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| − | Senate Voting Results
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| − | Senatores present
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| − | C. Aelius Ericius
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| − | M. Cassius Julianus
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| − | P. Cassia
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| − | L. Cornelius Sulla
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| − | L. Equitius Cincinnatus
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| − | Q. Fabius Maximus
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| − | A. Gryllus Graecus
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| − | M. Iunius Iulianus
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| − | T. Labienus Fortunatus
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| − | G. Marius Merullus
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| − | M. Mucius Scaevola Magister
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| − | Proxy
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| − | M. Minucius Audens
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| − | Regrets
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| − | M. Iuncundia Flavia
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| − | F. Vedius Germanicus
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| − | D. Iunius Palladius Invictus
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| − | Item the First.
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| − | Should Alexander Iulius Caesars name be added to the Senate Rolls?
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| − | Vti rogas 8 Negat 3 Abstaino 1
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| − | Item the Second
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| − | That the Rogator be chosen from this list of candidates.
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| − | Lucius Aetius Dalmaticus 11
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| − | Caeso Fabius Quintilianus 0
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| − | Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus 1
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| − | L. Aetius Dalmaticus is chosen.
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| − | Item the Third.
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| − | To form the province of Gallia, and appoint a Praetor to administer it.
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| − | Shall we form the Gallia province?
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| − | Vti rogas 12 Negat 0 Abstanio 0
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| − | Item Passes
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| − | As its Provincial Praetor
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| − | Marcus Maximius Gaius 3
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| − | Ianus Querius Armoricus Lutecio 9
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| − | I. Querius Armoricus Lutecio is chosen
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| − | Item the Forth.
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| − | Combining the governorships of Provincae America
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| − | Austroccidentalis and Medioccidentalis Superior
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| − | into one province with L. Cornelia Aurelia as Praetor.
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| − | Shall we combine the two provinces into one?
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| − | Vti rogas 1 Negat. 9 Abstanio 2
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| − | Item Fails
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| − | If not, shall we move modern Colorado to America Austroccidentalis
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| − | Vti rogas 9 Negat. 1 Abstanio 2
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| − | And make Livia Cornelia Aurelia America Austroccidentalis' Praetor?
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| − | Vti rogas 7 Negat. 3 Abstanio 2
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| − | L. Cornelia Aurelia is chosen.
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| − | [Item the Fifth was for discussion only, no vote. (MOG)]
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| − | Item the Sixth
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| − | Shall we give authority to Aedile Marcus Octavius Germanicus to handle
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| − | Vti rogas 12 Negat. 0 Abstanio 0
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| − | Item the Seventh
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| − | Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova Roma.
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| − | Shall this proposal be accepted to be voted upon by the Comitia?
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| − | Vti rogas 9 Negat. 3 Abstanio 0
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| − | Item the Eighth
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| − | The proposed Edicta Commentary Period of Marcus Iunius Iulianus.
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| − | Is the edicta approved by the Senate?
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| − | Vti rogas 12 Negat. 0 Abstanio 0
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| − | Item the Ninth
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| − | The Senate is asked to order the removal of Porto Claro from Rome's list of
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| − | Shall this be carried out?
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| − | Vti rogas 12 Negat. 0 Abstanio 0
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| − | Item the Tenth.
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| − | That the current provincial map be changed by the Senate to the one at
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| − | Shall this be done?
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| − | Vti rogas 12 Negat. 0 Abstanio 0
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| − | Thank you Conscript Fathers.
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| − | We declare this meeting of the Senate to be over.
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| − | That the current provincial map be changed by the Senate to the one at http: //www.angelfire.com/scifi/nrbras/nr4.htm. It is a more accurate representation of Rome's Provinces.
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| − | == '''Senatvs Consvlta removal of Porto Claro''' ==
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| − | The Senate is asked to order the removal of Porto Claro from Rome's list of recognized micronations.
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| − | Passed, Yes-12; No-0; Abstain-0
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| − | The proposed Edicta Commentary Period of Marcus Iunius Iulianus.
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| − | INTRODUCTORY STATEMENT
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| − | So that the citizens of Nova Roma may have the opportunity to review, contemplate and comment on pending edicts prior to their official issuance within a reasonable amount of time and so as to not hinder the operation of the nation and government by endless debate the following Edicta Commentary Period is established.
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| − | I. Edicts shall be submitted to the Senate and People of Nova Roma in a public forum (i.e. egroups, Nova Roma message board, etc.) simultaneously, for commentary. Said commentary period to begin on the date and time first submitted to said forums and to end forty-eight (48) hours later. Said forty-eight hour period to exclude Dies nefastus and other such instances as the Constitution, Collegium Pontificum and Collegium Augurum shall provide within the laws and Religio Romana of Nova Roma.
