Session LXIIII
At the end, 25 Senatores voted satisfying the requirements for a quorum. I congratulate and thank you for the high partecipation. The following are the Senatores which have voted:
FAC - Franciscus Apulus Caesar GSA - Gnaeus Salvius Astur CFD - Caius Flavius Diocletianus MAGG - M. Antonius Gryllus Graecus GPL - Gaius Popillius Laenas MOG - Marcus Octavius Germanicus GEM - Gn. Equitius Marinus CFBQ - Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus JSM - Julilla Sempronia Magna QFM - Q. Fabius Maximus LSD - Lucius Sicinius Drusus MCS - Manius Constantinus Serapio LECA - L Equitius Cincinnatus Augur MAM - Marcus Arminius Maior PC - Patricia Cassia ATC - A. Tullius Cato ECF - Emilia Curia Finnica LSA - Lucius Sergius Australicus DIP - Decius Iunius Palladius MIP - Marcus lulius Perusianus TLF - T Labienus Fortunatus PMT - P. Minucia Tiberia MMTA - Marcus Minucius Tiberius Audens CFL - C. Fabia Livia GMM - Gaius Marius Merullus
The results are the following.
#1 - APPOINTMENT OF MAGISTER ARANEARIUS SUFFECTUS
Given the resignation of Calvus as Magister Aranearius and the importance of this vacant Office for our democratical procedures, the appointment of a Magister Aranearius Suffectus since the election of a new magister is necessary and required by the law. The Senatus is called to approve the appointment of Caius Minucius Scaevola as Magister Aranearius Suffectus. He is a professional consultant for over 20 years, with experiences in both hardware and software. He's teacher of Perl programming, network engineering, and computer security for Sun Microsystems. He's highly experienced in server configuration, CGI, and databases, web design. And He manages a number of web sites including the Linux Gazette (http://linuxgazette.net) where he's also the Editor-in-Chief.
PASSED (20 uti rogas; 0 abtisneo; 5 antiquo)
FAC - VTI ROGAS: Scaevola is very very experienced and skilled, he's our best choice to substitute Calvus for the next 3 months until the election of a new webmaster. GSA - VTI ROGAS CFD - VTI ROGAS MAGG - VTI ROGAS GPL - VTI ROGAS MOG - VTI ROGAS GEM - VTI ROGAS CFBQ - VTI ROGAS: Caius Minucius Scaevola is more then qualified fro this position. I only hope we may appoint an equal to succeed him when he will have no time for it, because, at least the data base needs an overhaul. JSM - VTI ROGAS QFM - VTI ROGAS LSD - ANTIQVO MCS - VTI ROGAS MAM - ANTIQVO PC - VTI ROGAS ATC - VTI ROGAS ECF - VTI ROGAS LSA - ANTIQVO DIP - ANTIQVO MIP - VTI ROGAS: I don't know him but what I know is that we desperately need such a magistrate. Myself, I was blocked in the publication of an edictum in cooperation with the former magister aranearius and my staff. TLF - VTI ROGAS PMT - VTI ROGAS MMTA - VTI ROGAS CFL - VTI ROGAS GMM - VTI ROGAS
#2 - APPOINTMENT OF PROPRAETOR PROVINCIAE LACUS MAGNI
Appointment of C. Fabius Buteo Modianus as new Propraetor of Provincia Lacus Magni.
PASSED (24 uti rogas; 0 abtisneo; 1 antiquo)
FAC - VTI ROGAS GSA - VTI ROGAS CFD - VTI ROGAS MAGG - VTI ROGAS GPL - VTI ROGAS MOG - VTI ROGAS GEM - VTI ROGAS CFBQ - VTI ROGAS: C. Fabius Buteo Modianus has my full support as the new Propraetor of Provincia Lacus Magni. JSM - VTI ROGAS QFM - VTI ROGAS LSD - ANTIQVO MCS - VTI ROGAS: I am glad to see him in this position. MAM - VTI ROGAS PC - VTI ROGAS ATC - VTI ROGAS ECF - VTI ROGAS LSA - VTI ROGAS DIP - VTI ROGAS MIP - VTI ROGAS TLF - VTI ROGAS PMT - VTI ROGAS MMTA - VTI ROGAS CFL - VTI ROGAS GMM - VTI ROGAS
#3 - SPONSORSHIP OF LEGIO VIIII HISPANIA
Marcus Adrianus Complutensis asks the sponsorship by Nova Roma of the Legio VIIII Hispania formed by nova romans citizens.
