Session November 2766

Should the arrangement for compensation for the sale of the book(s) compiled by L. Vitellus Triarius be based on the following percentage?
1. 80% Nova Roma vs 20% to Triarius
2. 50% Nova Roma vs 50% to Triarius
3. 20% Nova Roma vs 80% to Triarius

The following 7 senators or voting members of the Senate did not cast a vote or did not cast a vote on time:

• M. Cassius Julianus
• L. Equitius Cincinnatus Augur
• Ti. Galerius Paulinus
• M. Minucius Audens
• C. Petronius Dexter
• P. Ullerius Stephanus Venator
• C. Vipsanius Agrippa

In the voting results shown below "Uti Rogas" indicates a vote in favor of an item, "Antiquo" is a vote against, and "Abstineo" is an open abstention.

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Item I - Renaming the Provinces Established from the previous senate session

Proposal

This will be the new province names for the American Provinces:

I - Arizona, Nevada and Utah will be known as: Provincia America Deserta
II - New Mexico and Colorado will be known as: Provincia America Hispanica
III - Texas and Oklahoma will be known as: Provincia America Texia
IV - Arkansas and Louisiana will be known as: Provincia America Gallica
V - Mississippi and Alabama will be known as: Provincia America Mississippiensis
VI - Tennessee and Kentucky will be known as Provincia America Transappalachiana
VII - Florida and Georgia will be known as: Provincia Georgia Florida
VIII - North and South Carolina will be known as: Provincia Carolina
IX - Alaska and Hawaii will be known as: Provincia Alasca et Havaia
X - Idaho, Oregon and Washington State will be known as: Provincia America Oregonensis
XI - Northern California will be known as: Provincia California Franciscensis
XII - Southern California will be known as: Provincia California Angelensis
XIII - Wisconsin and Michigan will be known as Provincia Lacus Magni
XIV - Illinois and Indiana will be known as: Provincia America Cismississippiana
XV - Ohio will be known as: Provincia Ohio
XVI - New York and New Jersey will be known as: Provincia America Noveboracensis
XVII - Pennsylvania and Delaware will be known as: Provincia Mediatlantica
XVIII - Maryland and DC will be known as: Provincia Columbia
XIX - West Virginia and Virginia will be known as: Provincia Virginia

For the record these provinces were already established. This Senatus Consulta is just correcting the names to make them more Latin Compliant. I would also like to thank Gn. Cornelius Lentulus for providing the correct naming for these newly created provinces.

Results

Uti rogas: 13
Antiquo: 2
Abstineo: 0
PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Antiquo "I agree with Senator Fabius Maximus and think the California Provinces need to be better named."
• PACP Uti rogas
• MCGG Uti rogas
• LCSF Uti rogas
• SCVIA Uti rogas
• QFM Antiquo "Lentulus translation of Latin is flawed. Superior means higher. Inferior lower. In Proximity to Rome Mosia Inferior was closer but so what? I want upper/lower California. I don't want Saints' names in a non Christian religious province. You send the wrong message."
• CnIC Uti rogas
• DeIPI Uti rogas
• TIS Uti rogas
• CMC Uti rogas
• PoMS Uti rogas
• MPC Uti rogas "However, the names for the two new provinces in California need to be reconsidered so the provinces have names that are neither generic nor associated with Christian saints."
• QSP Uti rogas
• CTVG Uti rogas "Though I feel that the issues with the names in California still need to be fully resolved."
• LVT Uti rogas "I believe, however, the Consul and current Governor of the California provincia should be allowed to finalize the names of the two new California provinciae. I agree with Senator Fabius that the proposed names should probably be changed."

Item II - Provincial Reform on America Medioccidentalis Superior

Proposal

When I drafted the Provincia Reform that was successfully passed last session I left out one American Province - America Medioccidentalis Superior by mistake. I respectfully request that the Senate approve this reorganization of this province in line with the new province makeup. With approval the following new provinces will be created:

I - Minnesota will be known as: Provincia Minnesota
II - Missouri and Iowa will be known as: Provincia America Missuriensis
III - Kansas and Nebraska will be known as: Provincia America Nebrascensis
IV - North and South Dakota will be known as: Provincia Dacota
V - Wyoming and Montana will be known as: Provincia America Montana

Again, I would like to thank Gn. Cornelius Lentulus for recommending the new names of provinces, should the Senate approve this Senatus Consulta.

