/ Academiá Thules] a cupidis docendi expertisque magistris, quicumque discere velit. Discendi studiosi omnes vehementer invitantur ut cursibus se subscribant.

Alia instrumenta linguæ Latinæ discendæ quæ reperiri possunt per Internet hæc sunt:

Latin1, magnifica subsidia incipientibus linguæ Latinæ studentibus.
[http://community.middlebury.edu/~harris/SubIndex/latinbackg.html Latin Background Studies], tractatús archetypi atque prælectiones de linguá Latiná a William Harris conscriptæ.
[http://search.about.com/fullsearch.htm?terms=latin&IAM=URL_latin Eventús inquisitionis "Latin" in reti About]
[http://library.csbsju.edu/rqs.phtml?subject_id=20 CSB/SJU CSB/SJU Latin Language and Literature], lingua litteræque Latinæ ab <i>Alcuin and Clemens Libraries</i>.

Extra virtualem harenam, lingua Latina docetur etiam pluribus locis; sed, ut diximus, sæpe modo magnopere arido. Scitu dignæ exceptiones sunt [http://users.skynet.be/Melissalatina/ Fundatio Melissa], Bruxellis, et [http://www.scholanova.be/ Schola Nova], schola Batavica sui juris ubi discipuli docentur lingua Latina a pueribus.

<b>Dé úsú linguæ Latínæ</b>

Sicut diximus, plerique putant linguam Latinam mortuam esse, tam mortuam quam cultum ab eá traditum, tam mortuam quam nostram propriam civilitatem; attamen major majorque numerus nostrum scimus hoc non esse necessarium, nec quantum ad cultum et civilitatem nec quantum ad linguam quá genuino modo constant. Lingua Latina, viva majorum nostrorum lingua Romanorum, viva mansit nostrí cultús lingua per sæcula. Lingua est sicut omnes aliæ, quæ possit jucundé disci quaque possimus loqui in omnibus occasionibus vitæ cottidianæ.

Alii modi exercendæ linguæ Latinæ possunt quoque per Internet reperiri:

[http://www.alcuinus.net/GLL/ Grex Latine Loquentium], maximus index cursús electronici quantum ad vivam linguam Latinam pertinet, ubi uná linguá licet úti Latiná, et possunt legi optimi Latiné loquentes totius orbis, ac commercium epistolare cum eis haberi.

[http://www.yleradio1.fi/nuntii/ Nuntii Latini], rerum gestarum novissimæ Latiné nuntiatæ, quæ possunt legi vel etiam ilico auscultari.

[http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/ Ephemeris], periodicum in lineá, totum Latiné conscriptum multasque sectiones continens.

Extra virtualem harenam, [http://avitus.alcuinus.net/scl/ Societas Circulorum Latinorum] est internationalis fœderatio circulorum quibus homines in urbibus quique suís sine nimiá sollemnitate congregantur ut Latiné colloquantur. Omnes grato animo invitantur ut adsint sibi proximo Circulo Latino —sive ut novum condant si prope se nullus inveniatur— atque hortamur omnes ut ita faciant ut majorum nostrorum linguam cum hominibus loquendi peritis exerceant. Omnes facultatis gradús accipiuntur.

Sunt etiam multa seminaria æstiva in quibus tantum lingua Latina adhibetur in sermone. Index satis plenus hoc genus seminariorum per totum orbem terrarum habendorum, qui quotannis renovatur, potest inveniri in paginis societatis [http://www.lvpa.de/html/latinus.htm LVPA].

See [[:Category:Lingua Latina]]

Latin language

2006-07-05T00:08:24Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: Transfered the information from the main site

{{LanguageBar|Lingua Latina}}

The <b>Lingua Latina</b> is the language of Rome. It is the most apt and only authentic vehicle to fully express the Roman culture, to gain access to her literature, her ideas and philosophies, to immerse oneself in her ethics and virtues, to not only understand but also intimately adopt and perfectly embody her complete world-view and way of life; it is also the only language in which the Roman religious rites can be duly performed. NOVA ROMA shows the essential importance of this language in all its terminology; the different positions of government, the official names of the laws and decrees, the names of the virtues are all expressed in Latin. It is one of the the goals of NOVA ROMA to promote the Lingua Latina and its revival in all circumstances of life among its citizens.

