Session August 2779
Latest revision as of 10:32, 19 August 2026
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Presiding Magistrate
M. Caecilius Metellus Tocaiensis, Consul
The session was chaired by M. Caecilius Metellus Tocaiensis. The 'Call to Convene' was announced on Kal. Sext. ‡.
Consular Auspices
Cn. Cornelius Lentulus, pontifex, took the auspices for consul M. Caecilius Metellus Tocaiensis in his name, and they were favorable.
Consular Opening and Closing Ceremony
The opening and closing ceremony of rites and sacrifice were made by pontifex Cn. Lentulus in the name of the consul M. Metellus.
Quorum
The senate has 23 voting members registered. In accordance with article XI.E. of the Senatus consultum de ratione senatus MMDCCLXV, no senator is deemed absent as no senator has lodged their pending absence on this forum. As per article I, 2/3 of registered members constitutes a quorum; this is 16 members. With 23 of 23 members accounted for, quorum is achieved. The 23 voting members are:
- D. Aurelius Ingeniarius, consul, presiding magistrate, senator praetorius
- M. Caecilius Metellus Tocaiensis, consul, senator aedilicius
- L. Calpurnius Bestia, praetor
- D. Claudius Aquilinus, praetor
- M. Aurelius Cotta Iovius, censor, senator consularis
- C. Petronius Stephanus Turpilianus, censor, senator consularis
- Fl. Vedius Germanicus, princeps senatus, senator censorius
- Sex. Lucilius Tutor, senator censorius
- Q. Arrius Nauta, decemvir stlitibus iudicandis, senator censorius
- T. Domitius Draco, senator consularis
- C. Cornelius Cethegus Barosus, senator consularis
- P. Aurelius Barbatus, quattuorvir rerum curandarum, senator consularis
- C. Flavius Constantinus Aeneas Stilicho, senator consularis
- M. Hortensia Maior Fabiana Faustina, senatrix praetoria
- P. Porcius Licinus, curator aerarii, senator praetorius
- Ti. Iulius Nerva, quattuorvir rerum curandarum, senator praetorius
- A. Vitellius Celsus, senator aedilicius
- A. Iulius Paterculus, quattuorvir rerum curandarum, senator aedilicius
- Cn. Cornelius Lentulus, triumvir monetalis, princeps iuventutis, senator aedilicius
- M. Octavius Corvus, triumvir monetalis, senator tribunicius
- Ap. Curius Rullus, senator tribunicius
- A. Ocratius Maximus Gittus, tribunus militum comitiatus, senator quaestorius
- Sibylla Fulvia Ambrosia, senatrix privata
The following 5 tribuni plebis who are not senators themselves have the right to attend this meeting of
the Senate and are invited to participate therein:
- Ti. Horatius Barbatus, tribunus plebis
- M. Claudius Marcellus, tribunus plebis
- Q. Caecilius Metellus Macedonicus, tribunus plebis
- Q. Flavius Hugo Capito, tribunus plebis
- C. Valeria Terra, tribuna plebis
Schedule
2145 Rome Time (CET) Kal. Sext. ‡ 2779 AVC (1 Aug 2026) Call to convene. As seen in the time stamp of the post message. 2150 Rome Time (CET) Kal. Sext. ‡ 2779 AVC (1 Aug 2026) Call to order. Debate period commences and lasts until needed. Debate is allowed to continue during voting. 2140 Rome Time (CET) a.d. VII Id. Sext. ‡ 2779 AVC (7 Aug 2026) Call to vote. Debate is allowed to continue during voting. 2140 Rome Time (CET) a.d. IV Id. Sext. ‡ 2779 AVC (10 Aug 2026) Voting period closes. No further voting or discussion is permitted. 0648 Rome Time (CET) a.d. III Id. Sext. ‡ 2779 AVC (11 Aug 2026) Call to close. Call to close made before this time.
Agenda
ITEM I Setting a spending limit on the general permission of the C. Flavius Stilicho's proconsular committee developing Nova Roma Item for vote. ITEM II Clarifying procedural steps of implementing the effects that take place after hearing the provincial reports postponed so far Item for vote. ITEM III Transfering Legio XXIV Media Atlantica from Provincia Noveborancensis et Mediatlantica to Provincia California. Item for vote.
Proposal Results
ITEM I - Senatus consultum de clarificatione Senatus consultum de vestimentis et instrumentis publicis Novae Romae
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 16 (DAI, MCMT, LCB, DCA, MACI, CPST, FlVG, TDD, CCCB, PAB, CFCAS, MHMFF, TiIN, AVC, AIP, CnCL, AOMG)
- Comments:
- DAI: The committee changes are agreeable and the action to review our public finances first is a great approach.
- CnCL: I requested the consul, in private, to table the proposal in its orginal form. Although I didn't change my opinion, I agree that all inquiries of all senators have to be answered thoroughly, and even a praetor demanded this. They must receive all information.
