Session XXXVIII 25 September 2755

This is a report of a session of the Nova Roma Senate of a.d. VII Kal. Oct. ‡, M. Octavio L. Sulla (II) cos. ‡ MMDCCLV a.u.c..

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Senate action for 25 September 2755 as posted in the “old Tabularium” Tiberius Galerius Paulinus, Censor 10 August 2761 A.V.C.

Salvete Omnes

Senate voting results, 25 September 2755.

The Senate has finished its latest session, and the votes have been tallied, as below. The following 15 Senatores cast votes. They are referred to below by their initials, and are listed in alphabetical order by nomen:

• Marcus Arminius Maior (MAM)
• Marcus Cassius Julianus (MCJ)
• Patricia Cassia (PC)
• Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix (LCSF)
• Pompeia Cornelia Strabo (PCS)
• Lucius Equitius Cincinnatus (LEC)
• Caeso Fabius Quintilianus (CFQ)
• Quintus Fabius Maximus (QFM)
• Caius Flavius Diocletianus (CFD)
• Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus (DIPI)
• Titus Labienus Fortunatus (TLF)
• Gaius Marius Merullus (GMM)
• Marcus Minucius Audens (MMA)
• Marcus Octavius Germanicus (MOG)
• Lucius Sergius Australicus Obstinatus (LSAO)

Senator Alexander Iulius Caesar Probus Macedonius (AICPM) forwarded his proxy to Senator Marcus Minucius Audens.

The following senators did not vote:

• Antonius Gryllus Graecus
• Minervina Iucundia Flavia
• Marcus Iunius Iulianus
• Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato
• Gaius Tullius Triumphius Cicero

"UTI ROGAS" indicates a vote in favor of an item, "ANTIQUO" or "NEGAT" is a vote against, and "ABSTINEO" is an abstention.

The items for consideration are as follows:

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ITEM I. Appointment of Aurelia Iulia Pulchra as Italian translator. PASSED Unanimously: Uti Rogas, 16; Negat, 0; Abstineo, 0.

• MAM: UTI ROGAS.
• MCJ: UTI ROGAS. I feel that Aurelia Iulia Pulchra has

shown herself to be both skilled and dedicated, and I believe she will do a fine job as Italian Translator.

• PC: UTI ROGAS.
• LCSF: UTI ROGAS.
• PCS: UTI ROGAS.
• LEC: UTI ROGAS.
• CFQ: Uti Rogas. I am happy that we still get people

willing to hard and "dirty" work for Nova Roma.

• QFM: UTI ROGAS.
• CFD: UTI ROGAS.
• AICPM: UTI ROGAS.
• DIPI: UTI ROGAS.
• TLF: UTI ROGAS.
• GMM: UTI ROGAS.
• MMA: UTI ROGAS.
• MOG: UTI ROGAS.
• LSAO: UTI ROGAS.

- Citizen Aurelia Iulia Pulchra is now the official Italian Interpreter (Translator).

ITEM II. Preliminary approval to take Cassius/Labienus gens reform proposal to Comitia Centuriata.

VETOED by Consul L. Cornelius Sulla, voting prohibited.

• MCJ: It is unfortunate that this veto has been

interposed. This issue has been a periodic problem for over two years now, and must be decided. We cannot ignore this issue forever.

• LEC: Too bad we can't vote now. Most of the Senate

wants a vote, and the outcome would be unclear. Gens reform needs to be addressed if Nova Roma is to experience continued healthy growth. Right now we are being stunted by the inability of the Censores to approve those applications to gens whose "Paterfamilias" has either closed their gens or refuse/neglect to respond to pending application. The constitution needs to be adjusted to allow prospective citizens the same chance to have the nomen they desire as those who happened to find Nova Roma somewhat earlier.

• QFM: I still feel this is a premature action do be

done at the end of a Consulship. We have not even carried out the Census yet. I believe once that is done, we will be in a better position to carry out the Gens dissolution.

• MMA: It is unfortunate that the Jr. Consul has taken

upon himself to decide for the entire Senate, what they shall vote upon and what they shall not. The whole question of Gens Reform should be one which is discussed openly, and be available to all for thier determinations and thier vote. Unfortunate indeed, when a Consul Veto is used to defeat such!!

ITEM III. Restructure annual membership fees to be proportional to national per capita GDP. [ As the author of Item III, I now recommend you vote AGAINST it; we can put forth a slightly adjusted version with better numbers later. Cos. M. Octavius Germanicus. ] NOT PASSED: Uti Rogas, 0; Negat, 16; Abstineo, 0.

• MAM: UTI ROGAS.
• MCJ: ANTIQVO, as per the authors wishes. I expect that

this item will be adjusted and presented again in the next Senate vote.