<b>Learning Latin</b>

A greater number of people nowadays have had no previous contact with the Latin language during their education; but, of those who have had Latin as a subject before, most have ended up hating it, forgetting it, or both. This is no surprise, and shouldn't lead us to the wrong conclusions.

:First of all, nothing can possibly be learnt without <b>motivation</b>, and the adolescents that are normally subjected to the study of Latin are rarely properly explained the purpose of it all. Its now obsolete value within the catholic church —which has practically disappeared after the II Vatican Council— doesn't impress them anymore, thank the gods; and their teachers, who float in the moral limbo of our times, are too pusillanimous to show overt support for any engaging set of ideals, pagan or otherwise, that might attract the students to the language.

:Secondly, the teaching <b>methodology</b> is made so unnecessarily dry that it is a miracle if anyone actually does learn anything at all. The teachers have been so conditioned —and condition their students— to consider Latin a dead language that none of them can actually realise that language learning is an innate capacity of humans that should be ever so natural and easy if only the language was taught the natural way, that is by actively using it, through listening to it and speaking it, as all other languages that people normally do learn. They stubbornly try to teach the Latin language against the grain of any natural language learning, and they obviously fail.

The Latin language can be learnt in a more pleasant and efficient manner, and it is officially taught this way in NOVA ROMA at the [http://www.academiathules.org/ Academia Thules] by well experienced teachers to motivated students. Every citizen is most encouraged to join a course.

Some other Latin learning resources on the Internet are:

Latin1, fabulous resources for beginning Latin students.
[http://community.middlebury.edu/~harris/SubIndex/latinbackg.html Latin Background Studies], original studies and background essays on the Latin language by William Harris.
[http://search.about.com/fullsearch.htm?terms=latin&IAM=URL_latin About network search for "Latin"]
[http://library.csbsju.edu/rqs.phtml?subject_id=20 CSB/SJU Latin Language and Literature], from the Alcuin and Clemens Libraries.

In the real world, Latin is taught in many places; but, as we said, normally in an extremely dry fashion. Remarkable exceptions are the [http://users.skynet.be/Melissalatina/ Fundatio Melissa], in Brussels, and the [http://www.scholanova.be/ Schola Nova], an independent Belgian school where Latin is taught to the pupils from an early age. NOVA ROMA encourages its more affluent citizens to found similar schools for NOVA ROMA citizens.

<b>Using Latin</b>

As we said, most people think that Latin is a dead language, as dead as the Roman virtues or the culture it conveyed; but we know it doesn't have to be like that, not for the virtues, not for the culture, not for the language. Latin was the living language of our Roman forefathers, and it is a language like all others, that can be learnt in a leisurely way and spoken in all situations of everyday life. NOVA ROMA wants progressively but seriously to promote this usage of Latin among its citizens.

There is a Sodalitas consecrated to the promotion of Latin in NOVA ROMA, the [http://www.novaroma.org/wiki/Sodalitates_%28Nova_Roma%29#Sodalitas_Latinitatis Sodalitas "Latinitas"].

The citizen of NOVA ROMA can also find other ways of putting Latin into practice through the Internet:

[http://www.alcuinus.net/GLL/ Grex Latine Loquentium], the greatest e-mail list for living Latin, where Latin is the only language allowed, and one can read the best Latin speakers the world over, and exchange messages with them.

[http://www.yleradio1.fi/nuntii/ Nuntii Latini], current news in Latin, that can be read or even directly listened to.

[http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/ Ephemeris], online news, completely written in Latin and including numerous sections.

