Session LXXX 18 January 2760

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This is a report of a session of the Nova Roma Senate of a.d. XV Kal. Feb. ‡, L. Arminio Ti. Galerio cos. ‡ MMDCCLX a.u.c..

Contents

Senate Voting Results

The Senate was called to order on Jan. 18th 2007. The Contio was held on agenda items until Jan. 23rd 2007

Voting on the agenda items was then held from Jan. 23rd , 24:00 to Jan. 31st 2007, 24:00 (time of Rome).

On 31st of January, the latest session of the Senate of Nova Roma was declared closed by the Consul L. Arminius Faustus, in which 33 of the 38 senatores voted, fulfilling the quorum needed for the session.


Here are the list of the voting 33 Senators, alphabetically listed by nomen:

  • [SAS] Sextus Apollonius Scipio
  • [FAC] Franciscus Apulus Caesar
  • [LAF] Lucius Arminius Faustus
  • [MAM] Marcus Arminius Maior
  • [MBA] Marcus Bianchius Antonius
  • [PC] Patricia Cassia
  • [ECF] Emilia Curia Finnica
  • [CCS] Caius Curius Saturninus
  • [GEC] Gaius Equitius Cato
  • [GEM] Gnaeus Equitius Marinus
  • [LECA] Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus Augur
  • [GFBM] Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus
  • [CFBQ] Caeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus
  • [QFM] Quintus Fabius Maximus
  • [CFD] Caius Flavius Diocletianus
  • [TGP] Tiberius Galerius Paulinus
  • [AMA] Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia
  • [MMPH] Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus
  • [MIP] Marcus Iulius Perusianus
  • [DIPI] Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus
  • [GMM] Gaius Marius Merullus
  • [LMS] Lucius Minicius Sceptius
  • [MMA] Marcus Minucius Audens
  • [PMS] Pompeia Minucia Strabo
  • [MOG] Marcus Octavius Gracchus
  • [TOPA] Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus
  • [GPL] Gaius Popillius Laenas
  • [GSA] Gnaeus Salvius Astur
  • [JSM] Julilla Sempronia Magna
  • [LSA] Lucius Sergius Australicus
  • [QSP] Quintus Suetonius Paulinus
  • [ATS ] A. Tullia Scholastica
  • [ATMC] Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato


Item I - Appointment of interpreters


1a. Titus Arminius Genialis as interpreter of PORTUGUESE

Results

UR: 33, ABS: 0, ANT: 0: the sub-item passed.

Votes and opinions

The following senators issued the following commentaries:

  • MOG: UR to all. They have been doing excellent work already in the Wiki
  • PC: UR to all, with thanks for work already accomplished.
  • PMS UR I thank them very much for their willingness to serve.
  • ATS: UR. Geniális has an excellent command of English, and seems quite eager to work.


1b. According Lex Cornelia, creation of the office of HUNGARIAN Interpreter, and appointment of Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus as its first interpreter

Results

UR: 33, ABS: 0, ANT: 0: the sub-item passed.

Votes and opinions

The following senators issued the following commentaries:

  • MOG: UR to all. They have been doing excellent work already

in the Wiki

  • PC: UR to all, with thanks for work already accomplished.
  • PMS UR. I thank them very much for their willingness to serve.
  • ATS: UR. Lentulus is a fine young man, and a graduate student in

classics who is devoted to Rome and Nova Roma.


1c. Titus Octavius Avitus as interpreter of FRENCH

Results

UR: 33, ABS: 0, ANT: 0: the sub-item passed.

Votes and opinions

The following senators issued the following commentaries:

  • MOG: UR to all. They have been doing excellent work already in the Wiki.
  • TGP UR. I appreciate their willingness to serve
  • PC: UR to all, with thanks for work already accomplished.
  • PMS: UR. I thank them very much for their willingness to serve.
  • CMM: UR. I vote to appoint all three in item I
  • ATS: UR. I have had correspondence with this gentleman as well, and his

training and level of competency in French seem to be at a very high level.


Item II - Appointment of propraetors and proconsuls


2a. Lucius Aurelius Severus as propraetor of CANADA ORIENTALIS

Results

UR: 33, ABS: 0, ANT: 0: the sub-item passed.

Votes and opinions

The following senators issued the following commentaries:

  • LMS: UR to all EXCEPT: point 2.h. (California) which I vote Antiquo, and point 2.m (Hispania) which I vote Abstineo. Besides, I'm no longer Didius Geminus, but Minicius. Yahoo messing up...
  • TOPA: UR to a through g and i through m.
  • CCS: UR to A through G and I through M. Antiquo to H (California). It's time for the Senate to appoint a new person there.
  • ECF: UR from A to G and from I to M. Antiquo to H (California). It would be good to find an active propraetor for this provincia.
  • AMA: UR to all with my sincere thanks.
  • CMM: UR I vote to appoint all nominated individuals above to govern provinces


2b. Gnaeus Iulius Caesar as propraetor of CANADA OCCIDENTALIS

Results

UR: 33, ABS: 0, ANT: 0: the sub-item passed.

Votes and opinions

The following senators issued the following commentaries:

  • QSP - UR and with great appreciation for his skills and dedication.
  • GEM - UR, with my particular thanks to Gn. Iulius for being willing to continue in office. Our western Canadian group is small, but of very high quality.
  • LMS - UR to all exept "2.h." (California) which I vote Antiquo, and point 2.m (Hispania) which I vote Abstineo. Besides, I'm no longer Didius Geminus, but Minicius. Yahoo messing up...
  • LECA - UR. Gaenus is a fine example of Roman virtue. I believe he ought to be a Senator.
  • CCS: UR to A through G and I through M. Antiquo to H (California). It's time for the Senate to appoint a new person there
  • ECF: UR from A to G and from I to M. Antiquo to H (California). It would be good to find an active propraetor for this provincial
  • AMA: UR to all with my sincere thanks.
  • CMM - UR I vote to appoint all nominated individuals above to govern provinces


2c. Titus Arminius Genialis as propraetor of BRASILIA

Results

UR: 33, ABS: 0, ANT: 0: the sub-item passed.


