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This is a report of a session of the Nova Roma Senate of a.d. III Kal. Dec. ‡, M. Moravio T. Iulio cos. ‡ MMDCCLXI a.u.c..

[TIS] Titus Iulius Sabinus.
[PMA] Publius Memmius Albucius.
[TGP] Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.
[AMM] Annia Minucia Marcella.
[GPL] Gaius Popillius Laenas.
[MIS] Marcus Iulius Severus.
[MCC] Marcus Curiatius Complutensis.
[KFBQ] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus.
[FVG] Flavius Vedius Germanicus.
[DIPI] Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus.
[QSP] Quintus Suetonius Paulinus.
[GMM] Gaius Marius Merullus.
[MLA] Marcus Lucretius Agricola.
[EIL] Equestria Iunia Laeca.
[KFBM] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Modianus.
[CFD] Gaius Flavius Diocletianus.
[SUVP] Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus.
[MMA] Marcus Minucius Audens.
[CCS] Gaius Curius Saturninus.
[GIC] Gnaeus Iulius Caesar.
[TOPA] Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus.
[ATS] Aula Tullia Scholastica.
[FAC] Franciscus Apulus Caesar.
[ATMC] Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato.
[MHM] Marca Hortensia Maior.
[MIP] Marcus Iulius Perusianus.
[ECF] Emilia Curia Finnica.
[GEM] Gnaeus Equitius Marinus.
[PMS] Pompeia Minucia Strabo.
[MAM] Marcus Arminius Maior.
[MMPH] Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus.

The following former high magistrate has ius sententiae:

[LCSF] Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix.

The following 4 Senators did not cast a vote (their absence was not announced or justified):

[GEC] Gaius Equitius Cato.
[JSM] Julilla Sempronia Magna.
[FGA] Flavius Galerius Aurelianus.
[AMA] Arnamentia Moravia Aurelia.

The following Senator absence during the vote is justified:

[QFM] Quintus Fabius Maximus.

The necessary majority for a Senatus consultum was therefore 17 votes in favor. "UTI ROGAS" indicates a vote in favor of an item, "ANTIQUO" is a vote against, and "ABSTINEO" is an open abstention.

The Senate was called to vote on the following agenda:

Item I.

Senate appointments reports.

The Senate of Nova Roma by this consultum declares that all Senate appointments must submit to the Senate, no late than kalends of November each year, reports of their activity. Such communications should, but are not required to, include commentary about the current situation, achievments, future intentions and other information relevant to the Senate.

UTI ROGAS 28.
ABSTINEO 3.
ANTIQUO 1.

Item passed.

Comments:

[TIS] Titus Iulius Sabinus.Uti rogas.
[PMA] Publius Memmius Albucius.ABSTINEO, in order to support Consul Iulius' good intention.
[TGP] Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.Vti rogas. I would ask which senatus consulta this replaces? We need a name so there is no misunderstanding. We should still list all the appointments this applies to.
[AMM] Annia Minucia Marcella.Uti rogas.
[GPL] Gaius Popillius Laenas.Vti rogas.
[MIS] Marcus Iulius Severus.VTI ROGAS.
[MCC] Marcus Curiatius Complutensis.Uti Rogas
[KFBQ] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus.Uti rogas.
[FVG] Flavius Vedius Germanicus.No.
[DIPI] Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus.Uti rogas.
[QSP] Quintus Suetonius Paulinus.Vti rogas.
[GMM] Gaius Marius Merullus. Vti rogas. I vote to approve reports from senate appointments as proposed.
[MLA] Marcus Lucretius Agricola.YES.
[EIL] Equestria Iunia Laeca.Uti rogas.
[KFBM] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Modianus.Uti Rogas.
[CFD] Gaius Flavius Diocletianus.Uti Rogas. I have no objections against this issue. If someone is appointed into an office by this August Body, he shall have the obligation to report about his activities.
[SUVP] Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus.Ita; seems a common sense advisory to me.
[MMA] Marcus Minucius Audens.YES.
[LCSF] Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix.Yes.
[CCS] Gaius Curius Saturninus.Uti rogas.
[GIC] Gnaeus Iulius Caesar.UTI ROGAS.
[TOPA] Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus.Uti rogas.
[ATS] Aula Tullia Scholastica.Abstineo. I would have liked to have seen a definitive list of which Senate appointees are covered by this, for it makes sense for some, but not others.
[FAC] Franciscus Apulus Caesar.VTI ROGAS
[ATMC] Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato.UTI ROGAS.
[MHM] Marca Hortensia Maior.Uti rogas.
[MIP] Marcus Iulius Perusianus.Uti Rogas.
[ECF] Emilia Curia Finnica.Uti rogas.
[GEM] Gnaeus Equitius Marinus.Uti Rogas.
[PMS] Pompeia Minucia Strabo.Uti Rogas.
[MAM] Marcus Arminius Maior.Abstineo.
[MMPH] Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus.Uti rogas.