PASSED (25 uti rogas; 0 abtisneo; 0 antiquo)
FAC - VTI ROGAS: I applaude the job accomplished by Provincia Hispania and its Legio promoting NR in spain. GSA - VTI ROGAS CFD - VTI ROGAS MAGG - VTI ROGAS GPL - VTI ROGAS MOG - VTI ROGAS GEM - VTI ROGAS CFBQ - VTI ROGAS: I am very happy to support this Legio in Europe. JSM - VTI ROGAS QFM - VTI ROGAS LSD - VTI ROGAS MCS - VTI ROGAS: congratulations to the Spanish citizens on thei outstanding job! MAM - VTI ROGAS PC - VTI ROGAS ATC - VTI ROGAS: I have heard that they have been doing excellent work and I am sure that they will continue to do so. ECF - VTI ROGAS LSA - VTI ROGAS DIP - VTI ROGAS MIP - VTI ROGAS TLF - VTI ROGAS PMT - VTI ROGAS: With great pleasure. MMTA - VTI ROGAS CFL - VTI ROGAS GMM - VTI ROGAS
#4 - CREATION OF BANK ACCOUNT IN EUROPE
Given the discussion in the previous Senatus Consultum, I ask the approval to create a bank account in Europa. It would low the expanses for the tax-raising, the payments, and all the financial actions for the citizens and Provinciae living in EU, Eastern Europe, Russia and Mediterranean area. The account would be managed by the Tresury of NR by an experienced nova roman appointed by the Senatus. After a long research in all the States member of the EU, my staff have found a cheap and serious opportunity in Spain as following:
BBVA (Banco Bilbao Vizcaya Argentaria) The cost of the account depends on the amount of money NR have there.
Up to 150 EUR -> 10,50 EUR every 6 months (i.e. 21 EUR per year) Up to 3000 EUR -> 9,02 EUR every 6 months (i.e. 18,04 EUR per year) Over 3000 EUR -> 7,58 EUR every 6 months (i.e. 15,16 EUR per year)
Every "action" on the account costs 0,36 EUR.
PASSED (21 uti rogas; 0 abtisneo; 4 antiquo)
FAC - VTI ROGAS: An essential step for the growth of NR in the world, helping the financial activities from and to the provinciae and citizens in the Old Continent. GSA - VTI ROGAS CFD - VTI ROGAS MAGG - VTI ROGAS GPL - VTI ROGAS MOG - VTI ROGAS GEM - VTI ROGAS CFBQ - VTI ROGAS: A step that has been needed for a very long time now. JSM - VTI ROGAS QFM - ANTIQVO: Was not persuaded by arguments that this would be a good thing, nor was I convinced of the trust issues I had raised would be solved. LSD - ANTIQVO MCS - VTI ROGAS MAM - VTI ROGAS PC - ANTIQVO ATC - VTI ROGAS: this is something that I believe is needed for our citizens across the sea. ECF - VTI ROGAS LSA - VTI ROGAS DIP - ANTIQVO MIP - VTI ROGAS TLF - VTI ROGAS PMT - VTI ROGAS MMTA - VTI ROGAS CFL - VTI ROGAS: With the note that Britain has free banking for charities & non-profit organizations, which are entirely without charges - which will not be much good until we join the Euro, but may eventually be a viable alternative. GMM - VTI ROGAS
#5 - APPOINTMENT OF GNAEUS SALVIUS ASTUR AS MANAGER FOR THE BANK ACCOUNT IN EUROPE
The Senatus is called to appoint Senator Gnaues Salvius Astur to manage the bank account in Europe at BBVA (Banco Bilbao Vizcaya Argentaria) in Madrid for Nova Roma Inc.