Results

Uti rogas: 15
Antiquo: 0
Abstineo: 0
PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Uti rogas
• PACP Uti rogas
• MCGG Uti rogas
• LCSF Uti rogas
• SCVIA Uti rogas
• QFM Uti rogas
• CnIC Uti rogas
• DeIPI Uti rogas
• TIS Uti rogas
• CMC Uti rogas
• PoMS Uti rogas
• MPC Uti rogas
• QSP Uti rogas
• CTVG Uti rogas
• LVT Uti rogas

Item III - SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE POSITION OF CFO – 2766 A.U.C

Proposal

SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE POSITION OF CFO – 2766 A.U.C.
1. By this Senatus consultum, the Senate hereby defines the position of Chief Financial Officer (herein designated as " CFO"). An individual shall be appointed to the position of CFO by Senatus consultum, passing by simple majority.
2. An individual appointed to, and accepting of, the position of CFO, shall be given access to all financial data and accounts, including but not limited to the deposit, credit, and brokerage accounts of the corporation and its associated entities, and all access methods thereto, as well as the surface mail directed to Nova Roma, Inc.
3. The CFO shall report directly to the co-presidents of Nova Roma, or in their absence, the co-vice presidents, and through them, to the Board of Directors.
4. The CFO shall have the ability to appoint and dismiss assistants as it sees fit, not to exceed four individuals, who shall be treated as under direct appointment by the Board of Directors. For their service, these individuals shall receive an amount of century points equal to those of regularly appointed scribae.
5. The CFO, once appointed, shall serve until either he/she resigns the position, or, until such time as the Senate revokes his/her appointment by means of a Senatus consultum passed by an extraordinary majority, as defined by the SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV.
6. A incoming CFO shall be appointed to a term so as to overlap that of an outgoing CFO by three months, during which time the incoming CFO shall co-operate with the outgoing CFO to ensure smooth transition of necessary access to records and operations as outlined elsewhere in this and relevant consulta. An incoming CFO, during this three-month period, shall also assess the financial status and performance of the corporation and report the same to the Board of Directors, and complete and analysis of the financial results of the corporation and develop recommendations for future measures.
7. In the event of a vacancy in the position of CFO, the consuls shall have the authority to appoint, from the appointed assistants to the previous CFO, a CFO "pro tempore", for a term to last no longer than six months from the date of appointment. By the end of that time, the Board of Directors must appoint a new CFO, to serve the remainder of the previous incomplete term, or if less than six months remain of that term, to start a new term.
8. The CFO shall have overall responsibility for the financial data of Nova Roma and its associated entities, and shall oversee all financial operations of the organization, including, but not limited to: those undertaken by those individuals elected by the comitia, those undertaken by the provinciae and their subsidiaries, those undertaken by the sodalitates, and those undertaken by the sacerdotes publici as appointed by the Senate, Collegium Pontificum, or other body so empowered.
9. The CFO shall be responsible for the development and recommendation of financial protocols to ensure proper compliance with laws and regulations, both inside and outside Nova Roma, shall be responsible for the monitoring of internal financial controls and procedures, and shall produce financial reports to be provided to the Board of Directors at such frequency as required by Nova Roman law.
10. The CFO shall maintain financial oversight of all accounting practices, budget and cash management, oversight of debt financing, and shall undertake those administrative tasks related to maintaining the financial welfare of the corporation.
11. The CFO shall also oversee budgetary planning, make recommendations for budgetary measures, represent the organization to the financial community, work with the officers and other elected and appointed individuals to ensure operational success and compliance, minimize potential risks to the organization, and oversee business insurance plans.
12. The CFO shall have sole responsibility for the maintenance of the official post box for Nova Roma Inc. and shall locate it where is most convenient to do so. The Senate approves the annual, or otherwise as required periodic, expenditure of such funds as are necessary to keep and maintain this post box. This post box shall be the only one specified on the Nova Roma website / wiki as a direct mailing point of contact for Nova Roma.
13. The Senate of Nova hereby re-appoints Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix as CFO of Nova Roma, Inc.
14. Upon enactment of this Senatus consultum:

A. The only lawful method of subsequently superseding, amending or repealing this Senatus consultum must be by way of a Senatus consultum that must achieve an extraordinary majority before it can be enacted. Any other method or attempt shall be illegal and forbidden.

B. No other Senatus consultum shall be enacted where the proposed content of which conflicts, negates, overrides, limits or otherwise affects in a negative manner the contents and/or purposes of all or any part of this Senatus consultum, whether directly or indirectly other than by the method at specified at14.A of this Senatus consultum.

Results

Uti rogas: 13
Antiquo: 2
Abstineo: 0
PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Antiquo " can't see any reason whatever to the Senate need an super majority to terminate the CFO term. More the position has no term limit. I know Sulla has been, is and will be a good CFO but don't see any reason to being creating almost perpetual positions besides Pontifex

Maximus and even that we don't have anymore."

• PACP Uti rogas
• MCGG Uti rogas
• LCSF Uti rogas
• SCVIA Uti rogas
• QFM Uti rogas "2010 we saw ruling magistrates attempt to 'give' $10,000 dollars to a friend of one of Nova Roma's officers with the excuse it was for NR's benefit. That was a blatant lie, the money was actually to be divided among three people one being the ruling magistrate. This cannot be allowed to happen again."
• CnIC Uti rogas
• DeIPI Uti rogas
• TIS Uti rogas
• CMC Uti rogas
• PoMS Uti rogas
• MPC Uti rogas "The current CFO has done an excellent job and hopefully he will continue in this role for many years. This document provides a thorough description of the CFO position. The Senate now has the guidance required to find a suitable candidate for the position should the need ever arise. But for the good of Nova Roma and the citizens, the Senate should encourage Senator Sulla to continue serving in this role for as long as he is willing and able to do so."
• QSP Uti rogas
• CTVG Antiquo "Although I agree with the majority of this measure, I am voting against it because of the language requiring an 'extraordinary majority' to modify it."
• LVT Uti rogas

Item IV - Request for use of Nova Roman Trademark - on behalf of Gn. Iulius Caesar

Proposal

SENATUS CONSULTUM ON PERMISSION TO USE NOVA ROMA TRADEMARKED ITEMS
1. By this Senatus consultum, the Senate hereby grants Gnaeus Iulius Caesar the right to use the Nova Roman trademark item(s) in pursuit of the opening of a CafePress store.
2. Gnaeus Iulius Caesar shall make an annual donation to the Nova Roman Treasury, which shall be a percentage of any profits pursuant to items that are sold bearing the Nova Roman trademarked logo(s).
3. The Percentage at section 2 above shall be a mutually negotiated amount between the CFO of Nova Roma and Gnaeus Iulius Caesar.

Results

Uti rogas: 13
Antiquo: 0
Abstineo: 1
PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Uti rogas "Best luck for Senator Caesar endeavors."
• PACP Uti rogas
• MCGG Uti rogas
• LCSF Uti rogas
• SCVIA "Best of luck to Cn. Iulius Caesar on this venture."
• QFM Uti rogas
• CnIC Abstineo
• DeIPI Uti rogas
• TIS Uti rogas
• CMC Uti rogas
• PoMS Uti rogas
• MPC Uti rogas
• QSP Uti rogas
• CTVG Uti rogas
• LVT Uti rogas

Item V - Book Compilation Issue (Multiple items)

Proposal

In light of the seriousness and depth of the issue here, this item will be broken down to individual parts that all together make up this specific item. Each of those parts are independent but related to the whole. Each part will stand on its own merit and a no vote on any question will not negate any succeeding question. In other words, please make sure to vote for EACH question.