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| − | II. This commentary period is strictly for COMMENT by the citizens of Nova Roma. The edict submitted can only be modified by the submitting magistrate at their discretion and need not be changed. It is STRONGLY SUGGESTED that the comments be CONSTRUCTIVE. Please keep in mind that being a part of the solution is infinitely more preferable than being part of the problem.
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| − | Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova Roma.
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| − | I. The Amount
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| − | The amount will be set by the Senate. The Senate will set the due amount on a province by province basis based on information forwarded by the provincial praetors on what their average citizen will be able to pay. If no Praetor is available, a Quaestor will contact those individuals for their input, or they may be given forgiveness if there are too many to contact. The Senate may rise or lower amounts depending on the provincial praetor's reports for that fiscal year. Once amount is set it remains in force for that fiscal year.
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| − | In order to obtain a GNP for the nation of Rome, the citizens will be taxed in the following manners.
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| − | All Roman citizens will be eligible to pay their set amount. Those who wish to be actively involved in Roman Politics, i.e., the holding of magistracies, they must have their due amounts paid so they are in good standing. Citizens of Rome, who do not or cannot pay their due amount still receive protection under Roman law and they are treated the same as the Roman citizens in "good standing" except they may not stand for magistracies. They still may hold religious offices, take part in debates, attend the chatroom, and vote. Citizens may recover their good standing by paying their current owed amount for that fiscal year. There will never be any additional money that must be made up.
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| − | Merchants doing business in Nova Roma's Mecelleum are required to give a percentage from each transaction to the Roman Treasury. This percentage will be set by the Censors at the start of the Roman fiscal year. It can never exceed 10% of the total sale
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| − | The Roman State, (The Consuls & Senate) if in a Financial Crisis, may call on all Senators, Patricians and Magistrates to contribute additional monies to the Treasury in addition to their usual sum. This contribution is entirely voluntary, and failure to meet it will not result in any reduction of status. There may be a drop in stature among their peers, however.
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| − | Donations to the Roman State are welcomed and encouraged. However such donations do not forgive the basic tax which will still have to paid.
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| − | By the start of the month of the Roman Saturnalia (December) will be the end of collection period for the bulk of monies. Citizens may began to pay at the beginning of Sexilis (August). If their amount is not paid by the start of November (the Kalendis Novembribus) from that point on their status in not in good standing, and will so be noted. Citizens that do not remit the amount at the beginning of the period (Sexilis through Novemberes) will have to send their sum directly to the Treasury of Rome. Note that this means that they still must pay the current amount when the time for it falls due.
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| − | There are two ways the citizens may pay. Send to the citizen's Provincial Praetor during the gathering period of the months of Sextilis to Novemberes or with no Praetor available directly to the Roman Treasury during the same period.
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| − | The amount must be in US dollars. Therefore, Non US provinces will have to convert the money into a money order. American Express seems to be the cheapest way to do this, and this is why the Provincial Praetor should be the collector. Once the money has been gathered, this officer can convert these into a single money order to be sent to the Roman Treasury.
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| − | Praetors will authorized to take the conversation charge for the money order from the sum. Praetors will also be authorized to retain 10% of the gathered sum to compensate for their trouble. This will be returned to the province as the Praetor and his staff see fit.
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| − | Non US provincial citizens who have no Praetor to send the amount to will have to send it directly to the Roman Treasury. If the amount is sent during the months Sextilis to Novemberes the citizen will be authorized to take the money order cost from the sum, to encourage timely compliance. If after the period the additional amount must be paid. (Consider it a penalty)
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| − | Combining the governorships of Provincae America Austroccidentalis and Medioccidentalis Superior into one province with L. Cornelia Aurelia as Praetor. Shall we combine the two provinces into one?
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| − | To form the province of Gallia, and appoint a Praetor to administer it. Conscript Fathers if it may please you, the time has come to make France, Belgium & the Netherlands into the Nova Roma province of Gallia. France/Belgium/Netherlands have at least 12 citizens, and several of them are energetic and dedicated historians.
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| − | Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus Appointed to Senate
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| − | As Praetor of Pannonia and staunch organizer of his province, as well as attempting to recruit additional citizens and spread Rome's influence in the East, Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus has proven that he belongs within the ranks of this august body.
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This is a report of a session of the Nova Roma Senate of a.d. V Id. Sept. ‡, Q. Maximo M. Minucio cos. ‡ MMDCCLIII a.u.c..
