Session December 2776
Editing Session October 2776
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Presiding Magistrate
C. Cornelius Cethegus Barosus, Consul
The session was chaired by C. Cornelius Cethegus Barosus. The 'Call to Convene' was announced on a.d. XI Kal. Ian. ‡.
Consular Auspices
Cn. Cornelius Lentulus, pontifex, took the auspices for consul C. Cornelius Cethegus Barosus in his name, and they were favorable.
Consular Opening and Closing Ceremony
The Senate session was ritually opened and closed in the name of consul C. Cornelius Barosus by pontifex Cn. Cornelius Lentulus.
Quorum
The Senate of Nova Roma currently has 21 voting members which gives a minimum quorum of 14 voting members. With 20 senate members present and with 1 present through proxy, the QUORUM IS ACHIEVED.
Proxy - Gaius Petronius Dexter is on Leave - his Proxy is assigned to Sextus Lucilius Tutor - therefore, as per XI.J of the SENATUS CONSULTUM DE RATIONE SENATUS MMDCCLXV, he is deemed present.
The 21 voting members are (first those who are currently magistrates then in order of senate precedence):
A. Tullia Scholastica, senatrix censoria, princeps senatus
Q. Arrius Nauta, senator censorius, CONSUL
C. Cornelius Cethegus Barosus, senator praetorius, CONSUL
C. Petronius Stephanus Turpilianus, senator tribunicius, PRAETOR
P. Porcius Licinus, vir tribunicius, PRAETOR
Fl. Vedius Germanicus, senator censorius
Sex. Lucilius Tutor, senator censorius
P. Annaeus Constantinus Placidus, senator censorius
M. Pompeius Caninus, senator consularis
T. Domitius Draco, senator consularis
M. Aurelius Cotta Iovius, senator praetorius, AEDILIS CURULIS
M. Hortensia Maior Fabiana Faustina, senatrix praetoria
D. Aurelius Ingeniarius, senator praetorius
C. Petronius Dexter, senator praetorius - ON LEAVE OF ABSENCE
C. Artorius Praeconinus, senator praetorius
M. Caecilius Metellus Tocaiensis, senator aedilicius
A. Vitellius Celsus, senator aedilicius
A. Iulius Paterculus, senator aedilicius
Cn. Cornelius Lentulus, senator quaestorius, AEDILIS CURULIS
C. Flavius Constantinus Aeneas Stilicho, senator quaestorius
Gallio Velius Marsallas, senator quaestorius
The following 5 tribuni plebis who are not senators themselves have the right to attend this meeting of
the Senate and are invited to participate therein:
Ti. Iulius Nerva, vir privatus, TRIBUNUS PLEBIS
M. Claudius Marcellus, vir privatus, TRIBUNUS PLEBIS
C. Valeria Terra, femina privata, TRIBUNUS PLEBIS
Ap. Pompeia Messalina, femina privata, TRIBUNUS PLEBIS
K. Quirinius Dasius, vir privatus, TRIBUNUS PLEBIS
Schedule
2230 Rome Time (CET) a.d. XI Kal. Ian. ‡ 2776 AVC (22 Decemeber 2023) Call to convene. 2235 Rome Time (CET) a.d. XI Kal. Ian. ‡ 2776 AVC (22 Decemeber 2023) Call to order. Debate period commences. 2130 Rome Time (CET) a.d. VI Kal. Ian. ‡ 2776 AVC (27 Decemeber2023) Call to vote. Debate is allowed to continue during voting. 1600 Rome Time (CET) a.d. III Kal. Ian. ‡ 2776 AVC (30 Decemeber 2023) End of vote. Call to close (around 1935). Results announced, decrees published.