Votes and opinions

The following senators issued the following commentaries:

  • LMS - UR to all EXCEPT: point 2.h. (California) which I vote 'antiquo', and point 2.m (Hispania) which I vote 'abstineo'. Besides, I'm no longer Didius Geminus, but Minicius. Yahoo messing up...
  • MMA- "a" through "m" except for "h"/ UR;
  • CCS: UR to A through G and I through M. Antiquo to H (California). It's time for the Senate to appoint a new person there.
  • MIP: UR
  • ECF: UR from A to G and from I to M. Antiquo to H (California). It would be good to find an active propraetor for this provincia.
  • AMA: UR to all with my sincere thanks.
  • CMM - UR I vote to appoint all nominated individuals above to govern provinces


2d. Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus as propraetor of PANNONIA

  • QSP - UTI ROGAS
  • MOG: UTI ROGAS
  • GEM - Uti Rogas. Lentulus is a superb citizen, and an able magistrate.
  • TGP - VTI ROGAS
  • JSM: UTI ROGAS
  • LMS - Uti Rogas to all EXCEPT: point 2.h. (California) which I vote Antiquo, and

point 2.m (Hispania) which I vote Abstineo. Besides, I'm no longer Didius Geminus, but Minicius. Yahoo messing up...

  • CFD: Uti Rogas
  • PC: UTI ROGAS to all.
  • MMA- "a" through "m" except for "h"-- YES;
  • LECA - VTI ROGAS
  • LSA: Uti Rogas
  • PMS -UTI ROGAS
  • MMPH - UTI ROGAS
  • QFM - VTI ROGAS to all
  • TOPA: UTI ROGAS to a through g and i through m.
  • GFBM: Uti Rogas
  • GPL - Uti Rogas to all.
  • MBA : UTI ROGAS
  • DIPI: Uti rogas to all
  • CCS: Uti rogas to A through G and I through M. Antiquo to H (California). It's

time for the Senate to appoint a new person there

  • MIP: VTI ROGAS
  • ECF: Uti rogas from A to G and from I to M. Antiquo to H (California). It would

be good to find an active propraetor for this provincia.

  • ATMC - UTI ROGAS
  • LAF :VTI ROGAS
  • CFBQ: Uti Rogas
  • FAC: VTI ROGAS. I'm happy that the Pannonia will be in good hands.
  • CSA - I vote in favour.
  • MAM: Uti Rogas.
  • AMA: Uti Rogas to all with my sincere thanks.
  • SAS: Uti Rogas.
  • CMM - Vti rogas I vote to appoint all nominated individuals above to govern

provinces

  • ATS: Vtí rogás
  • GEC: Uti Rogas

33 Uti Rogas: Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus is appointed as propraetor of PANNONIA


2e. Titus Iulius Sabinus as propraetor of DACIA

  • QSP - UTI ROGAS
  • MOG: UTI ROGAS
  • GEM- Uti Rogas. Sabinus is one of our very best. Dacia is fortunate to have him.
  • TGP - VTI ROGAS
  • JSM: UTI ROGAS
  • LMS - Uti Rogas to all EXCEPT: point 2.h. (California) which I vote Antiquo, and

point 2.m (Hispania) which I vote Abstineo. Besides, I'm no longer Didius Geminus, but Minicius. Yahoo messing up...

  • CFD: Uti Rogas
  • PC: UTI ROGAS to all.
  • MMA- "a" through "m" except for "h"-- YES;
  • LECA - VTI ROGAS
  • LSA: Uti Rogas
  • PMS -UTI ROGAS
  • MMPH - UTI ROGAS

QFM - VTI ROGAS to all GFBM: Uti Rogas GPL - Uti Rogas to all. MBA : UTI ROGAS DIPI: Uti rogas to all CCS: Uti rogas to A through G and I through M. Antiquo to H (California). It's time for the Senate to appoint a new person there MIP: VTI ROGAS ECF: Uti rogas from A to G and from I to M. Antiquo to H (California). It would be good to find an active propraetor for this provincia. ATMC - UTI ROGAS LAF :VTI ROGAS CFBQ: Uti Rogas FAC: VTI ROGAS. I support Sabinus, a very skilled magistrates with excellent idea. CSA - I vote in favour. MAM: Uti Rogas. AMA: Uti Rogas to all with my sincere thanks. SAS: Uti Rogas. CMM - Vti rogas I vote to appoint all nominated individuals above to govern provinces ATS: Vtí rogás. Sabínus is a dedicated, hardworking, citizen who should be cloned. GEC: Uti Rogas

33 Uti Rogas: Titus Iulius Sabinusis appointed as propraetor of DACIA.


2f. Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus as proconsul of LACUS MAGNI

QSP - UTI ROGAS MOG: UTI ROGAS GEM - Uti Rogas. My thanks to Gaius Fabius for his continued efforts on behalf of the Republic. TGP - VTI ROGAS JSM: UTI ROGAS LMS - Uti Rogas to all EXCEPT: point 2.h. (California) which I vote Antiquo, and point 2.m (Hispania) which I vote Abstineo. Besides, I'm no longer Didius Geminus, but Minicius. Yahoo messing up... CFD: Uti Rogas PC: UTI ROGAS to all. MMA- "a" through "m" except for "h"-- YES; LECA - VTI ROGAS LSA: Uti Rogas PMS -UTI ROGAS MMPH - UTI ROGAS QFM - VTI ROGAS to all TOPA: UTI ROGAS to a through g and i through m. GFBM: Uti Rogas GPL - Uti Rogas to all. MBA : UTI ROGAS DIPI: Uti rogas to all CCS: Uti rogas to A through G and I through M. Antiquo to H (California). It's time for the Senate to appoint a new person there MIP: VTI ROGAS ECF: Uti rogas from A to G and from I to M. Antiquo to H (California). It would be good to find an active propraetor for this provincia. ATMC - UTI ROGAS LAF :VTI ROGAS CFBQ: Uti Rogas FAC: VTI ROGAS Very experienced citizen. CSA - I vote in favour. MAM: Uti Rogas. AMA: Uti Rogas to all with my sincere thanks. SAS: Uti Rogas. CMM - Vti rogas I vote to appoint all nominated individuals above to govern provinces ATS: Vtí rogás. GEC: Uti Rogas