Item V.A.

Proposal

Does the Senate authorize the book in question to be republished and sold?

Results

Uti rogas: 12
Antiquo: 0
Abstineo: 3
PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Abstineo "In my mind there is no question that anyone contributing to the NR wiki is doing it volunteering and giving away any personal material and texts place there. On other hand I don't know exactly what the USA law would see it so I will abstain."
• PACP Uti rogas
• MCGG Uti rogas
• LCSF Uti rogas
• SCVIA Uti rogas "I vote 'Yes' to this item only because Item B Directs L. Vitellius Triarius to make a good faith effort in contacting all the contributors in seeking approval before republishing."
• QFM Uti rogas
• CnIC Uti rogas
• DeIPI Uti rogas
• TIS Uti rogas
• CMC Uti rogas
• PoMS Abstineo "I agree with the idea in principle, however I think item B should be satisfied with regard to authors' respective approvals, and any other legal issues carefully reviewed before we approve item A."
• MPC Uti rogas
• QSP Uti rogas
• CTVG Uti rogas
• LVT Abstineo

Item V.B.

Proposal

Does the Senate direct L. Vitellius Triarius make a good faith effort to contact all of the contributors of the book to see their approval before republishing? And that he notify the Senate of his results prior to republishing the book?

Results

Uti rogas: 14
Antiquo: 0
Abstineo: 1
PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Uti rogas "If Triarius managed to contact all contributors that would be great and removed my apprension of possible future problems on the matter."
• PACP Uti rogas "This is exactly what Triarius should do."
• MCGG Uti rogas
• LCSF Uti rogas
• SCVIA Uti rogas
• QFM Uti rogas
• CnIC Uti rogas
• DeIPI Uti rogas
• TIS Uti rogas
• CMC Uti rogas
• PoMS Uti rogas
• MPC Uti rogas
• QSP Uti rogas
• CTVG Uti rogas
• LVT Abstineo

Item V.C.

Proposal

Does the Senate direct next year's consuls to draft procedures and all necessary agreements to met and protect the Organization?

Results

Uti rogas: 14
Antiquo: 0
Abstineo: 1
PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Uti rogas "Taking this to meaning that next years Consuls should figure if the disclaimers in the wiki are strong enough so NR can use the wiki material as it seems fit I agree."
• PACP Uti rogas
• MCGG Uti rogas
• LCSF Uti rogas
• SCVIA Abstineo
• QFM Uti rogas
• CnIC Uti rogas
• DeIPI Uti rogas "If any additional procedures or documents need to be drafted, reviewed and approved by the Senate."
• TIS Uti rogas
• CMC Uti rogas
• PoMS Uti rogas "with respect to the above"
• MPC Uti rogas
• QSP Uti rogas
• CTVG Uti rogas
• LVT Uti rogas

Item V.D.

Proposal

Does Nova Roma retain the ownership of the content in all official public fora or Sodalitas?

Results

Uti rogas: 12
Antiquo: 3
Abstineo: 0
PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Antiquo "No, one thing is the wiki where the authors should know their work can be edit and in my mind no implicit copyright can be claimed from them. The public fora and or Sodalitas don't have in my opinion such forfeit of ownership of material."
• PACP Uti rogas
• MCGG Uti rogas
• LCSF Uti rogas
• SCVIA Antiquo "As a writer myself I hold the stance that if I write the work then it is ultimately my work. That is non-negotiable."
• QFM Uti rogas
• CnIC Uti rogas
• DeIPI Uti rogas
• TIS Uti rogas
• CMC Uti rogas
• PoMS Antiquo "I share the concerns of G. Amelius Crassus and Statia Cornelia"
• MPC Uti rogas "Nova Roma should retain as much control and ownership of the archives as it can within any limits imposed by service agreements and applicable law. However, Nova Roma should not attempt to claim copyright for the content of email lists. Nova Roma should have a disclaimer associated with each of the fora, possibly as part of the group description, stating in part that the opinions expressed in the fora do not necessarily reflect the official views of Nova Roma etc."
• QSP Uti rogas
• CTVG Uti rogas
• LVT Uti rogas

Item V.E.