In the real world, the [http://avitus.alcuinus.net/scl/ Societas Circulorum Latinorum] is a worldwide federation of Latin Circles, informal gatherings of people who meet locally to speak the language. One of the founders of the society has reassured us that everyone is welcome to join their local group —or found one if there is no one close enough— and NOVA ROMA officially encourages all her citizens to do so in order to practice the language of our forefathers with experienced people. All levels are accepted. Please contact the society to find out about your closest Latin Circle.

There are also loads of summer seminars where Latin is the only language spoken. The [http://www.maierphil.de/SeptLat/ Septimanæ Latinæ Europææ], for instance, include Roman cooking and feasting. A very complete list of such seminars all over the world, updated every year, can be found in the pages of the association [http://www.lvpa.de/html/latinus.htm LVPA].

NOVA ROMA citizens, as the rightful depositaries of the Roman culture, are most welcome and encouraged to attend such circles and seminars.

See [[:Category:Lingua Latina]]

LA:Lingua Latina

2006-07-05T00:08:00Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: Latin version (with minor differences soon to be corrected) of the English Lingua Latina page taken from the main site

{{LanguageBar|Lingua Latina}}

Latina lingua tria jam annorum milia stat germanissima vox humani cultús nostri, fuit enim non sólum Romanorum nostrorum lingua majorum, sicut Plauti Terentique, Ciceronis Vergilive, Senecæ ac Plini, vel etiam Stati cum Quintiliano, Martialis et Taciti, Suetoni Gellique, posteaque Ausoni et Claudiani, Ammiani Marcellini, Ambrosi et Augustini; verum etiam per scriptores sicut Boethium et Cassiodorum, Gregorium Turonensem et Hispalensem Isidorum, lingua Latina superstes denique restitit Romani Imperi occasui.

Romana enim lingua per totam Ætatem Mediam viva viguit, lingua juris, philosophiæ theologiæque, culmine Thoma Aquinate, surrexitque viribus renovatis per Renascentiam, mirificé florentibus artibus scientiisque, communicationis vehiculum inter omnes gentes terrarum, luminaribus tam variis quam Batavo Erasmo, Polono Copernico, Gallo Cartesio, Anglo Newtono, Germano Leibnizio, Sueto Linnæo, communi nostrá linguá conjunctis cunctis Latiná.

Divitiis tamen perennis nostri cultús neglectis nunc temporis multi ob novissimorum duorum sæculorum turbulentas res gestas angustaque placita radicibus suís orbati, locique sui in hominum memoriá ignari, putant linguam Latinam mortuam esse cum ultimis Romanis. Quem errorem corrigere atque societati nostræ culturale ipsius patrimonium restituere propositum est Scholæ Latínæ Úniversális.

<b>Dé linguá Latíná discendá</b>

Ut supra declaravimus, hominum major majorque numerus nunc temporis omni linguæ Latinæ notitiá per institutionem suam caruerunt; atque eorum qui linguæ Latinæ antehac studuerunt plerique eam denique oderunt, obliti sunt ejus aut utrumque. Hoc nemo potest stupere, neque nos perducere deberet ad falsas conclusiones.

:Primum omnium, nihil disci potest sine <b>momento</b>, atque adulescentes qui solent linguæ Latinæ studio submitti raro curatur ut talis incepti propositum sentiant. Post linguam Latinam, etiam intra ecclesiam catholicam, unum ex ultimis Latinitatis propugnaculis, de medio sublatam magistri professoresque linguæ Latinæ, qui in morali limbo atque ignorantiá levitateque nostrum temporum fluctuare solent quique nimis sunt animi pusilli ut erga ullam virtutum descriptionem aperté ostendant favorem quibus implicentur quæque discipulos ad linguam possint allicere, neque excitari ipsi valent neque discipulos excitare ut in thesauros incumbant culturalis nostri patrimoni.