33 Uti Rogas: Gaius Fabius Buteo Modianus is appointed as proconsul of LACUS MAGNI


2g. Caius Curius Saturninus as propraetor of THULE

QSP - UTI ROGAS MOG: UTI ROGAS GEM - Uti Rogas. Another first rate citizen. I am pleased he is willing to continue to serve. TGP - VTI ROGAS JSM: UTI ROGAS LMS - Uti Rogas to all EXCEPT: point 2.h. (California) which I vote Antiquo, and point 2.m (Hispania) which I vote Abstineo. Besides, I'm no longer Didius Geminus, but Minicius. Yahoo messing up... CFD: Uti Rogas PC: UTI ROGAS to all. MMA- "a" through "m" except for "h"-- YES; LECA - VTI ROGAS LSA: Uti Rogas PMS -UTI ROGAS MMPH - UTI ROGAS QFM - VTI ROGAS to all TOPA: UTI ROGAS to a through g and i through m. GFBM: Uti Rogas GPL - Uti Rogas to all. MBA : UTI ROGAS DIPI: Uti rogas to all CCS: Uti rogas to A through G and I through M. Antiquo to H (California). It's time for the Senate to appoint a new person there MIP: VTI ROGAS ECF: Uti rogas from A to G and from I to M. Antiquo to H (California). It would be good to find an active propraetor for this provincia. ATMC - UTI ROGAS LAF :VTI ROGAS CFBQ: Uti Rogas FAC: VTI ROGAS Saturninus is one of our most active and intelligent citizen. CSA - I vote in favour. MAM: Uti Rogas. AMA: Uti Rogas to all with my sincere thanks. SAS: Uti Rogas. CMM - Vti rogas I vote to appoint all nominated individuals above to govern provinces ATS: Vtí rogás. GEC: Uti Rogas

33 Uti Rogas: Caius Curius Saturninus is appointed as propraetor of THULE.


2h. Quintus Fabius Maximus as proconsul of CALIFORNIA

  • QSP - UTI ROGAS
  • MOG: ANTIQUO. We've seen nothing but decline in that province for

five years. It's time for an active governor.

  • GEM - Antiquo. It is time and past time for California to have another governor.

Better the governorship of California be left empty a few months than it be saddled for yet another year with a governor who does nothing and suppresses the efforts of others to do things within his province.

  • TGP - VTI ROGAS
  • JSM: ANTIQUO
  • LMS - Uti Rogas to all EXCEPT: point 2.h. (California) which I vote Antiquo, and

point 2.m (Hispania) which I vote Abstineo. Besides, I'm no longer Didius Geminus, but Minicius. Yahoo messing up...

  • CFD: Uti Rogas
  • PC: UTI ROGAS to all.
  • MMA: "h"—ABSTAIN

In regards to Senator Maximus and Provincia California, his provided plan looks pretty good to me. He is having the same kind of difficulty in California, that I am seeing in Nova Britannia. We do not always agree, however, I trust that what he says, he will do his best to accomplish. Additionally, I see no other governor candidate for that province, and I strongly disagree that no governor is better than the existing one. –MMA I have made an error in my vote. I voted to Abstain my vote for Senator Maximus as a governor. I want to change that error to read: "YES" for Governor Maximus and to "ABSTAIN" for Governor Marcus Audens. My thanks to Senator Maximus for alerting me to my error. My apologies for any difficulty that this error has caused.

  • LECA - VTI ROGAS
  • LSA: Uti Rogas
  • PMS –ANTIQUO
  • MMPH - ANTIQUO
  • QFM - VTI ROGAS to all
  • TOPA: ANTIQUO. We need to stop the decline, and a new governor is part

of the solution.

  • GFBM: Antiquo
  • GPL - Uti Rogas to all.
  • MBA : ANTIQUO
  • DIPI: Uti rogas to all
  • CCS: Uti rogas to A through G and I through M. Antiquo to H (California). It's

time for the Senate to appoint a new person there

  • MIP: ANTIQVO
  • ECF: Antiquo to H (California). It would be good to find an active propraetor

for this provincia.

  • ATMC – ABSTAIN
  • LAF : ANTIQVO - The absence of people of California so long time, a culturally

so rich environment, makes me worry about the capacity of the governor. We used to use the W.O. rule - nobody steps down, the sole willing citizen becomes the wining candidate. Well, I think on this case it is not working anymore.

  • CFBQ: Antiquo
  • FAC: ANTIQVO California needs an active governor
  • CSA - I vote against.
  • MAM: Antiquo.
  • AMA: Antiquo.
  • SAS: Abstineo.
  • CMM - Vti rogas I vote to appoint all nominated individuals above to govern

provinces

  • ATS: Antiquó
  • GEC: Uti Rogas

12 Uti Rogas, 2 Abstineo and 19 Antiquo: Quintus Fabius Maximus is NOT appointed as proconsul of CALIFORNIA

2i. C. Sempronia Graccha Volentia as propraetor of AMERICA MEDIOCCIDENTALIS SUPERIOR

  • QSP - UTI ROGAS
  • MOG: UTI ROGAS.
  • GEM: Uti Rogas.
  • TGP - VTI ROGAS
  • JSM: UTI ROGAS
  • LMS - Uti Rogas to all EXCEPT: point 2.h. (California) which I vote Antiquo, and

point 2.m (Hispania) which I vote Abstineo. Besides, I'm no longer Didius Geminus, but Minicius. Yahoo messing up...