Senate action for 9 September2752 as posted in the “old Tabularium”
Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Censor 9 August 2761 A.V.C.
SEXTILIS VI LEX (law) AGAINST INTERNET STALKING
Because of repeated "on-line" harassment of former and current Nova Roma citizens, the Senior Consul has researched and drafted a proposed Lex against internet stalking. Shall this, as "lex rogota" (co-operation with the Consul and the People) be put forth to the people of the assembly to be voted into law?
Uti Rogas (YES) 7 ; Antiquo (NO) 3 ; ABSTO (I abstain) 2
Item passed.
PART I
INTERNET STALKING
Most countries have some sort of "Internet Stalking" law.
Definition: There are two terms here. Internet harassment Internet harassment or hard spam is said to occur when unwelcome messages which may be sexual, derogatory, hateful, i.e. any message that causes the recipient to be upset or uncomfortable, are sent to a person by E-mail or Instant Communication.
Internet stalking takes place after the victim requests the harassment to cease and it does not.
" STALKING" occurs when a series of harassment messages are continued to beleft on the victim's e-mail or sent to the victim via instant message (IM) after the victim has told the stalker to stop. The operational word here is "continued." If the messages cease after the victim asks the sender to do so, there is no stalking, only the original harassment, which is usually not considered a crime. (Too many jerks out there to arrest them all.) However, if the messages resume after certain length of time, and the victim again asks that the messages be stopped, and they are not, the victim is again being electronically "stalked." No means no. If the recipient of unwelcome messages, says "no" to any more instant messages of that content, the sender MUST stop sending them. If the recipient says "no" to any more mail contact from the sender, the sender MUST comply with recipient's request. If the sender continues to contact the recipient then the sender is guilty of "stalking."
PROOF OF THE OFFENSE.
On the face of it, documenting the offensive is fairly easy. The victim simply saves the offending message. However an interview with the sender will be necessary to get sense of the sender's personality and to obtain a confession (if the sender is guilty).
PENALTIES
Usually contact by the authorities is enough to stop stalking. Often the offender didn't know it was against the law, etc. If "stalking" continues, once a warning has been made, however, different nations have different penalties. The most common is a fine. This fluctuates between 500.- 2000. dollars for the first offense. The second most common is a short prison sentence. Usually 6 months to 2 years. In extreme cases were the sender is deranged, psychiatric treatment is advised, and the sender may be institutionalized.
PART II
What does this have to do with Nova Roma? Since we are basically an Internet driven organization, we should have a lex in place to limit Internet stalking. If we had, perhaps Dexippus would still be with us. Dexippus had been "stalked" by Michael Marconi almost non stop after Marconi rejoined NR as "Tacitus." He had been receiving e-mails reciting Marconi's salacious descriptions of his supposed behavior. Most (at least the ones Dexippus sent me) ended with: " Get out now, because once we take over, your kind won't be welcome here!" (Christians still baffle the Hades out of me.) Women of Nova Roma have complained to me, and I believe to my Consular Colleague as well about suggestive sexual remarks made by males to them via IM or e-mail. IM seems to be the common vehicle for this type of abuse. When asked to stop, the males continued, forcing the victims to flee off line. Our citizens should not be forced to undergo this type of abuse, Conscript Fathers, there should be some way for Rome to protect its people. Therefore I propose this Lex to act as a deterrent.
PART III - THE ROUGH DRAFT OF THE LEX
I Q. Fabius Maximus submit this draft of an Electronic Stalking Lex, which once approved, will be put before the assembly for acceptance as a Lex of Rome.
The Lex. If a Citizens receives messages by e-mail or instant message from fellow citizens that are of disturbing nature they may ask the sender to stop. If the sender does not stop immediately, he is breaking the law and subject to punishment. Disturbing nature" in this instance is content that makes the recipient uncomfortable. It may be, but not restricted to, messages that are sexual in nature, derogatory, or hateful. PenaltiesConfirmed first time offenders are given a warning. However, the transgression will be noted in that citizen's record by the censors. If a second transgression occurs, punishment is recommended. This can range from anywhere to being expelled from the Nova Roma list for a certain time, to being permanently banished from Nova Roma, for flagrant offenders.
THE INVESTIGATIVE PROCEDURE
Documenting the offense. Victims of "Stalking" must summon the Praetors, and inform them of the offense. This can be done by e-mail, or over the phone. When a recipient is stalked they must save proof for the investigation. This is done though the saving of the offending e-mails, or instant messages. These will be turned over to investigating magistrate via e-mail or FAX. The investigating magistrate will be appointed by the Praetor(s). The investigator can be the Praetor, himself. The investigator will conduct interviews with both parties separately, either through electronic communication or over the telephone. If the magistrate's investigation turns up an infraction of the law, the magistrate will report this back to the Praetor. The Praetor may then review the severity of the transgression to determine punishment.