PASSED (21 uti rogas; 1 abtisneo; 3 antiquo)
FAC - VTI ROGAS GSA - VTI ROGAS CFD - VTI ROGAS MAGG - VTI ROGAS GPL - VTI ROGAS MOG - VTI ROGAS GEM - VTI ROGAS CFBQ - VTI ROGAS: There is no one I trust more in Nova Roma, he is the right man. JSM - VTI ROGAS QFM - ANTIQVO LSD - ANTIQVO MCS - VTI ROGAS MAM - VTI ROGAS PC - ANTIQVO ATC - VTI ROGAS: A good man for the job in my opinion. ECF - VTI ROGAS LSA - VTI ROGAS DIP - ABSTINEO MIP - VTI ROGAS TLF - VTI ROGAS PMT - VTI ROGAS: A very capable individual. We are fortunate to have his assistance in this regard. MMTA - VTI ROGAS CFL - VTI ROGAS GMM - VTI ROGAS
#6 - APPOINTMENT OF PORTUGUESE INTERPRETER
Appointment of Titus Marcius Felix as Portuguese Interpreter
PASSED (23 uti rogas; 2 abtisneo; 0 antiquo)
FAC - ABSTINEO: I don't know him GSA - VTI ROGAS CFD - VTI ROGAS MAGG - VTI ROGAS GPL - VTI ROGAS MOG - VTI ROGAS GEM - VTI ROGAS CFBQ - VTI ROGAS: We need this interpreter. JSM - VTI ROGAS QFM - VTI ROGAS LSD - VTI ROGAS MCS - VTI ROGAS: I don't know him, nor I think he has ever translated a page of our website into Partuguese (in case I'm wrong I apologize), but we certainly need a translator for this language so I want to trust him. MAM - VTI ROGAS: Uti Rogas. Titus Marcius already started some translations, and is just waiting for a new Magister Aranearium. PC - VTI ROGAS ATC - ABSTINEO: I do not know the gentleman ECF - VTI ROGAS LSA - VTI ROGAS DIP - VTI ROGAS MIP - VTI ROGAS TLF - VTI ROGAS PMT - VTI ROGAS MMTA - VTI ROGAS CFL - VTI ROGAS GMM - VTI ROGAS
#7 - CREATION OF THE NOVA ROMAN CARITAS FUND
Following the suggestions came from the Main list, I propose the creation of the Nova Roman Caritas Fund in order to help our citizens and their family in the need and during tragedies. The NR Caritas Fund will be inserted in the Nova Roman Tresury but the collected donations must to be used only for caritas actions. Any citizen interested in a project of donation may request the approval by the Senatus to open a money-raising and to use the nova roman paypal account (with object: NR CARITAS - NAME OF THE PROJECT). The presented project may present the adresses of the collected money and the deadline. At the deadline the sending of the money will be accomplished by the Consules and/or by their Consular Quaestores. Any donation by the Senatus would be inserted by the Consul in the provisional annual budget.