  • CFD: Uti Rogas
  • PC: UTI ROGAS to all.
  • MMA- "a" through "m" except for "h"-- YES;
  • LECA - VTI ROGAS
  • LSA: Uti Rogas
  • PMS -UTI ROGAS
  • MMPH - UTI ROGAS
  • QFM - VTI ROGAS to all
  • TOPA: UTI ROGAS to a through g and i through m.
  • GFBM: Uti Rogas
  • GPL - Uti Rogas to all.
  • MBA : UTI ROGAS
  • DIPI: Uti rogas to all
  • CCS: Uti rogas to A through G and I through M. Antiquo to H (California). It's

time for the Senate to appoint a new person there

  • MIP: VTI ROGAS
  • ECF: Uti rogas from A to G and from I to M. Antiquo to H (California). It would

be good to find an active propraetor for this provincia.

  • ATMC - UTI ROGAS
  • LAF: VTI ROGAS
  • CFBQ: Uti Rogas
  • FAC: VTI ROGAS
  • CSA - I vote in favour.
  • MAM: Uti Rogas.
  • AMA: Uti Rogas to all with gratitude.
  • SAS: Uti Rogas.
  • CMM - Vti rogas I vote to appoint all nominated individuals above to govern

provinces

  • ATS: Vtí rogás. She has done a good job with the calendar distribution in the

US, and with various sodalitates. The title, however, should be propraetríx in her case.

  • GEC: Uti Rogas

33 Uti Rogas: C. Sempronia Graccha Volentia is appointed as propraetrix of AMERICA MEDIOCCIDENTALIS SUPERIOR


2j. Fl. Galerius Aurelianus as propraetor of AMERICA AUSTRORIENTALIS

  • QSP - UTI ROGAS
  • MOG: UTI ROGAS.
  • GEM - Uti Rogas, with my thanks to Propraetor Galerius for his active and

enthusiastic service.

  • TGP - VTI ROGAS
  • JSM: UTI ROGAS
  • LMS - Uti Rogas to all EXCEPT: point 2.h. (California) which I vote Antiquo, and

point 2.m (Hispania) which I vote Abstineo. Besides, I'm no longer Didius Geminus, but Minicius. Yahoo messing up...

  • CFD: Uti Rogas
  • PC: UTI ROGAS to all.
  • MMA- "a" through "m" except for "h"-- YES;
  • LECA - VTI ROGAS
  • LSA: Uti Rogas
  • PMS -UTI ROGAS
  • MMPH - UTI ROGAS
  • QFM - VTI ROGAS to all
  • TOPA: UTI ROGAS to a through g and i through m.
  • GFBM: Uti Rogas
  • GPL - Uti Rogas to all.
  • MBA : UTI ROGAS
  • DIPI: Uti rogas to all
  • CCS: Uti rogas to A through G and I through M. Antiquo to H (California). It's

time for the Senate to appoint a new person there

  • MIP: VTI ROGAS
  • ECF: Uti rogas from A to G and from I to M. Antiquo to H (California). It would

be good to find an active propraetor for this provincia.

  • ATMC - UTI ROGAS
  • LAF:VTI ROGAS
  • CFBQ: Uti Rogas
  • FAC: VTI ROGAS
  • CSA - I vote in favour.
  • MAM: Uti Rogas.
  • AMA: Uti Rogas to all with gratitude.
  • SAS: Uti Rogas.
  • CMM - Vti rogas I vote to appoint all nominated individuals above to govern

provinces

  • ATS: Vtí rogás.
  • GEC: Uti Rogas

33 Uti Rogas: Fl. Galerius Aurelianus is appointed as propraetor of AMERICA AUSTRORIENTALIS

2k. Tiberius Galerius Paulinus as proconsul of AMERICA MEDIATLANTICA

  • QSP - UTI ROGAS
  • MOG: UTI ROGAS.
  • GEM: Uti Rogas, by whatever title, a good governor.
  • TGP – ABSTINEO
  • JSM: UTI ROGAS
  • LMS - Uti Rogas to all EXCEPT: point 2.h. (California) which I vote Antiquo, and

point 2.m (Hispania) which I vote Abstineo. Besides, I'm no longer Didius Geminus, but Minicius. Yahoo messing up...

  • CFD: Uti Rogas
  • PC: UTI ROGAS to all.
  • MMA- "a" through "m" except for "h"-- YES;
  • LECA - VTI ROGAS
  • LSA: Uti Rogas
  • PMS -UTI ROGAS
  • MMPH - UTI ROGAS
  • QFM - VTI ROGAS to all
  • TOPA: UTI ROGAS to a through g and i through m.
  • GFBM: Uti Rogas
  • GPL - Uti Rogas to all.
  • MBA : UTI ROGAS
  • DIPI: Uti rogas to all
  • CCS: Uti rogas to A through G and I through M. Antiquo to H (California). It's

time for the Senate to appoint a new person there

  • MIP: VTI ROGAS
  • ECF: Uti rogas from A to G and from I to M. Antiquo to H (California). It would

be good to find an active propraetor for this provincia.

  • ATMC - UTI ROGAS
  • LAF: VTI ROGAS. although I think he would have really considered pass to

another citizen, due to the burden of the consulship this year.

  • CFBQ: Uti Rogas
  • FAC: VTI ROGAS
  • CSA - I vote in favour.
  • MAM: Uti Rogas.
  • AMA: Uti Rogas to all with gratitude.
  • SAS: Uti Rogas.
  • CMM - Vti rogas I vote to appoint all nominated individuals above to govern

provinces

  • ATS: Vtí rogás, though this is, as one of the honored senatores had noted, a

heavy burden in conjunction with the cónsulátus.

  • GEC: Uti Rogas

33 Uti Rogas: Tiberius Galerius Paulinus is appointed as proconsul of AMERICA MEDIATLANTICA

2l. Marcus Minucius Audens as proconsul of NOVA BRITANNIA

  • QSP - UTI ROGAS
  • MOG: UTI ROGAS.
  • GEM: Uti Rogas, with my thanks for his long years of service.
  • TGP - VTI ROGAS
  • JSM: UTI ROGAS
  • LMS - Uti Rogas to all EXCEPT: point 2.h. (California) which I vote Antiquo, and

point 2.m (Hispania) which I vote Abstineo. Besides, I'm no longer Didius Geminus, but Minicius. Yahoo messing up...