• PC: ANTIQUO.
• LCSF: ANTIQUO.
• PCS: NEGAT. As has been revealed...the current

proposal as read is not quite as equitable as one might think on first view. I am hoping that this can be adjusted by the end of the year.

• LEC: ANTIQUO.
• CFQ: ANTIQUO. I would have liked to see the proposal

withdrawn, but as it is now I will vote against

• QFM: ANTIQUO. The proposal needs more work. To vote

now, would mean fixing it again later.

• CFD: ANTIQUO. As wished by our Senior Consul. I´m

looking forward to his proposal, and I see this point as a very important one for our res publica and our citizens.

• AICPM: ANTIQUO.
• DIPI: ANTIQUO.
• TLF: ANTIQUO.
• GMM: ANTIQUO. I vote against adopting this tax measure

in its presented form but recognize good elements in the proposal and look forward to seeing them re-worked into a better form.

• MMA: ANTIQUO.
• MOG: ANTIQUO. A good plan in general, but the numbers

need adjusting, and I hope to introduce something similar in a month or two.

• LSAO: ANTIQUO.

ITEM IV. Approval of candidacy for Quaestor of Manius Constantinus Serapio. PASSED: Uti Rogas, 14; Negat, 2; Abstineo, 0.

• MAM: UTI ROGAS.
• MCJ: UTI ROGAS. I believe that Manius Constantinus

Serapio fully meets all qualifications under which the Senate should approve such a candidacy.

• PC: UTI ROGAS. This gentleman has been with us for a

considerable time, has shown dedication and is not far off from the legal age for candidacy.

• LCSF: ANTIQUO. My vote has nothing to do with the

worthiness of Manius Constantinus, my vote has to do with the law and its careful consideration. I am certain that once Manius Constantinus is of age he will be an asset to Nova Roma.

• PCS: UTI ROGAS.
• LEC: UTI ROGAS.
• CFQ: UTI ROGAS. I supported the right of Honorable

Manius Constantinus Serapio earlier this year. Now I have had the honor to meet him in person in Belgium at the Nova Roman Rally of 2755, there the impression he made earlier of being a very honorable, hard-working and capable citizen grew even stronger. I will continue to support this citizen as I think that he is that kind of person we need among the magistrates of the Res Publica. I say grant Honorable Manius Constantinus Serapio the exemption in order to run for the position of Quaestor during the next elections.

• QFM: ANTIQUO. Manius Constantinus is a fine young man,

but the Law is the Law. If we do not have the requisite number of Quaestors, I will reconsider my position, but we do not even know who is standing yet.

• CFD: UTI ROGAS.
• AICPM: UTI ROGAS.
• DIPI: UTI ROGAS.
• TLF: UTI ROGAS.
• GMM: VTI ROGAS. I think that age requirements can be

waived for this entry-level office, when candidates demonstrate good faith. I vote to waive them in this case.

• MMA: UTI ROGAS. Yes the law is the law, but the right

to decide over and above the law is given to the Senators of Nova Roma, in this instance, to decide as the specifics of the candidacy of the applicants shall indicate. This allowance is provided so that various valued elements may be considered and evaluated by men and women of honor, in the Senate, who have the best interests of Nova Roma in thier heart. If such were not so, the allowance would not be permitted. Serapio has proven himself many times over, and I will respond to one Senator that Master Serapio will not be a valued Citizen in the future, because he has been a very very valued citizen in NR for some time.

• MOG: UTI ROGAS. He's done an exceptional amount of

work already, is well-suited for the office; let us not deny it to him just for being born four weeks late!

• LSAO: UTI ROGAS.

- Citizen Manius Constantius Serapio can present their candidature to the elections of this year.

ITEM V. Policy on the surrender of elected/appointed offices upon resignation of citizenship and subsequent retraction of resignation. PASSED: Uti Rogas, 14; Negat, 2; Abstineo, 0.

• MAM: UTI ROGAS.
• MCJ: UTI ROGAS. I feel that this is a good item - it

allows office holders a chance to reconsider a hasty decision... but only once. The 'one time' rule ensures that this opportunity will not be continually abused for political ends.

• PC: UTI ROGAS.
• LCSF: UTI ROGAS. I wish this law is binding on every

magistrate in Nova Roma, however it is not. There is no way that this is binding on the Plebs unless the Tribunes take the initiative and promulgate this. I would be very happy to bring this endorsed SC to the People in my upcoming term as Consul (in the Comitia Populi and Comitia Centuriata), and I hope that our Tribunes will also promulgate this in the Comitia Plebis.