REJECTED (3 uti rogas; 4 abtisneo; 18 antiquo)
FAC - VTI ROGAS: Maybe NR is not able to organize detailed humantary helps, but the raised monies could sent to professional organizations working in the field. GSA - ANTIQVO: Although I obviously support the idea of helping those in need, I believe that there are organizations better suited for that purpose than Nova Roma. We do not have the necessary infrastructure, we do not have the knowledge or experience... I invite those citizens interested in donating funds for charity to contact those organizations. CFD - VTI ROGAS MAGG - ANTIQVO: After following the dabate that took place in this august chamber, I am still of the opinion that NR is still not in a position to sponsor this kind of activities. GPL - ANTIQVO MOG - ANTIQVO GEM - ABSTINEO: I think this is an admirable idea, and one within Nova Roma's charter of being an educational, social, and charitable organization. However, I have deep reservations about our ability to undertake this effort at this time. I commend Consul Caesar for placing this item on the Senate agenda for discussion. CFBQ - ABSTINEO: I have been thinking about this and at last I understood why I liked the idea so much. Of course we can't do the work of the great organisations and it would be easier to support the great international relief organizations - except if we want to support - Nova Roman citizens. I suggest that the Honorable Consul rewrite the proposal and let it say: "I propose the creation of the Nova Roman Caritas Fund in order to help Nova Roman citizens and their families in the need and during tragedies. The NR Caritas Fund will be inserted in the Nova Roman Tresury but the collected donations must to be used only for Caritas actions aimed at Nova Roman citizens in such disaster areas. Any citizen interested in a project of donation may request the approval by the Senatus to open a money-raising and to use the NovaRoman Paypal account (with object: NR CARITAS - NAME OF THE PROJECT). The presented project may present the addresses of the collected money and the deadline. At the deadline the sending of the money will be accomplished by the Consular Quaestores under the supervision of the Consules." I think that quiet a lot of the Senatores thought that the proposal intended to compete with the great international relief organizations. By only supporting Nova Roman citizens that has been hit by disasters I think the proposal might get a quiet different meaning and also help us all to develop a common solidarity.. This way the Caritas fund will do something no one else will be doing. I even think that this might have been the intention of Sextus Apollonius Scipio when he suggested this and maybe also the Senior Consul saw the same solution. JSM - ANTIQVO: My feelings about this issue were ably spoken by Patricia Cassia. Any charitable giving should be aligned with our mission. QFM - ANTIQVO: While admirable in sentiment, unworkable in our current condition. Too much chance of misuse. LSD - ANTIQVO MCS - ANTIQVO: I explained my reasons. I think our citizens would make a better service by directly donating to the right organizations without Nova Roma having to act as an intermediary. MAM - ANTIQVO PC - ANTIQVO: I believe NR's charitable efforts should be directed toward Roman-related causes. ATC - VTI ROGAS ECF - ANTIQVO LSA - ANTIQVO: I think perhaps this needs further consideration and finer definition. DIP - ABSTINEO MIP - ANTIQVO: Simply I think there are a lot of specialized caritas organization where a citizen can send money and NR has her own goals to pursue with her money. TLF - ANTIQVO PMT - ABSTINEO MMTA - ANTIQVO CFL - ANTIQVO GMM - ANTIQVO: I think that this item comes with the best intentions but am convinced by statements of other senators against pursuing such a fund.
#8 - NOVA ROMA CARITAS "PROJECT KATRINA"
- 8 - NOVA ROMA CARITAS "PROJECT KATRINA"
Following the proposal of the NR Caritas Fund, Sextus Apollonius Cordus proposes to open the donation-raising for the nova roman victims of teh hurricane Katrina in Louisiana and Alabama as indicated at http://www.fr-novaroma.com/Caritas/
REJECTED (3 uti rogas; 3 abtisneo; 19 antiquo)
FAC - VTI ROGAS: For the written reasons on point 7 GSA - ANTIQVO: For the same reasons indicated for item #7. CFD - VTI ROGAS MAGG - ANTIQVO: That would create a precedent that would force NR to help (in case of natural disaster) any country where there is at least an NR citizen living. As per #7 above, I believe that NR's current position prevents that kind of commitment. GPL - ANTIQVO MOG - ANTIQVO GEM - ABSTINEO CFBQ - ABSTINEO JSM - ANTIQVO QFM - ANTIQVO: We are not set up to do this. LSD - ANTIQVO MCS - ANTIQVO: See above MAM - ANTIQVO PC - ANTIQVO ATC - VTI ROGAS ECF - ANTIQVO LSA - ANTIQVO DIP - ANTIQVO MIP - ANTIQVO TLF - ANTIQVO PMT - ABSTINEO: My feelings in regard to the above two items were stated earlier this session by Senatrix Patricia Cassia. To expand, I appreciate the virtuous intentions of these items. I truly do. But they entail far more work and redtape than we are currently capable of handling right now, IMO. MMTA - ANTIQVO CFL - ANTIQVO
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Fr. Apulus Caesar