:Secundo, didactica <b>methodologia</b> fit tam innecessario arida ut mirum sit si quis omnino aliquid discat. Magistri tam instituti sunt —ac discipulos suos instituunt— linguam Latinam mortuam haberi ut nemo eorum potius animadvertat linguarum discendarum hominibus insitam esse facultatem quæ prorsus naturalis esse deberet ac facilis dummodo naturali ratione lingua doceretur, id est activo modo in usu posita, auscultando atque loquendo, sicut omnes aliæ linguæ quas homines solent quidem discere. Contumaciter perstant conari linguam Latinam docere contra omnem naturalem linguarum disciplinam irritique nec mirum evadunt.

Lingua Latina potest disci jucundiore efficacioreque modo, atque ita docetur NOVÆ ROMÆ in [http://www.academiathules.org/ Academiá Thules] a cupidis docendi expertisque magistris, quicumque discere velit. Discendi studiosi omnes vehementer invitantur ut cursibus se subscribant.

Alia instrumenta linguæ Latinæ discendæ quæ reperiri possunt per Internet hæc sunt:

Latin1, magnifica subsidia incipientibus linguæ Latinæ studentibus.
[http://community.middlebury.edu/~harris/SubIndex/latinbackg.html Latin Background Studies], tractatús archetypi atque prælectiones de linguá Latiná a William Harris conscriptæ.
[http://search.about.com/fullsearch.htm?terms=latin&IAM=URL_latin Eventús inquisitionis "Latin" in reti About]
[http://library.csbsju.edu/rqs.phtml?subject_id=20 CSB/SJU CSB/SJU Latin Language and Literature], lingua litteræque Latinæ ab <i>Alcuin and Clemens Libraries</i>.

Extra virtualem harenam, lingua Latina docetur etiam pluribus locis; sed, ut diximus, sæpe modo magnopere arido. Scitu dignæ exceptiones sunt [http://users.skynet.be/Melissalatina/ Fundatio Melissa], Bruxellis, et [http://www.scholanova.be/ Schola Nova], schola Batavica sui juris ubi discipuli docentur lingua Latina a pueribus.

<b>Dé úsú linguæ Latínæ</b>

Sicut diximus, plerique putant linguam Latinam mortuam esse, tam mortuam quam cultum ab eá traditum, tam mortuam quam nostram propriam civilitatem; attamen major majorque numerus nostrum scimus hoc non esse necessarium, nec quantum ad cultum et civilitatem nec quantum ad linguam quá genuino modo constant. Lingua Latina, viva majorum nostrorum lingua Romanorum, viva mansit nostrí cultús lingua per sæcula. Lingua est sicut omnes aliæ, quæ possit jucundé disci quaque possimus loqui in omnibus occasionibus vitæ cottidianæ.

Alii modi exercendæ linguæ Latinæ possunt quoque per Internet reperiri:

[http://www.alcuinus.net/GLL/ Grex Latine Loquentium], maximus index cursús electronici quantum ad vivam linguam Latinam pertinet, ubi uná linguá licet úti Latiná, et possunt legi optimi Latiné loquentes totius orbis, ac commercium epistolare cum eis haberi.

[http://www.yleradio1.fi/nuntii/ Nuntii Latini], rerum gestarum novissimæ Latiné nuntiatæ, quæ possunt legi vel etiam ilico auscultari.

[http://ephemeris.alcuinus.net/ Ephemeris], periodicum in lineá, totum Latiné conscriptum multasque sectiones continens.

Extra virtualem harenam, [http://avitus.alcuinus.net/scl/ Societas Circulorum Latinorum] est internationalis fœderatio circulorum quibus homines in urbibus quique suís sine nimiá sollemnitate congregantur ut Latiné colloquantur. Omnes grato animo invitantur ut adsint sibi proximo Circulo Latino —sive ut novum condant si prope se nullus inveniatur— atque hortamur omnes ut ita faciant ut majorum nostrorum linguam cum hominibus loquendi peritis exerceant. Omnes facultatis gradús accipiuntur.