  • CFD: Uti Rogas
  • PC: UTI ROGAS to all.
  • MMA- "a" through "m" except for "h"-- YES;

I have made an error in my vote. I voted to Abstain my vote for Senator Maximus as a governor. I want to change that error to read: "YES" for Governor Maximus and to "ABSTAIN" for Governor Marcus Audens. My thanks to Senator Maximus for alerting me to my error. My apologies for any difficulty that this error has caused.

  • LECA - VTI ROGAS
  • LSA: Uti Rogas
  • PMS -UTI ROGAS
  • MMPH - UTI ROGAS
  • QFM - VTI ROGAS to all
  • TOPA: UTI ROGAS to a through g and i through m.
  • GFBM: Uti Rogas
  • GPL - Uti Rogas to all.
  • MBA : UTI ROGAS
  • DIPI: Uti rogas to all
  • CCS: Uti rogas to A through G and I through M. Antiquo to H (California). It's

time for the Senate to appoint a new person there

  • MIP: VTI ROGAS
  • ECF: Uti rogas from A to G and from I to M. Antiquo to H (California). It would

be good to find an active propraetor for this provincia.

  • ATMC - UTI ROGAS
  • LAF: VTI ROGAS
  • CFBQ: Uti Rogas
  • FAC: VTI ROGAS He is an example for us as man and as governor
  • CSA - I vote in favour.
  • MAM: Uti Rogas.
  • AMA: Uti Rogas to all with gratitude.
  • SAS: Uti Rogas.
  • CMM - Vti rogas I vote to appoint all nominated individuals above to govern

provinces

  • ATS: Vtí rogás.
  • GEC: Uti Rogas

32 Uti Rogas and 1 Abstineo: Marcus Minucius Audens is appointed as proconsul of NOVA BRITANNIA.

2m. Lucius Didius Geminus Sceptius as propraetor of HISPANIA

  • QSP - UTI ROGAS
  • MOG: UTI ROGAS.
  • GEM: Uti Rogas. Lucius Didius continues to serve the Republic and his province

well. Few outside Hispania realize just how much he does.

  • TGP - VTI ROGAS
  • JSM: UTI ROGAS
  • LMS - Uti Rogas to all EXCEPT: point 2.h. (California) which I vote Antiquo, and

point 2.m (Hispania) which I vote Abstineo. Besides, I'm no longer Didius Geminus, but Minicius. Yahoo messing up...

  • CFD: Uti Rogas
  • PC: UTI ROGAS to all.
  • MMA- "a" through "m" except for "h"-- YES;
  • LECA - VTI ROGAS
  • LSA: Uti Rogas
  • PMS -UTI ROGAS
  • MMPH - UTI ROGAS
  • QFM - VTI ROGAS to all
  • TOPA: UTI ROGAS to a through g and i through m.
  • GFBM: Uti Rogas
  • GPL - Uti Rogas to all.
  • MBA : UTI ROGAS
  • DIPI: Uti rogas to all
  • CCS: Uti rogas to A through G and I through M. Antiquo to H (California). It's

time for the Senate to appoint a new person there

  • MIP: VTI ROGAS

ECF: Uti rogas from A to G and from I to M. Antiquo to H (California). It would be good to find an active propraetor for this provincia.

  • ATMC - UTI ROGAS
  • LAF: VTI ROGAS
  • CFBQ: Uti Rogas
  • FAC: VTI ROGAS I see again great projects for Hispania.
  • CSA - I abstain.
  • MAM: Uti Rogas.
  • AMA: Uti Rogas to all with gratitude.
  • SAS: Uti Rogas.
  • CMM - Vti rogas I vote to appoint all nominated individuals above to govern

provinces

  • ATS: Vtí rogás, though the gentleman has pointed out that his nomen is now

Minicius (as it has been for some time), not the historically-inaccurate and linguistically impossible Didius Geminus. His correct name is thus L. Minicius Sceptius.

  • GEC: Uti Rogas

31 Uti Rogas and 2 Abstineo: Lucius Minicius Sceptius is appointed as propraetor of HISPANIA


Item III - De consulibus et proconsulibus

Proposal

In keeping with the authority granted to the Senate by Article III, Paragraph 3, of the Constitution, (Please note that this is a change only to their title, and has no impact on their duties, powers, and functions). Currently-serving Consuls governing provinces shall be titled Consul. Former Consuls who are continuing to govern a province after their term as Consul ends shall be titled Proconsul. Magistrates appointed by the Senate to govern a particular province for the first time shall be titled Praetor. Praetors who continue to govern a province after their first term of office ends shall be titled Propraetor.

Magistrates appointed by governors to assist in the administration of their province who shares the governor´s imperium shall be titled Legate.


Votes and opinions

  • QSP - UTI ROGAS
  • MOG: ANTIQUO.
  • GEM: Antiquo. Only the Comitia Centuriata may make a Praetor. Thus I can not

support this proposal.

  • TGP - VTI ROGAS This simply adds the new title of Italy to the

current SC on titles

  • JSM: UTI ROGAS
  • LMS: Uti Rogas
  • CFD: Uti Rogas
  • PC: ANTIQUO
  • MMA -- YES;
  • LECA - VTI ROGAS
  • LSA: Antiquo

Comment: There seems to be a flaw in this in that the Senate should not be empowered to appoint someone to be a praetor. Beyond that, this seemingly endless topic of seeking exactly the "right" title for every position seems to be a great waste of time and energy.

  • PMS –ANTIQUO
  • MMPH - UTI ROGAS
  • QFM – ANTIQVO. Ironic since I pushed for this. But I believe we must reword it

better.

  • TOPA: ANTIQUO. It is dangerous calling governators Praetors without a law or

preferably constitutional amendment to separate them from the "real" Praetors.

  • GFBM: Antiquo. I would prefer the usage of something other than Praetor.
  • GPL - Antiquo. As has been pointed out, only the people can create a praetor.
  • MBA : ANTIQUO
  • DIPI: ANTIQUO. Marinus is right, the senate can not make a praetor, only give

propraetorian powers, thus the use of the term "propraetor" during previous years.

