Session LII 31 August 2757

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This is a report of a session of the Nova Roma Senate of prid. Kal. Sept. , Cn. Salvio Cn. Equitio cos. MMDCCLVII a.u.c..


Senate action for 31 August 2757 as posted in the “old Tabularium” Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Censor 10 August 2761 A.V.C.

Senate Voting Results

Senate Voting Results published on 31 August 2757 Formal debate ended on Monday, 23 August at midnight Roman time. Voting began immediately afterwards and ended on 28 August at midnight Roman time. Results were officially published by the presiding magistrate, Consul Gnaeus Equitius Marinus, on the Senate list on 28 August.

The following 21 Senators cast votes in time. They are referred to below by their initials and are listed in alphabetical order by nomen:

Franciscus Apulus Caesar (FAC) Marcus Arminius Maior (MAM) Marcus Cassius Julianus (MCJ) Patricia Cassia (PC) Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix (LCSF) Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur (LECA) Caius Flavius Diocletianus (CFD) Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (CFQ) Quintus Fabius Maximus (QFM) Antonius Gryllus Graecus (AGG) Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus Macedonicus (AICPM) Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (DIPI) Decimus Iunius Silanus (DIS) Titus Labienus Fortunatus (TLF) Marcus Minucius Audens (MMA) Marcus Octavius Germanicus (MOG) Gaus Popillius Laenas (GPL) Gnaeus Salix Astur (GSA) Lucius Sergius Australicus Obstinatus (LSAO) Lucius Sicinius Drusus (LSD) Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato (ATMC)

The following Senator/s did not cast a vote [and his/her/their absence was not announced or justified in line with the Senatus Consultum defining a quorum and the LEX OCTAVIA DE SENATORIBUS:

Gaius Marius Merullus (CMM) Lucius Pompeius Octavianus (LPO) “UTI ROGAS” indicates a vote in favor of an item, “ANTIQUO” is a vote against, and “ABSTINEO” is an open abstention.

The items for consideration were as follows:

Agenda

I. The Senate adopts the proposed Senate Code of Conduct.

Nova Roma Senate Code of Conduct

1. A Nova Roman Senator shall uphold the honor of the Senate of Nova Roma and of Nova Roma herself. A Senator shall support and defend the Constitution of Nova Roma against all enemies both from without and from within.

2. Whenever dealing with citizens or others who know him to be a Senator of Nova Roma, a Nova Roman Senator shall always act in the best interest of the Republic of Nova Roma, honoring the Gods and Goddesses of Rome, defending the Religio Romano as the national religion of Nova Roma, adhering to the Virtues, and never acting in such a way as to bring disgrace upon the Religio or threaten it's status as the national religion.

3. A Nova Roman Senator shall recognize that appointment to the Senate of Nova Roma is a high honor, reposing trust and responsibility in the Senator. Therefore a Senator will never act in such a way as to bring disgrace upon the Nova Roma Senate or upon Nova Roma herself, and will strive to conduct himself according to the traditional Roman Virtues in all matters touching upon Nova Roma.

4. A Nova Roman Senator shall keep firmly in mind the mission of the Nova Roman Senate, and the fact that the Senate acts in the service of the Republic. When acting within the scope of Nova Roma, in its Senate, fora, and any other place where the Senator is known to be a Nova Roman Senator, a Senator's actions will be guided by what he believes to be the best interests of Nova Roma.

5. A Nova Roman Senator shall report to the Senate any instance in which he is charged with the commission of a felony or other macronational crime for which, if convicted, the maximum penalty would be at least 12 months in confinement. While a charge alone will not be grounds for removal of a Senator from the Senate rolls, failure to report such charges will be.