Proposal

Does Nova Roma adopt the following (This Notice was prepared and posted by M. Pompeius Caninus)?

"I, NAME HERE, am a volunteer with Nova Roma, Inc. For consideration which I acknowledge, I agree to assign to Nova Roma, Inc., the copyright in any materials I create (the Works) within the course of my volunteer work. By assigning all right, title, and interest in the Works, Nova Roma, Inc. agrees to:

1. allow me to include the Works or a reproduction of the Works in my portfolio or other such compilation, to be shown to my prospective employers or clients. All such portfolio uses must include a notice of Nova Roma, Inc.' copyright ownership;

2. acknowledge my transfer of the Works to Nova Roma, Inc. as a charitable contribution;

3. make a good faith effort to provide me with attribution in all versions of the Works.

I warrant that any works I create pursuant to this agreement are original and do not infringe any intellectual property rights or violate any laws related to libel, privacy, or otherwise. I agree to indemnify Nova Roma, Inc. in any action arising out of, or relating to, these representations and warranties.
Volunteer Signature:
Volunteer Name:
Volunteer Address:
Date:"

Results

Uti rogas: 13
Antiquo: 2
Abstineo: 0
PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Antiquo "First it is not clear to me that this notice means only the wiki material. Secondly I considered it to be too much given to NR. What I think it should say, and only for wiki material, is the author authorizes NR to use as it seems fit, including to sell, but the author has also the right to use the same material without considering NR the solely owner."
• PACP Uti rogas "Perfect."
• MCGG Uti rogas
• LCSF Uti rogas
• SCVIA Uti rogas
• QFM Uti rogas
• CnIC Uti rogas
• DeIPI Uti rogas
• TIS Uti rogas
• CMC Uti rogas
• PoMS Antiquo
• MPC Uti rogas
• QSP Uti rogas
• CTVG Uti rogas
• LVT Uti rogas "I believe this should be reviewed by the NR Attorneys before any public release."

Item V.F.

Proposal

Does Nova Roma adopt the following disclaimer (This notice I received from Q. Fabius Maximus)?

"************CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE************
Information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended solely for its recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this message and you have had access to such information by means of this e-mail, you are not authorized to copy this e-mail or forward it to any person other than the intended recipient. Please delete and destroy the original message.
Sending emails does not ensure that transmission is safe or error free. Any information is subject to alteration with no prior notice, and this will be sufficient grounds to release this company upon the occurrence of any potential damages caused by the undue and incorrect use of the information. This communication is for the sole purpose of informing and it shall not be deemed as a proposal, acceptance or official declaration by NOVA ROMA INC in MAINE, USA, UNLESS otherwise stated."

Results

Uti rogas: 13
Antiquo: 2
Abstineo: 0
PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Antiquo "I fail to see the necessity of considering any official NR matters confidential."
• PACP Uti rogas "Ditto as above."
• MCGG Uti rogas
• LCSF Uti rogas
• SCVIA Uti rogas
• QFM Uti rogas "What the notice simply says is that if you have no business with Nova Roma you shouldn't be reading their mail. You cannot forward the contents of said mail to anyone else. And unless the information contained refers to you or with something that you are involved with in Nova Roma, you cannot retain the mail for use at a later date."
• CnIC Uti rogas
• DeIPI Uti rogas
• TIS Uti rogas
• CMC Uti rogas
• PoMS Uti rogas
• MPC Uti rogas
• QSP Uti rogas
• CTVG Uti rogas
• LVT Antiquo "This item does not define what types of email this disclaimer should be applied to. If it applies to all emails within Nova Roma, I would expect we will all certainly be in violation at some time within the next year. This item should be discussed further."

Item V.G.

Proposal

Compensation: PLEASE VOTE FOR ONLY ONE OPTION ON THIS QUESTION)
Should the arrangement for compensation for the sale of the book(s) compiled by L. Vitellus Triarius be based on the following percentage?