  • CCS: Antiquo
  • MIP: VTI ROGAS
  • ECF: Antiquo
  • ATMC - ANTIQUO
  • LAF: VTI ROGAS - This Senatusconsultum changes nothing, just titles.
  • CFBQ: Antiquo
  • FAC: VTI ROGAS
  • CSA - I vote in favour.
  • MAM: Abstineo.
  • AMA: Antiquo.
  • SAS: Uti Rogas.
  • CMM - Nego I vote not to approve the senatusconsultum now, understanding that

the language differentiating praetor and propraetor will be developed for resubmission.

  • ATS: Antiquó. As proposed here, the title praetor seems inaccurate and

inappropriate.

  • GEC: Antiquo. I prefer the usage of the available (and historic) terminology

rather than than "praetor".

13 Uti Rogas, 1 Abstineo and 19 Antiquo: Senatusconsultum not passed


Item IV - De Italia

Proposal

The attribute "province" is removed from the description of Italy within Nova Roma.

It will be govern as a province under the rules adopted by the Senate but will be called Italia.

The "governor" of Italy shall be called Praefectus Italiae. If a sitting Consul or Praetor resides in Italy and they serve as "governor" on behalf of the Senate of Nova Roma they shall be called Consul or Praetor.


Votes and opinions

  • QSP - UTI ROGAS
  • MOG: UTI ROGAS.
  • GEM: Uti Rogas.
  • TGP - VTI ROGAS
  • JSM: UTI ROGAS
  • LMS: Uti Rogas
  • CFD: Antiquo The proposal has it´s ancient roots in times later than that of

the republic we try to reconstruct. More important for me is that we need a territorial organization adequate to our internet-based micornational character. Italia is de facto a province and should de facto bear the title of a province. A province is governed by a promagistrate, the titles we adjusted above. Some adjustments to our current times and structures are necessary.

  • PC: UTI ROGAS.
  • MMA -- NO;I had originally thought to approve this item, but the arguments against it are,

to me, quite telling. This decision of mine, has nothing to do with personalities –MMA

  • LECA - VTI ROGAS
  • LSA: Antiquo Comment: There appears to be no real reason for this proposal other

than that it will make the Italians feel good. If that's a motive, perhaps we should make all citizens everywhere feel good by dropping the term "province" from the titles of all regions of Nova Roma.

  • PMS -UTI ROGAS
  • MMPH - UTI ROGAS
  • QFM - ANTIQVO

Italia should be an equal to all provinces. To single her out just because she contains Rome is silly and sets a precedent.

  • TOPA: UTI ROGAS.
  • GFBM: Uti Rogas.
  • GPL- Antiquo. I agree with Senators Australicus, Cincinnatus, and Diocletianus.
  • MBA : UTI ROGAS. I like the idea of honouring Italia, for they are the home of

Rome.

  • DIPI: Antiquo
  • CCS: Uti rogas. Many thanks for our Consules for making this change!
  • MIP: VTI ROGAS
  • ECF: Uti rogas. This is a great improvement to our credibility.
  • ATMC - UTI ROGAS
  • LAF: VTI ROGAS, we cannot deny this honour to Italia
  • CFBQ: Uti Rogas
  • FAC: VTI ROGAS
  • CSA - I vote in favour. It was due time that this old reivindication of our

Italian co-citizens be recognized.

  • MAM: Abstineo.
  • AMA: Uti Rogas
  • SAS: Uti Rogas.
  • CMM - Vti rogas I vote to honor Italia in this way.
  • ATS: Vtí rogás
  • GEC: Uti Rogas

26 Uti Rogas, 1 Abstineo and 6 Antiquo: Senatusconsultum passed


Item V - de regendis provinciis

Proposal

I. The SenatusConsultum of 11 March 2001 is hereby revoked. For all purposes of this text, the English word "governor" replaces the Latin terms "propraetor" or "proconsul". In the absence of the consuls, these instructions should be followed by the magistrate with the highest Imperium available granted by the Republic (such as the praetor, dictator or interrex). II. At the beginning of their terms of office, but prior to the Ides of February, the consuls are asked to issue an edictum calling for the governors for the upcoming year. The consuls will be responsible for setting the period during which applications will be taken in accordance with their planning of the Senate's agenda. III. The term of a governor starts immediately after issuance of the Senate results of the approvals on the Main List. The term of a governor ends with that of a new governor for the province (or the same, in case of prorogation ) or on the Ides (15th) of March, or whichever happens first. Any change before the term is the responsibility of the Senate. IV. For provinces with a budget at their disposal, the Senate asks the consuls to choose one of the quaestors to help the governor in making jointly the report of expenses. The consuls shall take geographic and cultural patterns into account for making the assignment. V. The Senate asks the consuls to not accept candidates that are not allowed by NR law to become governors. If a current governor fails to send the Senate the financial report of the province (if needed) by the time for calling of new governors, the Senate advises the consuls not to accept the name of this citizen for prorogation.


Votes and opinions

  • QSP - UTI ROGAS to all.
  • MOG: UTI ROGAS.
  • GEM: Uti Rogas.
  • TGP – Abstain
  • JSM: UTI ROGAS
  • LMS: Uti Rogas
  • CFD: Abstino.
  • PC: UTI ROGAS.
  • MMA -- YES;
  • LECA - VTI ROGAS
  • LSA: Abstineo
  • PMS –ABSTAIN
  • MMPH - UTI ROGAS
  • QFM - ANTIQVO

While I under stand what this is suppose to say, it’s badly written and needs revision

  • TOPA: UTI ROGAS.
  • GFBM: Uti Rogas.
  • GPL :Uti Rogas
  • MBA: UTI ROGAS. I like this. It clears the way for more accurate titles.
  • DIPI: Abstineo
  • CCS: Uti rogas.
  • MIP: VTI ROGAS
  • ECF: Uti rogas
  • ATMC – ABSTAIN
  • LAF: VTI ROGAS, it makes things clearer
  • CFBQ: Uti Rogas
  • FAC: VTI ROGAS
  • CSA - I vote in favour
  • MAM: Abstineo.
  • AMA: Uti Rogas
  • SAS: Uti Rogas.
  • CMM - Vti rogas I vote to adopt this senatusconsultum.
  • ATS: Vtí rogás, though not without some hesitation.
  • GEC: Uti Rogas

25 Uti Rogas, 7 Abstineo and 1 Antiquo: Senatusconsultum passed.


Item VI - de Aquila


Proposal

The Senate authorizes the Editor Commentariorum, Ap. Galerius Aurelianus, to solicit subscriptions, in an amount determined by him but not exceeding $20.00USD per subscription for a printed Aquila Newsletter." Individuals may if the like make donations in addition to taking out a subscription.