FAILS - Uti Rogas 9, Antiquo 9, Abstineo 3

FAC: UTI ROGAS. Each Senator must be firstly an example for all the citizens, example of moderation, romanitas and pietas. Some members of this Illustra Chamber failed in the recently past giving it dishonour in my personal opinion. A Code of conduct is necessary NOW to restore a quite and polite situation. MAM: ABSTINEO MCJ: UTI ROGAS PC: UTI ROGAS (yes). I would also support a slight revision to describe a Senator who could be either male or female. LCSF: Antiquo, it is not Roman, nor is it necessary. And, more importantly I believe that this Code of Conduct can be used as a political weapon to silence dissent. AGG: ANTIQVO LECA: ANTIQUO, this item was never approved by the committee that was charged with investigating it’s need. This ‘code’ is being foisted upon us as a modern interpretation of “morality” that has nothing to do with the Roman senate. This is not a Victorian gentleman’s club. We have laws, that’s enough. GEM: UTI ROGAS CFD: Antiquo CFQ: UTI ROGAS. A very good job done by the Chairman Senator Marcus Minucius Tiberius Audens and those who put their time into the task to presnet this proposal, which I fully support. QFM: ANTIQVO. As I said while working in its committee. It is not needed. AICPM: YES DIPI: ANTIQUO It is no surprise I am voting against this since I have opposed it from the beginning and hope all other senators will as well, as it is completely unnecessary. It goes against the letter and spirit of Roma antiqua and lessens the dignity of of the Nova Roman senate. Yes, I worked on the commission to make any potential code less onerous than it would have been. It could have been far worse; as it stands it is pretty innocuous. I oppose it on principle, that it moves us yet another step farther from the ancients, not because of the content. DIS: Antiquo TLF: ABSTINEO MMTA: YES. I am constrained to say in respect of this item that such was created to provide a Code for which Senators could look to for some kind of standard of behavior. It mentions within it the Virtues, which I beleve we all strive for here. I see nothing wrong in NR to moving closer to the Virtues in both our activities in the Senate and those coreespondnces on the Main List and others in answering our citizens. They all deserve a calm, and civil response, without invective or accusation. This Code of Conduct addresses that need. MOG: UTI ROGAS. I note a complete lack of any constructive criticism from those who thought this a grave danger to the Senate’s authority a few weeks ago. GPL: ANTIQUO. The Code seems innocuous on its face, however, I do not see the need to codify something which seems to be common sense. GSA: ABSTINEO LSAO: Antiquo. This does not appear to be either useful, necessary, or appropriate. ATMC: UTI ROGAS

II . The Senate approves the Conventus Novae Romae developed by the European provincial governors.

PASSES - uti Rogas 19, Antiquo I, Abstineo 1

FAC: VTI ROGAS. I consider it a wonderful project, an important step and help to the organization of local live event following one of the goal of our organization. The people thinking that this project is similar to the Limes Cooperation and we don’t need this pact maybe they didn’t understood the importance of the Conventus Nova Romae. MAM: UTI ROGAS MCJ: UTI ROGAS PC: UTI ROGAS (yes) LCSF: UTI ROGAS LECA: ABSTO, isn’t this the same thing as the “Limes” project? GEM: UTI ROGAS CFD: Uti Rogas CFQ: UTI ROGAS QFM: ANTIQVO. I see no difference tbetween this and the Limes Project of Marcius Rex. Until the other is removed we cannot have the same laws on the books. AGG: VTI ROGAS AICPM: YES DIPI: UTI ROGAS DIS: Uti Rogas TLF: UTI ROGAS MMTA: YES MOG: UTI ROGAS GPL: VTI ROGAS GSA: VTI ROGAS LSAO: Uti Rogas ATMC: UTI ROGAS

III. The Senate approves the request of Consul Astur as submitted by Quaestor Saturninus to establish a European bank account that will allow easier fund transfers.

PASSES - Uti Rogas 19, Antiquo 0, Abstineo 2

FAC: VTI ROGAS A necessary step to the growth of NR in EU as real organization too. MAM: UTI ROGAS MCJ: UTI ROGAS PC: UTI ROGAS (yes) LCSF: Abstain, I have concerns over financial oversight issues and financial controls no information has been presented to the Senate. LECA: VTI ROGAS GEM: UTI ROGAS CFD: Uti Rogas CFQ: UTI ROGAS QFM: ABSTANO. I have not seen enough information about this to make a truely informed judgement It sounds good in principle, but who here does not recall the sad state of affairs in Britannia three years before? AGG: VTI ROGAS AICPM: YES DIPI: UTI ROGAS DIS: Uti Rogas TLF: UTI ROGAS MMTA: YES MOG: UTI ROGAS GPL: VTI ROGAS GSA: VTI ROGAS LSAO: Uti Rogas ATMC: UTI ROGAS

IV. The Senate approves the request of Senator Marcus Minucius-Tiberius Audens to set aside $150.00 for the creation of a complete archive of The Eagle. These funds to be provided to Senator Minucius-Tiberius Audens by pride Kal. Ian MMDCCLVIII (Dec 31, 2004).