Item II.

Nova Roma Sodalitas reports to the Senate.

The Senate of Nova Roma by this consultum declares that all Nova Roma sodalitas chief officers must submit to the Senate, no late than Kalends of November each year, reports of activity. Such communications should, but are not required to, include commentary about the current situation of sodalitas, achievments, future intentions and other information relevant to the Senate.

UTI ROGAS 18.
ABSTINEO 1.
ANTIQUO 13.

Item passed.

Comments:

[TIS] Titus Iulius Sabinus. Uti rogas.
[PMA] Publius Memmius Albucius.ANTIQUO.This item does not specify what sodalitates are concerned, official ones or not. Keeping thus all of them in the same case, it implies that the non official sodalitates would report to the Senate, which is illegal, for these ones are ordinary groups and associations and thus not a part of our Roman State. Such a reporting obligation would violate the right that our cives have to create and take part to private groups freely, outside of our State's survey. This said, I would suggest our consuls to propose a modification of our legislation on sodalitates, which does not clearly define the place of the recognized or "official" sodalitates in our public field, and a fortiori, in or in relation with our State.
[TGP] Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.Antiquo.
[AMM] Annia Minucia Marcella.Uti rogas.
[GPL] Gaius Popillius Laenas.Vti rogas.
[MIS] Marcus Iulius Severus.VTI ROGAS.
[MCC] Marcus Curiatius Complutensis.Antiquo.
[KFBQ] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus.Uti rogas.
[FVG] Flavius Vedius Germanicus.No.
[DIPI] Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus.Antiquo.
[QSP] Quintus Suetonius Paulinus.Vti rogas.
[GMM] Gaius Marius Merullus.Vti rogas. I vote to approve reports from sodalitates as proposed.
[MLA] Marcus Lucretius Agricola.YES.
[EIL] Equestria Iunia Laeca.Uti rogas.
[KFBM] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Modianus.Uti Rogas.
[CFD] Gaius Flavius Diocletianus.Uti Rogas.
[SUVP] Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus.Ita; as a Dominus Sodalis, again, a common sense advisory.
[MMA] Marcus Minucius Audens.NO.I see no purpose in this item. If a Sodalitas is successful those who take part in it will advertise it's success to others interested. If it is not who of the Magistrate's will attempt to assist it??
[LCSF] Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix.No.
[CCS] Gaius Curius Saturninus.Uti rogas.
[GIC] Gnaeus Iulius Caesar.ANTIQUO. This extends, intentionally or not, the reach of the Senate into any sodalitas, private or "official". Are we now to make judgments on whether one is performing up to "expectations"? That is a matter for the members of each Sodalitas - official or unofficial, not this house. The "state" is overreaching itself here and to what practical use would all this information be put to by members here? Just because a sodalitas has "official" status does not mean that the state should root around in its business. An unnecessary burden for no point.
[TOPA] Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus.Antiquo. I support senator Audens on this issue.
[ATS] Aula Tullia Scholastica.Antiquo. Regrettably I could not get a word in edgewise on this during the contio, but I agree with the comments of others to date on this, and add that as a member of five sodalities and officer of three, there is no need for this. Moreover, in the case of at least one sodalitas which has elected officers, the terms would just be starting by the specified date, which would put the responsible party at a disadvantage. Even worse, for two consecutive years, the head of one official sodalitas has disappeared, and we have to arrange elections at a most inconvenient time. Sodalities tend to deal with e mail, not event production; achievements are normally difficult to quantify, or even to describe, and officers hard to find. Rare is the actual project performed by a sodalitas. The Assimil text translation undertaken a couple of years ago by members of Latinitas is an anomaly, not the normal run of things there or in any sodalitas.
[FAC] Franciscus Apulus Caesar.VTI ROGAS.
[ATMC] Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato.ANTIQUO. In my opinion this goes too far. Too intrusive.
[MHM] Marca Hortensia Maior.Uti rogas.
[MIP] Marcus Iulius Perusianus.Uti Rogas.
[ECF] Emilia Curia Finnica.Uti rogas.
[GEM] Gnaeus Equitius Marinus.Abstieno.
[PMS] Pompeia Minucia Strabo.Antiquo.
[MAM] Marcus Arminius Maior.Antiquo. I feel that our Sodalitas should not be considerated official institutions submitted to direct supervision, but more autonomous ones. Accordingly, I dont think anymore that the heads of the sodalitates should receive Century Points.
[MMPH] Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus.Uti rogas.