Agenda
ITEM I Proroguing the governors until the next Kalends of March and asking for provincial reports on two one-year long periods Item for Vote ITEM II Abolishing proxy voting in the senate Item for Vote ITEM III Official sponsorship and fundraiser for the new castra of Nova Roma, Castra Ovum owned by our allied Legio XX Valeria Victrix (Deva Victrix; Roman Tours) Item for Vote ITEM IV Disbanding the nonfunctional senate committees with the exception of the Senate Preparation Committee Item for Vote ITEM V Senate Award For Establishing A Mass Forum For Nova Roma: citizen Ti. Iulius Nerva would receive the Senate Award for developing his “History of The Romans” Facebook group as a forum of Nova Roma and building a currently 111.000 members audience Item for Vote ITEM VI Senate Award For Shaping the 1st Quarter of Century of Nova Roma Item for Vote ITEM VII Motion for a supplication for our fellow ill senatrix Item for Vote ITEM VIII Awarding the agnomen Augusta to A. Tullia Scholastica Item for Vote ITEM IX Commendation of D. Autronia Stolo and L. Dellius Liberalis Item for Vote
Proposal Results
ITEM I - DRAFT SENATUS CONSULTUM DE PROROGATIONE ET DE RELATIONE PRAESIDUM PROVINCIARUM
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 13 = GCCB, QAN, GVM, ATS, GCL, SLT, GPD, MACI, FVG, AIP, MHMFF, PACP, MCMT
- Comments:
Antiquo = 2 = DAI, TDD
- Comments:
- DAI: It appears my pleas to correct and fix this unfinished proposal were ignored. I cannot approve this legislation in good faith. I do not object to the governors being prorogued but the legislation as it stands will pollute the already complex landscape surrounding the provinces and the products we receive from governors.
- TDD: For the same reasons my colleague, Senator Aurelius Ingeniarius, brings up.
Abstineo = 1 = GPST
- Comments:
- GPST: I believe D Aurelius Ingeniarius raised some important points that are worth considering. I therefore cannot actively approve this legislation, but am accepting that will be passed in the majority by others. Like Ingeniarius I do not object to the governors being prorogued, but am concerned that the legislation as written will only confuse an already complex landscape surrounding the provinces and their governance.
ENACTED
ITEM II - DRAFT SENATUS CONSULTUM DE SENTENTIA IN PROPRIA PERSONA DICENDA
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 12 = GCCB, QAN, GVM, ATS, DAI, GCL, MACI, FVG, MHMFF, PACP, GPST, TDD
- Comments:
- DAI: In today’s modern age of digital meetings and voting, just as we do now in this forum, the concept of a proxy vote is outdated and redundant. If our honorable members are concerned about the rapidly called sessions that occur with little warning, then we should collectively work on fixing the senate culture we’ve seen the last few years that produces these rapid last-minute meetings.
- GPST: I agree with D Aurelius Ingeniarius that in today’s modern age of digital meetings and voting, just as we do now in this forum, the concept of a proxy vote is outdated and redundant. If a senator is unable or unwilling to attend successive meetings of the curia over many years then they should consider standing down from this august body and allow another, more active citizen, to take their place. In regards the rapidly called sessions that occur with little warning, as consul I will endeavour to ensure that these are called much earlier and in a timely fashion allowing for the maximum period of debate.
- TDD: I am entirely in support of this measure. While I would have no issue with temporary proxy voting, lasting no more than a month or two in cases of emergencies, that's never been how it functions in Nova Roma. A Senator either has time to participate in these (figurative) hallowed halls or they do not.
- ATS: I am, however, open to a modification allowing proxy voting once a year for emergencies or other unusual circumstances.
Antiquo = 3 = SLT, GPD, AIP
Abstineo = 1 = MCMT
ENACTED
ITEM III - DRAFT SENATUS CONSULTUM DE PECUNIA PUBLICA CASTRIS OVO DANDA
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 16 = GCCB, QAN, GVM, ATS, DAI, GCL, SLT, GPD, MACI, FVG, AIP, MHMFF, PACP, GPST, MCMT, TDD
- Comments:
- GPST: As an interested party, I thought I should perhaps abstain from this vote. However, I feel that this project, into which many of my colleagues have invested so much time, money, blood, sweat and tears, is very important to the furtherance of Nova Roma as a movement, that I felt duty-bound to cast my vote in favour of this proposal.
- TDD: Nova Roma should, in fact, be seeking to do similar across all of its provinces. Let us use this as a test case. I do hope for regular progress reports.
- DAI: We must invest to make gains. Let’s see how this goes and we can use this as a benchmark for future proposals.
Antiquo = 0
Abstineo = 0
ENACTED
ITEM IV - DRAFT SENATUS CONSULTUM DE COMMISSIONIBUS SENATUS
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 13 = GCCB, QAN, GVM, ATS, GCL, SLT, GPD, MACI, FVG, AIP, MHMFF, PACP, MCMT
- Comments:
- ATS: However, I think that the Senate Preparation Committee should also go on the block.
