Session XXIIII 09 November 2753

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That the current provincial map be changed by the Senate to the one at http: //www.angelfire.com/scifi/nrbras/nr4.htm. It is a more accurate representation of Rome's Provinces.  
 
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Shall we give authority to Aedile Marcus Octavius Germanicus to handle election computer problems as he sees fit, then report the solution to the Senate?  
 
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Combining the governorships of Provincae America Austroccidentalis and Medioccidentalis Superior into one province with L. Cornelia Aurelia as Praetor. Shall we combine the two provinces into one?  
 
Combining the governorships of Provincae America Austroccidentalis and Medioccidentalis Superior into one province with L. Cornelia Aurelia as Praetor. Shall we combine the two provinces into one?  

Revision as of 02:14, 10 August 2008

This is a report of a session of the Nova Roma Senate of a.d. V Id. Nov. , Q. Maximo M. Minucio cos. MMDCCLIII a.u.c..

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Senate action for 9 November 2752 as posted in the “old Tabularium” Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Censor 9 August 2761 A.V.C.


Senatvs Consvlta Senate Voting Results

Senatores present

  • C. Aelius Ericius
  • M. Cassius Julianus
  • P. Cassia
  • L. Cornelius Sulla
  • L. Equitius Cincinnatus
  • Q. Fabius Maximus
  • A. Gryllus Graecus
  • M. Iunius Iulianus
  • T. Labienus Fortunatus
  • G. Marius Merullus
  • M. Mucius Scaevola Magister Proxy
  • M. Minucius Audens Regrets
  • M. Iuncundia Flavia
  • F. Vedius Germanicus
  • G. Tullius Triumphius Cicero
  • D. Iunius Palladius Invictus

Item the First. Should Alexander Iulius Caesars name be added to the Senate Rolls?

Vti rogas 8 Negat 3 Abstaino 1

Item Passes

Item the Second That the Rogator be chosen from this list of candidates.

Lucius Aetius Dalmaticus 11 Caeso Fabius Quintilianus 0 Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus 1

L. Aetius Dalmaticus is chosen.

Item the Third. To form the province of Gallia, and appoint a Praetor to administer it. Shall we form the Gallia province?

Vti rogas 12 Negat 0 Abstanio 0 Item Passes

As its Provincial Praetor Marcus Maximius Gaius 3 Ianus Querius Armoricus Lutecio 9

I. Querius Armoricus Lutecio is chosen

Item the Forth. Combining the governorships of Provincae America Austroccidentalis and Medioccidentalis Superior into one province with L. Cornelia Aurelia as Praetor. Shall we combine the two provinces into one?

Vti rogas 1 Negat. 9 Abstanio 2 Item Fails

If not, shall we move modern Colorado to America Austroccidentalis Vti rogas 9 Negat. 1 Abstanio 2 Item Passes

And make Livia Cornelia Aurelia America Austroccidentalis' Praetor? Vti rogas 7 Negat. 3 Abstanio 2 L. Cornelia Aurelia is chosen.

[Item the Fifth was for discussion only, no vote. (MOG)]

Item the Sixth Shall we give authority to Aedile Marcus Octavius Germanicus to handle election computer problems as he sees fit, then report the solution to the Senate?

Vti rogas 12 Negat. 0 Abstanio 0 Item Passes

Item the Seventh Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova Roma.

Shall this proposal be accepted to be voted upon by the Comitia? Vti rogas 9 Negat. 3 Abstanio 0 Item Passes

Item the Eighth The proposed Edicta Commentary Period of Marcus Iunius Iulianus. Is the edicta approved by the Senate? Vti rogas 12 Negat. 0 Abstanio 0 Item Passes

Item the Ninth The Senate is asked to order the removal of Porto Claro from Rome's list of recognized micronations.

Shall this be carried out? Vti rogas 12 Negat. 0 Abstanio 0 Item Passes

Item the Tenth. That the current provincial map be changed by the Senate to the one at http: //www.angelfire.com/scifi/nrbras/nr4.htm. Shall this be done? Vti rogas 12 Negat. 0 Abstanio 0 Item Passes.

Thank you Conscript Fathers.

We declare this meeting of the Senate to be over. The Consules


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Senatvs Consvlta Use Provincial Maps of M. Arminius

That the current provincial map be changed by the Senate to the one at http: //www.angelfire.com/scifi/nrbras/nr4.htm. It is a more accurate representation of Rome's Provinces.