He is further authorized to solicit donations to off-set the costs of publishing the Aquila newsletter for the year L. Arminio Ti. Galerio cos. The number of copies, per issue, to be printed shall be determined by the Editor Commentariorum, with the advice of his staff and advisors, based on the cost of production, delivery and the amount of money collected.

The Senate requires that 2/3 of the total cost of the newsletter be covered by direct subscriptions and / or donations. No more than 1/3 of the total cost will be covered by the Nova Roma treasury.

The Editor Commentariorum, Ap. Galerius Aurelianus, will also publish or cause to be published, a free web version of the Aquila newsletter. He shall do so in a manner determined by him


Votes and opinions

  • QSP - UTI ROGAS
  • MOG: UTI ROGAS. A printed newsletter is desperately needed for our credibility,

else were are nothing more than a collection of mailing lists and web sites. We don't need yet another web site; we need a newsletter.

  • GEM: Uti Rogas, with the caution that the Editor Commentariorum must strive to

cover all operating costs with paid subscription fees. The 1/3 amount specified in the text is an upper bound, and not something that he should consider 'money in the bank.'

  • TGP - VTI ROGAS
  • JSM: UTI ROGAS
  • LMS: Abstineo
  • CFD: Uti Rogas
  • PC: ANTIQUO. More needs to be known about the financial aspects of this move,

and whether we have the volunteers available to do the work of producing, printing and mailing this Aquila.

  • MMA --YES; I had originally thought to disapprove of this issue because of the

mention of allotting NR funding to support it. However, I agree with those who seek a more specific and detailed item signifying NR to the outside world. I believe this newsletter will help in this effort.

  • LECA - VTI ROGAS
  • LSA: Uti Rogas
  • PMS - ANTIQUO I believe we should be doing the audit first before awarding any

monies, except for a strict emergency situation. Moreover, I would like to know a figure of how much is being requested of the Senate as opposed to a given percentage of the costs.

  • MMPH - UTI ROGAS
  • QFM – VTI ROGAS
  • TOPA: ANTIQUO. Put in an upper limit as to how much the third that Nova Roma is

supposed to cover may be, otherwise I'm in support.

  • GFBM: Uti Rogas. However, I don't think our publications need take any money

from our treasury. I believe they can be self-sufficient.

  • GPL :Uti Rogas
  • MBA: UTI ROGAS.
  • DIPI: Uti rogas. It will be good to see a hard copy of the Eagle again.
  • CCS: Antiquo.
  • MIP: ABSTINEO
  • ECF: Antiquo. A fixed sum would be more preferable.
  • ATMC - UTI ROGAS
  • LAF: ABSTINEO, I said once we should not approve anything without a detailed

budget. I miss one on this case. Once, the Aquila budget administration was a disaster. So, for approve without doubt, It would be very suitable an detailed budget.

  • CFBQ: Antiquo
  • FAC: VTI ROGAS
  • CSA - I vote in favour
  • MAM: Abstineo.
  • AMA: Uti Rogas
  • SAS: Uti Rogas.
  • CMM - Vti rogas I vote to adopt this senatusconsultum.
  • ATS: Abstineó.
  • GEC: Uti Rogas

22 Uti Rogas, 5 Abstineo and 6 Antiquo: Senatusconsultum passed.


Item VII - Contio about 2/3 (no vote)


Topic

"Last year, the subject of the 2/3 of the Senate needed to approve a constitutional reform has been touched due to many doubts of interpretation. There was some division of opinions between the magistrates. The question remained unsolved, and some senatores asked the current consuls to continue the subject.

There is currently two interpretations of the law, both with merits. According to the historical procedures of Ancient Rome, and obeying the seniority of the conscript fathers, we invite all senatores to discuss the question, on the hope some light can be better brought to the subject. There is no voting, just a refreshment of the question.

One interpretation says the text of the Constitution means "2/3 of the entire Senate" means all citizens entitled to vote in the Senate.

The other means "2/3 of the entire Senate" means all voting senatores , ie, by "Senate" is recognized the senatores present to a voting.

So we invite the senatores to give their opinions during the voting.

We hope the fathers understand everything on the Republic can be accomplished with a powerful agreement, and we together can reach to a reasonable and republican approach.


Opinions

QSP - I would rather have a straight vote passed by numbers rather than the 2/3 formula. I think the 2/3 system could be stifling and frustrating, slowing things down; also, more often than not there are always 5 or 6 senators who do not make the voting and that does not help at all.

MOG - The Constitution is broken. The author never foresaw a Senate with a high absentee rate. Either the Constitution needs to be fixed so that a 2/3rds majority of voting Senators (when a quorum is present) are sufficient, or we're going to have to start tossing people out of the Senate if we ever want to be able to make any changes.

GEM - The text of the Constitution is clear. 2/3 of all the persons enrolled in the Album Senatorium must vote in favor of a Constitutional Amendment for it to pass. I recommend that Censors M. Octavius Gracchus and C. Fabius Buteo Modianus exercise their constitutionally granted authority to remove inactive senators from the Album Senatorium as quickly as possible, in order to preserve the effectiveness of this Senate.

TGP Our constitution has clauses that are at times contradictorily. This is not one of those times. I believe that the only way one can interpret the constitution is to look at its plain language . "2/3 of the entire Senate" means "2/3 of the entire Senate"

JSM - The constitution should be modified only in extreme circumstances. A policy regarding absenteeism of senatores ought to be developed and rigorously applied.