• PCS: UTI ROGAS.
• LEC: UTI ROGAS, though I really think that the

resignation should be effective immediately this is better than no policy, or allowing things to be held in limbo for longer.

• CFQ: UTI ROGAS. This seems more than fair even better

that the old Edictum.

• QFM: VTI ROGAS. I really believe resignations should

be immediate, in order to make them important decisions rather then whims. However this is satisfactory.

• CFD: UTI ROGAS.
• AICPM: ANTIQUO.
• DIPI: UTI ROGAS This is a fair policy and well thought out.
• TLF: UTI ROGAS.
• GMM: UTI ROGAS.
• MMA: ANTIQUO. I oppose this as I believe it to be

simply a sop to any who cannot make up thier mind to conduct elected / appointed offices in NR in accordance with thier Oath.

• MOG: UTI ROGAS.
• LSAO: UTI ROGAS.

ITEM VI. Appointment of G. Cassius Nerva as Propraetor for Mediatlantica. PASSED Unanimously: Uti Rogas, 16; Negat, 0; Abstineo, 0.

MAM: UTI ROGAS.

• MCJ: UTI ROGAS. I believe that Nerva cares deeply

about getting Mediatlantica Provincia more active, and will do excellent work toward that end.

• PC: Uti rogas (yes). Nerva has shown dedication to NR

and to learning. This province has many members and needs a focal point to coordinate greater activity. I wish him and Mediatlantica good fortune.

• LCSF: UTI ROGAS. I have always been a friend and

support of Nerva. I am glad he has volunteerd to help his provincia.

• PCS: UTI ROGAS.
• LEC: UTI ROGAS, I've meet Nerva a few times and I

think he'll do a fine job as he is a man who takes his responsibilities seriously. I don't think people understand his posts concerning "extremist views", Nerva never held those views to my observation.

• CFQ: UTI ROGAS. As I have said before, I have seen

this citizen develop and hopefully change. I do hope that this is for ever. I am not sure however, but I do accept that he gets a chance. I will act very fast if I get the impression that he still holds on to his old extremist views. But, as I said before, I love to give people new chances, so I vote ...UTI ROGAS

• QFM: VTI ROGAS. I've meet G. Cassius and spent three

hours with him in drives to Mediatlantica. Cassius like to play the devil's advocate which as Festus a role he enjoyed. But he never really believed his own rhetoric, only using it to point out others foibles. Because he is a military man he'll do a superior job as he takes his duties most seriously.

• CFD: UTI ROGAS. Not an easy decision for me. I

remember some doubtful posts by him, and a longer time I considered to vote against him. But I also do not deny many reasonable posts. I don´t want to base my decision on things in the past, and I´m sure that he´s able and dedicated for the office of governor.

• AICPM: UTI ROGAS.
• DIPI: UTI ROGAS. Having met this Nova Roman and been

quite impressed with him.

• TLF: UTI ROGAS.
• GMM: UTI ROGAS.
• MMA: UTI ROGAS. G.C.Nerva has served me well as an

advisor when I was a Consul, and further he has rendered service on the staff of the Province of Nova Britannia even though he lives in another province. I have met him on several occasions and I believe that he has the best interests of Nova Roma and his Provincia at heart. He has generated excellent ideas in the past and I believe will do so in the future.

• MOG: UTI ROGAS.
• LSAO: UTI ROGAS.

- Citizen Gaius Cassius Nerva is the Propraetor of Provincia Mediatlantica.

ITEM VII. Sponsorship of Legio XIV G.M.V. Cohort I of Wisconsin. PASSED: Uti Rogas, 15; Negat, 0; Abstineo, 1.

• MAM: ABSTINEO.
• MCJ: UTI ROGAS. It is great to see another Legion

interested in sponsorship. The Legions make an excellent 'nucleus' for any public Roman gathering - they please the crowds and do fine work toward historical education. I would very much like to see at least one active Legio in every Provincie someday - if not more!

• PC: UTI ROGAS. I am pleased with what I have read of

this group and hope our relationship may be of mutual benefit.

• LCSF: UTI ROGAS.
• PCS: UTI ROGAS.
• LEC: UTI ROGAS.
• CFQ: UTI ROGAS. As I have said before: Anything

supported by Sodalitas Militarium is good enough for me.

• QFM: UTI ROGAS.
• CFD: UTI ROGAS.
• AICPM: UTI ROGAS.
• DIPI: UTI ROGAS.
• TLF: UTI ROGAS.
• GMM: UTI ROGAS.
• MMA: UTI ROGAS.
• MOG: UTI ROGAS.
• LSAO: UTI ROGAS.

- Legio XIV is now sponsored by Nova Roma.

Valete Marcus Arminius Maior Tribunus Plebis