PASSES - Uti Rogas 19, An 1, Abstineo 1

FAC: VTI ROGAS MAM: ABSTINEO MCJ: UTI ROGAS PC: UTI ROGAS (yes) LCFSF: UTI ROGAS LECA: ANTIQUO, I have copies of all the “Eagles”, those that were sent out until last July anyway. What’s the money for? GEM: UTI ROGAS CFD: Uti Rogas CFQ: UTI ROGAS QFM: VTI ROGAS. Information contained in the past Eagles should be preserved. AGG: VTI ROGAS AICPM: YES DIPI: UTI ROGAS DIS: Uti Rogas TLF: UTI ROGAS MMTA: YES MOG: UTI ROGAS GPL: VTI ROGAS GSA: VTI ROGAS LSAO: Uti Rogas ATMC: UTI ROGAS

V. The Senate approves the request of Senator Marcus Minucius-Tiberius Audens to change the name of The Eagle to Aquila effective Kalendas Ianuarias MMDCCLVIII (Jan 1, 2005).

PASSES - Uti Rogas 21, Antiquo 0, Abstineo 0

FAC: VTI ROGAS MAM: UTI ROGAS MCJ: UTI ROGAS PC: UTI ROGAS (yes) LCFSF: UTI ROGAS LECA: VTI ROGAS GEM: UTI ROGAS CFD: Uti Rogas CFQ: UTI ROGAS QFM: VTI ROGAS. I felt this should have been done from the start. AGG: VTI ROGAS AICPM: YES DIPI: UTI ROGAS DIS: UTI ROGAS TLF: UTI ROGAS MMTA: YES MOG: UTI ROGAS GPL: VTI ROGAS GSA: VTI ROGAS LSAO: Uti Rogas ATMC: UTI ROGAS

VI. The Senate adopts the Senatus Consultum establishing priorities for Nova Roma and their precedences.

Senatus Consultum establishing priorities for Nova Roma

PRIORITIES FOR NOVA ROMA IN ORDER OF PRECEDENCE

The Senate finds that the following items are all priorities for Nova Roma. They are hereby established as such, in order of precedence. This precedence shall not be interpreted to indicate that any item is unimportant. All are priorities. The sole reason for assigning precedence is to better focus resources and effort.

I. The Religio Romana; it's promotion, preservation, protection, and diffusion throughout the communities of Nova Roma.

II. Establishment of a Nova Roma Endowment and its long term growth.

III. Sustaining support of existing projects, including the publication of the Eagle, the Aedilian Fund for the Magna Mater Project, the Scholarship Fund, and the Land Fund.

IV. Outreach, recruitment and retention of citizens, including fostering interest in the activities of the Sodalities.

V. Promotion of Local Group activities.

VI. Encouraging citizens to become involved in the work of government

PASSES - Uti Rogas 17, Antiquo 1, Abstineo 2

FAC: VTI ROGAS. I think that the religious goal is at the same level of other important goals thinking that NR is not only a religious organization. However I think the planning of the most important goals is very important to understand what we’re doing and what is our way. I hope other detailed analysis and plans will follow this. And I hope to see other list of goals each 2 years. MAM: ABSTINEO MCJ: UTI ROGAS PC: UTI ROGAS (yes) LCSF: Uti Rogas LECA: VTI ROGAS GEM: UTI ROGAS CFD: Abstineo CFQ: UTI ROGAS. I see these items as equals, but I also agree that the Religio Romana should be the foremost among equals because of its position as the state-religion and the agreement with the Gods. QFM: VTI ROGAS. Hopefully, this is an important step forward. AGG: VTI ROGAS AICPM: YES DIPI: UTI ROGAS DIS: Abstineo TLF: UTI ROGAS MMTA: YES MOG: UTI ROGAS GPL: VTI ROGAS GSA: VTI ROGAS LSAO: Antiquo. The priorities for Nova Roma were published when the state was founded and (last time I checked, anyway) were still posted on the web site. I am not comfortable with the reasoning behind this move and share some of Senator Audens’ concerns. ATMC: UTI ROGAS

cura ut valeas,


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