- DCA: I thank Senators Lentulus and Barbatus for their considerable service to Nova Roma. Receiving that comprehensive financial report is definitely a long overdue step in the right direction for transparency and I look forward to see also a detailed proposal regarding the tent & furnishings, including cost estimates and safeguards. A major theme of my previous messages is that we should be able to make an informed decision when voting on huge tax payer funded expenditures, and I appreciate that we will be getting closer to that. Regarding the other topic of extremely expensive tax payer funded togas & tunics, I remain completely unconvinced however that is not in this specific vote.
- FlVG: While I am pleased the text was changed at the last minute, if and when this matter comes up again, I will need a lot of convincing to spend a large percentage of our treasury on reenactment supplies that will only benefit a handful of people and whose concrete benefit to Nova Roma as a whole has not been explained.
- AIP: Since the modified version of this proposal affords us some extra time before the final decision on expenditures is made, it might be a good idea to share the arguments on both sides with the broader group of citizens and see what they think.
- PAB: I appreciate the compromise here and am working as fast as communication allows go get the relevant information from the treasury staff to make a preliminary financial report.
- TDD: I approve of this alteration to the proposal, but I question direction we are going. We are meant to be modern Romans, living today. We should be focusing on infrastructure that benefits all Nova Romans, the website for starters. Perhaps an accountant (familiar with Maine nonprofit law) to get our financials in proper order to get us on track for the future.
Antiquo / Dissentio = 3 (SxLT, QAN, SiFA)
- Comments:
- SxLT: I am disappointed for the lack of consistency from you consul. We were promised these steps of development and I served as consul and military tribune with consular power for three years altogether. Did I do these for nothing? I did in my capacity what I could so we can have NR reach the point when we are out there and we have our own camp version of the City State of Nova Roma. I signed up for these kinds of things when I joined after reading the Declaration. I understand the consul just wanted to honor democracy here, but we honor democracy so long we will forget that we are an organization created to do things. We are not a platonic republic to play legal formulas but a history organization. I saw civil wars, I fought one as a leader, but I didn't expect to see we are afraid just to function so we can please everyone. I will not believe in NR seriously anymore unless I see our organization has its real assets and uses them for going out and host our Roman community events.
Abstineo = 0
Nihil censuerunt = 4 (PPL, MOC, ApCR, AOMG)
CENSUERE: ITA CENSUERUNT (ITEM PASSED)
ITEM II - Senatus consultum de provinciis servandis aut amittendis
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 16 (MCMT, LCB, DCA, MACI, CPST, SxLT, QAN, CCCB, PAB, CFCAS, MHMFF, TiIN, AVC, AIP, CnCL, SiFA)
- Comments:
- CnCL: This gives some time to reconsider a couple of questions, but after all, it was high time that inactive provinces be called upen, and their status as a province be revoked.
- DCA: I think more can be done to strengthen or reactivate provinces, including finding and assisting governor candidates willing & able to serve. But in this agenda item, merging inactive provinces makes sense.
- PAB: I think out current province system needs a major overhaul, but that is a discussion for another day.
Antiquo / Dissentio = 2 (FlVG, TDD)
- Comments:
- FlVG: I fear that once a defunct province is absorbed into another one, there will be no incentive to ever restore it to independence. Most of the provinces in North America are already too large to effectively serve their citizens. This will only exacerbate the problem.
- TDD: I am not a fan of merging provinces. Most are too large as-is. Merging hasn't improved anything anywhere we have done it. Maybe we need to instead look into why activity, retention, and recruitment is low.
Abstineo = 1 (DAI)
- Comments:
- DAI: I won't block this measure but I did want to highlight how unwieldy our provincial evaluation system has become. Through no fault of their own, very few senators here (let alone the governors themselves) could accurately recall with sufficient detail all the legislation that governs the administration of our provinces and what provinces have reported what and when. This decree is the latest attempt to temporarily band-aid a failing system. Part of the issue is the lack of "local" governors, a lack of mentoring and training, and burdening the busiest people in the Republic with multiple governorships. I urge the senate to consider addressing the underlying issues here.
Nihil censuerunt = 4 (PPL, MOC, ApCR, AOMG)
CENSUERE: ITA CENSUERUNT (ITEM PASSED)
ITEM III - Senatus consultum de Legione XXIV Media Atlantia traducenda
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 18 (DAI, MCMT, LCB, DCA, MACI, CPST, SxLT, QAN, FlVG, CCCB, PAB, CFCAS, MHMFF, TiIN, AVC, AIP, CnCL, SiFA)
- Comments:
- CnCL: May our legion continue to live, and with them, the memory of the commander Gallio Velius Marsallas!
Antiquo / Dissentio = 0
Abstineo = 1 (TDD)
- Comments:
Nihil censuerunt = 4 (PPL, MOC, ApCR, AOMG)
CENSUERE: ITA CENSUERUNT (ITEM PASSED)
Session Results
- Senators who did not vote in this session: PPL, MOC, ApCR, AOMG.