Antiquo = 3 = DAI, GPST, TDD
- Comments:
- DAI: There is no need for a “Senate Preparation Committee” along with all the other outdated committees being removed. This is bureaucratic excess. All these committees should be removed. If a magistrate needs assistance to prepare for a senate session, then let them appoint an apparitor. Let us heed the warning our Princeps Senatus, in that, what is being proposed erodes at the fabric our senate proceedings. I stand for all the committees to be removed.
- GPST: I agree with D Aurelius Ingeniarius that what is being proposed erodes the fabric of our senate proceedings, and I would rather abolish all such committees and that, if a magistrate needs assistance to prepare for a senate session, then they can appoint an apparitor.
- TDD: Dissolve all the committees.
Abstineo = 0
ENACTED
ITEM V - DRAFT SENATUS CONSULTUM DE PRAEMIO SENATORIO TI. IULII NERVAE
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 16 = GCCB, QAN, GVM, ATS, DAI, GCL, SLT, GPD, MACI, FVG, AIP, MHMFF, PACP, GPST, MCMT, TDD
- Comments:
- TDD: Well deserved, though I make one suggestion to him: Find more multinational moderators. Some of the things that get posted... Well, there are reasons I'm not quite as active on Facebook as I was. Too much false history being spread. Be it nationalism, racial superiority, or just insanity (see Tartaria).
- DAI: Ti. Iulius Nerva is a passionate and patriotic citizen if I ever saw one. The fact that he has grown this social media platform to such a size and unites it under Nova Roma is very worthy of recognition. I easily and gladly support this proposal.
Antiquo = 0
Abstineo = 0
ENACTED
ITEM VI - DRAFT SENATUS CONSULTUM ON THE SENATE AWARD FOR SHAPING THE FIRST QUARTER OF CENTURY OF NOVA ROMA
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 15 = GCCB, QAN, GVM, DAI, GCL, SLT, GPD, MACI, FVG, AIP, MHMFF, PACP, GPST, MCMT, TDD
- Comments:
- GPST: I, too, believe that it is good to honor those that have given so much to the creation and maintenance of our Commonwealth.
- TDD: Well deserved.
- DAI: It is good to honor those that have given so much to the foundations of our Republic.
Antiquo = 0
Abstineo = 1 = ATS
- Comments:
- ATS: I commend the others, but unlike a certain pair of dictators, cannot vote to award such things to myself.
ENACTED
ITEM VII - DRAFT SENATUS CONSULTUM DE SUPPLICATIONE V DIERUM PRO TULLIA SCHOLASTICA (AUGUSTA)
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 14 = GCCB, QAN, GVM, DAI, GCL, SLT, GPD, MACI, FVG, AIP, PACP, GPST, MCMT, TDD
- Comments:
- TDD: Absolutely. I'm praying for her recovery and that she be free of pain from this dreadful disease that afflicts far too many.
- DAI: Our Republic already wavers with the news of A. Tullia Scholastica’s health. May she be granted all the strength to be mustered in this time.
Antiquo = 1 = MHMFF
Abstineo = 1 = ATS
ENACTED
ITEM VIII - DRAFT SENATUS CONSULTUM DE A. TULLIA SCHOLASTICA AUGUSTA
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 14 = GCCB, QAN, GVM, DAI, GCL, SLT, GPD, MACI, FVG, AIP, PACP, GPST, MCMT, TDD
- Comments:
- GPST: This is a well-meaning gesture, and I have no hesitation in supporting it.
- TDD: Hear, hear! A well-deserved honor.
- DAI: This is a great gesture and is supported. She is a critical element to our Republic.
Antiquo = 1 = MHMFF
Abstineo = 1 = ATS
ENACTED
ITEM IX - DRAFT SENATUS CONSULTUM DE LAUDIBUS ET PRAEMIO D. AUTRONIAE STOLONIS ET L. DELLI LIBERALIS
Uti rogas / censeo / consentio = 16 = GCCB, QAN, GVM, ATS, GCL, SLT, GPD, MACI, FVG, AIP, MHMFF, PACP, GPST, MCMT, TDD
- Comments:
- GPST: I would applaud these latest graduates, which have further strengthened the fabric of our Commonwealth. I , too, would therefore offer my congratulations to our new sacerdotes.
- TDD: Can't do it for one and not others!
- ATS: Those who have passed this difficult examination certainly deserve some rewards and recognition of their achievements.
- DAI: The success of our revived camillus program is bringing us much hope. With the latest graduates, we grow stronger. Congratulations to our new sacerdotes.
Antiquo = 0
Abstineo = 0
ENACTED