THE APPEAL
The accused has the right to appeal the Praetor's decision, and request a trial before the committee. If found guilty, the Praetor will determine punishment
Senatvs Consvlta SEXTILIS IV CALL FOR REBUKE OF LUCIA MARIA FIMBRIA
If the former citizen Lucia Maria Fimbria does indeed rejoin Nova Roma, as a former magistrate, his/her conduct was not Roman, nor was it in the spirit of what Nova Roma stands for.
Part 1. Should the Senate publicly post a rebuke condemning the individual Lucia Maria Fimbria for actions carried out against the magistrates of Rome?
Uti Rogas (YES) 8 ; Antiquo (NO) 3 ; ABSTO (I abstain) 1
Item passed.
Part 2. If Part 1 passes, shall our Praetor Urbanii draft a message, to be reviewed by this body, to posted in public condemning the actions of Lucia Maria Fimbria?
Uti Rogas (YES) 8 ; Antiquo (NO) 2 ; ABSTO (I abstain) 2
Item passed.
If Lucia Maria Fimbria does not join, then this will never be carried out, even if approved.
Yes-4 ; No-3
Item passed.
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Oct 27, 2000
Reprimand to Nova Roma Citizen Lucia Maria Fimbria, now known as Lucia
Maria Peregrina
Salvete, Senate Fathers, Magistrates, and Citizens of Nova Roma;
The duly elected Consuls of Nova Roma, having agreed upon this
action,now stand together in Forum to issue the following Reprimand.
This Reprimand was voted by the Senate of Nova Roma, to be drafted by
the Praetors and was then presented to the Senate for a series of
revisions.
This Reprimand is now issued jointly by the Consuls Q. Fabius Maximus,
and Marcus Minucius Audens.
The Senate of Nova Roma firmly condemns the offensive public actions
performed by Citizen Lucia Maria Fimbria. The Senate of Nova Roma
understands that the actions perpetrated by Citizen Lucia Maria Fimbria
could only have the objective of throwing the person and offices of
Lucius Equitius Cinninatus to public ridicule and to affect, in a
negative way, the Auctorius, Dignitas, Fides of all Nova Roma public
institutions.
The actions perpetrated by Citizen Lucia Maria Fimbria were testified by
several Citizens of Nova Roma including members of the Nova Roma Senate,
which consisted of the following:
--Impersonation of a Magistrate and Pontifex; usage of the name
"Cincinnatus" without his consent to impersonate him in a rite of
suicide.
--Negative propaganda; using the Forum Romanum
"http: //pluto.beseen.com/chat/rooms/w/10275
and other independently established lists, chatrooms and message boards
to create sentiments against the goals of Nova Roma and against her
Magistrates among Citizens and Prospective Citizens.
Both Consuls wish to thank Praetor Graecus for his efforts in drawing up
and completing the many revisions to this Reprimand.
Valete, Respectfully;
Q. Fabius Maximus and Marcus Minucius Audens--Consuls
== Senatvs Consvlta
SENATUS CONSULTUM SEXTILIS III ADDITIONS TO THE ROLL OF SENATORS ==
The following individuals have been suggested to the Consuls by various Senators to be allowed to join the Senate. We request upon the individual Senators approval that the Censors add the following illustrious individuals to the roll of Senators.
The Propraetor of Britannia, N. Moravia Vado Yea or Nay
The Propraetor of Germania, M.. Marcius Rex Yea or Nay
The Curule Aedile M. Octavius Germanicus Yea or Nay
N. Moravia Vado---------Uti Rogas (YES) 7 ; Antiquo (NO) 3 ;
ABSTO (I abstain) 2
Marcius Rex--------------Uti Rogas (YES) 8 ; Antiquo (NO) 2 ;
ABSTO (I abstain) 2
M. Octavius Germanicus--Uti Rogas (YES) 10 ; Antiquo (NO) 0 ;
ABSTO (I abstain) 2
ALL ARE ELECTED
Senatvs Consvlta
SENATUS CONSULTUM
Three citizens have stood forward at the forum list and pledged to do this job with impartiality. We ask you now to choose between them, and bring forward the second Rogator.
The first candidate is Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus.
The second candidate is Livia Cornelia Aurelia.
Third candidate has withdrawn.
Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus: 1
Livia Cornelia Aurelia: 11
Livia Cornelia Aurelia ROGATRIX is Elected