1. 80% Nova Roma vs 20% to Triarius

2. 50% Nova Roma vs 50% to Triarius

3. 20% Nova Roma vs 80% to Triarius

Results

Option 1: 4
Option 2: 6
Option 3: 3
Option 2 is PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Abstineo "First of all I want to stress that Triarius initiative is excellent and it shouldn't be any doubt on it. The fact that one contributor to the wiki have raised copyrights issues is the only point I would like to see completely solved and safeguarded before going ahead with the project. I don't know exactly what even thEn would be the fair amount for each part so I will also abstain."
• PACP Option 2
• MCGG Option 3
• LCSF Option 2
• SCVIA Option 1
• QFM Option 1
• CnIC Option 3 "He had the gumption to make use of this, so why should he not reap the majority of the rewards?"
• DeIPI Option 2
• TIS Option 1
• CMC Option 2
• PoMS Option 2
• MPC Option 3 "After some additional reflection, I believe Triarius should be rewarded for taking steps to provide knowledge to Nova Roma's citizens. There has been much debate this year about whether or not the Collegium Pontificum has any duties or responsibilities related to instructing the citizens in, or promoting practice of, the cultus deorum romanorum. Triarius attempted to fill a void left by those who could not understand or would not acknowledge a need for the Collegium Pontificum of Nova Roma to nurture and guide citizens interested in the cultus deorum romanorum in a way that was not required of the Collegium Pontificum or the sacerdotes of ancient Rome. So, in this particular case, I feel Triarius should be generously rewarded for taking steps that support Nova Roma's goals in a critical area where more experienced leaders have taken no initiative."
• QSP Option 1
• CTVG Option 2
• LVT Abstineo

Item VI - Appointment of Governor - Lucius Ulpius Atellus

Proposal

It is my pleasure to recommend the appointment of a new Governor:

Lucius Ulpius Atellus as Governor of the Provincia of Florida and Georgia (name change pending).
Here is a copy of his request that he sent:

Salve,

I'm very interested in the governorship of Austrorientalis Stagnum. I know the time requirements maybe an issue but I am an active citizen, my taxes are current and have access to a wealth of potential new citizens ( work on military base and FL state college across the street from me). Unless a more senior civi presents him/herself I would like the chance to lead.

Vale,
Lucius Ulpius Atellus

Results

Uti rogas: 14
Antiquo: 0
Abstineo: 1
PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Uti rogas "With my best wishes for great success as governor."
• PACP Uti rogas
• MCGG Uti rogas
• LCSF Uti rogas
• SCVIA Uti rogas "Congrats to L. Ulpus Atellus in his new position and his efforts to have an active Provincia."
• QFM Uti rogas
• CnIC Uti rogas
• DeIPI Uti rogas
• TIS Uti rogas
• CMC Uti rogas
• PoMS Abstineo "I will leave this to Senators who know the candidate and can therefore make a more valid vote. I am just getting back and I don't know this citizen."
• MPC Uti rogas
• QSP Uti rogas
• CTVG Uti rogas
• LVT Uti rogas

Item VII - Future Fund raising Authorization Senatus Consulta

Proposal

Beginning Next year, The CFO plans to focus time and resources of Nova Roma for the effort of Fund raising.

What the CFO seeks is consent from the Board of Directors of Nova Roma to use Funds from the Nova Roman Treasury up to the amount of $1000. For the purposes of purchasing product, selling the product and mailing the product directly to those individuals who will purchase the items.

The products that the CFO intends to purchase are:

Nova Roman Flags/banners Bookmarks Propriety products like Nova Roman Wine, foods etc Address labels and other products Nova Roman Coins for each of the years of NR's existence

Any product purchased, the CFO will strive to have the merchandise drop shipped. However, if there is any inventory that is maintained the CFO will track the inventory, post regular updates on quantities, sales reports and all necessary oversight will be reported to the Senate Finance Committee.

If purchased product is stored and the CFO is responsible for shipping all product in a timely manner. The CFO would be allowed to assess a handing fee no greater than 2.5% in addition to the shipping charges as compensation for physically handling and maintaining the merchandise for NR.