Passed, Yes-12; No-0; Abstain-0

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Senatvs Consvlta removal of Porto Claro

The Senate is asked to order the removal of Porto Claro from Rome's list of recognized micronations. Passed, Yes-12; No-0; Abstain-0

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Senatvs Consvlta The proposed Edicta Commentary Period of Marcus Iunius Iulianus. INTRODUCTORY STATEMENT

So that the citizens of Nova Roma may have the opportunity to review, contemplate and comment on pending edicts prior to their official issuance within a reasonable amount of time and so as to not hinder the operation of the nation and government by endless debate the following Edicta Commentary Period is established.

I. Edicts shall be submitted to the Senate and People of Nova Roma in a public forum (i.e. egroups, Nova Roma message board, etc.) simultaneously, for commentary. Said commentary period to begin on the date and time first submitted to said forums and to end forty-eight (48) hours later. Said forty-eight hour period to exclude Dies nefastus and other such instances as the Constitution, Collegium Pontificum and Collegium Augurum shall provide within the laws and Religio Romana of Nova Roma.

II. This commentary period is strictly for COMMENT by the citizens of Nova Roma. The edict submitted can only be modified by the submitting magistrate at their discretion and need not be changed. It is STRONGLY SUGGESTED that the comments be CONSTRUCTIVE. Please keep in mind that being a part of the solution is infinitely more preferable than being part of the problem.

III. Should the submitting magistrate wish to modify their edict, using the feedback from the comments of the citizenry, they may, at their discretion and need not do so. Upon the expiration of the forty-eight hour period the final edict shall be issued pursuant to the Lex Vedia de Ratione Edictum which will then be controlling.

IV. Should the submitting magistrate withdraw their edict prior to the expiration of the commentary period they may do so. The withdrawn edict may be re- submitted and will be considered a "new" matter and the provisions defined herein will begin anew.

V. This Edicta Commentary Period shall have no effect on the Lex Vedia de Ratione Edictum. The edict submitted for comment under these provision is considered "unofficial" and therefore not subject to the Lex Vedia de Ratione Edictum and will only become subject to the provisions thereto upon the expiration of the forty-eight hour commentary period and its subsequent official issuance.

Passed, Yes-12; No-0; Abstain-0

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Senatvs Consvlta Q. Fabius' Tax proposal for the citizens of Nova Roma. I. The Amount The amount will be set by the Senate. The Senate will set the due amount on a province by province basis based on information forwarded by the provincial praetors on what their average citizen will be able to pay. If no Praetor is available, a Quaestor will contact those individuals for their input, or they may be given forgiveness if there are too many to contact. The Senate may rise or lower amounts depending on the provincial praetor's reports for that fiscal year. Once amount is set it remains in force for that fiscal year.

II Requirements: In order to obtain a GNP for the nation of Rome, the citizens will be taxed in the following manners.

A. Citizen Tax: All Roman citizens will be eligible to pay their set amount. Those who wish to be actively involved in Roman Politics, i.e., the holding of magistracies, they must have their due amounts paid so they are in good standing. Citizens of Rome, who do not or cannot pay their due amount still receive protection under Roman law and they are treated the same as the Roman citizens in "good standing" except they may not stand for magistracies. They still may hold religious offices, take part in debates, attend the chatroom, and vote. Citizens may recover their good standing by paying their current owed amount for that fiscal year. There will never be any additional money that must be made up.

B. The Tax on Sales. Merchants doing business in Nova Roma's Mecelleum are required to give a percentage from each transaction to the Roman Treasury. This percentage will be set by the Censors at the start of the Roman fiscal year. It can never exceed 10% of the total sale

C. The Emergency Levy The Roman State, (The Consuls & Senate) if in a Financial Crisis, may call on all Senators, Patricians and Magistrates to contribute additional monies to the Treasury in addition to their usual sum. This contribution is entirely voluntary, and failure to meet it will not result in any reduction of status. There may be a drop in stature among their peers, however.

D. Donations Donations to the Roman State are welcomed and encouraged. However such donations do not forgive the basic tax which will still have to paid.