Sunt etiam multa seminaria æstiva in quibus tantum lingua Latina adhibetur in sermone. Index satis plenus hoc genus seminariorum per totum orbem terrarum habendorum, qui quotannis renovatur, potest inveniri in paginis societatis [http://www.lvpa.de/html/latinus.htm LVPA].

See [[:Category:Lingua Latina]]

Latin language

2006-07-04T23:52:34Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus: Transfered the information from the main site

{{LanguageBar|Lingua Latina}}

The <b>Lingua Latina</b> is the language of Rome. It is the most apt and only authentic vehicle to fully express the Roman culture, to gain access to her literature, her ideas and philosophies, to immerse oneself in her ethics and virtues, to not only understand but also intimately adopt and perfectly embody her complete world-view and way of life; it is also the only language in which the Roman religious rites can be duly performed. NOVA ROMA shows the essential importance of this language in all its terminology; the different positions of government, the official names of the laws and decrees, the names of the virtues are all expressed in Latin. It is one of the the goals of NOVA ROMA to promote the Lingua Latina and its revival in all circumstances of life among its citizens.

<b>Learning Latin</b>

A greater number of people nowadays have had no previous contact with the Latin language during their education; but, of those who have had Latin as a subject before, most have ended up hating it, forgetting it, or both. This is no surprise, and shouldn't lead us to the wrong conclusions.

:First of all, nothing can possibly be learnt without <b>motivation</b>, and the adolescents that are normally subjected to the study of Latin are rarely properly explained the purpose of it all. Its now obsolete value within the catholic church —which has practically disappeared after the II Vatican Council— doesn't impress them anymore, thank the gods; and their teachers, who float in the moral limbo of our times, are too pusillanimous to show overt support for any engaging set of ideals, pagan or otherwise, that might attract the students to the language.

:Secondly, the teaching <b>methodology</b> is made so unnecessarily dry that it is a miracle if anyone actually does learn anything at all. The teachers have been so conditioned —and condition their students— to consider Latin a dead language that none of them can actually realise that language learning is an innate capacity of humans that should be ever so natural and easy if only the language was taught the natural way, that is by actively using it, through listening to it and speaking it, as all other languages that people normally do learn. They stubbornly try to teach the Latin language against the grain of any natural language learning, and they obviously fail.

The Latin language can be learnt in a more pleasant and efficient manner, and it is officially taught this way in NOVA ROMA at the [http://www.academiathules.org/ Academia Thules] by well experienced teachers to motivated students. Every citizen is most encouraged to join a course.

Some other Latin learning resources on the Internet are:

Latin1, fabulous resources for beginning Latin students.

[http://community.middlebury.edu/~harris/SubIndex/latinbackg.html Latin Background Studies], original studies and background essays on the Latin language by William Harris.

[http://search.about.com/fullsearch.htm?terms=latin&IAM=URL_latin About network search for "Latin"]

[http://library.csbsju.edu/rqs.phtml?subject_id=20 CSB/SJU Latin Language and Literature], from the Alcuin and Clemens Libraries.

In the real world, Latin is taught in many places; but, as we said, normally in an extremely dry fashion. Remarkable exceptions are the [http://users.skynet.be/Melissalatina/ Fundatio Melissa], in Brussels, and the [http://www.scholanova.be/ Schola Nova], an independent Belgian school where Latin is taught to the pupils from an early age. NOVA ROMA encourages its more affluent citizens to found similar schools for NOVA ROMA citizens.

<b>Using Latin</b>

As we said, most people think that Latin is a dead language, as dead as the Roman virtues or the culture it conveyed; but we know it doesn't have to be like that, not for the virtues, not for the culture, not for the language. Latin was the living language of our Roman forefathers, and it is a language like all others, that can be learnt in a leisurely way and spoken in all situations of everyday life. NOVA ROMA wants progressively but seriously to promote this usage of Latin among its citizens.