Results

Uti rogas: 14
Antiquo: 1
Abstineo: 0
PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Antiquo "Considering the effort in keeping the budget sound I think the amount to be excessively high at the moment. I would prefer a more focused and lower budget plan at the start."
• PACP Uti rogas
• MCGG Uti rogas
• LCSF Uti rogas
• SCVIA Uti rogas
• QFM Uti rogas
• CnIC Uti rogas
• DeIPI Uti rogas
• TIS Uti rogas
• CMC Uti rogas
• PoMS Uti rogas
• MPC Uti rogas
• QSP Uti rogas
• CTVG Uti rogas
• LVT Uti rogas

Item VIII - Elevation to Patrician Status Recommendation to C. Decius Laterensis

Proposal

At the request of Pontiff/Senator Sabinus the Senate hereby grants approval to elevate, with the approval of the Comitia Curiata the promtion of C. Decius Laterensis: http://www.novaroma.org/civitas/album?id=13959 to Patrician Rank and classification - with all rights, privileges and limitations that being a Patrician entails.

Results

Uti rogas: 11
Antiquo: 4
Abstineo: 0
PASSED

Individual Votes

• CAC Uti rogas "Considering the objective and the fact there isn't any Patrician candidate for the religious office I will gladly vote in agreement. May we bee able to honor Pater Mars adequately."
• PACP Uti rogas
• MCGG Uti rogas
• LCSF Uti rogas
• SCVIA Uti rogas "As I also agree that adoption would have been the preferred method for this elevation of status. I also understand that the Pontifex Maximus who summons the Comitiia Curiata has been absent as of late. With that in mind I understand the need of expediency. Although we the Senate must be careful to not set the expectation of precedent. Laterensis is being elevated to serve as Priest (Flamen?) to Mars, who was a guardian of Rome. We are elevating Laterensis to give proper respect to a revered Deity of Rome. It is not the case of 'silver platter' syndrome. I think this should be made abundantly clear."
• QFM Antiquo "Only the Founder can elevate families. He did so with myself and Minucius as a reward for service to the Republic. Have a Patrician adopt Decius. Otherwise I fear you set a dangerous precedent."
• CnIC Antiquo "As I have said in session, there exists at law a perfectly adequate method for Laterensis to be elevated to the patrician order. It is called adoption. This part of the constitution is best used where entire large families should be elevated, and where mass adoption is not practical. In this case it is one person, and for the purposes of filling a position. Even if this is passed, to my mind Laterensis should be adopted. All that is needed is a patrician with at least 18 years age difference. Using this provision of the Constitution to elevate one person is overkill and sets a dangerous precedent."
• DeIPI Uti rogas
• TIS Uti rogas
• CMC Uti rogas
• PoMS Antiquo "Sure I recommend and hope for the best but I believe the Lex Equitia Familia requires C. Decius 'adopted' by adrogato. Please look about 3/4 way down the text and you'll find the comitia adopted procedure. Could we consider an amendment to this law (through comitia of course) which perhaps states that the CP and the Senate, a simple majority from both of these bodies, is enough to change the order of a citizen if such a change is **solely** for the granting of a religious position? It is a lovely law, full of excellent historical research. But from a Nova Roma perspective, it seems rather counterproductive to legally compel a citizen to pull a 'Publius Clodius' maneuver to fill such an important position in this day and time.
• MPC Antiquo "There is no pressing, urgent need to fill this position in the Collegium Pontificum. So, a traditional and conservative solution is probably best. In cases such as this, a citizen should be required to pursue adoption by a patrician family before any other option for elevation to patrician status is approved by this body. There are perhaps forty or so active patrician citizens who are of suitable age who could adopt Laterensis. Adoption would cause a name change but if Laterensis is sincere in his desire to serve as a flamen then a name change should be a minor concern."
• QSP Uti rogas
• CTVG Uti rogas
• LVT Uti rogas

Respectfully,
Marcus Pompeius Caninus