II. Procedure. By the start of the month of the Roman Saturnalia (December) will be the end of collection period for the bulk of monies. Citizens may began to pay at the beginning of Sexilis (August). If their amount is not paid by the start of November (the Kalendis Novembribus) from that point on their status in not in good standing, and will so be noted. Citizens that do not remit the amount at the beginning of the period (Sexilis through Novemberes) will have to send their sum directly to the Treasury of Rome. Note that this means that they still must pay the current amount when the time for it falls due.

III. Collection There are two ways the citizens may pay. Send to the citizen's Provincial Praetor during the gathering period of the months of Sextilis to Novemberes or with no Praetor available directly to the Roman Treasury during the same period.

The amount must be in US dollars. Therefore, Non US provinces will have to convert the money into a money order. American Express seems to be the cheapest way to do this, and this is why the Provincial Praetor should be the collector. Once the money has been gathered, this officer can convert these into a single money order to be sent to the Roman Treasury.

Praetors will authorized to take the conversation charge for the money order from the sum. Praetors will also be authorized to retain 10% of the gathered sum to compensate for their trouble. This will be returned to the province as the Praetor and his staff see fit.

Non US provincial citizens who have no Praetor to send the amount to will have to send it directly to the Roman Treasury. If the amount is sent during the months Sextilis to Novemberes the citizen will be authorized to take the money order cost from the sum, to encourage timely compliance. If after the period the additional amount must be paid. (Consider it a penalty)

IV. Forgiveness. A. New citizens entering Rome, are forgiven payment (except on sales) for the period of one year. They are considered members in good standing until the year is completed. They then fall under the obligation.

B. Additional Forgiveness There are Provinces that may not be able to pay the decreed amount due to Natural Disasters, Military Coups, etc. Forgiveness may be extended by the Senate to provinces for reasons that would be germane at the time.

C. While all our Provincial Praetors are good people, there is always the chance that temptation will strike and the Praetor not send the money forward, keeping it for himself. If this would happen, those citizens in that province would be given forgiveness for that year. Rome would have to deal with the treacherous Praetor.

In the future Praetors may have to be bonded, but right now the amounts handled are fairly small so no bonding should be needed.

Passed, Yes-9; No-3; Abstain-0

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Senatvs Consvlta Curule Aedile to Handle Election

Shall we give authority to Aedile Marcus Octavius Germanicus to handle election computer problems as he sees fit, then report the solution to the Senate?

Passed, Yes-12; No-0; Abstain-0

11/09/2000





Senatvs Consvlta Propraetor of America Austroccidentalis

Combining the governorships of Provincae America Austroccidentalis and Medioccidentalis Superior into one province with L. Cornelia Aurelia as Praetor. Shall we combine the two provinces into one?

Failed, Yes-1; No-9; Abstain-2

If not, shall we move modern Colorado to America Austroccidentalis

Passed, Yes-9; No-1; Abstain-2

And make Livia Cornelia Aurelia America Austroccidentalis' Praetor?

Passed, Yes-7; No-3; Abstain-2

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Senatvs Consvlta To Form the Province of Gallia

To form the province of Gallia, and appoint a Praetor to administer it. Conscript Fathers if it may please you, the time has come to make France, Belgium & the Netherlands into the Nova Roma province of Gallia. France/Belgium/Netherlands have at least 12 citizens, and several of them are energetic and dedicated historians.

Passed, Yes: 12; No: 0; Abstain: 0

As its Provincial Praetor: Marcus Maximius Gaius: 3 Ianus Querius Armoricus Lutecio: 9

I. Querius Armoricus Lutecio is chosen

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Senatvs Consvlta Election of Rogator The Rogator should be chosen from the list of candidates.

Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus Lucius Aetius Dalmaticus Caeso Fabius Quintilianus


Lucius Aetius Dalmaticus 11 Marcus Scribonius Curio Britannicus 1 Caeso Fabius Quintilianus 0

L. Aetius Dalmaticus is chosen. 11/09/2000



Senatvs Consvlta Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus Appointed to Senate As Praetor of Pannonia and staunch organizer of his province, as well as attempting to recruit additional citizens and spread Rome's influence in the East, Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus has proven that he belongs within the ranks of this august body.

We ask that you confirm him as our choice for Senator.

Respectfully submitted: L. Cornelius Sulla, C. Marius Merullus

Passed, Yes-8; No-3; Abstain-1 11/09/2000

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