There is a Sodalitas consecrated to the promotion of Latin in NOVA ROMA, the [http://www.novaroma.org/wiki/Sodalitates_%28Nova_Roma%29#Sodalitas_Latinitatis Sodalitas "Latinitas"].

The citizen of NOVA ROMA can also find other ways of putting Latin into practice through the Internet:

[http://www.alcuinus.net/GLL/ Grex Latine Loquentium], the greatest e-mail list for living Latin, where Latin is the only language allowed, and one can read the best Latin speakers the world over, and exchange messages with them.

[http://www.yleradio1.fi/nuntii/ Nuntii Latini], current news in Latin, that can be read or even directly listened to.

In the real world, the [http://avitus.alcuinus.net/scl/ Societas Circulorum Latinorum] is a worldwide federation of Latin Circles, informal gatherings of people who meet locally to speak the language. One of the founders of the society has reassured us that everyone is welcome to join their local group —or found one if there is no one close enough— and NOVA ROMA officially encourages all her citizens to do so in order to practice the language of our forefathers with experienced people. All levels are accepted. Please contact the society to find out about your closest Latin Circle.

There are also loads of summer seminars where Latin is the only language spoken. The [http://www.maierphil.de/SeptLat/ Septimanæ Latinæ Europææ], for instance, include Roman cooking and feasting. A very complete list of such seminars all over the world, updated every year, can be found in the pages of the association [http://www.lvpa.de/html/latinus.htm LVPA].

NOVA ROMA citizens, as the rightful depositaries of the Roman culture, are most welcome and encouraged to attend such circles and seminars.

See [[:Category:Lingua Latina]]

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Aulus Gratius Avitus: Reflecting the Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis (see discussion)

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Aulus Gratius Avitus:

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Aulus Gratius Avitus:

==Floating the bar==

Unless some wiki feature breaks it, you can replace
<nowiki><div align="center"></nowiki>
with
<nowiki><div style="margin:auto"> </nowiki>
to avoid using deprecated features. If we then use
<nowiki><div style="margin:auto;clear:both"></nowiki>
we should prevent anything wrapping with this bar. (Or we could use
<nowiki> <br style="clear:both" /> </nowiki>
above and below.) The next step is to eliminate the table entirely and use "float:left" for each cell. You can see the gory details in Template:FourUp where padding and margins are used to make a nice display. The advantage to this is that if they down't fit in the screen width, the elements in the bar will wrap rather than force a horizontal scroll. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|M. Lucretius Agricola]] 10:01, 9 April 2006 (CDT)

==Latin and English==

The <b>Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis</b> (adopted 27 Feb 2002) states that:

<i>
I. Due to the increasingly inter macronational nature of the Citizenship of Nova
Roma, it has become necessary for the official language policy of the Republic
to be defined, in such a way that acknowledges our historical antecedents,
practical concerns, and the sensibilities of all of our Citizens. To that end,
this Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis is adopted.

II. <b>Latin</b> is hereby adopted as the <b>official</b> ceremonial language of Nova Roma. As
such, it shall be used in rites conducted by the curule magistrates and
appointed priests of Nova Roma on behalf of the entire nation, as well as other
circumstances where it may be deemed appropriate.

III. <b>English</b> is hereby adopted as the <b>business language</b> of Nova Roma's central
government. As such, it shall be used in official communications from and
day-to-day business conducted by the central government (defined for purposes of
this proviso as the Senate and non provincial magistrates). Other languages may
be used in such communications where deemed appropriate, but an English
translation must accompany such communications.
</i>

This makes it absolutely clear that there are two languages that have a higher status than all others in Nova Roma, and they are <b>Latin</b>, the glorious language of our forefathers, and <b>English</b>, the most widely spoken language both inside of Nova Roma and outside. It is my firm conviction that it would be absolutely in line both with the letter and the spirit of the Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis to divide the language bar into two: a primary, shorter one, above, including <b>Latin</b> and <b>English</b>, in this order and in some form of highlighted type (bold); and a secondary, longer one, below, including all other languages that may be considered necessary.