LSM - I support a 2/3 of the voting senators. If there are people who doesn't care about what is under voting at any moment on the organization they belong to, and give no proxy or representation, they can be count as "mind absence" people. So only 2/3 of the people who really care and participate.

CFD: I prefer a historical argumentation. In ancient times many Senators were unable to be present in Senate sessions due to commitments overseas, in wars acting as officers, in diplomatic missions, as provincial magistrates. This means that our ancient forefathers had a Senate which was imho quite never complete. Today a simple network breakdown can cut more than one Senator off communication, that´s comparable for me. The 2/3 quorum can in my opinion only be counted from the Senators present at a specific session.

PC: I agree with the Constitution as currently written.

MMA (no vote) -- I do not agree that the Constitution is unclear on this question. It is quite clear to me, and the concern lies in two areas. The first, and most important one, to my thought, is the responsibility of the Senators so appointed. It is a significant honor to be elected to this office or to be appointed by one's peers. It also has a significant responsibility. If any Senator is not concerned about the responsibility he or she should be removed from that position. The second concern is the problem of communication methodology. Yahoo has not in the past proven to be so exact in their support that I should be willing to dismiss a Senator solely on the basis of Yahoo's message delivery record. Two items to consider in this question.

LECA - The Constitution stipulates 2/3 of the ENTIRE Senate must vote to ratify any change to it. It does not say anything other than that, not "of those who vote", not "minus those who abstain", et cetera. There is only one *Honest* interpretation of the statement, "... such alterations to this Constitution must be ratified by a vote of two-thirds of the entire Senate before they shall take effect...", any less than 2/3's of the entire Senate voting to ratify is not enough to pass an amendment/change. What should be done? Let the system work for once, BEFORE monkeying around with it.

Why is it that each new administration is in such a rush to make changes? We've been through this drill many times the past years and I haven't honestly seen any changes that have made Nova Roma better, more complicated, but not better.

LSA - comment: It is my opinion that this provision of the Constitution should remain unaltered and should be understood to mean what it clearly says - that 2/3 of all the members of the Senate must approve a change to the Constitution. Senators not participating for an extended period of time should be removed by the Censors.

PMS - I do not see the ambiguity in current constitutional language itself...For years it has been unquestioned as meaning 2/3 of this entire senate , just as it reads. This 2/3 has shown to be attainable in the past when Senators have voted regularly. I, with other Senators, think it is time to tighten the criteria of participation for Senators to maintain their positions among this august body.

MMPH – No comments

QFM - This is a vote with no division possible. But for informative purposes it is very apparent that 2/3rds of the ENTIRE appointed SENATE must vote to ratify any change to this Constitution. Other wise it would read “ THOSE SENATORS PRESENT” in the text. So to make it official: VTI ROGAS to the interpretation that the vote must pass with 2/3rds of the entire Senate. Not just those Senators present.

TOPA: UTI ROGAS - as I believe the phrase would have interpreted by the Romans and how I believe it should be used. If it cannot be interpreted that way, I am for a constitutional amendment to the same effect.

GFBM: I agree with M. Octavius Gracchus in that there are problems in our constitution. There are also too many senators who don't vote. If someone is a senator and doesn't have the time or interest they need to let the Censores know about it so they can be removed. I think the constitution does indicate 2/3 of the whole senate, but I think this should be changed.

GPL : It seems to me the Constitution is very clear. A 2/3rds vote of the entire Senate is required.

MBA: After reviewing the constitution, I am of the belief that 2/3 of the entire Senate means just that. We, as Senators, need to be responsible and vote. I missed one vote at the beginning of last year and I still feel that I violated a trust that was given to me.

DIPI - (No vote required.) There is no ambiguity in the constitution on this matter. It clearly states votes of 2/3rds of the *entire* senate is required to pass a constitutional amendment, not 2/3rds of those voting.

This has never really been a problem before last year, so perhaps part of the issue was last year's leadership. In the past, if consuls were afraid of not getting enough votes, they would lobby senators privately and in the senate, saying why a vote was important and why a senator's vote was important and needed. They would lead.

As for high absenteeism of late, again it may be an issue of last year's leadership. It may also be due to the cheapening of the senate the year before that, when 11 or 12 people were added (increasing our numbers by about 1/3) to the senate in one year by the censores. That stacking of the senate made it much more difficult to add worthy people to the senate in following years because of the required senator to assidui ratio. It made the title of senator mean less and may have encouraged people to stay away from this chamber more than they would have.

CCS - Uti rogas. Senator Pius has already pointed out same comments I intended too.

MIP: VTI ROGAS

ECF: Uti rogas.

ATMC – No comments

LAF: Since the ancient roman senatores never ever counted missing senatores, I believe the constitution means 2/3 of the voting senatores. Anyway, I urge the Senate to consider even more ´draconian´ measures to keep citizens on the album Senatorium.

CFBQ - o change he Constitution to only include the voting Senatores in the 2/3 is both historical and practical. Although I encourage the Censores to get rid of Senatores who haven't voted for three times in a row, without asking for leave or having medical reasons.

FAC: No comments

CSA - Any "2/3 formula" will necessarily be historically inaccurate. I'd advocate for getting rid of this modernism altogether.

MAM: Abstineo.

AMA: I agree with the constitution as it is currently written, that 2/3 of all the persons enrolled in the Album Senatorium must vote.

SAS: Any such formula will not be accurate historically.

CMM - For the purpose of constitutional amendment only, the quorum should in my opinion remain 2/3 of the entire senate, not only of senators casting votes in session. To amend the constitution should be a rarity, and therefore, provisions aren't needed to facilitate it. For all other business, a simple majority of votes cast, discarding "abstineo", should determine the outcome. In this way, the senate can move forward while preserving the structure of Nova Roma's institutions.

ATS: For what it is worth, I cannot see how we can fail to interpret this as meaning two-thirds of all members considered part of the senate. Clearly, however, if paralysis is a problem because too few of the enrolled members vote, some pruning of inactive members should be done. Perhaps there could be senátórés émerití who would not count toward the total.

GEC: I believe the lex Constitutiva should be left as it is.


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