Item III.

The Senate approves the Senate handbook.

UTI ROGAS 27.
ABSTINEO 3.
ANTIQUO 2.

Item passed.

Comments:

[TIS] Titus Iulius Sabinus. Uti rogas.
[PMA] Publius Memmius Albucius.ABSTINEO, in order to support the work done, which will give us a first good basis for a better articulated handbook.
[TGP] Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.Vti rogas. Any suggestions for additions/deletions are still welcome. Please drop a note to the committee.
[AMM] Annia Minucia Marcella.Uti rogas.
[GPL] Gaius Popillius Laenas.Vti rogas.
[MIS] Marcus Iulius Severus.VTI ROGAS.
[MCC] Marcus Curiatius Complutensis.Uti Rogas.
[KFBQ] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus.Uti rogas.
[FVG] Flavius Vedius Germanicus.No.
[DIPI] Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus.Uti rogas.
[QSP] Quintus Suetonius Paulinus.Vti rogas.
[GMM] Gaius Marius Merullus. Vti rogas I vote to approve the handbook.
[MLA] Marcus Lucretius Agricola.YES.
[EIL] Equestria Iunia Laeca.Uti rogas.
[KFBM] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Modianus.Uti Rogas.
[CFD] Gaius Flavius Diocletianus.Abstineo.
[SUVP] Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus.Ita; as with any document, it will likely be a work in progress, but as the Republic and Senate grow and evolve, so to will this handbook.
[MMA] Marcus Minucius Audens.YES.I agree that it is a work "In Progress" but it is a beginning.
[LCSF] Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix.No I don't see the need for it. I do not believe it is necessary.
[CCS] Gaius Curius Saturninus.Uti rogas.
[GIC] Gnaeus Iulius Caesar.UTI ROGAS.
[TOPA] Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus.Uti rogas.
[ATS] Aula Tullia Scholastica.Assentior; uti rogas.
[FAC] Franciscus Apulus Caesar.VTI ROGAS.
[ATMC] Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato.UTI ROGAS.
[MHM] Marca Hortensia Maior.Uti rogas.
[MIP] Marcus Iulius Perusianus.Uti Rogas.
[ECF] Emilia Curia Finnica.Uti rogas.
[GEM] Gnaeus Equitius Marinus.Uti Rogas, with the understanding this is a living document.
[PMS] Pompeia Minucia Strabo.Uti Rogas.
[MAM] Marcus Arminius Maior.Abstineo.
[MMPH] Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus.Uti rogas.

Item IV.

The Senate award the Nova Roma CFO with 10 CP 5CP (past service).

UTI ROGAS 26.
ABSTINEO 1.
ANTIQUO 5.

Item passed.