Now regarding those other languages, the Lex Cornelia de Linguis Publicis also has something very clear to say:

<i>
IV. In order to accommodate the Needs of Citizens who do not speak English, or
who speak English as a Second Language, and in accordance with section IV 9 of
the Constitution the Decuriae Interpretes is established.

...

4. Interpretes for the <b>five non-English and Latin Languages most widely spoken
in Nova Roma</b> are hereby established. Until such time as the Senate determines
which languages are most widely spoken, The Interpretes will provide
translations of the <b>French, German, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish</b> Languages.

5. The Language that <b>the remaining four</b> Interpretes shall provide <b>shall be
chosen by the Senate of Nova Roma</b>.
</i>

This makes absolutely clear which are the other languages that are to be given a place in the secondary language bar, these are <b>French, German, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish</b>, and <b>four others</b> that shall be
<b>chosen</b> not by any given individual, but <b>by the Senate of Nova Roma</b>.

[[User:Aulus Gratius Garseius Avitus|A. Gratius Avitus]] 18:28, 4 July 2006 (CDT)

==Esperanto==

I'm not sure that including Esperanto really gives us very much. It is not very widely used outside of the sphere of the Romance languages, and we have those covered pretty well. If we are going for completeness, a good case could be made for Finnish. That would probably serve more people. (5 million people at least speak Finnish. 2 million people at most speak Esperanto.) Of course, if we have an Esperanto translator eager and waiting, then by all means we should go ahead.

I know that Esperanto is promoted as a "universal" language, but it is only seen as such by Europeans. For people who do not use the Latin alphabet or do not speak a Romance language it is just another foreign language. It may have simpler syntax than English, but English syntax has not prevented English from becoming the most studied language in the world. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|M. Lucretius Agricola]] 16:59, 25 April 2006 (CDT)

:I think its inclusion should wait until we have a translator appointed; there's no sense in adding lots of links to pages that will never exist. [[User:Marcus Octavius Germanicus|Marcus Octavius Germanicus]][[User talk:Marcus Octavius Germanicus|<sup><font color="green" size="-2">(t)</font></sup>]] 17:18, 25 April 2006 (CDT)

::I agree that it is preposterous to add Esperanto, especially in the context of Nova Roma. We have our own Roman, international language already, and that is of course Latin. Please see above for a discussion of the languages that should appear in the language bars [[User:Aulus Gratius Garseius Avitus|A. Gratius Avitus]] 18:28, 4 July 2006 (CDT)

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2006-07-04T22:58:06Z

Aulus Gratius Avitus:

I suggest we make a policy that the language bar always be the very first item on the page. After all, a chage in language should change ALL the content, but placing content above the language bar seems to imply the the above-the-bar content will be immune from change. [[User:M. Lucretius Agricola|M. Lucretius Agricola]] 10:29, 9 April 2006 (CDT)

:My first thought was the very same. Yet, after looking at how Wikipedia (except the English edition) deals with languages (cf. [http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauptseite German Wikipedia], [http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portada Spanish Wikipedia], etc.), I wonder wether we couldn't put the languages option as a box on the left hand side column, under navigation, search and toolbox. [[User:Aulus Gratius Garseius Avitus|A. Gratius Avitus]] 17:58, 4 July 2006 (CDT)

== Conventus ==

Could we add a link to [[V Conventus Novae Romae]] in the "Current Events" box to encourage people to come? [[User:Aulus Apollonius Cordus|Cordus]] 12:02, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

:Sure; you're an admin, you can just go ahead and do it. The template used for this on the main page is [[Template:Current Events Shortlist]]. [[User:Marcus Octavius Germanicus|Marcus Octavius Germanicus]][[User talk:Marcus Octavius Germanicus|<sup><font color="green" size="-2">(t)</font></sup>]] 14:09, 27 April 2006 (CDT)