Comments:

[TIS] Titus Iulius Sabinus. Uti rogas.
[PMA] Publius Memmius Albucius.ANTIQUO : this item has no utility and is unconstitional. The Nova Roma CFO is not an office of our State, but an office of Nova Roma non profit making corporation. It thus does not exist in our State. Not existing, it cannot be rewarded, by the Senate and in the frame of Its powers, century points. If we want to underline the need we have of a CFO or reward the work done, we must do it inside our non profit corporation frame. In addition, the proposed item opens the question of the place and appointment of the quaestor(s) we traditionnally assign to our Treasury. As long as our Constitution is not modified, the "quaestors assigned directly to the consuls shall supervise the whole of the aerarium (treasury)". So, in the frame of our State, there is no place for both quaestors and a CFO. Our consuls must thus find a tool which would allow us to keep on working in the frame of our Roman State (quaestors) and to take advantage of the skills of a CFO in the frame of our non profit making corporation.
[TGP] Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.Vti rogas. And a very big THANK YOU!!!
[AMM] Annia Minucia Marcella.Uti rogas.
[GPL] Gaius Popillius Laenas.Vti rogas.
[MIS] Marcus Iulius Severus.VTI ROGAS.
[MCC] Marcus Curiatius Complutensis.Uti Rogas.
[KFBQ] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus.Uti rogas.
[FVG] Flavius Vedius Germanicus.Yes.
[DIPI] Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus.Uti rogas. With extreme gratitude to our current CFO. Well done!
[QSP] Quintus Suetonius Paulinus.Vti rogas.
[GMM] Gaius Marius Merullus.Vti rogas I vote to award the CFO with the century points proposed.
[MLA] Marcus Lucretius Agricola.YES.
[EIL] Equestria Iunia Laeca.Uti rogas.
[KFBM] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Modianus.Uti Rogas.
[CFD] Gaius Flavius Diocletianus.Uti Rogas.
[SUVP] Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus. Ita; recognition and thanks should be customary, never unusual.
[MMA] Marcus Minucius Audens.YES. I have known the CFO for a few years and have worked closely with her as the Legate for the Regio Connecticut. She is an intelligent woman and devoted to the tasks that she undertakes,
[LCSF] Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix.No. As stated in the discussion, I think Century points are useless once you are already in the first class. If we want to show gratitude to our CFO, we should give something more of substance, something that has more value to our CFO - and that would be some funds. Not empty century points that certainly wont make any difference to a person who is already in the First Class.
[CCS] Gaius Curius Saturninus.Uti rogas.
[GIC] Gnaeus Iulius Caesar.ANTIQUO. As the Consul has initiated a discussion on the question of recognition and possibly some form of payments, this item should, in my view, have been deferred until the result of that discussion was concluded. At that point decisions could be made as whether to combine payments with points, or not. We are approaching the question of recognition in a fragmented fashion.
[TOPA] Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus.Antiquo. I really don't like the idea of the senate awarding century points directly, as opposed to appointing officials who, according to legislation, receive century points for those appointments.
[ATS] Aula Tullia Scholastica.Assentior; uti rogas.
[FAC] Franciscus Apulus Caesar.ANTIQVO: I know well that Roma was an holygarchy and this means more power to the Senatus, but honestly I can't accept it.
[ATMC] Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato.UTI ROGAS.
[MHM] Marca Hortensia Maior.Uti rogas.
[MIP] Marcus Iulius Perusianus.Abstineo.
[ECF] Emilia Curia Finnica.Uti rogas.
[GEM] Gnaeus Equitius Marinus.Uti Rogas.
[PMS] Pompeia Minucia Strabo.Uti Rogas..although I would be willing to do more than this.
[MAM] Marcus Arminius Maior.Uti Rogas.
[MMPH] Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus.Uti rogas.

Item V.

Appointment of governor. Ti. Horatius Barbatus as legatus pro praetore of provincia Nova Britannia.

UTI ROGAS 29.
ABSTINEO 3.
ANTIQUO 0.

Item passed.

Comments:

[TIS] Titus Iulius Sabinus. Uti rogas.
[PMA] Publius Memmius Albucius.UTI ROGAS, with my best wishes to the new governor and my thanks to the legatus p.p..
[TGP] Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.Vti rogas.
[AMM] Annia Minucia Marcella.Uti rogas.He'll do a wonderful job, I'm sure of it.
[GPL] Gaius Popillius Laenas.Vti rogas.
[MIS] Marcus Iulius Severus.VTI ROGAS.
[MCC] Marcus Curiatius Complutensis.Uti Rogas.
[KFBQ] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus.Uti rogas.
[FVG] Flavius Vedius Germanicus.Abstain.
[DIPI] Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus.Uti rogas. I have been impressed by Barbatus so far and think he will do an excellent job.
[QSP] Quintus Suetonius Paulinus.Vti rogas and I thank him for stepping up to the plate for this work.
[GMM] Gaius Marius Merullus.Vti rogas I vote to appoint Ti. Horatius Barbatus as legatus pro praetore of provincia Nova Britannia.
[MLA] Marcus Lucretius Agricola.YES.
[EIL] Equestria Iunia Laeca.Uti rogas.
[KFBM] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Modianus.Uti Rogas.
[CFD] Gaius Flavius Diocletianus.Uti Rogas.
[SUVP] Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus.Ita; as an expatriate of this Province, I've kept up a bit, good choice.
[MMA] Marcus Minucius Audens.YES. I have worked with this gentleman closely over the last two years and believe him to be not only competant to do the job of a Governor admirably, but also to stick with it and not 'disappear" as has happened in other Provincias.
[LCSF] Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix.Yes.
[CCS] Gaius Curius Saturninus.Uti rogas.
[GIC] Gnaeus Iulius Caesar.UTI ROGAS.
[TOPA] Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus.Uti rogas.
[ATS] Aula Tullia Scholastica.Assentior; uti rogas.
[FAC] Franciscus Apulus Caesar.ABSTINEO: I don't know this gentleman.
[ATMC] Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato.UTI ROGAS.
[MHM] Marca Hortensia Maior.Uti rogas.
[MIP] Marcus Iulius Perusianus.Abstineo.
[ECF] Emilia Curia Finnica.Uti rogas.
[GEM] Gnaeus Equitius Marinus.Uti Rogas.
[PMS] Pompeia Minucia Strabo.Uti Rogas.
[MAM] Marcus Arminius Maior.Uti Rogas.
[MMPH] Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus.Uti rogas.

Item VI.

Appointment of interpreter. According lex Cornelia de linguis publicis, the Senate appoint C. Petronius Dexter as interpreter for French.

UTI ROGAS 29.
ABSTINEO 3.
ANTIQUO 0.

Item passed.

Comments:

[TIS] Titus Iulius Sabinus. Uti rogas.
[PMA] Publius Memmius Albucius.ABSTINEO. I have, since twenty months, underlined the fact that our Interpretatership system does not work, at least to answer all our needs. What we need is a coordinated network between of Decuria of Interpreters, our central magistrates, our webmasters, and overall our governors, specially in non-English speaking provinces. Individual appointments, specially when the concerned governor has not been previously consulted, will not solve the problem and may de-motivate good wills. Our Interprets' list - but do we have one ? - has been thus built by fits and starts, leaving aside, for example, the fact that all the governors of non-English speaking provinces should, ex officio, be interpreters (for they would not be governors if not able to translate from their language to English and reciprocally). When we remind that Interpreters get century points, we see that we must re-build a coherent and transparent system. Though my heart wishes to support Hon. Petronius, who is my fellow Gaul and whose citizenship honors Gallia and our republic, my reason reminds me considering the interests of the whole republic: abstineo.
[TGP] Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.Vti rogas.
[AMM] Annia Minucia Marcella.Uti rogas.
[GPL] Gaius Popillius Laenas.Vti rogas.
[MIS] Marcus Iulius Severus.VTI ROGAS.
[MCC] Marcus Curiatius Complutensis.Uti Rogas.
[KFBQ] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus.Uti rogas.
[FVG] Flavius Vedius Germanicus.Abstain.
[DIPI] Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus.Uti rogas.
[QSP] Quintus Suetonius Paulinus.Vti rogas.
[GMM] Gaius Marius Merullus.Vti rogas I vote to appoint C. Petronius Dexter as interpreter for French.
[MLA] Marcus Lucretius Agricola.YES.
[EIL] Equestria Iunia Laeca.Uti rogas.
[KFBM] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Modianus.Uti Rogas.
[CFD] Gaius Flavius Diocletianus.Uti Rogas.
[SUVP] Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus.Ita; I like Dexter's work ethic and manner of presenting himself.
[MMA] Marcus Minucius Audens.YES. While I do not know this individual personnally, I rely upon Consul Sabinus for his reommendation.
[LCSF] Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix.Yes.
[CCS] Gaius Curius Saturninus.Uti rogas.
[GIC] Gnaeus Iulius Caesar.UTI ROGAS.
[TOPA] Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus.Uti rogas.
[ATS] Aula Tullia Scholastica.Assentior; uti rogas. I think he will make a fine addition to this group.
[FAC] Franciscus Apulus Caesar.VTI ROGAS.
[ATMC] Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato.UTI ROGAS.
[MHM] Marca Hortensia Maior.Uti rogas.
[MIP] Marcus Iulius Perusianus.Abstineo.
[ECF] Emilia Curia Finnica.Uti rogas.
[GEM] Gnaeus Equitius Marinus.Uti Rogas.
[PMS] Pompeia Minucia Strabo.Uti Rogas.
[MAM] Marcus Arminius Maior.Uti Rogas.
[MMPH] Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus.Uti rogas.

Item VII.

Denarius proposal. The Senate is call to decide about production of Nova Roma "Concordia" denarius.

UTI ROGAS 21.
ABSTINEO 4.
ANTIQUO 7.

Item passed.

Comments:

[TIS] Titus Iulius Sabinus. Uti rogas.
[PMA] Publius Memmius Albucius. UTI ROGAS, reminding that the Senate must vote in a second time the budgetary application of such a decision.
[TGP] Tiberius Galerius Paulinus.Antiquo.
[AMM] Annia Minucia Marcella.Uti rogas.
[GPL] Gaius Popillius Laenas.Vti rogas.
[MIS] Marcus Iulius Severus.VTI ROGAS.
[MCC] Marcus Curiatius Complutensis.Abstineo.
[KFBQ] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Quintilianus.Uti rogas.
[FVG] Flavius Vedius Germanicus.No.It has not been a year of Concordia.
[DIPI] Decius Iunius Palladius Invictus.Antiquo.
[QSP] Quintus Suetonius Paulinus.Vti rogas.
[GMM] Gaius Marius Merullus.Vti rogas I vote to approve the production of Nova Roma "Concordia" denarius as proposed.
[MLA] Marcus Lucretius Agricola.ABSTAIN.
[EIL] Equestria Iunia Laeca.Uti rogas.
[KFBM] Kaeso Fabius Buteo Modianus.Uti Rogas.
[CFD] Gaius Flavius Diocletianus.Uti Rogas.
[SUVP] Stephanus Ullerius Venator Piperbarbus.Ita; I shall further support the effort by buying denarii.
[MMA] Marcus Minucius Audens.NO. I have mentioned previously in the Senate my thoughts that this year has not been particularly in concert with "Concordia" no matter how many prayers are said to cover up the expulsion of citizens who have given much to NR in the past.
[LCSF] Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix.No.
[CCS] Gaius Curius Saturninus.Uti rogas.
[GIC] Gnaeus Iulius Caesar.ANTIQUO. Taking into account the comments of Senator Audens and others, I change my vote on this item. It is indeed exceptionally incongruent to officially sanction anything that celebrates Concordia, this year of all years.
[TOPA] Titus Octavius Pius Ahenobarbus.Abstineo. I don't see the need for another coin until we have sold the older ones. Also, there were some points raised during the discussion that I would like to see covered before going forth with this.
[ATS] Aula Tullia Scholastica.Assentior; uti rogas.
[FAC] Franciscus Apulus Caesar.VTI ROGAS.
[ATMC] Appius Tullius Marcellus Cato.UTI ROGAS. I have wanted to see a denaius for some time, and have discussed it in the Nova Roma coin group in the past. It was always seen as being too much. Perhaps this time it can be done. With two sestertii now, it is time for a denarius.
[MHM] Marca Hortensia Maior.Uti rogas.
[MIP] Marcus Iulius Perusianus.Abstineo.
[ECF] Emilia Curia Finnica.Uti rogas.
[GEM] Gnaeus Equitius Marinus.Uti Rogas.
[PMS] Pompeia Minucia Strabo.Antiquo.
[MAM] Marcus Arminius Maior.Uti Rogas.
[MMPH] Marcus Moravius Piscinus Horatianus.Uti rogas.

Senate Vote November MMDCCLXI (Nova Roma)

Contents

Item I.

Item II.

Item III.

Item IV.

Item V.

Item VI.

Item VII.

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